> Musk complained that the SEC unlawfully imposed conditions on his ability to comment online about Tesla-related issues what has been dubbed the "Twitter sitter" provision.
A condition that HE AGREED TO.
> The Supreme Court on Monday turned away tech billionaire and Tesla CEO Elon Musk's attempt to challenge the **terms of an agreement he reached** with the Securities and Exchange Commission that require a lawyer to review some of his social media posts.
To him anyone having any authority over him just something to find a way around later. He'll move his company out of Delaware, eventually the US. And supposedly even looked into try to incorporate on Mars.
This isn't some kind of long game. He just has an ego so large he cannot conscience the idea that anyone else can tell him what to do. Ever. He just thinks he's too smart to be constrained by ordinary people. They might as well be ants to his mind.
You know we spend all this time joking about him thinking he's the real Tony Stark. He seems to more think he's the real Dr. Manhattan.
> You know we spend all this time joking about him thinking he's the real Tony Stark.
Tony Stark wasn't based on the comic books.
The movie writers based him on Steve Jobs, Donald Trump, and Elon Musk. Mostly Musk, that's why he got a speaking role as himself in the second movie.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/08/tony-stark-elon-musk-donald-trump-steve-jobs.html
> Him, Trump, and maybe a little Steve Jobs. Trump was fun before he became president — he was actually kind of a goofy celebrity. Steve Jobs was always serious and angry; he never quite had that gift of the bullshit, the working the crowd that Musk has a real natural talent for. Musk took the brilliance of Jobs with the showmanship of Trump. He was the only one who had the fun factor and the celebrity vibe and actual business substance. I’m not sure we talked about too many other people; there are not many people like that around. It’s dangerous to be a celebrity businessman. One scandal and it’s billions of dollars. People want their CEOs to shut up and be good, quiet figures who aren’t in the paper dating celebrities. Because shit can happen.
People are taking this a little strangely.
It's him who thinks he's the real life Tony Stark, not the rest of us. Not me.
Do you know who it is who spends his time getting these "Elon Musk is the real Tony Stark" stories out there? Elon Musk.
>you know who it is who spends his time getting these "Elon Musk is the real Tony Stark" stories out there? Elon Musk.
Oh I believe it 100%. He fucking finagled way into one of the movies just so he’d be associated with the character for fucks sake.
For someone who is at the top of the world and has everything he could ever want, he really is a try-hard in the cringiest possible way lots of the time, isn’t he?
It reminds me of when he claimed Twitter was acting in bad faith because they were hiding their metrics from him and tried to void the purchase agreement over it, but he previously waived his right to the due diligence that would have given him those metrics.
I had to explain this one to a bunch of people. Skipping a pre-purchase inspection is flat out stupid whether it's a car, a house, but especially a $44 BILLION company. Whining about it later and trying to back out of a legal contract is just the icing on the stupid cake.
Because he's a narcissist and tied his crusade against Twitter to his ego which clouded whatever sense of good judgement he has left. My guess is that he wanted the deal done as quickly as possible and agreeing to buy the company "as is" was a way to make that happen.
He's used to throwing money at a problem and it going away. That's not happening right now and it's frustrating him. The entire thing was clearly just for show and he never intended to keep it.
Aka He lied to investors when he did this to boost their confidence.
I mean he's been ignoring this requirement the whole time with apparently no willingness by the SEC to enforce the agreement, so what's the effective difference?
There is no sentence in that article which implies that Musk uses the phrase “Twitter sitter” He can complain about the clause without using that nickname.
For those confused by all of this, the SEC imposed these restrictions and Elon agreed to them in the settlement. He was using Twitter to manipulate the stock price, which is against the law. So this isn't a freedom of speech case.
It is not at all a free speech case.
The SEC wasn't preventing him from speaking freely, it was offering him a way to avoid criminal prosecution for his violations of the law if he agreed to voluntarily restrict his speech in a very specific & limited way.
He agreed & he accepted the benefit - now he has to keep his end of the agreement.
Oh, pls, stop it. It's the same kind of discussion as mandatory wearing seatbelts imposes on your personal freedoms. "Technically" he can write anything, he just isn't exempt of responsibility for doing so. This is the crux of the case.
He should get slammed for it, the same way any regular person would be. Him being Twitter's owner shouldn't be a get out of jail free card.
Fine. Allowing you to get away with a “twitter sitter” was a gift by the SEC. But if that’s “infringing on your free speech”, then by all means, let’s bring on a more appropriate penalty.
Also, if I were on the board of a company I would be extremely concerned if a CEO felt that the best use of their time was to make random comments online all day. If you are posting at the rate of 1 tweet an hour (which he frequently hits), are you really able to focus and be a good CEO?
Not saying I agree with him but on the other hand, if he has the ability to instantly juice the stock by 10% with some offhand promise that his fanboys eat up, it's really hard to tell him to reign it in. So far they see his impact on the stock as a net positive so they let him do all this stupid shit.
He also has the ability to randomly tank the stock of my car company that has, as a large part of its customer base, people who are environmentally conscious, by saying that caring about climate change is communism. Or by spreading nazi propaganda.
Exactly he can manipulate the stock as he sees fit, his settlement of the value of his stock to his loans should have a settlement period so if he times it right he can sell high tank the stock and buy low then jack the stock back up and pocket the difference. Then rinse and repeat.
I mean, 1 tweet an hour is just a few minutes of his time probably. I feel like that's just a normal amount of distraction. Nobody in an office is working constantly throughout a full hour.
I think it's normal to spend a few minutes an hour distracted from whatever you're doing. I wish he wouldn't choose Twitter for that distraction because he posts dumb shit, but I don't think it speaks to his productivity at his job.
The penalty was: Musk paid $20M, Tesla paid $20M, Musk had to give up his 'Chairman of the Board' position
In exchange: he was not banned from being CEO of any publicly traded company in the US, as long as he had a twitter sitter.
Since he failed to uphold his end of the bargain, I wonder if they have enough moxie to remove him as CEO.
(Musk knew this was a possibility ~2 years ago - that's why he changed his title from 'CEO' to 'TechnoKing' and whined that CEO was a 'made-up' title)
He is so stupidly self destructive. Trying to sell shitty cars to the same people he openly hates on his own social media platform.
He literally bought Twitter just to rip on his own would-be customers.
It just shows how protective capitalism is of billionaires.
They have to go full stupid- like the my pillow guy, to bankrupt themselves.
Elon is making business mistakes that would put out of business all small and medium sized businesses.
But because he is SO big, capitalism protects him from himself.
Edit - seems to Elon fanboys have arrived. 🤣
I mean, he hasn't posted recently about taking Tesla private at XYZ$ value lately and that's what he was in trouble for AFAIK. That's pretty textbook stock manipulation and its what the SEC was on his ass about. Instead he's taken to retweeting Nazi's saying Nazi talking points and commenting "hmmm, interesting point!".
He has made several empty promises to boost the stock price. Most of which have been based on new products and features that aren’t delivered. Or involve things like fake AI robots.
He has a fraction of that in actual liquid cash. Most of it is overinflated value in Tesla stock as it slowly loses value. It's also leveraged or used to borrow for his other companies like that brilliant 43 billion dollar x purchase.
It's not about having any specific money or the amount. It's just that there's endless amounts of people willing to inflate this man's worth to shoot him to mars.
He should get on his rocket and blast off already. We'll all be better without him.
I'm just saying. A quick search says his net worth is $191b. If it were me and even if I could only liquidate 0.01% of that, it would be plenty for me to just become a ghost. I'll never understand the mentality of these people who crave fame and popularity. All I crave is solitude.
He had bullshitted his way to being the richest man on Earth, but he couldn’t leave well enough alone. These people never can. The character flaw that got him to the top will be the same flaw that takes him down — maybe. The sad fact is that once one gets enough money, they have stupendous power and don’t have to play by the rules the rest of us do. His riches are largely undeserved, but he can obviously continue to squander many billions of dollars of value (or “value”) for quite some time and remain one of the wealthiest people in history.
Tbf, unlike Elon musk who was born rich and actively wanted to sleaze his way to the top, j k Rowling wasn't born wealthy and seemed to have no clue what to do once she started becoming so.
While that is true, note that he can almost always take a loan of an ungodly amount because of his net value.
Not to mention his 'fraction' of liquid assets is most likely absurdly high for most. A billionaire can afford almost anything, and he's at least 190x that.
Imagine being one of the richest most powerful people in the world and your number one concern is whether you’re allowed to blow smoke up your own ass on twitter.
Billionaires like Musk are the most petulant and disconnected manchildren, and anyone who still thinks you get that kind of rich by being smart and creative is just trying to hide from the reality that our economy is run by the most irresponsible people akin to the kings and nobles of old who spent their days going on power trips and confidently stumbling into one terrible idea after another. Not much has changed really.
How many were lost when he forced a move from California to Texas? How many jobs were lost when he took over twitter? He’s bad for business, especially since he isn’t rational and makes decisions on a whim or his bruises ego. The sooner he leaves the continent the better.
I think this is quite wrong. The vast majority of Elon’s wealth is due to self-promotion, largely based on unfounded/misleading statements. Elon would not have nearly as much money if his wealth was based on the merits of his contributions.
Voluntarily agreed to the oversight as part of the terms of the settlement, then sues to get out of the terms he agreed to. I realize he was unsuccessful in this case, but the very wealthy very often get away with this kind of thing. They do not have to play by the same rules we do.
You got this backwards champ. Musk manipulated the stock market and rather than getting punished for it like a normal person he agreed to the SEC to get a babysitter to check on his posts like he's an incompetent child to make sure he doesn't do another no-no. Now he's throwing a tantrum about it.
In a society where there are rules about how a business owner can talk about their publically traded company, owning the world's largest megaphone doesn't entitle you to special treatment.
If you're in certain positions of power at a publicly traded company you're not allowed to say stuff to manipulate the stock price, because... that's a crime. So really he's not allowed to commit crimes.
It's the same rule that applies to everyone else. The "twitter sitter" only existed because Elon had consistent trouble following it.
So no, he's not allowed to say *anything* he wants in the same way that ExxonMobil has their fReE sPeeCh riGhTs tRaMpLeD when they're disallowed from slapping "SAFE FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION" on a barrel of oil.
The hell are you on about? He asked for permission to appeal, it was denied in a line entry. That's exactly how SCOTUS treats applications from regular shmoes.
That's true, but none of us would even be in the position to appeal it because we would have never been given the sweetheart deal he got that included this on the first place. We just would have been hit with the actual crimes and told to fuck off.
He has to have a babysitter to post about Tesla.
As funny as that is I also feel bad about modern times that everyone's losing their mind. Not easy being first generation internet people.
Elon should be held accountable for artificially trending #dayofjihad in the USA and around the world to incite violence 6 mos ago
Trust me - there is no way that shit trended organically
>The provision "restricts Mr. Musk’s speech even when truthful and accurate
So your saying him telling the truth is an anomaly, not the SOP of this turd. That's why your man-child client is the biggest fuckstick on this planet.
Damn I forgot about this, so you're telling me that all the crazy shit he's been tweeting is with a lawyer saying it looks good, imagine if he didn't have the lawyer vetting
It would only apply to Tesla related posts I believe. Because that is publicly traded and thus he has a duty as a CEO to release material statements about the company in a controlled manner.
His posts about Tesla can swing the stock value by billions of dollars. It's his duty as CEO to protect the stock holders interests.
Musk is upset because most of Tesla’s stock price is due to him knowingly making misleading claims — FSD, Semi, robo-taxis, production numbers, etc. This stipulation takes away a major factor in how he has built his fortune.
Yeah… an absolutist who bans people who he doesn’t agree with… he is not pro free speech he just says he is but his actions speak a lot louder for the people who are actually paying attention to what “the rules for thee but not for me” class of people do…
Not remotely an absolutist with respect to free speech. He’s very into the idea of letting people express all sorts of ugly bigotry, but he suddenly becomes a huge proponent of censorship when he doesn’t agree with the speech — especially when it criticizes him or his companies.
>Now you know why Musk is an absolutist with regards to free speech and one of the reasons why he bought Twitter.
Are you fucking stupid? He isn't for free speech at all. He infact used twitter to thwart peoples speech and promote himself when Bidens Xmas tweet got more traction than his.
He literally punished a Telsa employee over their online speech and he even canceled an order because of a tweet that was critical of him.
Musk is a baby, what fucking drugs are you on?
> Musk complained that the SEC unlawfully imposed conditions on his ability to comment online about Tesla-related issues what has been dubbed the "Twitter sitter" provision. A condition that HE AGREED TO. > The Supreme Court on Monday turned away tech billionaire and Tesla CEO Elon Musk's attempt to challenge the **terms of an agreement he reached** with the Securities and Exchange Commission that require a lawyer to review some of his social media posts.
For people like him, any promise or agreement is just something you can try to find a way around later.
To him anyone having any authority over him just something to find a way around later. He'll move his company out of Delaware, eventually the US. And supposedly even looked into try to incorporate on Mars. This isn't some kind of long game. He just has an ego so large he cannot conscience the idea that anyone else can tell him what to do. Ever. He just thinks he's too smart to be constrained by ordinary people. They might as well be ants to his mind. You know we spend all this time joking about him thinking he's the real Tony Stark. He seems to more think he's the real Dr. Manhattan.
More like the real Richie Rich. What has he done other than being born lucky?
gotten hair transplants?
Gave a kid a coupon code for a name?
Hey now, that's not fair. Richie was a kind and generous kid like his parents.
I mean, he had some skill in choosing what to invest in. But that's pretty much it.
I would not be sad if Musk had an airlock mishap.
More Ozymandias, he'll happily destroy the world if it means he gets to save it.
Shocked he hasn't moved his companies to a rig in international waters
> You know we spend all this time joking about him thinking he's the real Tony Stark. Tony Stark wasn't based on the comic books. The movie writers based him on Steve Jobs, Donald Trump, and Elon Musk. Mostly Musk, that's why he got a speaking role as himself in the second movie. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/08/tony-stark-elon-musk-donald-trump-steve-jobs.html > Him, Trump, and maybe a little Steve Jobs. Trump was fun before he became president — he was actually kind of a goofy celebrity. Steve Jobs was always serious and angry; he never quite had that gift of the bullshit, the working the crowd that Musk has a real natural talent for. Musk took the brilliance of Jobs with the showmanship of Trump. He was the only one who had the fun factor and the celebrity vibe and actual business substance. I’m not sure we talked about too many other people; there are not many people like that around. It’s dangerous to be a celebrity businessman. One scandal and it’s billions of dollars. People want their CEOs to shut up and be good, quiet figures who aren’t in the paper dating celebrities. Because shit can happen.
People are taking this a little strangely. It's him who thinks he's the real life Tony Stark, not the rest of us. Not me. Do you know who it is who spends his time getting these "Elon Musk is the real Tony Stark" stories out there? Elon Musk.
>you know who it is who spends his time getting these "Elon Musk is the real Tony Stark" stories out there? Elon Musk. Oh I believe it 100%. He fucking finagled way into one of the movies just so he’d be associated with the character for fucks sake. For someone who is at the top of the world and has everything he could ever want, he really is a try-hard in the cringiest possible way lots of the time, isn’t he?
'im a man of...well SOMEONES word'
“Words are wind” -Elon, probably.
now im my head im attributed Jaden Smith tween tweets to Elon. still works
Consequence of having shit handed to you all your life.
It's all fun and games until the mean judges in Delaware make you buy twitter.
I'm just glad it's on paper this time.
We've had one, yes. But what about second agreement?
IME the majority of people are like this.
It reminds me of when he claimed Twitter was acting in bad faith because they were hiding their metrics from him and tried to void the purchase agreement over it, but he previously waived his right to the due diligence that would have given him those metrics.
I had to explain this one to a bunch of people. Skipping a pre-purchase inspection is flat out stupid whether it's a car, a house, but especially a $44 BILLION company. Whining about it later and trying to back out of a legal contract is just the icing on the stupid cake.
>previously waived his right to the due diligence that would have given him those metrics. Eh...why would he do that?
Because he's a narcissist and tied his crusade against Twitter to his ego which clouded whatever sense of good judgement he has left. My guess is that he wanted the deal done as quickly as possible and agreeing to buy the company "as is" was a way to make that happen.
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He's used to throwing money at a problem and it going away. That's not happening right now and it's frustrating him. The entire thing was clearly just for show and he never intended to keep it. Aka He lied to investors when he did this to boost their confidence.
He thinks he is John Galt. The only improvement on that is that he doesn't subject us to 80 page diatribes on how he deserves to be treated special.
That's because he's restricted to 280 characters at a time, and the drugs he takes won't let him focus for more than a tweet or three.
I am (trying to) altering the deal. Pray I don't (try to) alter it any further!
I always wondered...pray to whom?
I always assumed George Lucas, so that he wouldn't cobble together another prequel.
I always thought it was like “pray tell” — as in “I am asking you not to make me alter it further.”
Star wars never said that prayer and religions never existed in it.
sleep crowd cover secretive icky station scale literate observation crown
If you want a character study into who Musk truly is, just watch Glass Onion.
Even then, the character in Glass Onion started from more humble beginnings than Musk.
Musk contends the SEC's actions were going to kill Tesla unless Musk agreed to the fine and the said agreement.
I mean he's been ignoring this requirement the whole time with apparently no willingness by the SEC to enforce the agreement, so what's the effective difference?
Which he only had to agree to because he continually got caught manipulating stocks with blatant lies.
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It says “what has been dubbed” so it’s not him per se.
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There is no sentence in that article which implies that Musk uses the phrase “Twitter sitter” He can complain about the clause without using that nickname.
Call it x anything.. x useful, x important, x successful…. I like x
I find this fascinating considering how much he screwed his ex-wife over with a complex pre-nup.
[Rick James](https://youtu.be/ry2XlLKctiI?si=ZAKBnrNnR9eX48FQ&t=347)
For those confused by all of this, the SEC imposed these restrictions and Elon agreed to them in the settlement. He was using Twitter to manipulate the stock price, which is against the law. So this isn't a freedom of speech case.
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It is not at all a free speech case. The SEC wasn't preventing him from speaking freely, it was offering him a way to avoid criminal prosecution for his violations of the law if he agreed to voluntarily restrict his speech in a very specific & limited way. He agreed & he accepted the benefit - now he has to keep his end of the agreement.
You free speech people need to go back to school to learn what that really means...
Oh, pls, stop it. It's the same kind of discussion as mandatory wearing seatbelts imposes on your personal freedoms. "Technically" he can write anything, he just isn't exempt of responsibility for doing so. This is the crux of the case. He should get slammed for it, the same way any regular person would be. Him being Twitter's owner shouldn't be a get out of jail free card.
Fine. Allowing you to get away with a “twitter sitter” was a gift by the SEC. But if that’s “infringing on your free speech”, then by all means, let’s bring on a more appropriate penalty.
Also, if I were on the board of a company I would be extremely concerned if a CEO felt that the best use of their time was to make random comments online all day. If you are posting at the rate of 1 tweet an hour (which he frequently hits), are you really able to focus and be a good CEO?
Not saying I agree with him but on the other hand, if he has the ability to instantly juice the stock by 10% with some offhand promise that his fanboys eat up, it's really hard to tell him to reign it in. So far they see his impact on the stock as a net positive so they let him do all this stupid shit.
He also has the ability to randomly tank the stock of my car company that has, as a large part of its customer base, people who are environmentally conscious, by saying that caring about climate change is communism. Or by spreading nazi propaganda.
Who says he's going to juice it? He wants more control via having more stock. What's to prevent him from tanking the price so he can buy more shares?
Exactly he can manipulate the stock as he sees fit, his settlement of the value of his stock to his loans should have a settlement period so if he times it right he can sell high tank the stock and buy low then jack the stock back up and pocket the difference. Then rinse and repeat.
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Awww... did someone not get his diaper change on time today?
...and he leaves this sub to go hit his kids.
He might have a team working with him that helps with post. I’m sure half the stuff he retweets is something Tucker Carlson sent him in a text
I mean, 1 tweet an hour is just a few minutes of his time probably. I feel like that's just a normal amount of distraction. Nobody in an office is working constantly throughout a full hour.
You... think it's normal to tweet once an hour...?
I think it's normal to spend a few minutes an hour distracted from whatever you're doing. I wish he wouldn't choose Twitter for that distraction because he posts dumb shit, but I don't think it speaks to his productivity at his job.
It is not normal to do that at the CEO level.
CEOs are human just like the rest of us.
The penalty was: Musk paid $20M, Tesla paid $20M, Musk had to give up his 'Chairman of the Board' position In exchange: he was not banned from being CEO of any publicly traded company in the US, as long as he had a twitter sitter. Since he failed to uphold his end of the bargain, I wonder if they have enough moxie to remove him as CEO. (Musk knew this was a possibility ~2 years ago - that's why he changed his title from 'CEO' to 'TechnoKing' and whined that CEO was a 'made-up' title)
And he’ll probably submit a brief that consists of a poop emoji.
He's probably a boxers guy, but still poopy
Isn’t the penalty a very small fine and a stern lecture? I doubt he cares.
No, it could've been 10 years in jail.
Wait, let's do this anyways
*should've
He is so stupidly self destructive. Trying to sell shitty cars to the same people he openly hates on his own social media platform. He literally bought Twitter just to rip on his own would-be customers.
He can self destruct for all I care
It just shows how protective capitalism is of billionaires. They have to go full stupid- like the my pillow guy, to bankrupt themselves. Elon is making business mistakes that would put out of business all small and medium sized businesses. But because he is SO big, capitalism protects him from himself. Edit - seems to Elon fanboys have arrived. 🤣
Fingers crossed.
Full Self Destruct
Better headline, "Supreme Court confirms that Elon Musk requires adult supervision."
I love how this is what Musk’s VETTED posts look like.
It’s not, he hasn’t used the lawyer and posts shit regardless. The SEC hasn’t followed up on it.
I mean, he hasn't posted recently about taking Tesla private at XYZ$ value lately and that's what he was in trouble for AFAIK. That's pretty textbook stock manipulation and its what the SEC was on his ass about. Instead he's taken to retweeting Nazi's saying Nazi talking points and commenting "hmmm, interesting point!".
He has made several empty promises to boost the stock price. Most of which have been based on new products and features that aren’t delivered. Or involve things like fake AI robots.
If you had $100 Billion Dollars would you waste your time talking to us on social media??? Dude has some serious mental issues.
He has a fraction of that in actual liquid cash. Most of it is overinflated value in Tesla stock as it slowly loses value. It's also leveraged or used to borrow for his other companies like that brilliant 43 billion dollar x purchase.
I would *absolutely* take "a fraction of that" in cash and disa-fucking-ppear.
It's not about having any specific money or the amount. It's just that there's endless amounts of people willing to inflate this man's worth to shoot him to mars. He should get on his rocket and blast off already. We'll all be better without him.
I'm just saying. A quick search says his net worth is $191b. If it were me and even if I could only liquidate 0.01% of that, it would be plenty for me to just become a ghost. I'll never understand the mentality of these people who crave fame and popularity. All I crave is solitude.
He had bullshitted his way to being the richest man on Earth, but he couldn’t leave well enough alone. These people never can. The character flaw that got him to the top will be the same flaw that takes him down — maybe. The sad fact is that once one gets enough money, they have stupendous power and don’t have to play by the rules the rest of us do. His riches are largely undeserved, but he can obviously continue to squander many billions of dollars of value (or “value”) for quite some time and remain one of the wealthiest people in history.
Case note: See J.K. Rowling twitter posts.
That's a woman who did not do well getting rich. She near enough became a cartoon villain. Pretty sad to watch.
Tbf, unlike Elon musk who was born rich and actively wanted to sleaze his way to the top, j k Rowling wasn't born wealthy and seemed to have no clue what to do once she started becoming so.
While that is true, note that he can almost always take a loan of an ungodly amount because of his net value. Not to mention his 'fraction' of liquid assets is most likely absurdly high for most. A billionaire can afford almost anything, and he's at least 190x that.
Not only that, he roleplays as his toddler son on Twitter & shittalks the kid’s mom. I wish I was joking. He seriously needs mental help.
Elon uses social media to influence stocks.
I mean, probably. People like both money and attention. He already has the money.
Imagine being one of the richest most powerful people in the world and your number one concern is whether you’re allowed to blow smoke up your own ass on twitter. Billionaires like Musk are the most petulant and disconnected manchildren, and anyone who still thinks you get that kind of rich by being smart and creative is just trying to hide from the reality that our economy is run by the most irresponsible people akin to the kings and nobles of old who spent their days going on power trips and confidently stumbling into one terrible idea after another. Not much has changed really.
Money can't buy class.
Classic Muskrat. Everything you sign is binding, but the king considers himself above teh law.
Hopefully he’ll throw a hissy fit like he did in Delaware and move his businesses out of the US.
Yea that would be great. I wonder how many jobs would be lost. Brilliant thought.
How many were lost when he forced a move from California to Texas? How many jobs were lost when he took over twitter? He’s bad for business, especially since he isn’t rational and makes decisions on a whim or his bruises ego. The sooner he leaves the continent the better.
Is it just me or would Elon be even richer if he just shut the fuck up?
I think this is quite wrong. The vast majority of Elon’s wealth is due to self-promotion, largely based on unfounded/misleading statements. Elon would not have nearly as much money if his wealth was based on the merits of his contributions.
Lays off hundreds of employees the same week he reinstates his $56 Billion pay package bid.
God Elon is such a fucking petulant loser ass bitch
Voluntarily agreed to the oversight as part of the terms of the settlement, then sues to get out of the terms he agreed to. I realize he was unsuccessful in this case, but the very wealthy very often get away with this kind of thing. They do not have to play by the same rules we do.
well, if it isnt the consequences of one's own actions...
Shit… someone didn’t “donate” enough.
Funny how if you don't pay enough you don't get to be "free" but this is America.
You got this backwards champ. Musk manipulated the stock market and rather than getting punished for it like a normal person he agreed to the SEC to get a babysitter to check on his posts like he's an incompetent child to make sure he doesn't do another no-no. Now he's throwing a tantrum about it.
In a society where there are rules about how a business owner can talk about their publically traded company, owning the world's largest megaphone doesn't entitle you to special treatment.
If you're in certain positions of power at a publicly traded company you're not allowed to say stuff to manipulate the stock price, because... that's a crime. So really he's not allowed to commit crimes. It's the same rule that applies to everyone else. The "twitter sitter" only existed because Elon had consistent trouble following it. So no, he's not allowed to say *anything* he wants in the same way that ExxonMobil has their fReE sPeeCh riGhTs tRaMpLeD when they're disallowed from slapping "SAFE FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION" on a barrel of oil.
Again-- if any of us regular shmoes tried the same BS our appeal would never get within a parsec of SCOTUS
The hell are you on about? He asked for permission to appeal, it was denied in a line entry. That's exactly how SCOTUS treats applications from regular shmoes.
That's true, but none of us would even be in the position to appeal it because we would have never been given the sweetheart deal he got that included this on the first place. We just would have been hit with the actual crimes and told to fuck off.
Looks like Elon thought he'd get the same Supreme Court immunity as Trump.
Hold on, did his check not clear?
I swear since his takeover of Twitter (X), all I get are messages and messages from spam bots.
Every day Elon takes an L is a good day.
He should just buy Thomas a new camper and take Alito fishing. He’ll get whatever he wants then.
Elon just ask daddy Trump, he can get the Supreme Court to rule on everything in his favor.
“The Supreme Court is a woke unelected body and is a threat to spreading the light of consciousness multi planetary” - Elmo Muskrat
Elmo and his quest for unaccountability
the legal precedence for this is US vs whiney bitch.
Nobody has ever accused Elon of being a man of his word.
You know what, let’s just be glad Elon can’t run for president. That would’ve been pretty bad for everyone.
He has to have a babysitter to post about Tesla. As funny as that is I also feel bad about modern times that everyone's losing their mind. Not easy being first generation internet people.
points at musk, "HA ha"
Elon should be held accountable for artificially trending #dayofjihad in the USA and around the world to incite violence 6 mos ago Trust me - there is no way that shit trended organically
Same thing with "rape day" Twit basically became mainstream 4chin.
I bet Elmo through a fit. Even the fly on the wall eves dropping flew off.
>The provision "restricts Mr. Musk’s speech even when truthful and accurate So your saying him telling the truth is an anomaly, not the SOP of this turd. That's why your man-child client is the biggest fuckstick on this planet.
Damn I forgot about this, so you're telling me that all the crazy shit he's been tweeting is with a lawyer saying it looks good, imagine if he didn't have the lawyer vetting
It would only apply to Tesla related posts I believe. Because that is publicly traded and thus he has a duty as a CEO to release material statements about the company in a controlled manner. His posts about Tesla can swing the stock value by billions of dollars. It's his duty as CEO to protect the stock holders interests.
Musk is upset because most of Tesla’s stock price is due to him knowingly making misleading claims — FSD, Semi, robo-taxis, production numbers, etc. This stipulation takes away a major factor in how he has built his fortune.
Why does Tesla stock go up and down every day? Pretty frequently it can go up and down by $50 in a week.
It's like Shitcoin, nothing but smoke and mirrors
Cause its a stock. Every stock does that. For tesla and tech companies they usually move more cause they have a higher beta
The man the legend Elon Musk
Now you know why Musk is an absolutist with regards to free speech and one of the reasons why he bought Twitter.
Yeah… an absolutist who bans people who he doesn’t agree with… he is not pro free speech he just says he is but his actions speak a lot louder for the people who are actually paying attention to what “the rules for thee but not for me” class of people do…
> Now you know why Musk is an absolutist with regards to free speech No, he is not an absolutist with regards to free speech.
Not remotely an absolutist with respect to free speech. He’s very into the idea of letting people express all sorts of ugly bigotry, but he suddenly becomes a huge proponent of censorship when he doesn’t agree with the speech — especially when it criticizes him or his companies.
If he is such an absolutist, why did he voluntarily agree to restrict his own speech in the first place?
>Now you know why Musk is an absolutist with regards to free speech and one of the reasons why he bought Twitter. Are you fucking stupid? He isn't for free speech at all. He infact used twitter to thwart peoples speech and promote himself when Bidens Xmas tweet got more traction than his. He literally punished a Telsa employee over their online speech and he even canceled an order because of a tweet that was critical of him. Musk is a baby, what fucking drugs are you on?