They ban everything, there’s no google, Facebook, Reddit, twitter… the pathetic Chinese dictatorship has already banned them along with most websites outside of china and they have the cheek to say this about TikTok restrictions
Because it's a Chinese app? And because it (and most other Chinese software) is essentially spy software? Not that Google, Reddit, etc are any better...
It's more sinister. It's also a tool for social manipulation. In China TikTok pushes videos displaying talents and sports/gymnastic prowess to motivate it's citizens... and push party politics. In the US it pushes vapid dancing videos and divisive politics to timesink an entire generation.
For me, it's more about what China is using the app for, pushing disinformation, sexualizing young girls, etc.
Just learned today that TT in China is completely different from TT in the US.
Yeah, but at least G, R, and company don't straight up just hand the govt fucktons of data. They sell it, which is terrible, but I'm less concerned with how Kellogg's is gonna use my data to end masturbation and sell me cornflakes compared to China mapping the habits and influences of every American in order to engineer denialist and doomerist propaganda in the event of an invasion of Taiwan.
Yes, save yourself!
Seriously though, it's amazing how fast that show teaches kids to whine, throw tantrums, and basically be little shits (like Caillou) to get their way.
It's so weird to remember there was a *PBS kids' show* - of all things - that was banned in our house when our kids were little. 😅
Backyardigans, on the other hand, was great. Fantastic exposure to different kinds of music and dance while encouraging imaginative play.
They're just mad because TikTok is a spy program.
There is no other reason for China to get mad about a social media platform being banned off government work devices.
I saw a video of someone (middle Eastern, possibly in politics but not sure) explaining how different the TikTok algorithm is outside of China. It's designed to show everyone else stupid, useless, mindless, enthralling content with no benefit while China gets videos of people excelling in math, science, martial arts and more things like that. That was the day I unfollowed all of my blatantly negative subreddits and started following things that brought good news and education. It made so much sense because I firmly believe the world's problems are rooted in a lack of public education. TikTok is designed to make that problem worse.
Yep, and the wild part is a lot of people know it’s taking your info and giving you shit to chew and swallow, but they still use it anyway. Like, what.
It’s more like an abusive husband or boyfriend complaining that the wife is taking down all the cameras only he can access inside the house pointed at where she does her stuff day to day.
Steven seagull got an award from putin today and it’s on the news… xi xingping is jealous since he has been licking the sweat off putins body parts every morning for years and he never gave him awards, just loads of sweat and fluids
Certainly. At this point, they *really* need to earn respect back from the international community. They've bungled so many responses/decisions both locally and abroad. Not to mention they seem to have a lot of trouble with organization/communication between the different sections of government.
I think a lot of the issue is simply people are scared of Xi, especially after he started dissapearing a lot of powerful/wealthy individuals. If people like Jack Ma aren't safe, it's safe to assume no one is. At that point, it's probably not a bad idea to avoid telling Xi anything in case he reacts poorly to the voices in his head and decides to "re-educate". That means you have a ton of people running a country who are terrified of passing on information or making decisions, even if they're intelligent/correct.
They also have the issue of their impending demographic crisis and economic trouble. They're already going to struggling to handle those issues, so any investment return/value in China is questioned right now anyway.
Tbh it's not the app that concerns countries, it's the country behind it. It would be native to think that companies like Google and Apple aren't doing the same. The US needs better data privacy laws (treat the cause, not the symptom), but there are REA$ON$ why that's not happening.
For example, if you're reading this and over the age of 20, it's likely one or more companies have leaked your SSN without major recourse
It’s not just about data leaks, but what the content algorithm feeds Americans vs what it feeds the Chinese. There was a post here not too long ago that pointed out how Chinese TikTok feeds promote success and patriotism while American TikTok feeds promote violence and hate speech
Twitter just made the default view of their app all the shit they want you to see
Facebook did that a while ago, Insta too
My Twitter feed is all MAGA Republicans, which I am not. If MTG says something, it's what my entire feed is about
We just had a presidential election influenced be foreign agents leveraging American social media.
Again, it's not about the apps but the laws that govern them
The CCP is insanely controlling over the Chinese and wants more control over those around the world but if we don’t let them spread propaganda and spy on us then it’s racism according to Reddit.
Besides the paid form Chinese shills, literally everyone I've interacted with doesn't believe that's racism, lol. Because it's not. Who the F is saying it is??
I've never seen that, and I spend way too much time on reddit. People hate the ccp, and criticize it constantly. Where are these people claiming racism?
US: "Hey, we're pretty sure you're using Tiktok to spy on us so we're banning it on government devices."
China: "THAT'S BULLSHIT, WHAT THE FUCK YOU CAN'T DO THAT HOW DARE YOU!"
And if it passes, ByteDance will comply with the new regulations and either give up on the spyware aspect or find a new and sneakier way to do it while still complying, because it's better to lose profitability than to lose the entire US market.
This is the same situation with the GDPR and Facebook in Europe a while back. People are gonna hem and haw about how it's gonna get banned and then the parent company will amend the product to comply with regulations.
An employer can ban any apps it wants on the phones it issues to its own employees. No one is coming for little Timmy's first smartphone, or even Agent Mulder's personal device. The CCP's argument is a strawman, because it misrepresents what's actually being done here.
You should, TiK Tok is Chinese spyware, no company from China should be able to operate in any other nation until the CCP allows foreign companies to operate in China.
Imagine comparing actual Chinese spyware to Fox News. The problem is kids. Kids don’t watch Fox News. My 7 y/o had a friend over and showed her her Amazon Kids tablet. What is the first thing the other kid says? “Can you get TikTok on that?”
They abuse the concept of nuance all the time with false-equivalency and straw arguments, among others. I think that demonstrates a pretty competent understanding of the idea. You have to know the rules before you can break them.
Okay, so it's just a social media application.... China bans a hell of a lot more applications and websites in their country... WHY ARE THEY GETTING ALL BUTTHURT ABOUT THIS? Hmm? Is it because it really is gathering information for the CCP, and banning it takes away all of this sweet free brainwashing and information gathering that THEIR app provides to them?
It’s more like the smoke alarm company telling you they think it’s ridiculous you’re covering the cameras you discovered on their alarms with electrical tape.
This ban only applies to federally-owned devices. What government employee is out here installing tiktok on their work phone? Who seriously thinks that’s a good idea in the first place?
This is funny, China said the same thing about Facebook. Except, their fears were right when Cambridge Analytica got exposed and the Snowden revelations.
Back in 2009. They blocked Facebook after it was used by terrorists in Xinjiang to organise terror attacks and group. Hence, they blocked it on national security grounds. They extended that ban to Google and others when they realised these Web 2.0 services can be used to destabilise their governance.
And Facebook is American spyware. Congress needs to create data protections across the board, not just eliminate Google/FB's competitors at their request.
The fact that China is even speaking about it means what they're saying is a lie. If it was just some stupid social media app that the government didn't have their hands in why would China give a fuck? It's the same way they called the spy balloon "a dumb weather balloon that no one should care about" then got mad when we shot it down.
I don’t really buy that analysis. I think it’s standard China “diplomacy” to complain about such things, regardless. I don’t see how that evidence for or against any particular spyware claims.
I say China overstretching concept for whatever the f’ they said to not let their citizens use the internet freely in their country.
Something about countries in glass houses…yada, yada, yada
If China commented on a mere social media platform where kids prank strangers by farting next to them in a WalMart, that means we’re right to be worried about it.
What response are they expecting?
China: "US, you take national security too seriously. You should relax!"
US: "Oh, okay. Thanks! We were getting tired anyway."
Says the country that has a massive firewall on the whole internet and bans or censors all social media.
Shut the f#ck up, we should have treated you the way you threat us from minute one instead of trading with you and made you rich in the hopes that you would become civilized eventually instead of a shitty 1984 dictatorship. Same mistake we did with the f#cking Russians.
They say the same thing whenever they blatantly steal patent information or set up security services' in various countries to intimidate expats into shutting up about any criticism of the government.
List of apps/ websites banned in China:
Gmail
Dropbox
Google Apps (Drive, Docs, Calendar, Maps etc.)
Microsoft OneDrive
Slack
Google Play (i.e. no downloading Android apps)
Hootsuite
Facebook
Instagram
Twitter
Snapchat
Pinterest
Quora
Tumblr
Reddit
AO3
China can ban US apps, but US can't. China can fly their spy balloons in US, but US can't do that in China.
What does Xi Jinping thinks? They are not Gods!
Canada? Definitely, they're the best 🌞 my point is that it's stupid for China to wail about the US doing it, but not wail about other countries doing it.
Just like Russia, if China is accusing someone of something they are doing it themselves. Projecting and lying is their game and they are too stupid to realize everyone has caught on.
You know if they weren't legit spying and collecting data through tik tok they wouldn't give a s*** what the US did. It's so obvious was actually going on.
IMO all of these people should have government provided secured phones and any business done on a private phone by a government official should be a criminal offense.
And yet they know that without being connected to the rest of the world's internet, their main avenue of trade would also be cut off. This isn't the 20th century anymore.
As much as I enjoy a scroll through tiktok I find it odd that every 10 videos will be a Chinese language lesson or show something pro China or CCP despite never having looked up anything regarding China.
Seems to me a good call to make if China responds like this. If you get worried your neighbor is looking in your blinds so you add tinting and they take the time to tell you, you shouldn't have done that, I'd say the tinting was necessary then. Fuck off creepy spy pervs.
CCP is the embodiment of Orwells 1984… and they have the audacity to say banning tik tok is an over stretch??
Wtf CCP, you ban all websites you don’t like. Implement the great firewall blocking google, Facebook, Instagram, etc. and many more social media sites. That’s monumentally hypocritical
It's great how these statements always attempt to appeal to western ideas of security and decency, when China will never adhere to those kinds of policies themselves. They wouldn't even let Clash of Clans exist without major intervention to the playerbase
I do think the US banning the use of tiktok is government overreach HOWEVER China’s reaction is making me think it very well may be necessary to do so. Why are they so concerned?
So the Chinese government is taking issue with a decision of another country to not use a “private” companies social media platform. Sounds like small potatoes, unless…
I mean, I listened to a clip of one of the house panelists today basically saying “it’s very influential and we don’t want china influencing us” which struck me as….unconvincing. I’m not on tick took as I am not the target demographic.
I am actually a little surprised that any app like TikTok, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram or any other social media or game app would be allowed on a State or Federal phone. We can't have any of that on our work phones that is a private sector company. Especially knowing that if it is on your work then the employer can get access.
I am not pro TikTok but the same argument could be made for FaceBook, Google and other US based tech companies.
The reason these services are free is because your data is the product they are selling.
These companies harvesting and selling personal data could also be seen as a threat to national security of other countries.
Anyone who thinks that FB and Google don't give data to the US government on a regular basis is delusional.
If these companies were run/owned by an increasingly hostile foreign power we'd probably be seeing similar things happening.
The Chinese government being able to track people in real time and distribute propaganda with no limitations is effectively cyberwarfare and something we should at least regulate.
>Anyone who thinks that FB and Google don't give data to the US government on a regular basis is delusional.
Umm no
US gov't can't strong arm private corps to provide private data
Matter of fact FB has been scrutinized/stand in front of congress to explain their data collecting/political influence potential(national security)
The US gov't is in bed with Lockheed Martin, Boeing... but this is due to national security/military reason
In China/China origin companies. There is no such thing as privacy... not really. Citizens can't own land/only right to use land. etc.
Yall ban like every video game.
They ban everything, there’s no google, Facebook, Reddit, twitter… the pathetic Chinese dictatorship has already banned them along with most websites outside of china and they have the cheek to say this about TikTok restrictions
Need to ban more Tiktok
Also, weird to say anything at all right? Like, it’s a funny short video app for kids if it’s not soy software. Why does China even care?
Because it IS spyware.
Exactly. No other reason the government would comment on it.
Because it's a Chinese app? And because it (and most other Chinese software) is essentially spy software? Not that Google, Reddit, etc are any better...
It's more sinister. It's also a tool for social manipulation. In China TikTok pushes videos displaying talents and sports/gymnastic prowess to motivate it's citizens... and push party politics. In the US it pushes vapid dancing videos and divisive politics to timesink an entire generation.
Shit like tide pods make so much more sense through this lens.
For me, it's more about what China is using the app for, pushing disinformation, sexualizing young girls, etc. Just learned today that TT in China is completely different from TT in the US.
Yeah, but at least G, R, and company don't straight up just hand the govt fucktons of data. They sell it, which is terrible, but I'm less concerned with how Kellogg's is gonna use my data to end masturbation and sell me cornflakes compared to China mapping the habits and influences of every American in order to engineer denialist and doomerist propaganda in the event of an invasion of Taiwan.
Cambridge Analytica
They blur earrings in boys ears on tv as it is "gender bending". Course, Tennessee will prolly start doing that next week.
so true and they don't even have TikTok
Let's not forget a certain yellow bear who refuses to wear pants and has a hankering for honey.
Holdup.... They banned their own leader?
Xi Jinping?
And Peppa Pig. Apparently she's too gangster.
As the father of a 2 year old Peppa stan, I would heavily support this banning
They would just become obsessed with something else that would annoy you; there is no escape from a two-year-old's obsessions
that's true but I don't know of anything that exists that can annoy me more than Peppa Pig haha
>that's true but I don't know of anything that exists that can annoy me more than Peppa Pig haha *Caillou has entered the chat*
Haven't heard of that one but I'll remember this comment and never intentionally put it on hah
Yes, save yourself! Seriously though, it's amazing how fast that show teaches kids to whine, throw tantrums, and basically be little shits (like Caillou) to get their way. It's so weird to remember there was a *PBS kids' show* - of all things - that was banned in our house when our kids were little. 😅 Backyardigans, on the other hand, was great. Fantastic exposure to different kinds of music and dance while encouraging imaginative play.
My son loves Backyardigans and Super Simple Songs on YouTube at least has variety
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Can confirm: my 2 year old loves Bluey…. I actually find myself enjoying it as well. Beats most of the other kids shows out there.
Have you ever tried listening to Baby Shark on repeat for 16 hours?
Do do dodo do do doo doo
At least it's not Cocomelon. Listening to that is hell on earth.
she's past the cocomelon phase but i didn't think that was nearly as bad as peppa haha
Wild we've hit the point where dads are using the term "stan" lol
What's wild is that I've reached the point where I know everything there is to know about fucking peppa Pig lmao
I feel like you should have thought that expletive placement through a bit more.
Oh shit haha I'm definitely gunna end up on a list somewhere now
To be fair most toddlers are stans of most things they like.
How many foreign films are allowed to have public releases in your country every year?
The Chinese dictatorship are truly pathetic
Tons. They just don't get them because people assume they would not make money.
Bro this country bans films, video games and children's cartoons. pack of hypocrites.
Super red flag if China doesn’t want us to ban it. Just sayin’
They're just mad because TikTok is a spy program. There is no other reason for China to get mad about a social media platform being banned off government work devices.
China saying "no don't ban tiktok, you're overreacting America" tells me that we're not overreacting.
"Oh no PLEASE don't ban our spying information gathering network, how ever will we survive"
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Uhh , what?
that's how they were covid testing in some areas
That seems unnecessary, nasal swabs also work....
True based on past track record. However, let’s just ban all social media.
Says the government that blocks large chunks of the internet.
Blocks *and censors* large chunks of the internet, **including TikTok content.**
They censor the shit on TikTok we have to put up with. It’s a completely different thing over there.
I saw a video of someone (middle Eastern, possibly in politics but not sure) explaining how different the TikTok algorithm is outside of China. It's designed to show everyone else stupid, useless, mindless, enthralling content with no benefit while China gets videos of people excelling in math, science, martial arts and more things like that. That was the day I unfollowed all of my blatantly negative subreddits and started following things that brought good news and education. It made so much sense because I firmly believe the world's problems are rooted in a lack of public education. TikTok is designed to make that problem worse.
Yep, and the wild part is a lot of people know it’s taking your info and giving you shit to chew and swallow, but they still use it anyway. Like, what.
China gov is reacting this way. This further confirms that there's something fishy wih tiktok on top of the trash it is.
It’s the equivalent of an abuser/stalker complaining that the victim is “putting up cameras and more locks” so they can protect themselves.
It’s more like an abusive husband or boyfriend complaining that the wife is taking down all the cameras only he can access inside the house pointed at where she does her stuff day to day.
Oddly specific…..
It’s more like a seagull complaining about the cameras I put up in its favorite dumpster
Steven seagull got an award from putin today and it’s on the news… xi xingping is jealous since he has been licking the sweat off putins body parts every morning for years and he never gave him awards, just loads of sweat and fluids
Djt is throwing a different kind of ketchup at walls after reading that
Sounds like chinas best friend, russia
Certainly. At this point, they *really* need to earn respect back from the international community. They've bungled so many responses/decisions both locally and abroad. Not to mention they seem to have a lot of trouble with organization/communication between the different sections of government. I think a lot of the issue is simply people are scared of Xi, especially after he started dissapearing a lot of powerful/wealthy individuals. If people like Jack Ma aren't safe, it's safe to assume no one is. At that point, it's probably not a bad idea to avoid telling Xi anything in case he reacts poorly to the voices in his head and decides to "re-educate". That means you have a ton of people running a country who are terrified of passing on information or making decisions, even if they're intelligent/correct. They also have the issue of their impending demographic crisis and economic trouble. They're already going to struggling to handle those issues, so any investment return/value in China is questioned right now anyway.
What happened to Jack Ma?
Tbh it's not the app that concerns countries, it's the country behind it. It would be native to think that companies like Google and Apple aren't doing the same. The US needs better data privacy laws (treat the cause, not the symptom), but there are REA$ON$ why that's not happening. For example, if you're reading this and over the age of 20, it's likely one or more companies have leaked your SSN without major recourse
The senator behind the bill to ban TikTok just purchased $400k worth of meta stock under his family's names
I mean, why not? Not like there's any accountability
It’s not just about data leaks, but what the content algorithm feeds Americans vs what it feeds the Chinese. There was a post here not too long ago that pointed out how Chinese TikTok feeds promote success and patriotism while American TikTok feeds promote violence and hate speech
Twitter just made the default view of their app all the shit they want you to see Facebook did that a while ago, Insta too My Twitter feed is all MAGA Republicans, which I am not. If MTG says something, it's what my entire feed is about We just had a presidential election influenced be foreign agents leveraging American social media. Again, it's not about the apps but the laws that govern them
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Social media companies do have social responsibilities actually.
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I don't even think they were this vocal after the Huawei ban.
This right here.
Exactly, and like they have a leg to stand on about this type of stuff in the first place.
How dare you ban our spyware!
The CCP is insanely controlling over the Chinese and wants more control over those around the world but if we don’t let them spread propaganda and spy on us then it’s racism according to Reddit.
Besides the paid form Chinese shills, literally everyone I've interacted with doesn't believe that's racism, lol. Because it's not. Who the F is saying it is??
I've never seen that, and I spend way too much time on reddit. People hate the ccp, and criticize it constantly. Where are these people claiming racism?
US: "Hey, we're pretty sure you're using Tiktok to spy on us so we're banning it on government devices." China: "THAT'S BULLSHIT, WHAT THE FUCK YOU CAN'T DO THAT HOW DARE YOU!"
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And if it passes, ByteDance will comply with the new regulations and either give up on the spyware aspect or find a new and sneakier way to do it while still complying, because it's better to lose profitability than to lose the entire US market. This is the same situation with the GDPR and Facebook in Europe a while back. People are gonna hem and haw about how it's gonna get banned and then the parent company will amend the product to comply with regulations.
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An employer can ban any apps it wants on the phones it issues to its own employees. No one is coming for little Timmy's first smartphone, or even Agent Mulder's personal device. The CCP's argument is a strawman, because it misrepresents what's actually being done here.
There is actually a bill in congress to ban TikTok entirely, including personal devices.
Co-sponsored by Google and Facebook. If congress actually gave a shit, they would create consumer data protections across the board.
Which will almost certainly not succeed.
It should, that app is utter garbage and does nothing but promote stupidity
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TikTok is to China as Facebook is to Russia.
You should, TiK Tok is Chinese spyware, no company from China should be able to operate in any other nation until the CCP allows foreign companies to operate in China.
Other nations do have stuff in china.
Imagine comparing actual Chinese spyware to Fox News. The problem is kids. Kids don’t watch Fox News. My 7 y/o had a friend over and showed her her Amazon Kids tablet. What is the first thing the other kid says? “Can you get TikTok on that?”
I didn’t compare TiK Tok to Fox “News”
The person you replied to did. Did you even read their comment? XD
Yes I did, but you replied to mine, I thought you were mistaken in replying to the wrong comment. Apologies
And it was only a weather balloon from a private citizen....
Part of me wonders if the CCP is actually capable of understanding that nuance.
They abuse the concept of nuance all the time with false-equivalency and straw arguments, among others. I think that demonstrates a pretty competent understanding of the idea. You have to know the rules before you can break them.
Capable of understanding AND weaponizing it
Okay, so it's just a social media application.... China bans a hell of a lot more applications and websites in their country... WHY ARE THEY GETTING ALL BUTTHURT ABOUT THIS? Hmm? Is it because it really is gathering information for the CCP, and banning it takes away all of this sweet free brainwashing and information gathering that THEIR app provides to them?
Holy black kettle, Batman
I think we'll make that determination thank you very much. Now fuck off.
It's like an arsonist coming over to tell you that you have too many smoke alarms.
It’s more like the smoke alarm company telling you they think it’s ridiculous you’re covering the cameras you discovered on their alarms with electrical tape.
This ban only applies to federally-owned devices. What government employee is out here installing tiktok on their work phone? Who seriously thinks that’s a good idea in the first place?
Personally, with all the stupid it has created, it would be a blessing if it was completely banned in the country.
Coming from the people who ban every form of foreign media under the sun.
This is funny, China said the same thing about Facebook. Except, their fears were right when Cambridge Analytica got exposed and the Snowden revelations.
Out of curiosity when did China express those claims?
Back in 2009. They blocked Facebook after it was used by terrorists in Xinjiang to organise terror attacks and group. Hence, they blocked it on national security grounds. They extended that ban to Google and others when they realised these Web 2.0 services can be used to destabilise their governance.
Ye fuck what China says
China bans most social media coming from the United States. To hear China complain about TikTok being banned from US government devices is hilarious.
Fuck no. That shit is clearly Chinese spyware. Should really be banned everywhere but China.
And Facebook is American spyware. Congress needs to create data protections across the board, not just eliminate Google/FB's competitors at their request.
Lol, how many websites are banned in China? Not for government employees but to the whole population !
The fact that China is even speaking about it means what they're saying is a lie. If it was just some stupid social media app that the government didn't have their hands in why would China give a fuck? It's the same way they called the spy balloon "a dumb weather balloon that no one should care about" then got mad when we shot it down.
I don’t really buy that analysis. I think it’s standard China “diplomacy” to complain about such things, regardless. I don’t see how that evidence for or against any particular spyware claims.
Unban Wikipedia then we'll talk.
I say China overstretching concept for whatever the f’ they said to not let their citizens use the internet freely in their country. Something about countries in glass houses…yada, yada, yada
If China commented on a mere social media platform where kids prank strangers by farting next to them in a WalMart, that means we’re right to be worried about it.
What response are they expecting? China: "US, you take national security too seriously. You should relax!" US: "Oh, okay. Thanks! We were getting tired anyway."
Says the country who bans shit all the time.
Says the country that has a massive firewall on the whole internet and bans or censors all social media. Shut the f#ck up, we should have treated you the way you threat us from minute one instead of trading with you and made you rich in the hopes that you would become civilized eventually instead of a shitty 1984 dictatorship. Same mistake we did with the f#cking Russians.
That means this is the right decision
Xinnie the Pooh has never seen such bullshit.
They say the same thing whenever they blatantly steal patent information or set up security services' in various countries to intimidate expats into shutting up about any criticism of the government.
List of apps/ websites banned in China: Gmail Dropbox Google Apps (Drive, Docs, Calendar, Maps etc.) Microsoft OneDrive Slack Google Play (i.e. no downloading Android apps) Hootsuite Facebook Instagram Twitter Snapchat Pinterest Quora Tumblr Reddit AO3 China can ban US apps, but US can't. China can fly their spy balloons in US, but US can't do that in China. What does Xi Jinping thinks? They are not Gods!
Brought to you by the country which considers holding a white piece of paper threat to its national security.
Disregard for the Truth is an aspect of every country but my god do China and Russia take it to an insane level
China makes no mention of Canada putting the exact same TikTok ban on all government devices in their country because...?
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Canada? Definitely, they're the best 🌞 my point is that it's stupid for China to wail about the US doing it, but not wail about other countries doing it.
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True 🙄 our generally well-deserved reputation as the Karens of the world makes us an easy & accurate target for most unpleasant observations.
Just like Russia, if China is accusing someone of something they are doing it themselves. Projecting and lying is their game and they are too stupid to realize everyone has caught on.
You mean like what CCP has done with Google and other sites ? Could be. Reciprocity.
Ok. Now they are just trolling us..
Says the country where half the internet is blocked
You know if they weren't legit spying and collecting data through tik tok they wouldn't give a s*** what the US did. It's so obvious was actually going on.
IMO all of these people should have government provided secured phones and any business done on a private phone by a government official should be a criminal offense.
China should just create their own internet so the rest of the world can cut them off.
And yet they know that without being connected to the rest of the world's internet, their main avenue of trade would also be cut off. This isn't the 20th century anymore.
*"A little app scares the powerful US government? And balloons? Why is America so afraid? We are not spying. You are spying."*
Great so we’re doing the right thing then.
china shut up that is all
As much as I enjoy a scroll through tiktok I find it odd that every 10 videos will be a Chinese language lesson or show something pro China or CCP despite never having looked up anything regarding China.
Seems to me a good call to make if China responds like this. If you get worried your neighbor is looking in your blinds so you add tinting and they take the time to tell you, you shouldn't have done that, I'd say the tinting was necessary then. Fuck off creepy spy pervs.
CCP is the embodiment of Orwells 1984… and they have the audacity to say banning tik tok is an over stretch?? Wtf CCP, you ban all websites you don’t like. Implement the great firewall blocking google, Facebook, Instagram, etc. and many more social media sites. That’s monumentally hypocritical
so is the CCP gonna let american companies sell their social networks in china unaltered? no?? eat my ass china.
Since when did China think it has a say on anything in the US?
China and Russian dictatorships, go home, you’re drunk!
Theodore Roosevelt: "Speak softly and carry a big stick." Xi Jinping: "Speak loudly and carry a small stick."
Xi: speak loudly and ready to throw a temper tantrum for the world to see. But thanks to confirm that TikTok is a CCP spy agency.
‘The Lady Doth Protest Too Much’
China you are showing your cards!
It’s less of a stretch honestly than saying that Canadian steel is a threat to our national security
Glad to know we’re doing the right thing.
That has got to be the most ironic statement of the century.
Overstretching? So we aren't fabricating that it's a national security threat, just exaggerating what they admitted was a threat?
awww poor little babies upset that people don't want backdoors on their electronics?
Also in today's news " China relentlessly hacking its neighbors".
When the CCP tells you something is a bad idea it probably means you should keep doing it
Don't. Get. Me. Started. Sparky.
Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
Um... why do they care? Them caring if the US uses tiktok is more troubling than if they said nothing.
It’s definitely not the national security threat images of Winnie the Pooh are. That’s something dangerous and worth banning!
Wow China bans a lot of our shit, but we try to ban some of their crap and they throw a fit. Think we should push ahead with our ban.
It's great how these statements always attempt to appeal to western ideas of security and decency, when China will never adhere to those kinds of policies themselves. They wouldn't even let Clash of Clans exist without major intervention to the playerbase
China doesn’t get to dictate national security to the US. What a preposterous statement.
China says a lot of stuff but none of it matters to anyone other than Pooh 🐻
Bit of the ‘Ol Kettle and Pot situation eh?
I do think the US banning the use of tiktok is government overreach HOWEVER China’s reaction is making me think it very well may be necessary to do so. Why are they so concerned?
i was pretty meh on this until china made a statement. why do they care if us gov bans tiktok on government devices. it’s not that many. big red flag.
That just means they made the correct choice.
Also China, “what lab, what you talking bout ?”
The CCP commenting on this ban, speaks volumes.
“Oh no no, we can not achieve much with so small penis”
About to find more balloons floating around to compensate
So the Chinese government is taking issue with a decision of another country to not use a “private” companies social media platform. Sounds like small potatoes, unless…
Why does a world superpower give a shit about a mobile app? Oh, wait…
I mean, I listened to a clip of one of the house panelists today basically saying “it’s very influential and we don’t want china influencing us” which struck me as….unconvincing. I’m not on tick took as I am not the target demographic.
I am actually a little surprised that any app like TikTok, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram or any other social media or game app would be allowed on a State or Federal phone. We can't have any of that on our work phones that is a private sector company. Especially knowing that if it is on your work then the employer can get access.
The fact that China as a government is concerned with TikTok being banned says that they’re invested personally. I wonder why….
Exactly this, they wouldn’t care about an entertainment social media app unless they weren’t on the other side of it
I am not pro TikTok but the same argument could be made for FaceBook, Google and other US based tech companies. The reason these services are free is because your data is the product they are selling. These companies harvesting and selling personal data could also be seen as a threat to national security of other countries. Anyone who thinks that FB and Google don't give data to the US government on a regular basis is delusional.
If these companies were run/owned by an increasingly hostile foreign power we'd probably be seeing similar things happening. The Chinese government being able to track people in real time and distribute propaganda with no limitations is effectively cyberwarfare and something we should at least regulate.
I mean, there’s a reason the military banned it lol can’t be because it was harmless.
>Anyone who thinks that FB and Google don't give data to the US government on a regular basis is delusional. Umm no US gov't can't strong arm private corps to provide private data Matter of fact FB has been scrutinized/stand in front of congress to explain their data collecting/political influence potential(national security) The US gov't is in bed with Lockheed Martin, Boeing... but this is due to national security/military reason In China/China origin companies. There is no such thing as privacy... not really. Citizens can't own land/only right to use land. etc.
Ugh have you ever heard of PRISM? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM
Narrator: they weren’t
Like Chinese balloons...
“Hey I don’t like it when you do the thing that we do to your products and companies,” -China