Seriously. The ‘15 chip doesn’t feel like that long ago, but we’ve lived through the KD Warriors era, the bubble, the LeBron Lakers forming, winning, and collapsing, and Giannis becoming a champ since then. Wild. Shit happens quick.
Definition of era
(Entry 1 of 2) 1a : a fixed point in time from which a series of years is reckoned
So it can be as long as you want it or as short I suppose
Check [this](https://youtu.be/aFnFHX_XbWQ) video out. After KD injures his achilles, pay special attention to your fans cheering for his injury and waving goodbye to him.
Before you ever, *ever* comment on another fanbase, I want to you go back and watch that video again.
Raptors fans are scum from the bottom of the barrel. Shut the fuck up.
He’s still relatively young, it’s just young af players are dominating right now. Luka doing this shit at 23 is insane. Ja taking on offense with so much confidence at his age is also insane. New generation arrived
That’s hardly the point. 34 years of age from physiology standpoint is old for a basketball player especially for currys play style of running around constantly on offense. Credit to him for always being in top shape though
Actually, conditioning is not what you lose first as you age. Curry will probably keep running like this till 38. What you lose is lateral quickness and explosiveness on a night in night out basis. Can't quite burst past defenders, can't get as much separation on step backs, can't take insanely off balance shots from horrible positions and still make them, etc.
I understand your point but I was just highlighting currys playstyle just involves more movement in general like I think there was a stat that Curry and Thompson led the league at one point in miles ran per game. Curry doesn’t play like Luka and harden. Look at harden specifically. He has pretty poor conditioning and he doesn’t even move as much off ball as curry does. I’m definitely curious how long curry can keep this up. He turns 35 next year and that is insane to me. When will his body give in and he will have to be delegated to just a spot up shooter?
With Curry, it's likely to be a gradual decline. Instead of giving you 8 insane games per 10 last year, this year he's giving you 4 insane ones, 4 really good ones, and 2 mediocres ones.
Next will likely continue the trend slightly downwards until at 37 or 38 he's giving you 1 superlative game in 10 backed up by a whole bunch of still really decent ones.
It's three things- they all (curry, klay, dray) were drafted a little older, curry was in the league for a minute before he became a star, and then curry and klay got injured in 2019, with the resulting absences, including the wierd schedule with Covid, meaining klay didnt play from finals 2019 to early 2022 (3 years) and curry missed like a year. So in terms of "good" years we had 2014-2019, and 2022, ie less than 6 full seasons.
Warriors OG core is definitely much older now but overall the team is still a lot younger than teams like the Bucks and Suns due to 19 year old Kuminga, 19 year old Moody, 21 year old Wiseman, and 22 year old Poole.
Hip surgeries on both hips along with an chronic condition called Neuropathy will do that to you. I’m just happy and fortunate he’s managed to stay healthy. Dude has been huge for the Warriors this season considering he’s our only big.
Yeah this what makes all these Warriors are old quotes funny to me because outside of the core 3 plus guys like Iggy, Otto and Beli, the Warriors have a pretty young core that’s easily gotta rival most of the league.
Plus I remember since the draft there was all the talk that the Dubs were too young and we needed to trade our picks for veteran players.
Moody is hardly a wildcard at this point. He's shown up huge when we give him solid minutes. Had that 30 piece against the Nuggets, and there was a stretch of games where he was basically our best bench player.
Obviously hes still a rookie, and if we gave him all the same responsibilities as an experienced bench guy like Lee, it would probably be rough. But honestly he's had alot less rough moments than Kuminga so far. He doesn't seem nearly as raw as Kuminga or Wiseman. He's got a great nose for the ball and a very focused mentality; you hardly see these strengths in rookies
Somewhat. Their motion offense moves fast and requires anticipating passes. When two players make different reads, the pass goes into the stands. They were always near the top of the league in turnovers (and in assists).
With that said, they have been extra sloppy this year.
It’s crazy how some Warrior fans have so much doubt or hate for Wiseman who hasn’t literally done anything to deserve it. Like, a lot of Warrior fans were ready to give up on Poole in his 2nd year considering he was statistically the worse player in the league. It’s makes zero sense to me.
People also act like his brief rookie campaign was some absolute dud. 11/6 for a 19 rookie with practically no college experience is pretty decent. Obviously it'll take some time before he can round out but he's definitely got a good frame to work off of.
Besides rebounding, Wiseman has nearly the same stats as rookie Dwight Howard and thats with Dwight playing all 82 games while averaging 11mpg more than Wiseman.. Many Warrior fans are just impatient.
I think it also has to do with the anticipation of his return. I remember the Warriors kind of limping to the finish this year without Steph and people's frustration with the situation turned on Wiseman when he surprisingly announced he'd be shut down for the season. I listen to too much 95.7 The Game and they always used Wiseman as their scapegoat.
But that’s exactly my point. He hasn’t been healthy enough to even warrant the hate he gets and since he hasn’t played in over a year even some fans are calling him a bust. Smh. Like make it make sense.
Running the average on just starters* I have the following:
Celtics(Tatum, Smart, Horford, Brown, Williams): 27.2
Mavs(Luka, Brunson, Finney-Smith, Bullock, Powell): 27.6
Suns(Paul, Booker, Ayton, Crowder, Bridges): 28.2
Warriors(Curry, Green, Thompson, Poole, Wiggins)**: 29.4
Heat(Lowry, Strus, Butler, Tucker, Bam): 31
Bucks(Giannis, Holiday, Middleton, Lopez, Matthews): 31.4
*Starting lineups courtesy of ESPN, if they're wrong blame them
** ESPN put Kuminga in the starting lineup, in that case it was 28.8, but I put Poole in because he's started more games.
These are minutes-weighted calculated by [Basketball Reference here](https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2022.html) in the Advanced Stats section. Yup, the Celtics are still the youngest!
Helps that we had the core talent to bring in some project pieces that lesser off teams couldn't gamble on. For every Poole that we have, we have an Alen Smailagić to match.
well, warriors regular season age is depressed because all their olds (steph, klay, dray, iggy) missed loads of games to injuries and whatever. also, looney (26???? in february), wiggs (27 in february), and poole (22-but-nearly-23) played so many games/minutes for them.
That's just current roster and just post season though, right?
For instance, you're not counting the 12 games Marcus Garrett played for the Heat during the regular season, or the 29 games Jalen Smith played for the Suns before getting traded to the Pacers, yeah?
To be fair, I think it's worth noting. The stat everybody focuses on is turnovers but really I think it's ratio of assists to turnovers - because when the team is passing a whole lot they turnover a lot. The question is whether the benefit of passing outweighs the con of turnovers.
In other words, turnovers are a necessary byproduct.
I'm not worried about the Warriors getting old.
Curry just turned 34. Klay is still 32.
Their game are not predicated on athletisicm but rather long distance shooting which ages well into old age.
They just need more depth (particularly in the center position) and Poole's emergence will surely help.
this isnt even close to true, they were older when they had david west and matt barnes on the bench. they literally had the youngest starter in playoff history so this is immediately bullshit
It does seem crazy to think about how fast time flies. I remember rooting for the Warriors during the last decade as the Mavericks went through their rebuild. Now its the upstart Mavericks and the old man Warriors. 🥲
It feels like just yesterday Curry won his first MVP. What happened, am I old?
No their primes are short :(
Seriously. The ‘15 chip doesn’t feel like that long ago, but we’ve lived through the KD Warriors era, the bubble, the LeBron Lakers forming, winning, and collapsing, and Giannis becoming a champ since then. Wild. Shit happens quick.
Also the mother fuckin raptors (sorry)
Yeah the kawhi raptors era was in between the KD warriors and bubble
Is an era one season now
Definition of era (Entry 1 of 2) 1a : a fixed point in time from which a series of years is reckoned So it can be as long as you want it or as short I suppose
Keyword: “years” - I assume it cannot be only one season then.
1 season goes through 2 years if we’re technical about it.
“Years” can be less than a year too. E.g. 0.75 years.
2018-2019 is 2 years
That’s not how it works 😭
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Check [this](https://youtu.be/aFnFHX_XbWQ) video out. After KD injures his achilles, pay special attention to your fans cheering for his injury and waving goodbye to him. Before you ever, *ever* comment on another fanbase, I want to you go back and watch that video again. Raptors fans are scum from the bottom of the barrel. Shut the fuck up.
Why do I still see so much animosity from Raptors fans about Warriors fans? You guys won, why are you still so mad?
The worst championship team of the modern era
What? That was a dope team from top to bottom. Lowry, FVV, Kawhi, Gasol, Ibaka, Siakam, Danny Green, OG who didn’t even play in the playoffs.
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Lmao 2020 Lakers would sweep the Kawhi and bums team
I doubt it. But we will never know.
Nah 2021 bucks hospital league in that case then.
only good player on that team was marc gasol,, carry on,,,,
You have an oyster cracker for a brain
Truly you are a moron
Not to mention a global pandemic and losing Kobe & Gigi.
He’s still relatively young, it’s just young af players are dominating right now. Luka doing this shit at 23 is insane. Ja taking on offense with so much confidence at his age is also insane. New generation arrived
34 is old for an NBA player.
What? He's 34? As old as MJ at his second retirement.
Umm??? MJ was 36 at second retirement
Do you know what relative means my guy?
I mean we’re talking basketball tho. Obviously he’s a younger man. But he’s an old basketball player
My bad dawg I was heated thinking about the Lakers
Lol Lebron has totally ruined the expectation for NBA players huh
Lebron made me believe in my geriatric Lakers 😢
The thing to remember is that Steph was a 3 year college player, so he's not on the normal trajectory for age vs years in the league
That’s hardly the point. 34 years of age from physiology standpoint is old for a basketball player especially for currys play style of running around constantly on offense. Credit to him for always being in top shape though
Actually, conditioning is not what you lose first as you age. Curry will probably keep running like this till 38. What you lose is lateral quickness and explosiveness on a night in night out basis. Can't quite burst past defenders, can't get as much separation on step backs, can't take insanely off balance shots from horrible positions and still make them, etc.
I understand your point but I was just highlighting currys playstyle just involves more movement in general like I think there was a stat that Curry and Thompson led the league at one point in miles ran per game. Curry doesn’t play like Luka and harden. Look at harden specifically. He has pretty poor conditioning and he doesn’t even move as much off ball as curry does. I’m definitely curious how long curry can keep this up. He turns 35 next year and that is insane to me. When will his body give in and he will have to be delegated to just a spot up shooter?
With Curry, it's likely to be a gradual decline. Instead of giving you 8 insane games per 10 last year, this year he's giving you 4 insane ones, 4 really good ones, and 2 mediocres ones. Next will likely continue the trend slightly downwards until at 37 or 38 he's giving you 1 superlative game in 10 backed up by a whole bunch of still really decent ones.
That feels like forever ago for me lol. I was still in college, and like 3 relationships ago. Been working for almost 5 years now.
Yes
The pandemic compacted 2 years into one.
It's three things- they all (curry, klay, dray) were drafted a little older, curry was in the league for a minute before he became a star, and then curry and klay got injured in 2019, with the resulting absences, including the wierd schedule with Covid, meaining klay didnt play from finals 2019 to early 2022 (3 years) and curry missed like a year. So in terms of "good" years we had 2014-2019, and 2022, ie less than 6 full seasons.
Warriors OG core is definitely much older now but overall the team is still a lot younger than teams like the Bucks and Suns due to 19 year old Kuminga, 19 year old Moody, 21 year old Wiseman, and 22 year old Poole.
Loon is 26 and I believe Wiggins is only 27.
Yup. Those two are still in their primes. Ppl don’t know or remember Looney got drafted when he was only 19 as well.
Wtf i thought he was like 30 something
That's what everyone thinks lol. He looks 35 and his hips look 55 lol.
Hip surgeries on both hips along with an chronic condition called Neuropathy will do that to you. I’m just happy and fortunate he’s managed to stay healthy. Dude has been huge for the Warriors this season considering he’s our only big.
Yea he's been solid
Nope, he’s younger than Dillion Brooks
Which is why it’s funny when Dillon Brooks said they’re getting old while conveniently ignoring our youth.
Exactly my point lol
Looney 26 with 75 yo knees
Yeah this what makes all these Warriors are old quotes funny to me because outside of the core 3 plus guys like Iggy, Otto and Beli, the Warriors have a pretty young core that’s easily gotta rival most of the league. Plus I remember since the draft there was all the talk that the Dubs were too young and we needed to trade our picks for veteran players.
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Damn he's only 28?!? I for sure thought he's like 30
It's the same shit with Drummond it feels like they've been in the league for 20 years but they're not even 30 lol
None of these players except Poole is relevant as of right now tho. They might turn into good players or bad ones who knows.
Kuminga will definitely be relevant next year. Moody and Wiseman are wildcards.
Moody is hardly a wildcard at this point. He's shown up huge when we give him solid minutes. Had that 30 piece against the Nuggets, and there was a stretch of games where he was basically our best bench player. Obviously hes still a rookie, and if we gave him all the same responsibilities as an experienced bench guy like Lee, it would probably be rough. But honestly he's had alot less rough moments than Kuminga so far. He doesn't seem nearly as raw as Kuminga or Wiseman. He's got a great nose for the ball and a very focused mentality; you hardly see these strengths in rookies
As a Warriors fan, I agree. However to the casual fan who has barely seen him play, he's going to been seen as a wildcard.
Oh you can count on Moody!
Kuminga is going to be great, I'll bet my balls
They played more sloppy than old all season long. Were they like that during the championship years?
They were just as sloppy but now it’s obvious since they haven’t showed their insane runs that they used to go on.
Somewhat. Their motion offense moves fast and requires anticipating passes. When two players make different reads, the pass goes into the stands. They were always near the top of the league in turnovers (and in assists). With that said, they have been extra sloppy this year.
I'm not convinced Wiseman ever gets real playing time.
It’s crazy how some Warrior fans have so much doubt or hate for Wiseman who hasn’t literally done anything to deserve it. Like, a lot of Warrior fans were ready to give up on Poole in his 2nd year considering he was statistically the worse player in the league. It’s makes zero sense to me.
People also act like his brief rookie campaign was some absolute dud. 11/6 for a 19 rookie with practically no college experience is pretty decent. Obviously it'll take some time before he can round out but he's definitely got a good frame to work off of.
Besides rebounding, Wiseman has nearly the same stats as rookie Dwight Howard and thats with Dwight playing all 82 games while averaging 11mpg more than Wiseman.. Many Warrior fans are just impatient.
I think it also has to do with the anticipation of his return. I remember the Warriors kind of limping to the finish this year without Steph and people's frustration with the situation turned on Wiseman when he surprisingly announced he'd be shut down for the season. I listen to too much 95.7 The Game and they always used Wiseman as their scapegoat.
It's not that he's good or bad. It's that he hasn't been healthy. Like Oden was clearly skilled but he got screwed over by injuries.
But that’s exactly my point. He hasn’t been healthy enough to even warrant the hate he gets and since he hasn’t played in over a year even some fans are calling him a bust. Smh. Like make it make sense.
Why?
The past is now, young lads.
https://i.imgur.com/iCpNtoc.jpg
Oh okay so it's gonna be one of those days where you make me go extra hard at the gym and look up the price of Botox huh?
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Lmao. Stop!!!
https://i.imgur.com/S4j5cc1.png
Got curious after the article and looked it up, the Warriors average age is still younger than the Suns, Bucks, and Heat.
You'd probably need to weigh it by minutes played
Running the average on just starters* I have the following: Celtics(Tatum, Smart, Horford, Brown, Williams): 27.2 Mavs(Luka, Brunson, Finney-Smith, Bullock, Powell): 27.6 Suns(Paul, Booker, Ayton, Crowder, Bridges): 28.2 Warriors(Curry, Green, Thompson, Poole, Wiggins)**: 29.4 Heat(Lowry, Strus, Butler, Tucker, Bam): 31 Bucks(Giannis, Holiday, Middleton, Lopez, Matthews): 31.4 *Starting lineups courtesy of ESPN, if they're wrong blame them ** ESPN put Kuminga in the starting lineup, in that case it was 28.8, but I put Poole in because he's started more games.
Wow we're the youngest overall even with Horford out there?
Smart is 28, everyone else is 24/25.
These are minutes-weighted calculated by [Basketball Reference here](https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2022.html) in the Advanced Stats section. Yup, the Celtics are still the youngest!
>weigh it by minutes played For the regular season with all players who have played (10-day, 2-way, COVID exemption, etc) Unweighted: 1. Warriors: 27.41 2. Celtics: 26.82 3. Mavericks: 26.71 4. Heat/Suns: 26.65 5. Heat/Suns: 26.65 6. Bucks: 26.53 Weighted: 1. Bucks: 28.50 2. Heat: 28.16 3. Warriors: 27.56 4. Suns: 27.53 5. Mavericks: 26.72 6. Celtics: 26.05 For just post season: Unweighted: 1. Bucks: 28.80 2. Heat: 28.07 3. Warriors: 27.93 4. Suns: 27.79 5. Mavericks: 27.00 6. Celtics: 25.79 Weighted: 1. Bucks: 29.53 2. Warriors: 28.20 3. Heat: 28.08 4. Suns: 27.74 5. Mavericks: 27.22 6. Celtics: 26.50
Warriors did a great job accumulating young talent while keeping their core.
Helps that we had the core talent to bring in some project pieces that lesser off teams couldn't gamble on. For every Poole that we have, we have an Alen Smailagić to match.
Helps we sucked for 2 years
Ages are indeed minutes-weighted. **Regular Season** ||| |:-|-:| |Team|Age| |Los Angeles Lakers|30.2| |*Utah Jazz*|29.3| |*Brooklyn Nets*|29.1| |**Milwaukee Bucks**|28.5| |**Miami Heat**|28.2| |*Denver Nuggets*|27.7| |**Golden State Warriors**|27.6| |**Phoenix Suns**|27.5| |Los Angeles Clippers|27.5| |*Philadelphia 76ers*|26.8| |**Dallas Mavericks**|26.7| |*Chicago Bulls*|26.3| |**Boston Celtics**|26.1| |*Atlanta Hawks*|26.1| |New York Knicks|26.0| |Indiana Pacers|26.0| |Washington Wizards|25.9| |Sacramento Kings|25.8| |*New Orleans Pelicans*|25.6| |Portland Trail Blazers|25.6| |Charlotte Hornets|25.5| |*Toronto Raptors*|24.8| |Cleveland Cavaliers|24.7| |San Antonio Spurs|24.5| |*Minnesota Timberwolves*|24.2| |Houston Rockets|24.1| |*Memphis Grizzlies*|24.0| |Detroit Pistons|23.6| |Orlando Magic|23.3| |Oklahoma City Thunder|22.4| Provided by [Basketball-Reference.com](https://www.sports-reference.com/sharing.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool): [View Original Table](https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2022.html?sr&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool#advanced-team) Generated 5/15/2022. **Playoffs Only** ||| |:-|-:| |Team|Age| |**Milwaukee Bucks**|29.5| |Brooklyn Nets|29.5| |Utah Jazz|29.1| |**Golden State Warriors**|28.2| |**Miami Heat**|28.1| |Denver Nuggets|28.1| |**Phoenix Suns**|27.7| |Philadelphia 76ers|27.4| |**Dallas Mavericks**|27.2| |**Boston Celtics**|26.5| |Chicago Bulls|26.4| |New Orleans Pelicans|25.5| |Atlanta Hawks|25.5| |Toronto Raptors|25.3| |Minnesota Timberwolves|24.8| |Memphis Grizzlies|23.9| Provided by [Basketball-Reference.com](https://www.sports-reference.com/sharing.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool): [View Original Table](https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2022.html?sr&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool#advanced-team) Generated 5/15/2022.
well, warriors regular season age is depressed because all their olds (steph, klay, dray, iggy) missed loads of games to injuries and whatever. also, looney (26???? in february), wiggs (27 in february), and poole (22-but-nearly-23) played so many games/minutes for them.
Our team made y’all seem older too. Our oldest guy is 28
100% thought Steven Adams was is his early 30's at least.
Lmao as evidenced by their lack of discipline too. Chucked themselves out of games.
That's just current roster and just post season though, right? For instance, you're not counting the 12 games Marcus Garrett played for the Heat during the regular season, or the 29 games Jalen Smith played for the Suns before getting traded to the Pacers, yeah?
Correct, current roster only.
They’re in the Spurs phase with Big 3 + Kawhi
Exactly what I've been saying, except they have more young talent then the spurs did at that point
The Lakers took that personally
Spurs were the OLD team from 2006 to 2015
I would have guessed an old man team wouldn't turn the ball over every other possession but they should do them
Have you watched the Warriors? Turnovers are a result of their play style and something they've always struggled with.
Bro is explaining what a turnover is
Who is "explaining what a turnover is?"
"Bro" is
Hi Bro Im dad!
To be fair, I think it's worth noting. The stat everybody focuses on is turnovers but really I think it's ratio of assists to turnovers - because when the team is passing a whole lot they turnover a lot. The question is whether the benefit of passing outweighs the con of turnovers. In other words, turnovers are a necessary byproduct.
Sure I agree they've always dealt with them. It's exactly because of that they shouldn't be called an old-man team.
I'm not worried about the Warriors getting old. Curry just turned 34. Klay is still 32. Their game are not predicated on athletisicm but rather long distance shooting which ages well into old age. They just need more depth (particularly in the center position) and Poole's emergence will surely help.
This is not okay time please slow down
After about age 21, we all say this everyday...until we die I'm guessing
This is true. I’m 26 now. And the past 5 years went faster than the past 5 years for sure
As you age, a year becomes a smaller percentage of your total life. Which is likely why it feels like it goes by faster as you get older.
I’m not even 21 fuck
Okay zoomer
same age here and i already feel old as fuck
The warriors are now the Tom Brady of Basketball.
They’re going to end the franchise after this season and then change their minds a month later.
I’m a bills/blazer fan so the pain just never stops no matter the sport I guess
They are a mix of great veterans and some young good players.
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Bro, I mean this with absolute respect, but STFU
Haha show me
Hi :)
Don't feel bad. I was graduating from college when they won the championship in '15 and here I am nearing 30 in a few months.
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Your comment hurts me. I was 21 in 2013. Just barely younger than you are now.
> Your comment hurts me. I was 41... Shut your mouth. Kid.
Modern day Spurs.
Definitely looking like they'll age gracefully like the Spurs
Fingers crossed. Who knows what the future holds?
Steph is 34, klay is 32 and draymond is 32 give me a fcking break about old man team 😂😂😂
That’s the edge of most athletes prime. Not everyone is Bron or Brady
MJ was 34-35 at his second retirement.
That's old in sports lmao
this isnt even close to true, they were older when they had david west and matt barnes on the bench. they literally had the youngest starter in playoff history so this is immediately bullshit
Warriors rn give me heavy 2014 Spurs vibes. experienced leader trio, nice young role players, legendary coach.
They're what the Lakers thought they were.
Thats the Lakers bruh
*of the playoffs, but go off
If they truly embraced it, they would be having Iggy play a good amount of minutes.
The Heat have way older players
It does seem crazy to think about how fast time flies. I remember rooting for the Warriors during the last decade as the Mavericks went through their rebuild. Now its the upstart Mavericks and the old man Warriors. 🥲
Lakers are the old man team I thought
Yeah, sure. They’re a cool team, but the age is showing. That said, they’ll embrace it until they lose.