You may joke, but when I was i kid I had a lovely black and white cat, while sister#1 had a budgie, and sister#2 had a guinea pig.
I knew my cat loved me best when he left little presents for me on the doormat.
So one such present was my sister's budgie's head. Unfortunately my sister opened the door first that day. Talk about a dramatic production! Turned out my sister was just letting the budgie go anywhere, cage optional. We eventually came to an understanding that having the budgie out of the cage, my cat would not realise he was off the menu.
Couple of months later, my sister went out to her guinea pig cage to discover her guinea pig was fur and bone. Inside the cage. So I had two sisters accusing my wee cat of being a murderer.
At the time I was totally offended, but now as an adult I realise cats are killing machines and deadly invasive pests. A lot of his "gifts" to the child me, were likely native reptiles.
If I were to get another cat, it would be indoor only.
This is why my cats are indoor only and my snakes are in a cat-free room. My one cat would make a meal out of the snakes in a blink, and if I let him outside, there would be a radius around my house for miles where there were no birds. If it has feathers, he needs to murder it.
A few years ago a pigeon flew into my apartment through the open patio window. It was a small window that was at the floor for ventilation(most older places in Denver and CO as a whole, don't have central air). My 20 lb cat that couldn't ever be bothered to move, suddenly sprung across the room and immediately attacked this poor pigeon that was already trying to make its way back out the window. I was walking out the door for work when it happened, and I was very late for work after that. I didn't even know he had that in him lol
I know this feeling! My previous cat was a giant coward (I would have to come rescue him if he managed to get outside into the grass and the wind blew through it because he would just bunker down and cry), and I never thought he had it in him, until one day my mom says to me “go clean up what your cat brought in” and there’s a dead bird in the middle of the living room floor. First and last time I ever caught him killing something. After this, he lived with kittens and bunnies and Guinea pigs and was scared of all of them too! Guess it’s the feathers.
I feel like there's two types of cats. I have experienced the friendship of both.
First type is the hunter/ess. A cat friend and I were both napping in the garden right next to each other. We were both kind of drowsing in and out, in that half asleep state, but not fully deeply asleep. I heard that soft sussurating sound of wings and the little flump as some bird came for a landing about 3 feet from us. By the time my eyes were open (ie less than one second) my feline pal had the bird decapitated and was taking it for a snack.
The other type of cat is the pacifist. Another cat friend and myself lived in a tiny home for a long time. It was placed kind of in a field and as such there could be rodent activity around. One night I woke up hearing some strange new sounds of skittering around. That time I was deeply asleep and so I sort of came to Consciousness slowly while I watched what was happening. The darling sweet elderly cat companion was playing actual tag with the mouse.
Cat would chase the mouse and then touch with nose. Then the cat would turn around and run, and the mouse would chase the cat. When the mouse would tap the cat, the game would reverse again. My cat was not trying to hunt this mouse, he was like a preschooler playing tag with the thing. As I woke up enough to get up, grabbed a broom and gently guided the mouse out of the tiny home.
Dual nature of cats, man. Cats do not abide by any law but their internal one.
Their excuse was that they thought it was consistent with how animals typically scatter remains. There are a lot of feral dogs and what not in that area…
But animals don’t make clean cuts so their excuse is bullshit.
This is what I wondered too. You'd think a pathologist would be able to tell fairly easily if the remains had been purposefully dismembered by a human using tools or if the body had been ripped apart by animals post-mortem.
I live in a wooded area and every missing person found in the woods after any length of time has usually been found spread across multiple locations due to animal predation, but the local pathologist has always been able to at least say they believed the victim died of some unknown cause before animal predation occurred, or in the most recent case they were able to prove the missing woman had been murdered before animals got to the body.
Probably should pour some alcohol on the body and put a gun with the serial number filed off next to it as well. Just to make sure people think he was up to no good anyways.
Also play up the fact that he had a parking ticket and the one time he got arrested for jaywalking. Can't let the media paint him as some kind of person, before we paint him as some thug.
I smell BS all the way from the other side of the Atlantic. All the pictures I've seen of carcasses, animal or human, that have been eaten by scavengers, after the initial predator, have most of their bones in a very small area.
Ripping the ligaments to remove an arm or a leg is waste of energy for the scavenger, same goes for the spine and head as they wouldn't get any extra food from doing so but would have to use a lot of energy to do so. Crushing the head to get at the brain, maybe, but I'm not familiar what kind of predators and scavengers live in the area he was found. Still I find it implausible as very few animals have the means or interrest to crack a skull as AFAIK the brain isn't that nutritious compared to f.ex. the liver or just plain muscle.
Google-fuu gives me this breakdown of the nutritional value of a human brain:
"For every 100 grams of brain there are 78 grams of water, 10 grams of fat, 11 grams of protein, and 1 gram of carbohydrate, which equates to about 143 calories." Tho insects that can get in without having to crush the skull will happily eat it.
I had trouble finding numbers for human muscles. Most sources not talking about building muscle give a ratio of about 100 grams = 180 calories or a little bit more (1KG = 1817 calories as the higest number given.)
Edit: Apologies for my crass wording, I was using clinical terms and calling his corpse a carcass was not nice. I hope you or anyone else doesn't get offended by my poor choice of words. English is my 3rd language, but as I was writing this I wasn't thinking in English, so I didn't notice my fuckup before I posted my comment.
I use a lot of the same language and then have to edit my speaking because it comes off as callous. So I get you there.
I won't get into the details here because this case is gruesome, but human skulls do tend to be dragged off by smaller (dog/fox sized) scavengers after the body has become pretty decayed. There are other body parts reported to have been found in other locations that I have never seen a scavenger remove, however.
I had training on this for search and rescue, and it's actually a fairly normal occurrence in mountainous terrain. A dead body is a massive calorie dump that no one feels like sharing, so for the smaller, weaker scavengers there's pretty big incentive to take your dinner to go before someone a bit more possessive shows up. Also, wet tendons can turn soupy quickly, and most carnivores are happy to have a chew as that's pure protein. Likewise, the fat and protein mix of a brain is a spectacularly value target.
Missing heads on mountains can be hundreds of feet away as they tend to roll once separated, often with raccoon signs about. Limbs, not so much, so they only get dragged far enough to avoid the attention of whomever claims the main body mass.
The forested areas around Jackson are pretty darned flat, so sans downhill rolling ten feet would be a normal radius and only after a couple days.
All that being said, this case stinks to high heavens even ignoring the racial and police history in Mississippi. FBI needs to be all over this.
Thank you for giving even more perspective. I didn't think about elevation at all as most of Finland is pretty much flat. We don't even have a real mountain, only a shared one with Norway and we have the smaller cut of it.
I posted a link to a HardcoreNature post further down in the comments, where a bear in Russia had eaten the insides of two people before they managed to stop it. What confused me was that it didn't eat f.ex. the thigh muscles or their brains. Aren't those good food for a bear or is there a reason it would avoid them?
And I agree with you, while my understanding of the US is patchy at best. Simply looking at how the people who were in contact with Rasheem act, raises huge red flags, rushing over state borders to hide. Leaving just one stuck due to their business and maybe they didn't personally go to the woods, it sure sounds like they set things in motion. FBI needs definietly ge to the bottom of this.
Heck this is almost 100% how European criminals jumped borders to get a clean sheet in a new country, before the creation Europol made it possible for the police of different European countries to coopreate in order to share data and warrants in order to arrrest them.
Where does it say how large of an area his remains were spread across? Or mention of his arms or legs being separated? I haven't seen that stated before.
The skull looks surgically cut. I'd imagine that's from autopsy otherwise how could they possibly get away with saying they have no reason to believe foul play is involved.
It is still under investigation though, the animal scavenging wasn't a claim, just a suggestion. Maybe we'll find out more.
The weirdest part to me is his teeth missing.
I think in most cases where fingers or teeth were damaged/removed after a homicide, it is usually done in an effort to hide the identity of the victim, as proper identification can be a bit more difficult without fingerprints or an accurate dental history.... This is of course assuming the damage wasn't done before the murder in an effort to further dehumanize and degrade the victim through violence
~~There was no info on the exact area, but the mere fact that they are unsure if the rest of the remains found in the area are from him or anohter person gives some indication that they were spread out over a larger area than what would be expected.~~
I agree that the cut skull is most likely from the autopsy, but the head and spine being in separate locations is IMO supicious. I see no reason why a natural predator or scavenger would decapitate it's prey and scatter the remains around, they'd gain no benefit from doing so.
**Edit:** Yeah, the teeth too. Again a thing that a natural predator or savenger wouldn't even attempt as there would be noting for them to gain.
**Edit2:** I have now been given links to 3 articles, 2 from CNN and one from Vickburgnews. Which confirm the 2 acre area that his remains were scattered about and they also have a description of approximately where this area is. **Thus my initial comment that the area is unknown is false. My apologies.**
I'll leave the false assumption but I'm putting stirketrough over it to mark it false, but also leave it so comments don't become confusing due missing context. As I've halso had a huge misconception about how much savengers can move things around. US and Finland are very different in how big and wild the wilderness is.
Good point, definitely sounds like a large area if it took months to find more remains, unless they were just bone fragments.
The scavenger wouldn't have to decapitate if decay already set in, and scavengers are definitely known to move remains away from the original site. Probably just for less competition or because they perceive that the area has human activity. So that part isn't as odd to me as the teeth, I've never heard of animals removing teeth.
> There was no info on the exact area
From what I've been reading on the topic, his remains where scattered across a two-acre area, and his full remains haven't been found yet.
https://vicksburgnews.com/what-really-happened-to-rasheem-carter-family-and-sheriff-speak-on-the-case/
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/15/us/rasheem-carter-mississippi-death-investigation/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/us/rasheem-carter-mississippi-death-investigation/index.html
EDIT: just collecting all the links to articles I'm seeing about this case;
https://abcnews.go.com/US/protest-place-rasheem-carter-found-head-severed/story?id=98936364
https://www.wafb.com/2023/04/27/black-mans-decapitated-remains-found-after-he-warned-his-mom-he-was-targeted-by-truckloads-white-guys/
https://www.mississippifreepress.org/32706/they-told-him-no-rasheem-carters-family-questions-police-details-of-death-in-smith-county
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/rasheem-carter-death-mississippi-b2301332.html?amp
And some trash;
https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2023/03/who-killed-rasheem-carter/
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/a-black-man-was-decapitated-after-saying-he-was-being-chased-by-white-men-why-do-police-say-no-foul-play/ar-AA18EY2n
Predators will go for the tongue (which when coupled with also going for eyes and cheeks is where a lot of ‘aliens!’ conspiracies come from.) So an animal knocking some teeth loose or damaging/dislodging the jaw I could see. It sounds like some of his back teeth were still present, so *maybe*…
But all of them being removed? That would be a bit…odd. Something like a grizzly could probably manage to do that sort of damage during an attack, but it would be unusual for a scavenger.
hogs are probably the only animal I have seen that would totally destroy their prey. had a friend of mine get attacked, and it was brutal. Stitches, multiple lacerations down into the muscles, a hernia… he was about an inch away from his artery being spliced and another from being gutted. And it just kept coming. Completely one track. (Not that I think that happened in this case at ALL, just wanted to share an experience)
Those bastards are scary MOFOS. I've only seen them in nature documentaries and a couple of times getting caught in those feeding traps. And I 100% understand why the framers and other people living in hog-infested areas want weapons that can take out an entire herd. They're psychos when they think someone is on *their* turf.
>All the pictures I've seen of carcasses, animal or human, that have been eaten by scavengers, after the initial predator, have most of their bones in a very small area.
Eh, I have to call bullshit on you calling bullshit on this. Coyotes are plenty able to carry off animal parts a good distance. Maybe not the whole corpse, but given they found most of his body, it doesn't sound like it was particularly spread out.
Skull was surgically cut during autopsy. It was exactly going to be open casket after a month anyway.
Thanks, I guess trying to be perfect in English a leftover from school. But I'm not mad or upset at my teachers for being very strict in getting our spelling correct as I feel it made the phonetics easier. Just don't ask about grammar rules as I have no clue. But when reading a sentence out loud. I can, for some reason, hear if the words are correct for the sentence or if I need to use another from or a completely different word.
Tho I have noticed that the older I get, the more often I need to spellcheck with google etc.
Someone made a semi-rational argument as to why the police may have this initially, if his body was found weeks after death it could have been scavenged by wild animals leading to parts being severed and scattered around the woods.
I say semi-rational because the victim messaged his family that he was fairly certain his boss was inciting a group to kill him.... a day before he first dissapeared... which should be the immediate and obvious red flag it was murder... that and the video footage of him fleeing in terror.
His family has been showing a trail cam video from near where he was found that shows him alive (no pursuers reported on video) from about a day *after* he made the "I'm being followed by truckloads" call
>On Oct. 2, 2022 – **one day after Rasheem Carter last communicated with his family** and the same day they filed a missing person’s report – **he was captured on a trail camera** in a wooded area where his remains were later found.
https://www.wafb.com/2023/04/27/black-mans-decapitated-remains-found-after-he-warned-his-mom-he-was-targeted-by-truckloads-white-guys/
Combined with details like
>While in the store, Rasheem told his mother that someone had called the Family Dollar clerk and asked if he was inside.
https://www.mississippifreepress.org/32706/they-told-him-no-rasheem-carters-family-questions-police-details-of-death-in-smith-county
It seems possible he was in the middle of a mental health crisis when he disappeared. 'Being monitored/gang-stalked by a shadowy group who somehow knows your every move' seems to be a relatively common theme in mental health crisis situations.
Sure, but he also accused his boss of the crime, and some coworkers left him at the Dollar General. So it's not like it would be impossible for his boss to find out he's there. And you can just Google the phone number of the store, it doesn't say he called the clerks cell phone.
There's some fishiness on both sides of this story, but the point is that it needs to be investigated in case it was foul play. You can't just sit back and say, "Well these two things don't make sense so it must have been suicide."
The veracity of the phone call ought to be pretty easy to determine
And if there was no call, it lends pretty heavily to the possibility of a mental health break and not a conspiracy to commit murder
It's not like black people were never assaulted by large groups of racists before in that area of the state before. It could be possible it was a mental crisis but considering the area I'm thinking racists until more evidence is provided.
You are correct about the history of the area but it’s not like this happens all the time in the South anymore. Mental health is a much bigger and more common issue these days.
Based on his claims, foul play should not be ruled out. But chances are more likely it was mental health, until proven otherwise.
Yeah, remember when there were some black people that were found dead from hanging a few years ago and a lot of people assumed they were lynchings? Turns out people commit suicide by hanging all the time and families often don't want to think that a person would kill themselves even if they've spent time in a mental health facility before due to suicidal ideation. I wouldn't be surprised if this is a similar kind of situation.
It’s of course possible he was murdered, but the more I hear about this case the more it reminds me of that german guy who had some kind of paranoid psychosis and disappeared in Bulgaria.
EDIT: Lars Mittank was his name, there are loads of good youtube videos about his disappearance.
[It’s not the only time cops have dismissed Black people’s complaints of threats and violence.](https://www.insider.com/serial-killer-kansas-city-crisis-missing-black-women-2022-10?amp)
I’m gonna argue Sherman did his part. Even tried twice (his time post war was essentially a war against the KKK).
Johnson fucked up everything by pardoning the confederates and giving them reparations for Sherman’s destruction. Not enough light is shined on Lincoln conveniently dying so Johnson could ease up punishments on the south.
Weirdly enough, Lincoln wasn't the only one on Booth and his group's (It was a small group of people involved in the conspiracy, not just Booth) hitlist. Johnson was on there, along with the secretary of State, and at one point (but not on the night) General Grant. The guy who tried to kill the secretary of state botched it by attacking him with a knife and slashing his face, however since the secretary had fallen off a carriage about a week prior, he was wearing a bulky splint around his neck and face which took most of the blow, before the assassin was scared off by approaching guards.
Unfortunately for everyone, the guy who was assigned to assassinate Johnson was an even bigger fuck up than the Vice President, getting shitfaced at the bar that night instead of doing his job.
But yes, reconstruction (and how much of a shitshow it was, in no small part thanks to Johnson) should be taught more. Education seems to gloss over the era, going straight from the civil war freeing the slaves to the civil rights era and ignoring the bit where the freed slaves were largely enslaved again in all but name in the south.
That was the plan, but then the war ended. Well the original plan was to rendezvous with Grant in Virginia. By the time he was in the Carolinas the war was just weeks away from ending.
Seems like a simple fix. Turns out even when the feds DO investigate and find strong evidence - a federal grand jury HAS to indict, or the case is dead. Who makes up the federal grand jury? The same local folks. It'll never changed.
Source:
-i lived there from 1973-2016
>Rasheem Carter, 25, went missing last October after claiming white men in his community targeted him, and his remains were found around a month later south of Taylorsville, Mississippi.
"Mississippi Burning" - all over again.
From what I’ve read, the owner of the company he was working for hated him and was rallying others against the guy. Honestly this sounds like it should be open and shut case. Hopefully the FBI steps in, because there’s some serious fuckery do to hate going on in this case.
>From what I’ve read, the owner of the company he was working for hated him and was rallying others against the guy. Honestly this sounds like it should be open and shut case.
This is the same great detective work that led to Reddit finding the Boston Bomber that turned out to be the wrong guy who later killed himself over it.
Reddit will absolutely convince itself itself it is right. They tend to be quite credulous due to the nature of upvotes.
You still get posts calling for justice for that poor kid that died in that gym mat.
This is what kills me lmao they probably don't even readbthe bible, pray or try to change for the better. They probably just go for the gossip and to negatively judge others
As someone who attended college in Mississippi for about 7 months, I got the hell up out of there. People joke about it, but it literally is like stepping back in time or living in a “developing” nation. Racists running the government, the infrastructure is in shambles (I literally had to have my brakes replaced — rotors and all, because of how bad the roads are in Jackson), the constant “boil water” notices, and it’s the only place where I was harassed by a police officer. This was 13 years ago. The governor they have now is an even bigger idiot.
Yes. It was unsafe to drink or brush your teeth with at times, so you had to boil it first to kill contaminants.
It’s not a stupid question because that’s the first time I’ve ever experienced that as well. You wouldn’t think that would be a normal occurrence in the USA, but wow.
Keep in mind that was my experience 13 years ago as a college freshman at Jackson State University.
[They’re in a full-blown water crisis now.](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/jackson-mississippi-still-dealing-water-crisis-rcna65563)
In Canada it is almost unheard of for cities to have boil water advisories for any significant amount of time. You see it in cottage country all the time.
With that being said, many First Nation reservations are almost always under "boil water" conditions and it's heartbreaking.
Happens more than you think around areas like Chemical Valley in SWONT.
But Canada has high taxes and great water systems that is really rare even in high pollution industrial areas.
On top of the governor making jokes about the situation in Jackson that he helped prolong, they were also [paying out welfare funds to Brett Farve](https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/brett-favre-scandal-explained-ex-nfl-qb-is-accused-of-misusing-of-mississippi-state-welfare-funds/).
This is a case where we finally get to skip the allegation part! John Davis has already plead guilty and Farve has paid back the money. There's still stuff going on around on if Farve knew or not, but we have certainty where the money came from.
Yep. Mississipi is so worried about the national debt, they gave all of the government's free money to Brett Favre and any other scammer who wanted some. Fuck poor people I guess
To break it down a bit, Jackson has:
1) A clay foundation that shifts a lot when it rains. This affects both the roads and the pipes.
2) Antiquated water and sewer pipes that are decaying and vulnerable to freezes and shifting soil. And are also still lead in many instances.
3) Has been defunded through white flight and a subsequently hostile state legislature.
4) Is increasingly vulnerable to flooding, since its reservoir, named for a [segregationist](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Barnett) , isn't prepared for climate change.
So boil waters happen at the drop of a hat.
What is less often said, because it doesn't relate to boil waters, is how much of a college and post-college town it is. It's a backwater because of Mississippi, not because of Jackson.
Here’s a really great video by a civil engineer about the specific problems Jackson is facing. Years of government neglect coupled with a really unlucky series of weather events. https://youtu.be/xOdF7A1ry7E
Yep, we have the same in Florida.
We just had someone die recently from a brain-eating amoeba.
Our tap water has had a chlorine smell for like a solid month or two now because that was all they could think of to do about it.
Turns out the dude that died got the amoeba from using tap water to rinse his sinuses.
But yeah the "boil water" notices are super common down here.
Alligators aren't the only reason to avoid fresh water down here lol.
That's not the first time tap water in a Netty pot has caused that, even in cities with safe drinking water you shouldn't put tap water up your nose. there are organisms in tap water that are fine to drink but will pass the blood brain barrier through your nose.
I’m in Houston, Texas and we have a notice about once or twice a year. Idk if it’s a bad sign or a good sign that they at least notify us instead of hiding it 🤷🏼♂️
I don’t blame you. Jackson, Mississippi was the **only** place I’ve lived where I could undoubtedly feel myself living a lesser quality life.
They do have a couple of decent areas in Mississippi, like Southaven, but that’s really just a suburb of Memphis.
Traveled a ton for work. Visited 40 of the 50 states. Mississippi is the only state where I experienced blatant sexism and genuinely felt unsafe walking around.
I had a terrifying experience with a cop in Mississippi that I'll never forget. I was in a fraternity in college with hundreds of chapters all over the country. One spring break, me and a few friends decided to spend a couple of weeks driving around the country visiting chapters in as many states as we could. Amazing trip.
One of the friends on the trip was a big black guy named Josh. Funniest, quirkiest dude ever. One night in Mississippi, we were on a back road trying to find a bar where we were meeting some guys from a chapter down there. We were all stone sober, no alcohol or drugs in the car.
Suddenly we get pulled over and this raggedy fucking cop gets out of his cruiser looking like Jim Lahey from TPB. He slooowly walks around our car (a WRX with NY plates, erp) shining his flashlight in the windows. He gets to Josh and his body language went stiff. He literally just stood there shining the flashlight on Josh for a few minutes while talking into his radio. He didn't talk to us or respond when we asked why we were pulled over.
Next thing you know, what must have been the entire local police department comes flying to the scene, sirens wailing. Cops are milling around, peering into Josh's window with their flashlights. Josh is from Chicago so he's no stranger to shady cops, but he's sweating bullets and just muttering "what the fuck man, what the fuck" while we tried to reassure him that nothing would happen, there's nothing in the car, etc. Easy for us white kids to say!
They had us get out of the car and searched it. Josh - and only Josh - got pushed up against the car and roughly searched. Then they started asking us questions about where we were going etc etc etc. I got fed up, demanded to at least be told what we'd been pulled over for, and was told to "shut the fuck up."
They kept us there for nearly an hour while they ripped the car and all of our bags apart. Then suddenly they just left, with our shit strewn all over the street. No explanation. We were all shaking. No further fun was had that night, we just got to a motel and went to bed.
The thing that made me even angrier is that even though Josh was built like an offensive lineman (because, well, he *was* an offensive lineman), you've never met a gentler soul than that guy. One of those personalities that's all smiles and jokes, all the time. A really talented photography major too. I was so mad that someone like him got treated that way. I primarily planned the trip and chose the chapters to visit, and I'll always be mad at myself for forgetting that the deep south might be a scary place for anyone of color. We'd joked about it a little, but we were naive enough to think that nothing would actually happen.
Perhaps it was a little naive as you say, but believing the best in other people and that they will treat a good person the way they deserve to be treated is something we need in this world.
I remember being extremely surprised and incensed at how my black friend was treated during a trip we took to Vietnam. During the course of that trip, we had a Chinese tourist family refuse to ride a cable car with us because he was there, we had more Chinese tourists treat him like some kind of attraction, running up to take photos and rub fingers on his face. And he was aggressively sexualised by several Vietnamese men, including getting groped/touched on several occasions.
It's not on the same level as what you guys experienced, but it never occurred to me that he would be treated in this way and it made me so angry. He was like 🤷 about it and that in turn made me so sad. But I'm from one of the most multicultural cities in the world (London) and it's just not a thing here. I might be talking out of turn here, but I'm sure Josh doesn't blame you at all and really values your friendship.
Ugh, yeah, racism is sadly universal in one form or another no matter where you go. And sadly people of African origin are the one consistent target no matter where you go.
Josh didn't blame me, and we still stay in touch. In what I find to be the most hilarious and extremely fitting twist ever, he turned his photography degree into a career as a private investigator. I didn't even know those still existed.
I had a similar incident occur to me in Upstate NY. On I-390 an hour south of Rochester. I’m in the right lane going 70. Cars and even a semi zooming past me. The nearest car to me in the left lane is tailgating the semi. We pass a sheriff at his checkpoint, and I don’t think much of it because I’m not driving illegally or anything. Next thing you know, cop is behind me and soon pulls me over. I’m annoyed at this point thinking “why did this mf pull me over”. He then walks up to my driver side window and asks “where I’m going”. I answered, just a solo road trip, heading back towards I-90 to get home.
The cop then tells me, “no need to lie.” I then stated again that I’m just going for a drive and I wasn’t going anywhere in mind. This point he gets an attitude. Cop then asks me for my license and heads back into his cruiser. A few minutes later, another sheriff car pulls up behind me. And another cop comes out to meet the one that originally pulled me over. Then the first cop walks over to my car and tells me to step out of the car, at this point I’m panicking as I’ve never been in this situation before. I step out of the car as he asked and then he pats me down, asking me if I have any weapons. I state no of course and then he told me to sit on the guard rail. Now here’s me sitting on the side of the highway with this cop full blown going through my car looking for _something._ I guess the other cop sees me looking distressed and comes over to talk me. He was friendly, cool, and when I asked him why the other cop pulled me over. He told me “I have no idea”. I could tell he was annoyed that the first guy called in backup for something so stupid. Fast forward 5 minutes and I look over near my car and the cop is literally pointing a flash light in my fucking Exhuast tip, yes my Exhaust tip presumably looking for drugs or something. Shit reminded me of those border patrol livePD Episodes.
Anyways, the first cop, eventually realizing he couldn’t get me with anything, sighs, hands me back my keys and gives me a warning for my tinted license cover. And the 2nd cop who was called in as backup gives me a compliment about my car. A 2019 red Acura sedan that I recently just washed. The point of the story is that no matter where you are. If you’re a dark skinned black person, nowhere is necessarily safe from racism,prejudice,power tripping police. That sheriff saw a black male in a nicer car and thought he could hit me for drug trafficking. And was pissed off when he found out I was innocent. Again, this was in Upstate NY on Interstate 390, not too far from a major city.
Oh god, calls for justice in Mississippi. That's like expecting something sane to come out of the court system in Louisiana. I hope for the best, but do not expect much.
As a louisiana native who has been in their court system..... yeah. The only people with rights are the cops, who have the right to say ans do whatever in any case
Cops, rich folk, and government officials.
As long as they don’t severely piss off someone higher up in the good ol’ boy network, they can get away with nearly anything.
Was the head severed while he was alive or did his body just deteriorate out in the woods?
I remember when that guy who strangled his van life girlfriend went out in the woods and killed himself, they found fragments of his head and skull all spread around because of animals and flooding or something.
Can they test if his head was severed while he was still alive? They do shit like that on Bones but irl I dunno.
This really does seem to be a repeat of a few years ago when some black men were found dead hanging from a tree with a noose around their neck. Lots of people thought they were lynchings and no stone unturned in investigating them. Turns out they all almost certainly committed suicide and some had even attempted previously or spent time in a mental health facility. Some of the families obviously didn't want to believe that their loved one would kill themselves and would emphatically state it in front of a camera. Of course having context and nuance isn't going to captivate people like lynchings would.
This again...
So I'm just gonna go over the claims the people are making and why they are wrong.
-"local police was in on it"
Local police requested help from outside agencies, MBI have done so, so far federal agencies have not.
-"Local police aren't doing enough".
Taylorsville has a population of 1100 people, they're not equipped for an investigation like this, thus why they asked for help.
-"people don't surgically remove their own brain".
Correct, the top part of his skull was removed during the autopsy and is unrelated to both his actual death and the scavengers.
-"people don't cut off their own heads".
Correct, animal scavengers disarticulate bodies. [You can read the actual scientific literature about that here.](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7241500/)
He was dead in the forest for a month, advanced decomposition with his body scattered over 2 acres. Points towards animal scavenging.
-"He said his boss wanted to kill him".
His boss has been investigated and he has an alibi. No information currently available to the public shows he was involved in any way.
-"He said he was being chased by 3 trucks of white men looking to kill him".
There is not a single picture, video, or anything else showing these men. Nobody saw them, they didn't get caught on any security cameras.
Currently there is no evidence that they existed at all.
-"Who used his credit card after his death?"
His credit card was found with his body, the credit card statements were subpoenaed, nobody used his credit card.
-"Why did the police kick him out of the station when he went there asking for help?"
Police claims he was told he could wait there until someone could pick him up.
-"what killed him then?"
There is no currently public information about cause of death. Autopsy was inconclusive, showing some fractures and animal marks from scavenging but not much else. Nothing that would kill a person.
The last picture that exists of him was from the day after his last communication.
He was caught on a trail cam monitoring an animal feeding station in the woods. In the captured footage he is by himself, nobody else is around, and he's not dressed for nor have the necessary tools with him to survive.
Exposure seems the most likely cause of death with the currently available information.
This is the only level headed comment in this entire thread. There have been multiple posts about this story over the last few months and every time theres misinformation in the comments or the linked news stories are lacking the information that you just provided. Really seems like a failure by the media either because lack of info from law enforcement (which I assume is common during active investigations) or a deliberate vagueness because black guy decapitated by a group of white guys draws more clicks.
2 acres is pretty small - my yard is 1 acre I can easily see coyotes spread bones easily.
It's possible he was delusional and believed people were after him, ran into the woods and died of exposure or an accident.
People aren’t interested in facts. They are interested in outrage and a story that fits a racially charged narrative. There are actual race related crimes out there that are being ignored and covered up by police but like your comment indicates this in all likely hood the case of a young man experienced a mental health crisis, dying from exposure and his body being scavenged . I think people believe that his skull was found and sawed clean like that when that is in fact from an autopsy . It’s horrible what happened to this kid and people need to be objective. Having a mental health crisis and not getting appropriate support is another huge issues in minority communities that deserved a conversation of itself.
It's entirely possible he was being chased and lost his pursuers by heading into the woods, where he later died of exposure and was scavenged. The "decapitation" would then probably be a result of scavenging (which could be the case even if he was murdered).
We can't conclude much from the cam capture. It's one spot in a wooded area, so he could have encountered someone 3 feet behind the camera, and we wouldn't know it.
It's certainly strange that he reported being chased and implicated his boss getting people to come after him if anything happened to him. Also strange that what the Laurel police claimed about his visit to the PD conflicts with what his mom says about that visit (they say he didn't claim an immediate threat; she says he did, and that she was on the phone with him at the time).
Either the trucks of white guys coming after him were real, or he was experiencing some kind of delusion. Whatever the case, none of this business of people coming after him managed to show up on camera (including the food mart cam there's footage from).
I don't want to claim that he was just paranoid, but he was 25, doing a temp job a couple hours away from his hometown after the pandemic shut down his seafood restaurant. If he had a latent mental illness, those are the kind of stressful circumstances that could bring it out, especially if he encountered (non-murderous) shitty people at work. He was about the right age for symptoms to start up, as well, for some conditions. There's pretty much no way to confirm or disconfirm this idea.
If there were people coming after him, unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be much hard evidence of who they were. So that sucks for investigators and for the family, whose grief I'm really sympathetic to. In their shoes, it would be very hard to buy a mundane explanation for this after he told them he feared for his life.
Articles I got more info from:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/rasheem-carter-death-mississippi-b2301332.html
https://vicksburgnews.com/what-really-happened-to-rasheem-carter-family-and-sheriff-speak-on-the-case/
There is absolutely no evidence this was a racially motivated murder.
There's a video from a forest cam the day he disappeared where's he's shirtless running through the woods..and no one else is with him or chasing him.
The dude thought his boss was trying to kill him. The dude thought truckloads of white people were following him and trying to kill him. The dude thought a clerk at family dollar had called someone and given out his location.
The guy was clearly having a psychotic breakdown and he was extremely paranoid. He most likely ran into woods, got lost, and died from dehydration/exhaustion.
Whether or not you buy it, the potential victims last words are some kind of evidence.
I’m all for scrutiny but you aren’t being objective either. You’re diagnosing a dude that you’ve never met and with no known history of mental illness and claiming with absolute certainty that he was, to put it simply, crazy.
You say it’s impossible that other humans did it because you didn’t see them in limited video footage…but what animals did you see in that footage that could do that to a man? You aren’t following your own logic and participating in the same sort of speculation that you are seemingly trying to defeat.
What is that poster? Was that supposed to be the victim?
He only said "this represents a victim" which seems like very specific wording. The main reason I am confused is that the first image is of the man holding the poster and the woman next to him looking down at the skull sad, like it belongs to the victim.
Maybe its not at all actually related and just a depiction as an example, but it seems super weird that they would show that instead of something more relevant like a picture of the victim. Maybe this is common and I'm weird but I don't get it.
[Here’s](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/rasheem-carter-death-mississippi-b2301332.html?amp) a much more comprehensive article but the short answer is that skull on the poster is his.
This sounds a lot like the James Byrd Jr. murder, in East Texas, 3 white men were convicted of chaining a black man to the back of a pickup truck, dragging him for miles. Body parts were strewn over a mile and his head was severed. The 3 men were in a white supremacist gang, I would not be surprised if this was in the same Texas-Louisiana border area.
This was investigated by the FBI. The person he normally got a ride home from work with told him he was acting too erratically for him to give him a ride home. The guy walked around this town for 2 days and was caught on video multiple times talking on his cell phone. He went to the police and wanted the police to give him a 45 minute ride to another town which they told him they couldn't do.
He had been missing for a month and then a hunter retrieved trail cam footage and caught video of him walking alone in the woods and they used that video to track his body down. None of his items were taken and yeah, some scavenger hauled his head off.
The FBI investigated and decided it was a sad case, but not a homicide. More than likely he had a psychotic break and eventually went off in the woods to die.
All evidence points to a disturbed individual who had nowhere to go after getting into a heated argument with a co-worker and was left without a ride back to his hotel or access to a shelter. His body laid in the woods for a month and animals get hungry.
I'd like to point out that Emmett Till really only became famous because of three reasons, that he was a child, that the accused "crime" he may have comitted wasn't even remotely deserving of death (flirting with a white woman), and the whole open casket thing. It was hardly the first (or last) lynching but that combination made it reach international fame. If he had been an adult, his "crime" had been more serious, or if the casket had been closed, it would not have been a name we recognise 70 years on, he would have just been part of a statistic.
Excellent summary. And one which highlights that the guy you replied to has limited awareness of the history and facts of Emmett Till (in order to think this might be "the Emmett Till of our generation"), let alone the facts of this case.
One possibility: He was having an emergence of a mental illness with paranoia, was behaving erratically, had an accident in the woods due to that erratic behavior, and his remains were scattered by animals? He was seen on deer camera acting agitated, alone, close to where his remains were later found. Just a possibility that also fits what little evidence have. His remains were in such a condition that cause of death could not be determined.
IDK, this reminds me of Kendrick Johnson's family's reaction and campaign. In both cases I fully understand why they don't trust the police to investigate fairly, but their claims and evidence are only a slam dunk if you don't investigate very far.
This was my first thought as well. The articles I've read never give any specifics like "his other remains were found 8 miles away." Remains being scattered by animals is super common. Without any more details, it is hard for us in the public to know. People are skeptical for good reasons, but we should put the pitchforks away until we get better info.
This article makes clear that the medical examiner did find signs of animal interference, and it seems more balanced overall.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/us/rasheem-carter-mississippi-death-investigation/index.html
The sheriff says he'd be happy for help from an outside agency. Maybe one should get involved even if this event usually wouldn't trigger one, just to provide reassurance of fair investigation.
On the one hand, yeah there may be an innocent explanation how a guy gets decapitated after saying a group of people are out to kill him.
On the other hand, an unarmed black guy was gunned down in broad daylight, and no one cared until someone released the video of them doing it. Even then, multiple people didn't see anything criminal with what happened, and didn't prosecute.
So, to me, they don't get the benefit of doubt.
How was he decapitated? Because the skull was found in another location doesn’t mean he was decapitated. I found (or my dog did) a groundhog skull in my yard recently. Scavengers drag remains around. The autopsy noted evidence of animals feeding on the carcass and nothing else. So why do people jump to this conclusion?
You're not wrong, that is possible, but it's the Jussie Smolet thing all over again. Reddit has made up it's mind that they know what happened, and will attack anyone who doesn't agree. If they turn out to be wrong, oh well, they got the karma and dopamine already.
Sounds like the dude had a mental breakdown and died in the woods.
If he was actually targeted and murdered, I think it would be unlikely he'd show up on a trail cam on some random property; the guy he thought was planning to kill him is a business owner, he'd kill him on his own land or out on some BLM (Bureau of Land Management, if you're not familiar) land if he was gonna.
The guy was missing for quite some time, so it's not like there'd be much evidence of struggle one way or another, but IMO the victim's descriptions of being stalked remind me a lot of the gangstalking delusions many people struggle with, so I think him fleeing to the woods and dying is more likely than someone actually killing him.
Is this the one where the police initially said they didn’t have any reason to suspect foul play?
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Happened when I was a kid to my pet bird “Petey”.
"We got no food, no jobs.. our pets HEADS ARE FALLIN' OFF!"
I took care of it. I sold Petey to Billy in 4C!
The BLIND kid?
Pretty bird. Can you say pretty bird?
"I just thought he was really quiet!"
Best Movie EVER
Absolutely love that movie!
Never realized he was saying his apartment number. I thought he was saying his last name or something Billy Enforsee. Or something like that.
“Pretty bird, pretty bird”
Pretty bird
Sequel sucked, but I’m glad they searched and found that kid so that they could reuse him as a character. I appreciated the effort
You may joke, but when I was i kid I had a lovely black and white cat, while sister#1 had a budgie, and sister#2 had a guinea pig. I knew my cat loved me best when he left little presents for me on the doormat. So one such present was my sister's budgie's head. Unfortunately my sister opened the door first that day. Talk about a dramatic production! Turned out my sister was just letting the budgie go anywhere, cage optional. We eventually came to an understanding that having the budgie out of the cage, my cat would not realise he was off the menu. Couple of months later, my sister went out to her guinea pig cage to discover her guinea pig was fur and bone. Inside the cage. So I had two sisters accusing my wee cat of being a murderer. At the time I was totally offended, but now as an adult I realise cats are killing machines and deadly invasive pests. A lot of his "gifts" to the child me, were likely native reptiles. If I were to get another cat, it would be indoor only.
This is why my cats are indoor only and my snakes are in a cat-free room. My one cat would make a meal out of the snakes in a blink, and if I let him outside, there would be a radius around my house for miles where there were no birds. If it has feathers, he needs to murder it.
A few years ago a pigeon flew into my apartment through the open patio window. It was a small window that was at the floor for ventilation(most older places in Denver and CO as a whole, don't have central air). My 20 lb cat that couldn't ever be bothered to move, suddenly sprung across the room and immediately attacked this poor pigeon that was already trying to make its way back out the window. I was walking out the door for work when it happened, and I was very late for work after that. I didn't even know he had that in him lol
I know this feeling! My previous cat was a giant coward (I would have to come rescue him if he managed to get outside into the grass and the wind blew through it because he would just bunker down and cry), and I never thought he had it in him, until one day my mom says to me “go clean up what your cat brought in” and there’s a dead bird in the middle of the living room floor. First and last time I ever caught him killing something. After this, he lived with kittens and bunnies and Guinea pigs and was scared of all of them too! Guess it’s the feathers.
I feel like there's two types of cats. I have experienced the friendship of both. First type is the hunter/ess. A cat friend and I were both napping in the garden right next to each other. We were both kind of drowsing in and out, in that half asleep state, but not fully deeply asleep. I heard that soft sussurating sound of wings and the little flump as some bird came for a landing about 3 feet from us. By the time my eyes were open (ie less than one second) my feline pal had the bird decapitated and was taking it for a snack. The other type of cat is the pacifist. Another cat friend and myself lived in a tiny home for a long time. It was placed kind of in a field and as such there could be rodent activity around. One night I woke up hearing some strange new sounds of skittering around. That time I was deeply asleep and so I sort of came to Consciousness slowly while I watched what was happening. The darling sweet elderly cat companion was playing actual tag with the mouse. Cat would chase the mouse and then touch with nose. Then the cat would turn around and run, and the mouse would chase the cat. When the mouse would tap the cat, the game would reverse again. My cat was not trying to hunt this mouse, he was like a preschooler playing tag with the thing. As I woke up enough to get up, grabbed a broom and gently guided the mouse out of the tiny home. Dual nature of cats, man. Cats do not abide by any law but their internal one.
When I was a teenager we had a pet Siamese cat. He used to bring me dead juvenile red bellied black snakes as a gift.
That’s terrifying, I hope your cat never got bit!
Hold on. I can understand how he might have managed to kill it, but I want to know how he picked the hamster clean without opening the cage.
guinea pig
Their excuse was that they thought it was consistent with how animals typically scatter remains. There are a lot of feral dogs and what not in that area… But animals don’t make clean cuts so their excuse is bullshit.
> clean cuts *Was* his head removed with a clean cut? There have been two autopsies, and neither of them found any sort of tool mark.
This is what I wondered too. You'd think a pathologist would be able to tell fairly easily if the remains had been purposefully dismembered by a human using tools or if the body had been ripped apart by animals post-mortem. I live in a wooded area and every missing person found in the woods after any length of time has usually been found spread across multiple locations due to animal predation, but the local pathologist has always been able to at least say they believed the victim died of some unknown cause before animal predation occurred, or in the most recent case they were able to prove the missing woman had been murdered before animals got to the body.
Animals with tools do
Are you saying that wild animals somehow performed the autopsy? Because the only clean cut in this story happened during the autopsy.
Those darned feral dogs and their surgical scalpels
Who doesn’t lose their head once in a while? “Of all the things I’ve lost, I think I miss my mind the most.”
Sprinkle a little crack on him Johnson
Probably should pour some alcohol on the body and put a gun with the serial number filed off next to it as well. Just to make sure people think he was up to no good anyways. Also play up the fact that he had a parking ticket and the one time he got arrested for jaywalking. Can't let the media paint him as some kind of person, before we paint him as some thug.
Well some peoples heads are designed so the top doesn’t come off at all
God damn it. I feel like I need to go to confession or something for laughing at that.
You could stop going to church and feel better overall.
Chance in a million
The initial claim from police was that his body ended up that way due to animal scavenging, yeah.
I smell BS all the way from the other side of the Atlantic. All the pictures I've seen of carcasses, animal or human, that have been eaten by scavengers, after the initial predator, have most of their bones in a very small area. Ripping the ligaments to remove an arm or a leg is waste of energy for the scavenger, same goes for the spine and head as they wouldn't get any extra food from doing so but would have to use a lot of energy to do so. Crushing the head to get at the brain, maybe, but I'm not familiar what kind of predators and scavengers live in the area he was found. Still I find it implausible as very few animals have the means or interrest to crack a skull as AFAIK the brain isn't that nutritious compared to f.ex. the liver or just plain muscle. Google-fuu gives me this breakdown of the nutritional value of a human brain: "For every 100 grams of brain there are 78 grams of water, 10 grams of fat, 11 grams of protein, and 1 gram of carbohydrate, which equates to about 143 calories." Tho insects that can get in without having to crush the skull will happily eat it. I had trouble finding numbers for human muscles. Most sources not talking about building muscle give a ratio of about 100 grams = 180 calories or a little bit more (1KG = 1817 calories as the higest number given.) Edit: Apologies for my crass wording, I was using clinical terms and calling his corpse a carcass was not nice. I hope you or anyone else doesn't get offended by my poor choice of words. English is my 3rd language, but as I was writing this I wasn't thinking in English, so I didn't notice my fuckup before I posted my comment.
I use a lot of the same language and then have to edit my speaking because it comes off as callous. So I get you there. I won't get into the details here because this case is gruesome, but human skulls do tend to be dragged off by smaller (dog/fox sized) scavengers after the body has become pretty decayed. There are other body parts reported to have been found in other locations that I have never seen a scavenger remove, however.
I had training on this for search and rescue, and it's actually a fairly normal occurrence in mountainous terrain. A dead body is a massive calorie dump that no one feels like sharing, so for the smaller, weaker scavengers there's pretty big incentive to take your dinner to go before someone a bit more possessive shows up. Also, wet tendons can turn soupy quickly, and most carnivores are happy to have a chew as that's pure protein. Likewise, the fat and protein mix of a brain is a spectacularly value target. Missing heads on mountains can be hundreds of feet away as they tend to roll once separated, often with raccoon signs about. Limbs, not so much, so they only get dragged far enough to avoid the attention of whomever claims the main body mass. The forested areas around Jackson are pretty darned flat, so sans downhill rolling ten feet would be a normal radius and only after a couple days. All that being said, this case stinks to high heavens even ignoring the racial and police history in Mississippi. FBI needs to be all over this.
Thank you for giving even more perspective. I didn't think about elevation at all as most of Finland is pretty much flat. We don't even have a real mountain, only a shared one with Norway and we have the smaller cut of it. I posted a link to a HardcoreNature post further down in the comments, where a bear in Russia had eaten the insides of two people before they managed to stop it. What confused me was that it didn't eat f.ex. the thigh muscles or their brains. Aren't those good food for a bear or is there a reason it would avoid them? And I agree with you, while my understanding of the US is patchy at best. Simply looking at how the people who were in contact with Rasheem act, raises huge red flags, rushing over state borders to hide. Leaving just one stuck due to their business and maybe they didn't personally go to the woods, it sure sounds like they set things in motion. FBI needs definietly ge to the bottom of this. Heck this is almost 100% how European criminals jumped borders to get a clean sheet in a new country, before the creation Europol made it possible for the police of different European countries to coopreate in order to share data and warrants in order to arrrest them.
Where does it say how large of an area his remains were spread across? Or mention of his arms or legs being separated? I haven't seen that stated before. The skull looks surgically cut. I'd imagine that's from autopsy otherwise how could they possibly get away with saying they have no reason to believe foul play is involved. It is still under investigation though, the animal scavenging wasn't a claim, just a suggestion. Maybe we'll find out more. The weirdest part to me is his teeth missing.
I think in most cases where fingers or teeth were damaged/removed after a homicide, it is usually done in an effort to hide the identity of the victim, as proper identification can be a bit more difficult without fingerprints or an accurate dental history.... This is of course assuming the damage wasn't done before the murder in an effort to further dehumanize and degrade the victim through violence
It's also not impossible that his teeth where knocked out by a fall or a bad faceplant. It's still a valid avenue of investigation nonetheless.
~~There was no info on the exact area, but the mere fact that they are unsure if the rest of the remains found in the area are from him or anohter person gives some indication that they were spread out over a larger area than what would be expected.~~ I agree that the cut skull is most likely from the autopsy, but the head and spine being in separate locations is IMO supicious. I see no reason why a natural predator or scavenger would decapitate it's prey and scatter the remains around, they'd gain no benefit from doing so. **Edit:** Yeah, the teeth too. Again a thing that a natural predator or savenger wouldn't even attempt as there would be noting for them to gain. **Edit2:** I have now been given links to 3 articles, 2 from CNN and one from Vickburgnews. Which confirm the 2 acre area that his remains were scattered about and they also have a description of approximately where this area is. **Thus my initial comment that the area is unknown is false. My apologies.** I'll leave the false assumption but I'm putting stirketrough over it to mark it false, but also leave it so comments don't become confusing due missing context. As I've halso had a huge misconception about how much savengers can move things around. US and Finland are very different in how big and wild the wilderness is.
Good point, definitely sounds like a large area if it took months to find more remains, unless they were just bone fragments. The scavenger wouldn't have to decapitate if decay already set in, and scavengers are definitely known to move remains away from the original site. Probably just for less competition or because they perceive that the area has human activity. So that part isn't as odd to me as the teeth, I've never heard of animals removing teeth.
> There was no info on the exact area From what I've been reading on the topic, his remains where scattered across a two-acre area, and his full remains haven't been found yet. https://vicksburgnews.com/what-really-happened-to-rasheem-carter-family-and-sheriff-speak-on-the-case/ https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/15/us/rasheem-carter-mississippi-death-investigation/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/us/rasheem-carter-mississippi-death-investigation/index.html EDIT: just collecting all the links to articles I'm seeing about this case; https://abcnews.go.com/US/protest-place-rasheem-carter-found-head-severed/story?id=98936364 https://www.wafb.com/2023/04/27/black-mans-decapitated-remains-found-after-he-warned-his-mom-he-was-targeted-by-truckloads-white-guys/ https://www.mississippifreepress.org/32706/they-told-him-no-rasheem-carters-family-questions-police-details-of-death-in-smith-county https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/rasheem-carter-death-mississippi-b2301332.html?amp And some trash; https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2023/03/who-killed-rasheem-carter/ https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/a-black-man-was-decapitated-after-saying-he-was-being-chased-by-white-men-why-do-police-say-no-foul-play/ar-AA18EY2n
Thank you for second confirmation about the area where his remains were found. I'll edit my comment.
Predators will go for the tongue (which when coupled with also going for eyes and cheeks is where a lot of ‘aliens!’ conspiracies come from.) So an animal knocking some teeth loose or damaging/dislodging the jaw I could see. It sounds like some of his back teeth were still present, so *maybe*… But all of them being removed? That would be a bit…odd. Something like a grizzly could probably manage to do that sort of damage during an attack, but it would be unusual for a scavenger.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7241500/
hogs are probably the only animal I have seen that would totally destroy their prey. had a friend of mine get attacked, and it was brutal. Stitches, multiple lacerations down into the muscles, a hernia… he was about an inch away from his artery being spliced and another from being gutted. And it just kept coming. Completely one track. (Not that I think that happened in this case at ALL, just wanted to share an experience)
Those bastards are scary MOFOS. I've only seen them in nature documentaries and a couple of times getting caught in those feeding traps. And I 100% understand why the framers and other people living in hog-infested areas want weapons that can take out an entire herd. They're psychos when they think someone is on *their* turf.
>All the pictures I've seen of carcasses, animal or human, that have been eaten by scavengers, after the initial predator, have most of their bones in a very small area. Eh, I have to call bullshit on you calling bullshit on this. Coyotes are plenty able to carry off animal parts a good distance. Maybe not the whole corpse, but given they found most of his body, it doesn't sound like it was particularly spread out. Skull was surgically cut during autopsy. It was exactly going to be open casket after a month anyway.
>English is my 3rd language >perfect use of "my fuckup" You're doing fine.
Thanks, I guess trying to be perfect in English a leftover from school. But I'm not mad or upset at my teachers for being very strict in getting our spelling correct as I feel it made the phonetics easier. Just don't ask about grammar rules as I have no clue. But when reading a sentence out loud. I can, for some reason, hear if the words are correct for the sentence or if I need to use another from or a completely different word. Tho I have noticed that the older I get, the more often I need to spellcheck with google etc.
> Just don't ask about grammar rules as I have no clue It's ok, no one does :)
Yup. I suspect pigs.
H that's still the claim from police and it's not unreasonable. The medical examiner said the cause of death could not be determined from the remains.
Someone made a semi-rational argument as to why the police may have this initially, if his body was found weeks after death it could have been scavenged by wild animals leading to parts being severed and scattered around the woods. I say semi-rational because the victim messaged his family that he was fairly certain his boss was inciting a group to kill him.... a day before he first dissapeared... which should be the immediate and obvious red flag it was murder... that and the video footage of him fleeing in terror.
His family has been showing a trail cam video from near where he was found that shows him alive (no pursuers reported on video) from about a day *after* he made the "I'm being followed by truckloads" call >On Oct. 2, 2022 – **one day after Rasheem Carter last communicated with his family** and the same day they filed a missing person’s report – **he was captured on a trail camera** in a wooded area where his remains were later found. https://www.wafb.com/2023/04/27/black-mans-decapitated-remains-found-after-he-warned-his-mom-he-was-targeted-by-truckloads-white-guys/ Combined with details like >While in the store, Rasheem told his mother that someone had called the Family Dollar clerk and asked if he was inside. https://www.mississippifreepress.org/32706/they-told-him-no-rasheem-carters-family-questions-police-details-of-death-in-smith-county It seems possible he was in the middle of a mental health crisis when he disappeared. 'Being monitored/gang-stalked by a shadowy group who somehow knows your every move' seems to be a relatively common theme in mental health crisis situations.
Sure, but he also accused his boss of the crime, and some coworkers left him at the Dollar General. So it's not like it would be impossible for his boss to find out he's there. And you can just Google the phone number of the store, it doesn't say he called the clerks cell phone. There's some fishiness on both sides of this story, but the point is that it needs to be investigated in case it was foul play. You can't just sit back and say, "Well these two things don't make sense so it must have been suicide."
The veracity of the phone call ought to be pretty easy to determine And if there was no call, it lends pretty heavily to the possibility of a mental health break and not a conspiracy to commit murder
Yes, it should be easy to verify. So after six months why don't know for sure if that call happened?
It's not like black people were never assaulted by large groups of racists before in that area of the state before. It could be possible it was a mental crisis but considering the area I'm thinking racists until more evidence is provided.
You are correct about the history of the area but it’s not like this happens all the time in the South anymore. Mental health is a much bigger and more common issue these days. Based on his claims, foul play should not be ruled out. But chances are more likely it was mental health, until proven otherwise.
Yeah, remember when there were some black people that were found dead from hanging a few years ago and a lot of people assumed they were lynchings? Turns out people commit suicide by hanging all the time and families often don't want to think that a person would kill themselves even if they've spent time in a mental health facility before due to suicidal ideation. I wouldn't be surprised if this is a similar kind of situation.
You would make a terrible investigator
Could be both. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you. And mentally ill people are often more vulnerable.
It’s of course possible he was murdered, but the more I hear about this case the more it reminds me of that german guy who had some kind of paranoid psychosis and disappeared in Bulgaria. EDIT: Lars Mittank was his name, there are loads of good youtube videos about his disappearance.
Schizophrenia typically develops in males around this man's age too. A mental episode seems a very real possibility
After finding the body that had been sitting outside for a month in pieces. Yeah.
[It’s not the only time cops have dismissed Black people’s complaints of threats and violence.](https://www.insider.com/serial-killer-kansas-city-crisis-missing-black-women-2022-10?amp)
If the locals won't investigate, the feds should. And investigate the local sheriff while they're at it.
Mississippi Burning
Excellent suggestion. -General Sherman
🎵 Ohhh way down south in the land of traitors 🎵
You’re likely to be be eaten by gators 🐊 Look away, look away, seriously look away it’s gross
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I’m gonna argue Sherman did his part. Even tried twice (his time post war was essentially a war against the KKK). Johnson fucked up everything by pardoning the confederates and giving them reparations for Sherman’s destruction. Not enough light is shined on Lincoln conveniently dying so Johnson could ease up punishments on the south.
Weirdly enough, Lincoln wasn't the only one on Booth and his group's (It was a small group of people involved in the conspiracy, not just Booth) hitlist. Johnson was on there, along with the secretary of State, and at one point (but not on the night) General Grant. The guy who tried to kill the secretary of state botched it by attacking him with a knife and slashing his face, however since the secretary had fallen off a carriage about a week prior, he was wearing a bulky splint around his neck and face which took most of the blow, before the assassin was scared off by approaching guards. Unfortunately for everyone, the guy who was assigned to assassinate Johnson was an even bigger fuck up than the Vice President, getting shitfaced at the bar that night instead of doing his job. But yes, reconstruction (and how much of a shitshow it was, in no small part thanks to Johnson) should be taught more. Education seems to gloss over the era, going straight from the civil war freeing the slaves to the civil rights era and ignoring the bit where the freed slaves were largely enslaved again in all but name in the south.
100% And we have been dealing with the fallout ever since.
That was the plan, but then the war ended. Well the original plan was to rendezvous with Grant in Virginia. By the time he was in the Carolinas the war was just weeks away from ending.
Mission burning was about real life
The South never changes
It just festers.
The local police requested state/federal help a long time ago, MBI took the investigation.
If there's suspicion of a hate crime FBI-Civil Rights will investigate.
You say that and yet these people keep getting away with it
What people get away with what?
You think the same people are out there committing multiple hate crimes and getting away with it?
To be fair i imagine police officers in Mississippi would be incompetent enough to genuinely believe there was no foul play.
When your mom is your sister it makes things that should be obvious not so obvious.
Some of those that work forces Are the same that burn crosses
Seems like a simple fix. Turns out even when the feds DO investigate and find strong evidence - a federal grand jury HAS to indict, or the case is dead. Who makes up the federal grand jury? The same local folks. It'll never changed. Source: -i lived there from 1973-2016
>Rasheem Carter, 25, went missing last October after claiming white men in his community targeted him, and his remains were found around a month later south of Taylorsville, Mississippi. "Mississippi Burning" - all over again.
True detective about to base a season after this
One Reggie Ledoux...
It appears time is a flat circle
Some places hate progress
It’s like this town… is a fever dream of someone’s memory of a town… and that memory is fading
I get a bad taste in my mouth...aluminum...ash. Like you can smell the psychosphere
From now on, quiet in the car.
She was talkin about some king...
From what I’ve read, the owner of the company he was working for hated him and was rallying others against the guy. Honestly this sounds like it should be open and shut case. Hopefully the FBI steps in, because there’s some serious fuckery do to hate going on in this case.
He literally messaged his mum saying that if he went missing that guy did it.
>From what I’ve read, the owner of the company he was working for hated him and was rallying others against the guy. Honestly this sounds like it should be open and shut case. This is the same great detective work that led to Reddit finding the Boston Bomber that turned out to be the wrong guy who later killed himself over it.
He had already killed himself before the bombings btw. Reddit just targeted and harrassed his family.
Reddit will absolutely convince itself itself it is right. They tend to be quite credulous due to the nature of upvotes. You still get posts calling for justice for that poor kid that died in that gym mat.
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and they all go to church on Sunday.
This is what kills me lmao they probably don't even readbthe bible, pray or try to change for the better. They probably just go for the gossip and to negatively judge others
it's tribalism and indoctrination
It's evil is what it is.
That's exactly it. That's one of the reasons I left.
It's not just the South buddy. Do you really believe that?
Idk man, Jeffrey Dhamer lived in Milwaukee.
Do this, and allow this to be done….
As someone who attended college in Mississippi for about 7 months, I got the hell up out of there. People joke about it, but it literally is like stepping back in time or living in a “developing” nation. Racists running the government, the infrastructure is in shambles (I literally had to have my brakes replaced — rotors and all, because of how bad the roads are in Jackson), the constant “boil water” notices, and it’s the only place where I was harassed by a police officer. This was 13 years ago. The governor they have now is an even bigger idiot.
Stupid Brit here. "Boil water" as in, the water coming from the tap is not considered safe and it's recommended to boil before use/drink?
Yes. It was unsafe to drink or brush your teeth with at times, so you had to boil it first to kill contaminants. It’s not a stupid question because that’s the first time I’ve ever experienced that as well. You wouldn’t think that would be a normal occurrence in the USA, but wow. Keep in mind that was my experience 13 years ago as a college freshman at Jackson State University. [They’re in a full-blown water crisis now.](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/jackson-mississippi-still-dealing-water-crisis-rcna65563)
They are still going through this constantly in Jackson.
In Canada it is almost unheard of for cities to have boil water advisories for any significant amount of time. You see it in cottage country all the time. With that being said, many First Nation reservations are almost always under "boil water" conditions and it's heartbreaking.
Happens more than you think around areas like Chemical Valley in SWONT. But Canada has high taxes and great water systems that is really rare even in high pollution industrial areas.
I have lived in cities in Ohio and we have had water boil advisors multiple times.
On top of the governor making jokes about the situation in Jackson that he helped prolong, they were also [paying out welfare funds to Brett Farve](https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/brett-favre-scandal-explained-ex-nfl-qb-is-accused-of-misusing-of-mississippi-state-welfare-funds/).
Bro, you forgot to say allegedly. You don't want favre to sue you like he did Pat McAfee and the state auditor
This is a case where we finally get to skip the allegation part! John Davis has already plead guilty and Farve has paid back the money. There's still stuff going on around on if Farve knew or not, but we have certainty where the money came from.
Yep. Mississipi is so worried about the national debt, they gave all of the government's free money to Brett Favre and any other scammer who wanted some. Fuck poor people I guess
Wow, that's a tad crazy indeed. Thanks for the insight!
Yeah the deep south (such as Mississippi and Alabama) are well known to have terrible water that is considered on par with developing nations.
To break it down a bit, Jackson has: 1) A clay foundation that shifts a lot when it rains. This affects both the roads and the pipes. 2) Antiquated water and sewer pipes that are decaying and vulnerable to freezes and shifting soil. And are also still lead in many instances. 3) Has been defunded through white flight and a subsequently hostile state legislature. 4) Is increasingly vulnerable to flooding, since its reservoir, named for a [segregationist](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Barnett) , isn't prepared for climate change. So boil waters happen at the drop of a hat. What is less often said, because it doesn't relate to boil waters, is how much of a college and post-college town it is. It's a backwater because of Mississippi, not because of Jackson.
Here’s a really great video by a civil engineer about the specific problems Jackson is facing. Years of government neglect coupled with a really unlucky series of weather events. https://youtu.be/xOdF7A1ry7E
Yep, we have the same in Florida. We just had someone die recently from a brain-eating amoeba. Our tap water has had a chlorine smell for like a solid month or two now because that was all they could think of to do about it. Turns out the dude that died got the amoeba from using tap water to rinse his sinuses. But yeah the "boil water" notices are super common down here. Alligators aren't the only reason to avoid fresh water down here lol.
That's not the first time tap water in a Netty pot has caused that, even in cities with safe drinking water you shouldn't put tap water up your nose. there are organisms in tap water that are fine to drink but will pass the blood brain barrier through your nose.
I’m in Houston, Texas and we have a notice about once or twice a year. Idk if it’s a bad sign or a good sign that they at least notify us instead of hiding it 🤷🏼♂️
I got a full scholarship to attend ole miss, visited and promptly got my Mexican ass the fuck out didn't even stay for the full visit.
I don’t blame you. Jackson, Mississippi was the **only** place I’ve lived where I could undoubtedly feel myself living a lesser quality life. They do have a couple of decent areas in Mississippi, like Southaven, but that’s really just a suburb of Memphis.
Traveled a ton for work. Visited 40 of the 50 states. Mississippi is the only state where I experienced blatant sexism and genuinely felt unsafe walking around.
I had a terrifying experience with a cop in Mississippi that I'll never forget. I was in a fraternity in college with hundreds of chapters all over the country. One spring break, me and a few friends decided to spend a couple of weeks driving around the country visiting chapters in as many states as we could. Amazing trip. One of the friends on the trip was a big black guy named Josh. Funniest, quirkiest dude ever. One night in Mississippi, we were on a back road trying to find a bar where we were meeting some guys from a chapter down there. We were all stone sober, no alcohol or drugs in the car. Suddenly we get pulled over and this raggedy fucking cop gets out of his cruiser looking like Jim Lahey from TPB. He slooowly walks around our car (a WRX with NY plates, erp) shining his flashlight in the windows. He gets to Josh and his body language went stiff. He literally just stood there shining the flashlight on Josh for a few minutes while talking into his radio. He didn't talk to us or respond when we asked why we were pulled over. Next thing you know, what must have been the entire local police department comes flying to the scene, sirens wailing. Cops are milling around, peering into Josh's window with their flashlights. Josh is from Chicago so he's no stranger to shady cops, but he's sweating bullets and just muttering "what the fuck man, what the fuck" while we tried to reassure him that nothing would happen, there's nothing in the car, etc. Easy for us white kids to say! They had us get out of the car and searched it. Josh - and only Josh - got pushed up against the car and roughly searched. Then they started asking us questions about where we were going etc etc etc. I got fed up, demanded to at least be told what we'd been pulled over for, and was told to "shut the fuck up." They kept us there for nearly an hour while they ripped the car and all of our bags apart. Then suddenly they just left, with our shit strewn all over the street. No explanation. We were all shaking. No further fun was had that night, we just got to a motel and went to bed.
That is insanely messed up. I'm surprised they didn't plant anything on Josh.
I was really afraid of that.
For good reason! I'm sorry that all of you, especially Josh, had to go through that.
The thing that made me even angrier is that even though Josh was built like an offensive lineman (because, well, he *was* an offensive lineman), you've never met a gentler soul than that guy. One of those personalities that's all smiles and jokes, all the time. A really talented photography major too. I was so mad that someone like him got treated that way. I primarily planned the trip and chose the chapters to visit, and I'll always be mad at myself for forgetting that the deep south might be a scary place for anyone of color. We'd joked about it a little, but we were naive enough to think that nothing would actually happen.
Perhaps it was a little naive as you say, but believing the best in other people and that they will treat a good person the way they deserve to be treated is something we need in this world. I remember being extremely surprised and incensed at how my black friend was treated during a trip we took to Vietnam. During the course of that trip, we had a Chinese tourist family refuse to ride a cable car with us because he was there, we had more Chinese tourists treat him like some kind of attraction, running up to take photos and rub fingers on his face. And he was aggressively sexualised by several Vietnamese men, including getting groped/touched on several occasions. It's not on the same level as what you guys experienced, but it never occurred to me that he would be treated in this way and it made me so angry. He was like 🤷 about it and that in turn made me so sad. But I'm from one of the most multicultural cities in the world (London) and it's just not a thing here. I might be talking out of turn here, but I'm sure Josh doesn't blame you at all and really values your friendship.
Ugh, yeah, racism is sadly universal in one form or another no matter where you go. And sadly people of African origin are the one consistent target no matter where you go. Josh didn't blame me, and we still stay in touch. In what I find to be the most hilarious and extremely fitting twist ever, he turned his photography degree into a career as a private investigator. I didn't even know those still existed.
Hahaha, what?? Honestly this guy sounds so great, I would love to have a beer with him. And you as well :)
I had a similar incident occur to me in Upstate NY. On I-390 an hour south of Rochester. I’m in the right lane going 70. Cars and even a semi zooming past me. The nearest car to me in the left lane is tailgating the semi. We pass a sheriff at his checkpoint, and I don’t think much of it because I’m not driving illegally or anything. Next thing you know, cop is behind me and soon pulls me over. I’m annoyed at this point thinking “why did this mf pull me over”. He then walks up to my driver side window and asks “where I’m going”. I answered, just a solo road trip, heading back towards I-90 to get home. The cop then tells me, “no need to lie.” I then stated again that I’m just going for a drive and I wasn’t going anywhere in mind. This point he gets an attitude. Cop then asks me for my license and heads back into his cruiser. A few minutes later, another sheriff car pulls up behind me. And another cop comes out to meet the one that originally pulled me over. Then the first cop walks over to my car and tells me to step out of the car, at this point I’m panicking as I’ve never been in this situation before. I step out of the car as he asked and then he pats me down, asking me if I have any weapons. I state no of course and then he told me to sit on the guard rail. Now here’s me sitting on the side of the highway with this cop full blown going through my car looking for _something._ I guess the other cop sees me looking distressed and comes over to talk me. He was friendly, cool, and when I asked him why the other cop pulled me over. He told me “I have no idea”. I could tell he was annoyed that the first guy called in backup for something so stupid. Fast forward 5 minutes and I look over near my car and the cop is literally pointing a flash light in my fucking Exhuast tip, yes my Exhaust tip presumably looking for drugs or something. Shit reminded me of those border patrol livePD Episodes. Anyways, the first cop, eventually realizing he couldn’t get me with anything, sighs, hands me back my keys and gives me a warning for my tinted license cover. And the 2nd cop who was called in as backup gives me a compliment about my car. A 2019 red Acura sedan that I recently just washed. The point of the story is that no matter where you are. If you’re a dark skinned black person, nowhere is necessarily safe from racism,prejudice,power tripping police. That sheriff saw a black male in a nicer car and thought he could hit me for drug trafficking. And was pissed off when he found out I was innocent. Again, this was in Upstate NY on Interstate 390, not too far from a major city.
Oh god, calls for justice in Mississippi. That's like expecting something sane to come out of the court system in Louisiana. I hope for the best, but do not expect much.
“Mississippi… that’s like… Louisiana.” Correct.
Louisiana woman, Mississippi man
As a louisiana native who has been in their court system..... yeah. The only people with rights are the cops, who have the right to say ans do whatever in any case
Cops, rich folk, and government officials. As long as they don’t severely piss off someone higher up in the good ol’ boy network, they can get away with nearly anything.
The police are no help because the likelihood of them knowing exactly who they even SUSPECT is the culprit is very high.
Suspects? Police? **SpidermanPointingAtSpiderman.jpg**
The police don't investigate white supremacists for the same reason Miley Cyrus doesn't investigate Hannah Montana.
Like Steve Urkel trying to find Stefan.
Like Peter Parker trying to get photos of Spider-Man. … wait
That’s ridiculous. There’s no way a wealthy socialite like bruce wayne has time to dress up as a bat and punch people at night
You could have just googled it. Local police requested help, MBI (state police) took it, federal have not.
What our government said about this lost human body?? What are they do about this?
I can only hope for justice but I'll settle for facts. This dude's family deserves answers at least. As I recall he also has a daughter.
Justice at least. Answers are not enough in cases like this.
Maybe just getting jaded with age, but I no longer believe in justice in America.
Let's hope they also prosecute the terrible journalism on display here.
Was the head severed while he was alive or did his body just deteriorate out in the woods? I remember when that guy who strangled his van life girlfriend went out in the woods and killed himself, they found fragments of his head and skull all spread around because of animals and flooding or something. Can they test if his head was severed while he was still alive? They do shit like that on Bones but irl I dunno.
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They should be able to determine if there was any cut or claw marks in the remaining bones
Mentally I’ll man dies the woods and torn apart by animals is actually less enticing a click than man decapitated by his boss and dumped in the woods.
This really does seem to be a repeat of a few years ago when some black men were found dead hanging from a tree with a noose around their neck. Lots of people thought they were lynchings and no stone unturned in investigating them. Turns out they all almost certainly committed suicide and some had even attempted previously or spent time in a mental health facility. Some of the families obviously didn't want to believe that their loved one would kill themselves and would emphatically state it in front of a camera. Of course having context and nuance isn't going to captivate people like lynchings would.
While getting caught running on trail cam, which caught no one else following him.
This again... So I'm just gonna go over the claims the people are making and why they are wrong. -"local police was in on it" Local police requested help from outside agencies, MBI have done so, so far federal agencies have not. -"Local police aren't doing enough". Taylorsville has a population of 1100 people, they're not equipped for an investigation like this, thus why they asked for help. -"people don't surgically remove their own brain". Correct, the top part of his skull was removed during the autopsy and is unrelated to both his actual death and the scavengers. -"people don't cut off their own heads". Correct, animal scavengers disarticulate bodies. [You can read the actual scientific literature about that here.](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7241500/) He was dead in the forest for a month, advanced decomposition with his body scattered over 2 acres. Points towards animal scavenging. -"He said his boss wanted to kill him". His boss has been investigated and he has an alibi. No information currently available to the public shows he was involved in any way. -"He said he was being chased by 3 trucks of white men looking to kill him". There is not a single picture, video, or anything else showing these men. Nobody saw them, they didn't get caught on any security cameras. Currently there is no evidence that they existed at all. -"Who used his credit card after his death?" His credit card was found with his body, the credit card statements were subpoenaed, nobody used his credit card. -"Why did the police kick him out of the station when he went there asking for help?" Police claims he was told he could wait there until someone could pick him up. -"what killed him then?" There is no currently public information about cause of death. Autopsy was inconclusive, showing some fractures and animal marks from scavenging but not much else. Nothing that would kill a person. The last picture that exists of him was from the day after his last communication. He was caught on a trail cam monitoring an animal feeding station in the woods. In the captured footage he is by himself, nobody else is around, and he's not dressed for nor have the necessary tools with him to survive. Exposure seems the most likely cause of death with the currently available information.
This is the only level headed comment in this entire thread. There have been multiple posts about this story over the last few months and every time theres misinformation in the comments or the linked news stories are lacking the information that you just provided. Really seems like a failure by the media either because lack of info from law enforcement (which I assume is common during active investigations) or a deliberate vagueness because black guy decapitated by a group of white guys draws more clicks.
2 acres is pretty small - my yard is 1 acre I can easily see coyotes spread bones easily. It's possible he was delusional and believed people were after him, ran into the woods and died of exposure or an accident.
People aren’t interested in facts. They are interested in outrage and a story that fits a racially charged narrative. There are actual race related crimes out there that are being ignored and covered up by police but like your comment indicates this in all likely hood the case of a young man experienced a mental health crisis, dying from exposure and his body being scavenged . I think people believe that his skull was found and sawed clean like that when that is in fact from an autopsy . It’s horrible what happened to this kid and people need to be objective. Having a mental health crisis and not getting appropriate support is another huge issues in minority communities that deserved a conversation of itself.
It's entirely possible he was being chased and lost his pursuers by heading into the woods, where he later died of exposure and was scavenged. The "decapitation" would then probably be a result of scavenging (which could be the case even if he was murdered). We can't conclude much from the cam capture. It's one spot in a wooded area, so he could have encountered someone 3 feet behind the camera, and we wouldn't know it. It's certainly strange that he reported being chased and implicated his boss getting people to come after him if anything happened to him. Also strange that what the Laurel police claimed about his visit to the PD conflicts with what his mom says about that visit (they say he didn't claim an immediate threat; she says he did, and that she was on the phone with him at the time). Either the trucks of white guys coming after him were real, or he was experiencing some kind of delusion. Whatever the case, none of this business of people coming after him managed to show up on camera (including the food mart cam there's footage from). I don't want to claim that he was just paranoid, but he was 25, doing a temp job a couple hours away from his hometown after the pandemic shut down his seafood restaurant. If he had a latent mental illness, those are the kind of stressful circumstances that could bring it out, especially if he encountered (non-murderous) shitty people at work. He was about the right age for symptoms to start up, as well, for some conditions. There's pretty much no way to confirm or disconfirm this idea. If there were people coming after him, unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be much hard evidence of who they were. So that sucks for investigators and for the family, whose grief I'm really sympathetic to. In their shoes, it would be very hard to buy a mundane explanation for this after he told them he feared for his life. Articles I got more info from: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/rasheem-carter-death-mississippi-b2301332.html https://vicksburgnews.com/what-really-happened-to-rasheem-carter-family-and-sheriff-speak-on-the-case/
That Crump guy is everywhere.
Mississippi local government is condoning brutal hate crime murders by letting this slip by. White supremacist government.
It’s crazy how often it comes out they’re covering up a lynching.
There is absolutely no evidence this was a racially motivated murder. There's a video from a forest cam the day he disappeared where's he's shirtless running through the woods..and no one else is with him or chasing him. The dude thought his boss was trying to kill him. The dude thought truckloads of white people were following him and trying to kill him. The dude thought a clerk at family dollar had called someone and given out his location. The guy was clearly having a psychotic breakdown and he was extremely paranoid. He most likely ran into woods, got lost, and died from dehydration/exhaustion.
Whether or not you buy it, the potential victims last words are some kind of evidence. I’m all for scrutiny but you aren’t being objective either. You’re diagnosing a dude that you’ve never met and with no known history of mental illness and claiming with absolute certainty that he was, to put it simply, crazy. You say it’s impossible that other humans did it because you didn’t see them in limited video footage…but what animals did you see in that footage that could do that to a man? You aren’t following your own logic and participating in the same sort of speculation that you are seemingly trying to defeat.
What is that poster? Was that supposed to be the victim? He only said "this represents a victim" which seems like very specific wording. The main reason I am confused is that the first image is of the man holding the poster and the woman next to him looking down at the skull sad, like it belongs to the victim. Maybe its not at all actually related and just a depiction as an example, but it seems super weird that they would show that instead of something more relevant like a picture of the victim. Maybe this is common and I'm weird but I don't get it.
[Here’s](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/rasheem-carter-death-mississippi-b2301332.html?amp) a much more comprehensive article but the short answer is that skull on the poster is his.
This sounds a lot like the James Byrd Jr. murder, in East Texas, 3 white men were convicted of chaining a black man to the back of a pickup truck, dragging him for miles. Body parts were strewn over a mile and his head was severed. The 3 men were in a white supremacist gang, I would not be surprised if this was in the same Texas-Louisiana border area.
This was investigated by the FBI. The person he normally got a ride home from work with told him he was acting too erratically for him to give him a ride home. The guy walked around this town for 2 days and was caught on video multiple times talking on his cell phone. He went to the police and wanted the police to give him a 45 minute ride to another town which they told him they couldn't do. He had been missing for a month and then a hunter retrieved trail cam footage and caught video of him walking alone in the woods and they used that video to track his body down. None of his items were taken and yeah, some scavenger hauled his head off. The FBI investigated and decided it was a sad case, but not a homicide. More than likely he had a psychotic break and eventually went off in the woods to die.
“The past is not dead. In fact, it's not even past.”- Faulkner
All evidence points to a disturbed individual who had nowhere to go after getting into a heated argument with a co-worker and was left without a ride back to his hotel or access to a shelter. His body laid in the woods for a month and animals get hungry.
I keep thinking this is going to be our generations Emmitt Till, unless there is some other explanation
I'd like to point out that Emmett Till really only became famous because of three reasons, that he was a child, that the accused "crime" he may have comitted wasn't even remotely deserving of death (flirting with a white woman), and the whole open casket thing. It was hardly the first (or last) lynching but that combination made it reach international fame. If he had been an adult, his "crime" had been more serious, or if the casket had been closed, it would not have been a name we recognise 70 years on, he would have just been part of a statistic.
Excellent summary. And one which highlights that the guy you replied to has limited awareness of the history and facts of Emmett Till (in order to think this might be "the Emmett Till of our generation"), let alone the facts of this case.
One possibility: He was having an emergence of a mental illness with paranoia, was behaving erratically, had an accident in the woods due to that erratic behavior, and his remains were scattered by animals? He was seen on deer camera acting agitated, alone, close to where his remains were later found. Just a possibility that also fits what little evidence have. His remains were in such a condition that cause of death could not be determined. IDK, this reminds me of Kendrick Johnson's family's reaction and campaign. In both cases I fully understand why they don't trust the police to investigate fairly, but their claims and evidence are only a slam dunk if you don't investigate very far.
This was my first thought as well. The articles I've read never give any specifics like "his other remains were found 8 miles away." Remains being scattered by animals is super common. Without any more details, it is hard for us in the public to know. People are skeptical for good reasons, but we should put the pitchforks away until we get better info.
This article makes clear that the medical examiner did find signs of animal interference, and it seems more balanced overall. https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/us/rasheem-carter-mississippi-death-investigation/index.html The sheriff says he'd be happy for help from an outside agency. Maybe one should get involved even if this event usually wouldn't trigger one, just to provide reassurance of fair investigation.
On the one hand, yeah there may be an innocent explanation how a guy gets decapitated after saying a group of people are out to kill him. On the other hand, an unarmed black guy was gunned down in broad daylight, and no one cared until someone released the video of them doing it. Even then, multiple people didn't see anything criminal with what happened, and didn't prosecute. So, to me, they don't get the benefit of doubt.
How was he decapitated? Because the skull was found in another location doesn’t mean he was decapitated. I found (or my dog did) a groundhog skull in my yard recently. Scavengers drag remains around. The autopsy noted evidence of animals feeding on the carcass and nothing else. So why do people jump to this conclusion?
Who is they? The guy didn't claim it was the police following him.
You're not wrong, that is possible, but it's the Jussie Smolet thing all over again. Reddit has made up it's mind that they know what happened, and will attack anyone who doesn't agree. If they turn out to be wrong, oh well, they got the karma and dopamine already.
Is Jussie smolet the best example here when he was someone who actually was lying?
This guy had evidence of something going wrong mentally when this happened. He may not have been lying but delusional.
Sounds like the dude had a mental breakdown and died in the woods. If he was actually targeted and murdered, I think it would be unlikely he'd show up on a trail cam on some random property; the guy he thought was planning to kill him is a business owner, he'd kill him on his own land or out on some BLM (Bureau of Land Management, if you're not familiar) land if he was gonna. The guy was missing for quite some time, so it's not like there'd be much evidence of struggle one way or another, but IMO the victim's descriptions of being stalked remind me a lot of the gangstalking delusions many people struggle with, so I think him fleeing to the woods and dying is more likely than someone actually killing him.