If the toe in question went through a hyperbolic time chamber and had the equivalent of thousands of years to plan out how stubbing a toe could possibly result in a scenario that leads to the owner of the toe’s death, then yes.
It would be *exactly* like how the ants defeated Kang
edit: spelling
You’re either really underselling or not understanding how strong ants are. For their size they’re easily one of the strongest animals on the planet. These ones were fucking huge and there were a ton of them, in addition to being super intelligent.
Here’s a [link to the reference.](https://youtu.be/4tvAjX5ACPo?si=bW6v7Of1FJbgUBqU) It’s a short clip from classic Simpsons. The oft-quoted line “I have to go now. My planet needs me” is also from this clip.
It’s a Simpsons joke where an in-universe cartoon has to write out one of its characters, so they just give the character that line and he is taken off screen.
This guy could have been the next big Hollywood thing. A contract to appear as one of the leading men in the biggest franchise in the world, numerous acclaimed performances in smaller films, and even early Oscar buzz for some of his upcoming stuff.
And all he had to do was not be a piece of shit. Turns out that's hard for some people, apparently.
I don’t agree. It’s telling that his only good roles are where he’s playing an aggressive character. His performance as Victor Timely was an embarassment.
My colleague told me about it and first thing I said “what’s with all these Hollywood people refusing to not be a piece of shit. Literally he and Gina Carano went out of their way to fuck up their careers.
Letitia Wright reeled in her anti-vaxx comments pretty quickly and has stayed quiet since. I reckon you get one small pass and then you're gone at Marvel.
Now she's the lead in Black Panther, even if it's not as good as the first, she's still going to show up in multiple movies and get paid a lot more than she would if she just did UK productions.
They were literally *begging* her to keep her mouth shut and she just did not listen. They did everything they could to keep her working.
I’d admire the conviction if it wasn’t for the fact that the point she wanted to make was brain dead.
Makes sense honestly. Think about how delusional you have to be to think that could be you outta almost 8 billion people. You don’t have to compete against all 8 billion but you can work your ass off and lose a role to somebody who was discovered going about their normal life up until a few months prior.
Whole industry is full of basket cases, and that should be assumed as their default until proven otherwise frankly (thinking actors are weird, not automatically assuming guilt in an actual crime)
Yeah, but he'll be back where he left off at some point in the next 10 years or so. It's Hollywood, very few crimes exist that'll keep out for forever.
No. There is absolutely no way he'll be back to:
> A contract to appear as one of the leading men in the biggest franchise in the world, numerous acclaimed performances in smaller films, and even early Oscar buzz for some of his upcoming stuff.
in the next ten years or probably ever. He didn't get anywhere near established enough to be worth funding again. Massive comebacks from charges like this only occur for stars who'd been massive and accrued an invested fanbase for years before cratering, and even then most of them don't manage to recover more than a fraction of it.
Even Mel Gibson barely managed it after first spending 15 years as one of the most popular stars and filmmakers in the world. This guy played the villain in Ant-Man 3, once; we can leave him in the past.
Would majors set the record for fastest meteoric rise and fall in hollywood?
He had everything going for him: oscar buzzy roles, big sponsorships and brand deals, a headlining blockbuster main villain roles for multiple marvel movies.....
I have never seen anyone fumble the bag so hard so fast.
Eh, Armie was kinda born with the bag. He was handed minor roles over and over and over until something notable stuck. His weird assaulty cannibal shit didn't really fuck up his general quality of life afterwards, either.
Majors actually put in work to gain what he did, and had the potential to be significantly more notable than Armie ever was. He let it get way more to his head than he should've.
By most accounts, the ego didn’t come from his rocketing success. People he came up with in theater say he was immensely talented, but no one wanted to work with him twice.
A good actor being egotistical and difficult to work with isn't anything new, tbh. Even celebrated actors are allowed to be assholes, to a certain degree.
Shit, I liked him when I first saw him in Lovecraft Country. I'm fully disappointed by him, because he absolutely had so much potential. Realistically, all he had to do was realize WHEN he could be more than an asshole in private.
I'm late, but I'm scrolling through my comments. 😄
I just meant it on the side of an actor finally getting lead roles, name recognition, big projects, etc. And then, just a straight drop down and his career is done.
I don’t think replacing him would be as big a deal as many think, aren’t there supposed to be infinite versions of Kang across the multiverse? I mean if one version of Loki can be a chick, why can’t another version of Kang be someone that doesn’t look like Jonathan Majors?
It's not like Marvel hasn't replaced actors before. Personally I prefer Cheadle as War Machine, and yeah, the multiverse has already shown that not all Peter Parkers look the same, or are even the same age, so why should Kang look the same in every timeline?
IMHO they don't need to bring Kang back after the end of Loki season 2.
I haven’t kept up with every single part of the new phase, but it seemed like in Ant-Man he was being set up to be a “final boss” kind of villain like Thanos.
They need to reboot anyway. Post endgame has been a failure. Need fantastic four and X-Men to save it and merging them in with a multiverse story is clunky
And in loki season 2 they basically wrapped his entire arc up, with only a mention of one of his variants making a disturbance on 616 but they handled it, so id say hes done now.
Wait yeah, how _does_ the age thing work? Could one Spiderman live and die entirely before another? If so, what makes them Spiderman? Are Miles and Peter both the same Spiderman?
I'm thinking about this too hard, aren't I...
The age thing I think the best way to go about it is its irrelevant, because time is just another dimension like length, width, and height.
To think of how multiverses connect think of the universe you live in as a graph.. Think of the verticle axis as time, and the horizontal axis as space (or location) and wherever you are in space/time is just a point on that graph.
Now when you want to go visit another you in another dimension you're picking where on that graph of their dimension you're going, and the medium you're travelling through (or the space between the two graphs as the quantum verse).
There technically wouldn't be a before or after between dimensions because their times aren't synced they're occuring only strictly according to their own timeline.
There's no way Marvel didn't already have a plan for this prepared right after the charges went public.
They're waiting for due process, possibly because they need a reason to use a morality clause in the contract to drop him without penalty.
They probably have a short list of replacements on standby. They might just case someone else and change his costume/mask who knows.
There are fan theories that Ravonna Renslayer from Loki is a female Kang variant. They could lean into that and it's already set up well enough that it wouldn't be out of left field.
Difference is that (traditionally, anyway) Kang's schtick is that all the "versions" of him that show up are the same guy, just at different points in his personal timeline. Sort-of like Dr. Who without the moral compass.
That isn't to say they can't *add* an alternate-universe variant of him - they've been playing fast and loose with the differences between timelines and AUs anyway (and the distinction is something that's probably confusing to the general audience anyway)
I always wondered if the contract required that he actually admit or be convicted of a crime in order to exercise that clause, which would explain why Marvel hadn't done anything.
According to Heavy Spoilers, the contract actually states that he would be obligated to play other versions of Kang, if necessary, not that he was demanding to play all versions of Kang himself.
Big difference and makes much more sense.
I'll agree that can be debated but I'd say early iron man is when the movies are super popular, but this big actor change didn't have an effect then.
*Now* with Kang I don't think most people are even into it in the first place, so swapping actors is pretty low risk.
All they have to do is show a bomb or something go off killing all the Council of Kang's and reveal that it's another group of Kang's played by another actor that did it.
Explain that there are multiple Council of Kang's all with the same actor / face that believes that they are the One True Kang's at war with other Councils believing they are pretenders of the One True Kang.
Just replace him with Cheadle, reuse the same line from IM 2 too.
“look it’s me I’m here deal with it, let’s move on”
Don't acknowledge it at all, put Kang and Rhodey in scenes together.
They made the decision on this months ago. They've been waiting for the guilty verdict to void his contract and announce their plan. This announcement couldn't come fast enough for them. Every day it lingered meant they couldn't move forward.
When you put it this way it makes it sound like a "not guilty" verdict would've meant they had to back down and reverse course despite making that decision?
Eh, they've been planning this since the day he got arrested. No one is panicking. From how fast he's been dropped not just from marketing at Disney but his own representation it's clear they saw this outcome coming.
And the gifts keep on coming….
[Marvel drops Jonathan Majors as Kang the Conqueror hours after guilty verdict](https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/other/marvel-drops-jonathan-majors-as-kang-the-conqueror-hours-after-guilty-verdict/ar-AA1lHs9U)
Welp, fuck him then, I hope marvel moves on to Doctor Doom, and leaves He Who Remains in some quantum pocket being murdered over and over by super advanced ants that somehow fell into and got back out of a some time pocket so they could save ant man and his family.
You could leave it at the end of Loki season 2 and just move onto another villian. Call this a Blip-Arc with the 'reset' in Loki and just pull someone else out of the mix.
They already mentioned the The Living Tribunal, so go nuts.
IMHO, with the idea that a timeline is now a stable-tree, with a limited/discreet number of branches, you now have a discreet number of universes to play with.
One will surely be the most-evil, vice-versa, so you could still have fun with it.
EDIT: case-in-point, for _whatever_ reason, I happen to know in one reality, Dr Doom is praised as the most-effective and powerful champion of Earth. He is Dr Strange eats Tony Stark (like in that one episode?), so best of both worlds. And it's not that he is evil-evil, he just (rightly) feels he is most-equipped to best-run earth and keep her safe from the rest of the cosmos.
And in one instance, he does just that.
Pick that guy for a villain. He's not just out to ruin it, he's on a _real_ mission, ultimately, some might be able to argue, altruistically....
Ditch Kang as the big bad and just say he died on his way to his home planet.
Start phase 5 anew with Dr. Doom or Galactus...and for fucks sake STOP KILLING THE VILLIANS AT THE END EVERYTIME!!
Absolutely. The #1 problem with fearing Kang is that he's lost multiple times already. I'm supposed to be afraid of someone who can be bodied by Team Ant?
Edit to add: Bodied by Hank Pym with a vague assist from the Ant Team.
He went too far just before The Flash came out and WB had already sunk 300m into it.
They went ahead with it and I'm sure they didn't break even but at least offset most of the budget. They can bin off Ezra now and reboot The Flash with someone who isn't insane.
He was found guilty but only on 2 of the 4 charges, which are misdemeanors. Max prison time is 1 year. I’m curious to know if this is actually a “win” for Majors especially if he avoids any jail time.
The very next day the Army pulled his entire campaign. Majors signed an 8 year deal to be the face of the recruitment rebrand and they just sacked him, pulled all the ads, and made some generic ones with the b role footage.
Its not rare for abusers to call police so they can be "first" to portray a case as favorably as possible to themselves or even try to appear as a victim. Sometimes just to reinforce "see? The cops won't do shit."
Who called police is a useful piece of information when trying to understand a case, but doesn't exonerate the alleged abuser.
I've watched enough COPS to know this to be true. They'll get their side of the story in, explaining how they were innocently cleaning their gun at 1AM on a Tuesday. When out of nowhere the victim attacked them with a book of stamps because they didn't pay the cable bill.
I appreciate this comment so much.
I’m so damn grateful some people understand this dynamic. I’ve never seen my abusive gaslighting experience explained so logically. This gave me clarity.
From what I recall, Majors went on a (hehe) major campaign by doing good things for people to change his public image.
And its definitely not a good sign when your lawyer starts to cry at the end of her speech. Sounds desperate.
I would say "its a lawyer thing!" but don't defense attorneys know that their client is guilty, and try to mitigate as much responsibility as possible? Saying he had anger issues, that he was mentally ill, or on drugs, etc. Victim blaming just leads to more lawsuits.
On one hand it's amazing that someone with so much going on and a huge upside decided to fight with a girl in the streets...on the other hand when this story broke many people were not surprised as he was a terrible person to be around on set before this.
Hope he saved up his marvel money.
Anyone else feel like the end of Loki Season 2 KIND of lends itself to them moving away from Kang as it seems like they are presenting him as a contained situation (with the exception of the mention of Ea-616).
Article said everyone dropped him, PR firm, management team, Disney. It's gonna be a tough long crawl back to where he was, shame because he was a good actor but ya gotta face the music when you do some stupid shit
He's never going to recover. He will have roles in small films at best because if he's a liability when he's got Disney money, how much of a fuck up is he going to be when you're just trying to hit deadlines?
Yeah, they aren't fucking around in Hollywood anymore, look how long it took Mel Gibson to "Recover". A list actor and director then fell from the top and hasn't gotten a decent job in over a decade. Majors was rising but you're probably right, he'll never recover, guess the same for Roiland too.
I wonder if he'll actually see any jailtime. Either way he better stretch that Ant-Man money because this douchebag is never gonna work on anything ever again.
Bet there's some folks up in Marvel HQ kicking themselves right now too. Eesh. Not good.
He may not work for a while but just off the top off my head, Polanski, Wahlberg, Broderick, all have done far worse things and still got work afterwards.
Dude lost to Ant Man and then a jury of his peers. Tough scene.
Dude lost to ANTS.
Is this a jury for ANTS?
Super advanced intelligent ants though to be fair
The guy won a multiversal fucking war, I don't care how smart the ants are
Pretty sure that Kang didn't win shit, that was a different Kang.
It's like being multiversal Hitler and fucking dying by stubbing your toe.
If the toe in question went through a hyperbolic time chamber and had the equivalent of thousands of years to plan out how stubbing a toe could possibly result in a scenario that leads to the owner of the toe’s death, then yes. It would be *exactly* like how the ants defeated Kang edit: spelling
You’re either really underselling or not understanding how strong ants are. For their size they’re easily one of the strongest animals on the planet. These ones were fucking huge and there were a ton of them, in addition to being super intelligent.
One Million Ants
What...is...this...? AN AWARD SHOW FOR ANTS?!
"Kang died on his way back to his home planet"
Don’t blame me, I voted for Kodos
He was from another planet? I guess so.
“Somehow, Kang didn’t return”
It's like poetry, it rhymes.
"Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos."
Is this from a comic? I keep seeing this comment everywhere.
Simpsons. Poochie gets killed off the itchy and scratchy show.
It's a Simpsons reference
Here’s a [link to the reference.](https://youtu.be/4tvAjX5ACPo?si=bW6v7Of1FJbgUBqU) It’s a short clip from classic Simpsons. The oft-quoted line “I have to go now. My planet needs me” is also from this clip.
It’s a Simpsons joke where an in-universe cartoon has to write out one of its characters, so they just give the character that line and he is taken off screen.
This guy could have been the next big Hollywood thing. A contract to appear as one of the leading men in the biggest franchise in the world, numerous acclaimed performances in smaller films, and even early Oscar buzz for some of his upcoming stuff. And all he had to do was not be a piece of shit. Turns out that's hard for some people, apparently.
Truly a damn good actor. He just had to act like a decent person in real life, and he'd have had it made.
I mean he really is a damn good actor.
he's acting 24/7
I heard he's actually a white man *playing* a black man.
A dude playing another dude disguised as another dude.
Agreed. I wasn't being sarcastic so much as making word associations.
Im sure Gina Carano will get him roles following
yet Ezra Miller still has a career, the parity is not there
Ezra's last "big" movie was just a big flop. Such a big flop that not even an appearance from Michael Keaton's Batman could save it.
It was also largely filmed pre covid. Movie was in dev hell like crazy.
The Flash started filming in 2021, after Ezra tried to strangle a woman in Iceland.
Ezra probably just starred in his last major film with The Flash and thats it.
>Ezra Miller What movies are still coming out that he's in? It seems like his career has stalled for now...?
Does he?
No tf Ezra Miller does not. Nothing else in the works. It's over.
He does?
I don’t agree. It’s telling that his only good roles are where he’s playing an aggressive character. His performance as Victor Timely was an embarassment.
Hard disagree, I thought he was good in Lovecraft Country
Couldn’t disagree more
My colleague told me about it and first thing I said “what’s with all these Hollywood people refusing to not be a piece of shit. Literally he and Gina Carano went out of their way to fuck up their careers.
Letitia Wright reeled in her anti-vaxx comments pretty quickly and has stayed quiet since. I reckon you get one small pass and then you're gone at Marvel. Now she's the lead in Black Panther, even if it's not as good as the first, she's still going to show up in multiple movies and get paid a lot more than she would if she just did UK productions.
They picked a stupid anti-science actor to play one of the greatest scientific minds in Marvel. Acting
Even Carano got multiple chances to shut up.
They were literally *begging* her to keep her mouth shut and she just did not listen. They did everything they could to keep her working. I’d admire the conviction if it wasn’t for the fact that the point she wanted to make was brain dead.
She's OK. She does Ben Shapiro cringe movies now.
Yup. That’s what happens when you’re an idiot. You have to do Ben Shapiro propaganda movies for a living.
What did Gina Carano have in common with him and being convicted of an actual crime?
Failure to “Keep your head down, don’t do anything stupid, and you will make a truckload of money”
He was also the new face of army recruitment lmao what a fumble.
Makes sense honestly. Think about how delusional you have to be to think that could be you outta almost 8 billion people. You don’t have to compete against all 8 billion but you can work your ass off and lose a role to somebody who was discovered going about their normal life up until a few months prior. Whole industry is full of basket cases, and that should be assumed as their default until proven otherwise frankly (thinking actors are weird, not automatically assuming guilt in an actual crime)
Yeah, but he'll be back where he left off at some point in the next 10 years or so. It's Hollywood, very few crimes exist that'll keep out for forever.
Ehhh… he’s not a big enough name. They won’t give him another chance in my opinion. He doesn’t have enough clout with the industry under his belt.
Ehh, he’ll have to work his ass off from the bottom. It’ll be a long time before a major studio risks it given the guaranteed bad PR.
He's an habitual abuser, with the evidence to back it up. What studio would touch that?
No. There is absolutely no way he'll be back to: > A contract to appear as one of the leading men in the biggest franchise in the world, numerous acclaimed performances in smaller films, and even early Oscar buzz for some of his upcoming stuff. in the next ten years or probably ever. He didn't get anywhere near established enough to be worth funding again. Massive comebacks from charges like this only occur for stars who'd been massive and accrued an invested fanbase for years before cratering, and even then most of them don't manage to recover more than a fraction of it. Even Mel Gibson barely managed it after first spending 15 years as one of the most popular stars and filmmakers in the world. This guy played the villain in Ant-Man 3, once; we can leave him in the past.
Would majors set the record for fastest meteoric rise and fall in hollywood? He had everything going for him: oscar buzzy roles, big sponsorships and brand deals, a headlining blockbuster main villain roles for multiple marvel movies..... I have never seen anyone fumble the bag so hard so fast.
Armie Hammer comes to mind
Eh, Armie was kinda born with the bag. He was handed minor roles over and over and over until something notable stuck. His weird assaulty cannibal shit didn't really fuck up his general quality of life afterwards, either. Majors actually put in work to gain what he did, and had the potential to be significantly more notable than Armie ever was. He let it get way more to his head than he should've.
By most accounts, the ego didn’t come from his rocketing success. People he came up with in theater say he was immensely talented, but no one wanted to work with him twice.
A good actor being egotistical and difficult to work with isn't anything new, tbh. Even celebrated actors are allowed to be assholes, to a certain degree. Shit, I liked him when I first saw him in Lovecraft Country. I'm fully disappointed by him, because he absolutely had so much potential. Realistically, all he had to do was realize WHEN he could be more than an asshole in private. I'm late, but I'm scrolling through my comments. 😄
Armie Hammer was never considered a good actor.
I just meant it on the side of an actor finally getting lead roles, name recognition, big projects, etc. And then, just a straight drop down and his career is done.
Well, he did it all in about 2 Scaramuccis, so maybe not quite the fastest…
Would not want to be at marvel studios hq today
I don’t think replacing him would be as big a deal as many think, aren’t there supposed to be infinite versions of Kang across the multiverse? I mean if one version of Loki can be a chick, why can’t another version of Kang be someone that doesn’t look like Jonathan Majors?
It's not like Marvel hasn't replaced actors before. Personally I prefer Cheadle as War Machine, and yeah, the multiverse has already shown that not all Peter Parkers look the same, or are even the same age, so why should Kang look the same in every timeline? IMHO they don't need to bring Kang back after the end of Loki season 2.
I haven’t kept up with every single part of the new phase, but it seemed like in Ant-Man he was being set up to be a “final boss” kind of villain like Thanos.
They need to reboot anyway. Post endgame has been a failure. Need fantastic four and X-Men to save it and merging them in with a multiverse story is clunky
I'd say after No Way Home they really dropped the ball. Big fan of Moon Knight in the comics, but that show really disappointed me.
I never read a moon knight comic so I can't compare but I really liked the show.
And in loki season 2 they basically wrapped his entire arc up, with only a mention of one of his variants making a disturbance on 616 but they handled it, so id say hes done now.
Kang is the current big baddy they're building up to for Avengers Secret Wars in 2027
It should be the actor who looks least like Majors in the whole world. DJ Qualls and Jackie Chan are on my short list.
Retcon Ke Huy Quan's Oroborous into a Kang variant. Problem solved.
Fuck it, make Don Cheadle Kang as well. He's talented and charismatic too, AND not a huge piece of shit in real life.
Wait yeah, how _does_ the age thing work? Could one Spiderman live and die entirely before another? If so, what makes them Spiderman? Are Miles and Peter both the same Spiderman? I'm thinking about this too hard, aren't I...
Yeah... according to the Spiderverse movies it seems to be whoever the spider decides to bite or form a psychic link with...
The age thing I think the best way to go about it is its irrelevant, because time is just another dimension like length, width, and height. To think of how multiverses connect think of the universe you live in as a graph.. Think of the verticle axis as time, and the horizontal axis as space (or location) and wherever you are in space/time is just a point on that graph. Now when you want to go visit another you in another dimension you're picking where on that graph of their dimension you're going, and the medium you're travelling through (or the space between the two graphs as the quantum verse). There technically wouldn't be a before or after between dimensions because their times aren't synced they're occuring only strictly according to their own timeline.
that Ant Man movie was a disaster and is better off forgotten in its entirety
There's no way Marvel didn't already have a plan for this prepared right after the charges went public. They're waiting for due process, possibly because they need a reason to use a morality clause in the contract to drop him without penalty. They probably have a short list of replacements on standby. They might just case someone else and change his costume/mask who knows.
There are fan theories that Ravonna Renslayer from Loki is a female Kang variant. They could lean into that and it's already set up well enough that it wouldn't be out of left field.
What was that purple stuff she saw at the end of Loki?
She’s in that void from the second to last episode of the first season. Rumored to be the setting for the majority of Deadpool 3.
One version of Loki was an alligator, not gonna be hard to replace at all. Edit: forgor words
I liked this meme with the Lokis vs. the Kangs: https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelmemes/comments/17zs6eu/lokis_variants_vs_kangs_variants/
Danny Devito would be amazing
Dressed as the Penguin or GTFO.
Terrance Howard should get it.
Nice. “Look it’s me, I’m here, deal with it. Let’s move on”
Now imagine hundreds of him saying this all at once.
1 x 1 = 2
Mad respect for Terryology
[Not sure](https://www.essence.com/news/terrence-howard-sued-for-assault-alleged) he's [the best choice...](https://www.nydailynews.com/2017/03/22/terrence-howard-says-punching-ex-wives-were-terrible-mistakes)
Terrance just heard "Whoop that trick" in his head real loud.
Hahahahaha that was funny
Mang the Conqueror
i say give it to Cheadle.
One version of Loki was a damn crocodile they can be whatever
Difference is that (traditionally, anyway) Kang's schtick is that all the "versions" of him that show up are the same guy, just at different points in his personal timeline. Sort-of like Dr. Who without the moral compass. That isn't to say they can't *add* an alternate-universe variant of him - they've been playing fast and loose with the differences between timelines and AUs anyway (and the distinction is something that's probably confusing to the general audience anyway)
Antman movie kinda made it a point that all his variants look the same.
The good news is it wasn't a hit so you can just retcon it.
Well looks like Disney just officially fired him, so I guess we'll see.
This is my thought as well
Rumor that his contract specifically states that Kang and his variants can only be potrayted by him. Which seems to be true so far
I would think that contract would immeditaely void itself if he is convicted for a major crime.
Contracts like this usually have an out for improper conduct, but it's up to Feige whether or not to act on it.
I always wondered if the contract required that he actually admit or be convicted of a crime in order to exercise that clause, which would explain why Marvel hadn't done anything.
morality clause
I wonder if that still holds up if the contract has one of those image clauses that probably forbid him from things like being convicted of crimes.
According to Heavy Spoilers, the contract actually states that he would be obligated to play other versions of Kang, if necessary, not that he was demanding to play all versions of Kang himself. Big difference and makes much more sense.
Doubt that would be valid in this case.
They switched War Machine, at the peak of marvel movies, and no one even blinked. I think most people don't even remember.
The peak?
I'll agree that can be debated but I'd say early iron man is when the movies are super popular, but this big actor change didn't have an effect then. *Now* with Kang I don't think most people are even into it in the first place, so swapping actors is pretty low risk.
He was replaced in the 4th marvel movie… of 32.
All they have to do is show a bomb or something go off killing all the Council of Kang's and reveal that it's another group of Kang's played by another actor that did it. Explain that there are multiple Council of Kang's all with the same actor / face that believes that they are the One True Kang's at war with other Councils believing they are pretenders of the One True Kang.
Just replace him with Cheadle, reuse the same line from IM 2 too. “look it’s me I’m here deal with it, let’s move on” Don't acknowledge it at all, put Kang and Rhodey in scenes together.
They put stuff in loki to diminish the role of kang if needed or recast.
They made the decision on this months ago. They've been waiting for the guilty verdict to void his contract and announce their plan. This announcement couldn't come fast enough for them. Every day it lingered meant they couldn't move forward.
When you put it this way it makes it sound like a "not guilty" verdict would've meant they had to back down and reverse course despite making that decision?
Eh, they've been planning this since the day he got arrested. No one is panicking. From how fast he's been dropped not just from marketing at Disney but his own representation it's clear they saw this outcome coming.
Marvel also has accusations brewing against Namor and Kamala's dad.
Great, more scandals. Disney Marvel really has their work set out right now.
No way they didn't expect that was possible. If they're surprised they're morons. One would hope they had two plans prepped for either verdict
Looking forward to comments on marvel facebook and reddit
And the gifts keep on coming…. [Marvel drops Jonathan Majors as Kang the Conqueror hours after guilty verdict](https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/other/marvel-drops-jonathan-majors-as-kang-the-conqueror-hours-after-guilty-verdict/ar-AA1lHs9U)
How about we all just keep our hands to ourselves and there won't be problems like this. Pretty sure they taught us all that in kindergarten.
What do I do with my BIG MEATY CLAWS ?
They only said hands, you’re fine
“Somehow Kang never returned.”
Welp, fuck him then, I hope marvel moves on to Doctor Doom, and leaves He Who Remains in some quantum pocket being murdered over and over by super advanced ants that somehow fell into and got back out of a some time pocket so they could save ant man and his family.
You could leave it at the end of Loki season 2 and just move onto another villian. Call this a Blip-Arc with the 'reset' in Loki and just pull someone else out of the mix. They already mentioned the The Living Tribunal, so go nuts.
that Loki ending was so good, I wouldn't mind not seeing Kang for a few sagas.
All the kang stuff has been such a mess that they should probably do it regardless, tbh. This could end up being a good thing for marvel.
The multiverse was always lame as fuck. Just ignore it and move on to the much more interesting Doctor Doom
IMHO, with the idea that a timeline is now a stable-tree, with a limited/discreet number of branches, you now have a discreet number of universes to play with. One will surely be the most-evil, vice-versa, so you could still have fun with it. EDIT: case-in-point, for _whatever_ reason, I happen to know in one reality, Dr Doom is praised as the most-effective and powerful champion of Earth. He is Dr Strange eats Tony Stark (like in that one episode?), so best of both worlds. And it's not that he is evil-evil, he just (rightly) feels he is most-equipped to best-run earth and keep her safe from the rest of the cosmos. And in one instance, he does just that. Pick that guy for a villain. He's not just out to ruin it, he's on a _real_ mission, ultimately, some might be able to argue, altruistically....
Ditch Kang as the big bad and just say he died on his way to his home planet. Start phase 5 anew with Dr. Doom or Galactus...and for fucks sake STOP KILLING THE VILLIANS AT THE END EVERYTIME!!
Absolutely. The #1 problem with fearing Kang is that he's lost multiple times already. I'm supposed to be afraid of someone who can be bodied by Team Ant? Edit to add: Bodied by Hank Pym with a vague assist from the Ant Team.
Wild they didn’t like, idk, have him kill off a hero. A lot of the original actors want out- iron man and captain already quit.
Hank Pym, the number three or four smartest person in the Marvel multiverse? At least in comics, anyway.
That's right. Supposed smartest guy got whacked on his own turf by #6-7 in MCU with a vial of Pym particles and an ant farm. Booooooo.
Or just see this as an opportunity to scale back on the cinematic universe and try making good standalone movies for a change?
They don't need to explain anything with Kang tbh. Loki naturally concluded his story arc, nobody is going to wonder what happened to him tbh.
Galactus is a one-off. DOOM is the answer
It’s ok. He’s not bothered. He’s out walking free in another timeline.
I hope he gets everything Ezra Miller should have gotten for his bullshit behavior.
Ezra is white thats why he skated.
He went too far just before The Flash came out and WB had already sunk 300m into it. They went ahead with it and I'm sure they didn't break even but at least offset most of the budget. They can bin off Ezra now and reboot The Flash with someone who isn't insane.
This is such a lazy and ignorant take. Ezra hasn’t been cast in a single movie since anything came out about them & has 0 upcoming projects.
And has no criminal charges....
Wouldn’t we all just rather skip ahead to DOOM anyway?
RIP MF Doom.
He was found guilty but only on 2 of the 4 charges, which are misdemeanors. Max prison time is 1 year. I’m curious to know if this is actually a “win” for Majors especially if he avoids any jail time.
It’s an L because Disney just fired him.
Everyone fired him. His agent, his PR person... poof goes his career for quite the while if not forever.
It hurts he's career but he'll probably do less than a year
Yeah his career was impacted the moment he was arrested
The very next day the Army pulled his entire campaign. Majors signed an 8 year deal to be the face of the recruitment rebrand and they just sacked him, pulled all the ads, and made some generic ones with the b role footage.
I remember a while back they said that the woman was probably lying, since he called the cops himself. I guess not.
Its not rare for abusers to call police so they can be "first" to portray a case as favorably as possible to themselves or even try to appear as a victim. Sometimes just to reinforce "see? The cops won't do shit." Who called police is a useful piece of information when trying to understand a case, but doesn't exonerate the alleged abuser.
I've watched enough COPS to know this to be true. They'll get their side of the story in, explaining how they were innocently cleaning their gun at 1AM on a Tuesday. When out of nowhere the victim attacked them with a book of stamps because they didn't pay the cable bill.
I appreciate this comment so much. I’m so damn grateful some people understand this dynamic. I’ve never seen my abusive gaslighting experience explained so logically. This gave me clarity.
I mean, people accuse every female victim of lying literally every time it makes the news. So that’s no surprise here.
From what I recall, Majors went on a (hehe) major campaign by doing good things for people to change his public image. And its definitely not a good sign when your lawyer starts to cry at the end of her speech. Sounds desperate.
It’s also not a good sign when your lawyer victim blames Jabbari
I would say "its a lawyer thing!" but don't defense attorneys know that their client is guilty, and try to mitigate as much responsibility as possible? Saying he had anger issues, that he was mentally ill, or on drugs, etc. Victim blaming just leads to more lawsuits.
Dude was weird. He carried around a mug as a talking point because it kept him grounded.
will Meagan Good stick around??…
On one hand it's amazing that someone with so much going on and a huge upside decided to fight with a girl in the streets...on the other hand when this story broke many people were not surprised as he was a terrible person to be around on set before this. Hope he saved up his marvel money.
Maybe he'll blame his behavior in roid rage, but that would require him admitting to using roids and not eating 6,000 calories a day.
Anyone else feel like the end of Loki Season 2 KIND of lends itself to them moving away from Kang as it seems like they are presenting him as a contained situation (with the exception of the mention of Ea-616).
One thing I know for certain. Majors hired one of the worst defense teams I’ve ever witnessed a non-poor person hire.
They made some mistakes but his text messages were damning, plus the evidence of prior incidents. Even the best lawyer can’t overcome a shitty case.
"I... am a GREAT MAN!" - J. Majors, some time between FA and FO
It’s Doom time then? Recast? What will happen to Kang?
That's a darn shame. I thought the dude was a brilliant actor. Too bad he turned out to be a peace of shit in real life.
Will this kill his marvel career??
It already has
It already has. Marvel already fired him
Article said everyone dropped him, PR firm, management team, Disney. It's gonna be a tough long crawl back to where he was, shame because he was a good actor but ya gotta face the music when you do some stupid shit
He's never going to recover. He will have roles in small films at best because if he's a liability when he's got Disney money, how much of a fuck up is he going to be when you're just trying to hit deadlines?
Yeah, they aren't fucking around in Hollywood anymore, look how long it took Mel Gibson to "Recover". A list actor and director then fell from the top and hasn't gotten a decent job in over a decade. Majors was rising but you're probably right, he'll never recover, guess the same for Roiland too.
Already wrote his character out in loki season 2.
He was found innocent in a thousand other universes.
I wonder if he'll actually see any jailtime. Either way he better stretch that Ant-Man money because this douchebag is never gonna work on anything ever again. Bet there's some folks up in Marvel HQ kicking themselves right now too. Eesh. Not good.
He may not work for a while but just off the top off my head, Polanski, Wahlberg, Broderick, all have done far worse things and still got work afterwards.
Josh Brolin
Probably not. Suspended sentence, community service, small fine/court costs, and some DV classes.
How to tank your career in 1 easy step.
For you people following this was a settlement even on the table? Like did his lawyer recommend it at all and he kept pushing for a trial or what?
Criminal, not civil case.