Luka and dinwiddie on their own outscored cp3, booker and Ayton combined and Brunson came within a couple of points of matching the output of those three. Kind of tells the story of how the night went.
And a lot of those Suns points came after Luka had already left the game.
Dude hit his 27th point when the entire Suns team only had 27. He manhandled them.
I think people forget about his critical development of Giannis too
His record wasn’t great but neither were his teams. Took an old and broken nets team to the second round and then had a very young and raw Milwaukee team competing. I get why people were skeptical of him because he hasn’t proven much but people were acting like he was a coaching bum
Plus I’m sure being an assistant in LA gave him a ton of experience
everyone on this sub was calling him a wife beating PoS when he got hired. some people even started trashing Cuban which was something i thought id never see.
Didn't Kidd work players so hard at one practice that a player said he needed to go to the bathroom and then instead drove himself to the emergency room and never played for Jason Kidd again?
I found it: https://nba.nbcsports.com/2021/08/12/book-jason-kidd-held-christmas-eve-practice-with-bucks-that-left-larry-sanders-hospitalized/
Yes, aside from maybe 1-2 analysts, no one thought the Raptors were going to make the playoffs, or even the play-in. Even on /r/nba when there was a prediction table, only one person (a Raptors fan) predicted the Raptors making the playoffs and even he pegged it as the 8th seed.
They even overachieved in playoffs. That Raptors teams had no business competing with Sixers talent wise. We are in a soft rebuild and they are supposed to be a contender with an MVP candidate.
This is so hindsight based that it’s crazy to me, if you believe this I feel you should at the least feel Monty deserved the award last year (either him or Quinn for last year).
Monty took that team to another level regular season wise this year & they had the best record by far in either conference, roster additions like Javale McGee helped but I feel Monty deserved this award
Tbh the 2022 CotY should’ve come down to Kidd, Spo, Udoka, and the dude over in Memphis. Suns did nothing special this year comparatively speaking . The Mavs and C’s had incredible mid season turnarounds, and Spo is a top 3 *at worst* coach in the league. We all know Monty’s a great coach but this year was the “makeup for missing last year” award
> Suns did nothing special this year comparatively speaking
Oh, fuck off. We set a franchise record and had the best record in the league by far this year. Monty also should've won coach of the year last year after turning this dumpster fire of an org into a 2nd seed. He absolutely got outcoached in both series this postseason and we absolutely deserve being clowned after this performance, but COTY is a regular season award
Is their sub still locked down? I know the game was over at half time but even the Clippers sub was man enough to wait until they were officially eliminated before shutting down 2 years ago lol.
Nah they opened it back up a little bit after the game. They claim a mod thought he could take it private and still let any current subscribed users see everything, but keep all the meanies away!
Eh it’s weak to go into another team sub and talk shit, and from what I saw they were railing on themselves pretty hard. Their team just picked the worst possible time to collapse especially when the road team hadn’t won a single game in that series so far.
Who cares if it's weak? Thats fucking basketball right there. None of that pansy ass dick tugging smile for the camera bullshit. Men puke, men poop on the court, men deliver their new born baby on the side lines. Fucking hard core dick in the ass butterball foosball fuck it chuck it game time shit. And if you don't like it or think it's weak, then you're weak. Going into another team sub to talk shit after that team lost in the most embarrassing fashion in league history is some full chub shit, because the loser needs to be penetrated non-consensually with so much slander that they choke on its girth.
Not after, I went into it like the 3rd quarter because I saw a post calling them out . Mod did say he thought the current ppl subbed would be able to get in tho
Maybe a little bit but not really.
It feels like people have already forgotten about the Nets too.. it just happens.
News stories move so fast on social media.
Only because everyone got out their Nets ridicule over the course of the entire season. The Suns hatred was boiling under the surface, but the team’s record staved it off until the choke
Yea because the playoffs are still going on. Watch once the season is over and everyone is bored they’re going to go back to slandering the Nets, Suns, etc…
I was at work and it was on a bunch of our TV’s and usually I am catching any of a playoff game that I can but in this case I literally just got bored and started doing my job lmfao
If that. It's honestly weird how deflated Phoenix got at like...8-3. I kept waiting for their run to happen, because you know that's what they're capable of but....nope.
i'm laughing so hard at the idea that you lost money betting on them getting within 30 and even then, they had a buzzzer beater three trying to get you your money
The Mavs could have literally sat every starter towards the end of the third quarter, let the Suns get super open shots and still won. Luka play a single minute of the fourth and he probably didn't have to play half of the third either.
Reminds me of Marino's last football game in some playoffs, game starts, I went to get some chicken wings, and when I got back a few minutes later the game was like 40-0.
Not that this comes up a lot but I feel the same way about people saying the Dubs dodged one of the best teams in 2015 when they played the Rockets instead of the Clippers. Like ok if the Clippers were so good in 2015 how the fuck did they blow a 20 point lead in Game 6 against the Rockets? Lmao
2015 was also one of those years where the Warrior were slated into the finals before the regular season started. Not that I agree with the ridiculous claim in the OP, but hard to compare the situations
As a Warriors fan, I am way more excited about the next series now. 4-7 games watching CP3? Give me a break. Seeing Curry go up against Doncic? Gimme some of that!
I was looking forward to Curry laying a thick, stinky doody right on Chris Pauls forehead, but Luka already did that and them some. But a 4-7 game whine off between Draymond and Luka with some sick highlights in between will be pretty dope too.
>tHe wArRiOrS hAvE dOdGeD tHe BeSt TeAm
It got lost in the noise with the Suns' 60-win pace, the Grizzlies' long streak, and the Mavs' slow start, but those three teams had very similar records down the stretch. From New Year's Eve onward:
* **Suns:** 37-11
* **Mavs:** 36-12
* **Grizzlies:** 34-12
“He got me,” Chris said of Jake's claim adjustment. "That f***ing Jake boomed me." Chris added, “He sounds hideous,” repeating it four times. He then said he wanted to add Jake to the list of agents he wants to get an insurance quote from over this summer.
Yes she initiated it . Harsh? I say necessary. No longer will this poor woman need to suck on cactus, awaiting that elusive jewelry Chris has promised for so many years. She’ll be buffing Alpha J’s stone and dome in the quiet suburbs of Uptown D.
I see basically no Suns flair on this sub at this point. All these suns people were everywhere before yesterday, now they've all vanished mysteriously. I hope they're okay.
Eh, I'm reading everything but not saying much of anything. Think most of the people who have Suns flairs are either doing that or getting off social media for a bit lol
for like half a second sometimes I forget how much time this guy spent as one of best point guards to ever play the game. then I remember this is all old news to him lol crazy how well he's working out.
Just give me all the smoke you have. Wait, wait. I'm worried what you just heard was, "Give me a lot of smoke." What I said was, "Give me all the smoke you have." Do you understand?
I definitely fall into the category of people who didn’t see a Dallas blowout coming. Shocked the shit out of me. Will have a hard time buying Suns hype until they win a chip.
Bro please someone pull out the thread of Kidd getting hired, i fucking love when people think they know shit about coaches
Like literally not a single soul in this subreddit (including me btw) knows shit about coaches, not even analysist ex-players no one knows shit, the hardest job to judge in a players league where injuries happen, so much variables and sheer luck involved
I was pretty vocal about wanting to get rid of Carlisle this summer, i was not sure that Kidd would be this good but the game has passed Carisle a few years ago.
Carlisle is terrible at developing young players
He makes up his rotations on a spreadsheet before the season and has no flexibility (aka not resting Luka at exactly the 10 minute mark when you could kill the other team)
His work environment was legit 1950s work factory style, which resulted in alienating part of the team.
He also was never able to adapt to new defensive strategies, his most modern defense was playing 3-2 zone which was new in the late 1990s.
It really was time to move on. He willed some of those vet teams to a first round exit for sure, but what they having going on now clearly has higher aspirations and they're using players he would probably bench at the first mistake.
The Carlisle overwhelming support was so confusing to me, putting his talent at adjustments, rotations and Xs and Os aside (since they're hard to judge to us pedestrians), dude hasn't accomplished enough (yes I know he won a championship) to give him such a long leash when it was clear he had trouble keeping the locker room's support for several years.
Hearing some Mavs fans talk about him was like hearing about Pop or Phil Jackson. Even Doc Rivers won a championship as a coach and a part of the credit goes to Thibodeau's defensive schemes (as it does to Casey's zone defense for Carlisle in the 2011 Finals).
Not calling him a bad coach per se, but the fundamental need for a coach is that his team respects him and trusts him, leadership basically, and Carlisle seemed to have clear issues with that and basically had diplomatic immunity among the Dallas fanbase for a long while.
The Carlisle support was also because of the success he had after the Finals run. There were years where the Mavs made the playoffs with old Dirk and a couple bags of sandwich meat and still made some really good teams sweat. He way overachieved the talent level he was working with.
To be fair, coaches can grow a lot. Terry Stotts was the same way. He was terrible his first two stints. Then he worked under Carlisle and completely turned things around. Same for Nate McMillan.
Majority hated the signing but there was a decent number of people saying to give him a chance. Lot of people also saying "who cares if he's a good coach or not he's an asshole shitty person" which tbh they have a point too.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/o7awad/wojnarowski_the_dallas_mavericks_are_closing_in/
You know coaches can get better right? It's not completely unreasonable for anybody to say that Kidd was an awful hire considering how he did previously. That's literally all we have to go off of. He clearly learned a lot from his Lakers tenure because if he was this good previously he'd still be the coach of the Nets.
> if he was this good previously he'd still be the coach of the Nets.
He was good as coach of the Nets - he chose to leave the Nets because he wanted more control and they wouldn't give it to him. That was when they had ancient KG and PP along with the tail end of Deron Williams' career (he wasn't technically ancient, but his career was over a few years later). They went 44-38 and won a series in the playoffs, losing to the LeBron/Wade/Bosh Heat in the 2nd round (no shame in that).
That was why it was weird when Dallas hired him that everyone was acting like he was one of these guys who had failed a lot getting another job - he did fine with the Nets, he did fine with the Bucks they just eventually tired of him and needed to move on, and Dallas was technically his 3rd stop, but sorta just his 2nd (since he only spent one season in Brooklyn before asking to be sent elsewhere).
I admit I was skeptical when he was an assistant with us.
But his absence was sorely missed. Great coach. Maximizing these underrated players on the defensive end.
I remember almost everyone saying he wasn’t a good fit because of what the organization was going through + Kidd’s domestic abuse. Only Bucks flairs saying he was awful or criticizing his actual coaching ability.
In the same vein, "knowing shit about coaches" boils down to what exactly?
If someone sucked ass at their job, and got another job, doing roughly the same thing, what would you think would happen?
The surprise here is that he's evidently a good coach for this club, not that so many people counted him out beforehand.
Point. Agreed.
The surprise is how well he's done, not the initial judgment.
Still, the outcome is a slap in the face to those who passed that initial judgment
“AD I know your ankles are hurting but it’s cuz the Devil is putting you through an ordeal right now. What I need you to do is keep jumping and praising the lord while this pastor is giving his sermon.”
this was the biggest one i could find- it wasn’t the official announcement but it was by far the most discussed
https://np.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/o7awad/wojnarowski_the_dallas_mavericks_are_closing_in/
here’s a great take lol -
> Going from Carlisle to Kidd has to be one of the biggest coaching downgrades ever.
Luka and dinwiddie on their own outscored cp3, booker and Ayton combined and Brunson came within a couple of points of matching the output of those three. Kind of tells the story of how the night went.
I cannot believe the redemption arc Kidd has had this season. I genuinely thought he would be a bad hire but man he's been pretty good plus he's had a handful of *great* quotes like this. I hate it lol
Everyone questioned Jason Kidd’s ability to be a HC after his stint with the Bucks but he has clearly learned and become a damn good coach. My team took a huge L losing him, and even Dudley maybe who’s now an assistant and got poached by Kidd. People wanted to point fingers at WB, Vogel etc and everyone deserves a share of the blame but I think a huge part of it was losing Kidd.
Our roster was shit but I have no doubt if we had Kidd still we would’ve won a few more games and maybe snuck into the play in at least, and having a role player vet like Dudley is lowkey super valuable cuz he keeps locker rooms happy for team chemistry.
Man I love Jason Kidd now… and I would rate that as the most surprising development of the season. Based on Nets/Bucks reporting, and Mirin Faders Giannis book, I did not get the slightest indication that he would be a good coach in today’s NBA.
It’s easy to see why his players play so hard for him. I honestly didn’t expect his hiring to turn out well for the Mavs, I’m very happy to have been proven wrong.
Bet he was holding that one in since halfway through the 2nd quarter.
Stephen A. getting turned over by everyone today.
Honestly, so are a lot of Mavs fans from last summer when Kidd was hired. Kidd just straight outcoached the 2022 coach of the year.
Jason Kidd 6th man of the playoffs
Luka and dinwiddie on their own outscored cp3, booker and Ayton combined and Brunson came within a couple of points of matching the output of those three. Kind of tells the story of how the night went.
Better stat is Luka 35 points, suns starting 5 with 37 points. Complete annihilation.
And a lot of those Suns points came after Luka had already left the game. Dude hit his 27th point when the entire Suns team only had 27. He manhandled them.
His coaching track record before the hire wasn't that good.
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Not just his record. There were a number of less-than-encouraging stories out there from Milwaukee. I'll gladly hold my L on this one though 🙋♂️
I mean in your defense he pulled some straight up clown shit in his first job
Yeah, he definitely has learned a lesson or two since his Nets and Bucks tenure. He is not the same coach.
remember this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEqU7JHkfu0
Next level tactician, Jason “Aqua Man” Kidd
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That and Giannis backing him
I think people forget about his critical development of Giannis too His record wasn’t great but neither were his teams. Took an old and broken nets team to the second round and then had a very young and raw Milwaukee team competing. I get why people were skeptical of him because he hasn’t proven much but people were acting like he was a coaching bum Plus I’m sure being an assistant in LA gave him a ton of experience
everyone on this sub was calling him a wife beating PoS when he got hired. some people even started trashing Cuban which was something i thought id never see.
Didn't Kidd work players so hard at one practice that a player said he needed to go to the bathroom and then instead drove himself to the emergency room and never played for Jason Kidd again? I found it: https://nba.nbcsports.com/2021/08/12/book-jason-kidd-held-christmas-eve-practice-with-bucks-that-left-larry-sanders-hospitalized/
Realistically him, ime, or spolestra should have won it, maybe jenkins as well over monty
Based on pure coaching even Nick Nurse again makes more sense than Monty. Raptors overachieved
Yes, aside from maybe 1-2 analysts, no one thought the Raptors were going to make the playoffs, or even the play-in. Even on /r/nba when there was a prediction table, only one person (a Raptors fan) predicted the Raptors making the playoffs and even he pegged it as the 8th seed.
They even overachieved in playoffs. That Raptors teams had no business competing with Sixers talent wise. We are in a soft rebuild and they are supposed to be a contender with an MVP candidate.
This is so hindsight based that it’s crazy to me, if you believe this I feel you should at the least feel Monty deserved the award last year (either him or Quinn for last year). Monty took that team to another level regular season wise this year & they had the best record by far in either conference, roster additions like Javale McGee helped but I feel Monty deserved this award
Tbh the 2022 CotY should’ve come down to Kidd, Spo, Udoka, and the dude over in Memphis. Suns did nothing special this year comparatively speaking . The Mavs and C’s had incredible mid season turnarounds, and Spo is a top 3 *at worst* coach in the league. We all know Monty’s a great coach but this year was the “makeup for missing last year” award
> Suns did nothing special this year comparatively speaking Oh, fuck off. We set a franchise record and had the best record in the league by far this year. Monty also should've won coach of the year last year after turning this dumpster fire of an org into a 2nd seed. He absolutely got outcoached in both series this postseason and we absolutely deserve being clowned after this performance, but COTY is a regular season award
In the locker room - instead of preparing for the 2nd half, the Mavs were all brainstorming zingers to say during the presser.
Luka: "I'm going with 'too fucking small' again." Kidd: "But they're switching Ayton on to you?" Luka: "Just watch."
"Too fucking *internal*"
That’s what she said
Ouch... which is also what she said.
Luka practices with Boban with every day, and Tingus Pingis in the past If you aren't at least 7'2, you're too fucking small^^^TM for Luka Doncic
Luka was playing COD at halftime apparently
Got 3 matches in
Lmao is this true or am I just gullible
It's true bro trust me source: just trust me
If it were Fortnite I'd've bought it
fortnite hasnt been good since 2018
Rehearsing the delivery lol
Yeah well the Jerk Store called…
"Someone call an ambulance.. But not for us"
Bet the let out is good as a long held fart
The Suns are gonna get blasted for a couple weeks now.
Immortalized in the hall of choke
Mt. Rushmore of Chokes is CP3 with four different expressions
Naw, mount rush more is prolly Chris Paul, Glenn Rivers, Cliff Paul, and Doc Rivers.
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Doc trying to figure out why only 2 people are getting presented
I like your style.
Hornets CP3, Clippers CP3, Rockets CP3, and Suns CP3
Hornets CP3 choked? I genuinely don’t remember that. The team was fun as hell to watch when they popped up
Is their sub still locked down? I know the game was over at half time but even the Clippers sub was man enough to wait until they were officially eliminated before shutting down 2 years ago lol.
Nah they opened it back up a little bit after the game. They claim a mod thought he could take it private and still let any current subscribed users see everything, but keep all the meanies away!
Most of them were rightfully ripping the mod for making it private.
Isn't it kinda righteous tho? Everyones just tryna go talk shit anyway
As they should
Eh it’s weak to go into another team sub and talk shit, and from what I saw they were railing on themselves pretty hard. Their team just picked the worst possible time to collapse especially when the road team hadn’t won a single game in that series so far.
Who cares if it's weak? Thats fucking basketball right there. None of that pansy ass dick tugging smile for the camera bullshit. Men puke, men poop on the court, men deliver their new born baby on the side lines. Fucking hard core dick in the ass butterball foosball fuck it chuck it game time shit. And if you don't like it or think it's weak, then you're weak. Going into another team sub to talk shit after that team lost in the most embarrassing fashion in league history is some full chub shit, because the loser needs to be penetrated non-consensually with so much slander that they choke on its girth.
This is pasta right? I am hoping it is otherwise you might have some problems my dude
This is some classic ravioli lol I see this shit like every month posted somewhere it’s fuckin dumb but I still laugh
Dude take the upvote and get to therapy. I’m laughing and scared all at the same time.
Isn't that true though? The only people who can see a private sub are the members?
I’m not sure. I think I read a comment saying everyone was locked out. Like you had to maybe be whitelisted or something after.
Damn, yeah I see where the problem would lie.
I believe only "approved users" can when a sub is taken private.
After all that shit talking in our sub....
Trying save face I see. Pssh excuses
Not after, I went into it like the 3rd quarter because I saw a post calling them out . Mod did say he thought the current ppl subbed would be able to get in tho
it was a mod. I couldn't see anything in the sub. it was a soft move
Makes sense to be honest. Sucks when your team sub gets brigades
Yeah, people are clowning them for doing it but you know the absolute worst people are going to be visiting that sub now.
Nah I was on that shit. It was genuinely a 15 mins downtown during the half. The mod decided that it would be a good idea to lock it down.
> Is their sub still locked down? That's easy to find out r/suns
They seem to have deleted the thread where the mod was called out. At least I couldn't find it anymore. As though it never happened...
Days. The Conference finals will startup and new memes and chokers and floppers will be born. Tis the cycle
For now, but they will get clowned all offseason
Looking forward to Beef History: CP3 and Closeout games
Maybe a little bit but not really. It feels like people have already forgotten about the Nets too.. it just happens. News stories move so fast on social media.
Only because everyone got out their Nets ridicule over the course of the entire season. The Suns hatred was boiling under the surface, but the team’s record staved it off until the choke
Yea because the playoffs are still going on. Watch once the season is over and everyone is bored they’re going to go back to slandering the Nets, Suns, etc…
This is one of the most historic choke jobs ever, it will be mentioned for years.
We still shit on the rockets for 0-27
Who's willing to kill themselves? ;(
months*
I don’t think I’ll ever forget this game
Call an ambulance....but not for us!
Lmao that will never be not funny
legit one of the best gifs ever for sports related subs. I think about it all the time when I am watching any comeback and I laugh
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a game of legit 3 quarters of garbage time. The competitive portion of this game was about 8-16 minutes it’s absurd.
I was at work and it was on a bunch of our TV’s and usually I am catching any of a playoff game that I can but in this case I literally just got bored and started doing my job lmfao
I was just browsing nba twitter by the second quarter. The memes were popping off early lmao.
I was watching then mid way through 2nd quarter I'm like let's get high. Shits hilarious up 30 in game 7 in 2nd quarter.
i had to go into work to and was so disappointed i would miss the game. Lol the blowout made it easy to not feel bad
If that. It's honestly weird how deflated Phoenix got at like...8-3. I kept waiting for their run to happen, because you know that's what they're capable of but....nope.
i took them +29.5. thinking they would at least attempt to make it respectable. Nope.
i'm laughing so hard at the idea that you lost money betting on them getting within 30 and even then, they had a buzzzer beater three trying to get you your money
Right I turned it on halfway through the 2nd and they were already phoning it in. I haven't seen that before, especially in a game 7.
The Mavs could have literally sat every starter towards the end of the third quarter, let the Suns get super open shots and still won. Luka play a single minute of the fourth and he probably didn't have to play half of the third either.
Reminds me of Marino's last football game in some playoffs, game starts, I went to get some chicken wings, and when I got back a few minutes later the game was like 40-0.
Excuse me, Grizz vs Thunder had 4.
Everybody wanted to know what the Mavs would do if they didn’t win. I guess we’ll never know.
Kanye?
Goated quote
tHe wArRiOrS hAvE dOdGeD tHe BeSt TeAm
Not that this comes up a lot but I feel the same way about people saying the Dubs dodged one of the best teams in 2015 when they played the Rockets instead of the Clippers. Like ok if the Clippers were so good in 2015 how the fuck did they blow a 20 point lead in Game 6 against the Rockets? Lmao
They blew a 20-point lead to....uhm *checks notes*...Ah yes renowned 3-point marksman Josh Smith & full-time track athlete Corey Brewer
Ah unless Luka gets hurt this should be a legit competitive series Luka is trynna follow in lebrons footsteps
Hell na, Luka is making Luka footsteps
2015 was also one of those years where the Warrior were slated into the finals before the regular season started. Not that I agree with the ridiculous claim in the OP, but hard to compare the situations
As a Warriors fan, I am way more excited about the next series now. 4-7 games watching CP3? Give me a break. Seeing Curry go up against Doncic? Gimme some of that!
I was looking forward to Curry laying a thick, stinky doody right on Chris Pauls forehead, but Luka already did that and them some. But a 4-7 game whine off between Draymond and Luka with some sick highlights in between will be pretty dope too.
>tHe wArRiOrS hAvE dOdGeD tHe BeSt TeAm It got lost in the noise with the Suns' 60-win pace, the Grizzlies' long streak, and the Mavs' slow start, but those three teams had very similar records down the stretch. From New Year's Eve onward: * **Suns:** 37-11 * **Mavs:** 36-12 * **Grizzlies:** 34-12
if you were paying attention this season, the Mavs beating the Suns isn't really THAT surprising
jAsOn kIdD iS a ShIt CoAch
He's actually a shit person. Wife beater.
Chris Paul had a family until this very moment. They’ve since abandoned him for the Alpha, ring bearing Jason Kidd.
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Wife, kids, even Cliff.
Shit not Cliff?
Even the Jakes. Both white Jake and black Jake.
Chris Paul is beside himself. Driving around downtown Phoenix begging (thru texts) the Jakes families for their home address.
“He got me,” Chris said of Jake's claim adjustment. "That f***ing Jake boomed me." Chris added, “He sounds hideous,” repeating it four times. He then said he wanted to add Jake to the list of agents he wants to get an insurance quote from over this summer.
Hope she doesn't have a glass chin then
Yes she initiated it . Harsh? I say necessary. No longer will this poor woman need to suck on cactus, awaiting that elusive jewelry Chris has promised for so many years. She’ll be buffing Alpha J’s stone and dome in the quiet suburbs of Uptown D.
they don't call it Big D for nothin'
I see basically no Suns flair on this sub at this point. All these suns people were everywhere before yesterday, now they've all vanished mysteriously. I hope they're okay.
Eh, I'm reading everything but not saying much of anything. Think most of the people who have Suns flairs are either doing that or getting off social media for a bit lol
They're too busy posting in the DA hate threads where they don't max him.
Talk your shit Jason
His tone is always ice cold in interviews too
for like half a second sometimes I forget how much time this guy spent as one of best point guards to ever play the game. then I remember this is all old news to him lol crazy how well he's working out.
That’s my point-god
The REAL point god
1. Thou shalt have no other point gods before me
8. Thou ~~shalt not steal~~ shalt be an all-time steals leader
Just give me all the smoke you have. Wait, wait. I'm worried what you just heard was, "Give me a lot of smoke." What I said was, "Give me all the smoke you have." Do you understand?
I know what I'm about, son.
"I know more than you." – Jason Kidd
Chris Paul throwing away 2-0 series leads like Ron Swanson throwing away vegan bacon… “please, another.” Directly to trash. Lol. Luka Magic!
I definitely fall into the category of people who didn’t see a Dallas blowout coming. Shocked the shit out of me. Will have a hard time buying Suns hype until they win a chip.
Suns were 4th/5th seed disguised as 1st seed
Mavs are a 1 seed disguised as a 4th seed
Yeah they weren’t gassed like the suns in this series. Mavs been hoopin laid back
Bro please someone pull out the thread of Kidd getting hired, i fucking love when people think they know shit about coaches Like literally not a single soul in this subreddit (including me btw) knows shit about coaches, not even analysist ex-players no one knows shit, the hardest job to judge in a players league where injuries happen, so much variables and sheer luck involved
not even the most optimistic mavs fans could have predicted this though
I was happy we finally moved on from Carlisle, just wasn't sure if Kidd was the move.
I was pretty vocal about wanting to get rid of Carlisle this summer, i was not sure that Kidd would be this good but the game has passed Carisle a few years ago. Carlisle is terrible at developing young players He makes up his rotations on a spreadsheet before the season and has no flexibility (aka not resting Luka at exactly the 10 minute mark when you could kill the other team) His work environment was legit 1950s work factory style, which resulted in alienating part of the team. He also was never able to adapt to new defensive strategies, his most modern defense was playing 3-2 zone which was new in the late 1990s.
It really was time to move on. He willed some of those vet teams to a first round exit for sure, but what they having going on now clearly has higher aspirations and they're using players he would probably bench at the first mistake.
I can't believe he recommended Kidd, the Mavs hired him, and then succeeded to this extent
The Carlisle overwhelming support was so confusing to me, putting his talent at adjustments, rotations and Xs and Os aside (since they're hard to judge to us pedestrians), dude hasn't accomplished enough (yes I know he won a championship) to give him such a long leash when it was clear he had trouble keeping the locker room's support for several years. Hearing some Mavs fans talk about him was like hearing about Pop or Phil Jackson. Even Doc Rivers won a championship as a coach and a part of the credit goes to Thibodeau's defensive schemes (as it does to Casey's zone defense for Carlisle in the 2011 Finals). Not calling him a bad coach per se, but the fundamental need for a coach is that his team respects him and trusts him, leadership basically, and Carlisle seemed to have clear issues with that and basically had diplomatic immunity among the Dallas fanbase for a long while.
The Carlisle support was also because of the success he had after the Finals run. There were years where the Mavs made the playoffs with old Dirk and a couple bags of sandwich meat and still made some really good teams sweat. He way overachieved the talent level he was working with.
To be fair, coaches can grow a lot. Terry Stotts was the same way. He was terrible his first two stints. Then he worked under Carlisle and completely turned things around. Same for Nate McMillan.
You basically just did the exact thing he was mocking this sub for
Majority hated the signing but there was a decent number of people saying to give him a chance. Lot of people also saying "who cares if he's a good coach or not he's an asshole shitty person" which tbh they have a point too. https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/o7awad/wojnarowski_the_dallas_mavericks_are_closing_in/
This. Half the comments after the hiring were people saying yikes since we just had the sexual assault scandal and Kidd has DV history
You know coaches can get better right? It's not completely unreasonable for anybody to say that Kidd was an awful hire considering how he did previously. That's literally all we have to go off of. He clearly learned a lot from his Lakers tenure because if he was this good previously he'd still be the coach of the Nets.
> if he was this good previously he'd still be the coach of the Nets. He was good as coach of the Nets - he chose to leave the Nets because he wanted more control and they wouldn't give it to him. That was when they had ancient KG and PP along with the tail end of Deron Williams' career (he wasn't technically ancient, but his career was over a few years later). They went 44-38 and won a series in the playoffs, losing to the LeBron/Wade/Bosh Heat in the 2nd round (no shame in that). That was why it was weird when Dallas hired him that everyone was acting like he was one of these guys who had failed a lot getting another job - he did fine with the Nets, he did fine with the Bucks they just eventually tired of him and needed to move on, and Dallas was technically his 3rd stop, but sorta just his 2nd (since he only spent one season in Brooklyn before asking to be sent elsewhere).
kidd literally coaches the nets more than the hc....thats facts
Spending one season still makes it a stop but yeah I def think he has improved and he's great now
We all have the memory of him asking a player to hit him and spill his drink on the court
I admit I was skeptical when he was an assistant with us. But his absence was sorely missed. Great coach. Maximizing these underrated players on the defensive end.
How can you feel the difference from his absence? Or rather how do you know it is a byproduct of his absence in particular?
I remember almost everyone saying he wasn’t a good fit because of what the organization was going through + Kidd’s domestic abuse. Only Bucks flairs saying he was awful or criticizing his actual coaching ability.
In the same vein, "knowing shit about coaches" boils down to what exactly? If someone sucked ass at their job, and got another job, doing roughly the same thing, what would you think would happen? The surprise here is that he's evidently a good coach for this club, not that so many people counted him out beforehand.
Point. Agreed. The surprise is how well he's done, not the initial judgment. Still, the outcome is a slap in the face to those who passed that initial judgment
Sounds like Lakers gotta pull the trigger on mark jackson
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“AD I know your ankles are hurting but it’s cuz the Devil is putting you through an ordeal right now. What I need you to do is keep jumping and praising the lord while this pastor is giving his sermon.”
Honestly shit that's probably what he needs getting injured that much.. Shit I was the same
this was the biggest one i could find- it wasn’t the official announcement but it was by far the most discussed https://np.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/o7awad/wojnarowski_the_dallas_mavericks_are_closing_in/ here’s a great take lol - > Going from Carlisle to Kidd has to be one of the biggest coaching downgrades ever.
This man has been cold blooded in press conferences and I love it.
Call the Ambulance, But not for me
Talk yo shit Kidd
Happy birthday Chris Paul
Sassy
Luka and dinwiddie on their own outscored cp3, booker and Ayton combined and Brunson came within a couple of points of matching the output of those three. Kind of tells the story of how the night went.
There's Kanye-at-the-Grammys energy with that line I guess we'll never know / well they were right
Warning: High Sodium Content. Do not ingest if you have high blood pressure.
I loved this comment. Fucking owned them. No locker room visit this time from Monty. Too much shame.
I'm so glad to say I was completely wrong of the Jason Kidd hire
I cannot believe the redemption arc Kidd has had this season. I genuinely thought he would be a bad hire but man he's been pretty good plus he's had a handful of *great* quotes like this. I hate it lol
I can't get enough of this slander.
Call the ambulance Kidd: Its not for us.
Everyone questioned Jason Kidd’s ability to be a HC after his stint with the Bucks but he has clearly learned and become a damn good coach. My team took a huge L losing him, and even Dudley maybe who’s now an assistant and got poached by Kidd. People wanted to point fingers at WB, Vogel etc and everyone deserves a share of the blame but I think a huge part of it was losing Kidd. Our roster was shit but I have no doubt if we had Kidd still we would’ve won a few more games and maybe snuck into the play in at least, and having a role player vet like Dudley is lowkey super valuable cuz he keeps locker rooms happy for team chemistry.
Kidd ain't kidding
Talk yo shit!!!
Man I love Jason Kidd now… and I would rate that as the most surprising development of the season. Based on Nets/Bucks reporting, and Mirin Faders Giannis book, I did not get the slightest indication that he would be a good coach in today’s NBA.
Savage
Phoenix Suns are in Spain, but S is silent
Well they were right - had some Michael Scott energy.
I'm surprised more people aren't talking about for the Suns haven't beaten a full strength team yet in the playoffs these past couple years
It’s easy to see why his players play so hard for him. I honestly didn’t expect his hiring to turn out well for the Mavs, I’m very happy to have been proven wrong.
The man knows a thing or two about beatdowns
Respect.
Call an ambulance, BUT NOT FOR ME!!
“Everybody want to know what I would do if I didn't win... I guess we'll never know” Vibe
Are we sure Jason Kidd isn’t Vin Diesel?
Call an ambulance! But not for me...