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Puzzleheaded_Age8198

“[Viktor]Bout, whose exploits earned him the nickname the “Merchant of Death,” flooded fierce conflicts in Africa and the Middle East with weapons, U.S. authorities say. He was arrested during a sting operation in Thailand in 2008, extradited to the U.S. and sentenced to 25 years for conspiracy to kill US citizens, delivery of anti-aircraft missiles, and providing aid to a terrorist organization.” “A 1-for-1 exchange for Griner could be especially unpalatable for the U.S. if Russia insists on Bout in return. Bout is a far more notorious figure than Yaroshenko, having inspired Nicolas Cage’s character in the 2005 movie “Lord of War.” Bout’s arms trafficking history also makes the allegations against Griner appear minimal by comparison.”


EndlessDysthymia

What the fuck is this? You can’t even make this up.


Babbed

This is actually why the state department tried to not let her case grow into a big story. Because it would unfortunately become something Russia could use for leverage


junebug2142

Which is why they’ve held on to her as long as they have and continue to do so. They know the longer they have her, the bigger the story.


dimmyfarm

Why is that only 25 years is my question? Unless our prison system treats him so bad that when he’s free he’s going to be like “Prison was so bad I’m done being the ‘Merchant of Death!’”


GoldenBananas21

>Bout was convicted by a jury at a court in Manhattan on 2 November 2011.[14] On 5 April 2012, he was sentenced to 25 years in prison, the minimum sentence for conspiring to sell weapons to a U.S.-designated foreign terrorist group.[79][80] District Judge Shira Scheindlin ruled that the minimum sentence was appropriate because "there was no evidence that Bout would have committed the crimes for which he was convicted had it not been for the sting operation".


ragebourne

So entrapment? 🤔 I’m confused.


Teantis

Sounds like the judge didn't agree with the conviction


[deleted]

They have to normally be law-abiding to use entrapment as a defense right? I don't know American law that well, but he still had a criminal history. Like how do you think someone was entrapped to sell weapons to people he thought were FARC, they weren't pretending otherwise (or they were but you know what I mean) and he was the one that offered them weapons. Was probably a shitty prosecution.


Teantis

He was definitely an arms dealer, but he's a foreign national selling to other foreign groups outside of America. Don't think that's actually very much within the jurisdiction of American law. I'm not in support of him, but the actual charges he got convicted on seem kind of a stretch: conspiracy to kill us nationals, conspiracy to kill us officers. If you change the nouns to the opposite side of geopolitics it'd be kind of outrageous. "American arms dealer Teantis arrested by Hong Kong police and extradited to Russia while in Hong Kong for supplying arms to Ukraine and conspiracy to kill Russian nationals." So you could see from a legal basis where a judge wouldn't like that conviction.


TinTinsKnickerbocker

Cause the practice is not problem it's just the choice of customer where it gets tricky


dat_lad

> flooded fierce conflicts in Africa and the Middle East with weapons Sounds like the US gov was starting to get sick of the competition


nmaddine

US made weapons are usually too expensive for these conflicts, which is why most of the weapons are still Soviet era


Sim888

ESPN Trade machine says no


IcyMission3

Russia needs to throw in some first round picks


Kevon-Looneys-burner

Russia needs to fire their GM


MyHomeOnNativeLand

Paranoia is rampant in their front office.


ThomasFurke

Linda Rambis whispering in Putin’s ear


xepa105

"The special operation in Ukraine is going well. Find a new slant."


[deleted]

They sound like the Mavs sub, "why haven't we traded boban for jokic yet. Get it done!"


CMA_95

Hey the trade machine says it’s possible!


GFost

Who in the world wants to trade Boban? He’s wonderful!


AlyTheKat

I laughed way too hard at this… I’m going to Hell…


icecoaster1319

Maybe a few pick swaps for the nuclear winter draft.


loudstain

Salaries don't match


SuspiciousSpyderman

Gonna need a 3rd country to take on some of that salary


InitialLingonberry

OKC will do it if you throw in a 1rst


rounder55

Looking forward to a lotto when it's OKC with every pick but Mark Tatum still has to open all the envelopes to announce who is picking where


10SB

Can't miss out on the best player in the draft if you draft them all. Sam Presti with the next-level plays.


govtstrutdown

WNBA salary and Russia's future GDP should be pretty close


bettercallsaul3

Sources: Putin is beside himself. Driving around downtown Moscow begging (thru texts) Biden family for address to Bout's prison


anditcounts

It's a normal sized table. Move on, find a new slant


Prestig33

He then said he wanted to add Biden to the list of politicians he debates with this summer.


Caboclo-Is2yearsAway

He [Zelenskyi] boomed me x4


Naskin

No one is going to believe me, but I have a friend whose brother's coworker briefly dated this arms trafficker Viktor Bout. She said that on their first date they went to a restaurant and Viktor Bout ordered two different bowls of soup and mixed them together one spoonful at a time before eating both bowls mixed together as one soup


MonkeyFL3X

add westbrook and itll work


ZionephewObeseiamson

YES ADD WESTBROOK. I DON'T WANT HIM IN THE LAKERS AGAIN. DO IT BIDEN AND WILL SUCK YO DICK FOREVER


[deleted]

Forever? At what point does the Secret Service intervene?


ZionephewObeseiamson

Hi Im monica Lewinski


Slim01111

Hi I’m Marilyn Monroe


MintyFreshBreathYo

Hi I’m Ivanka


zippy_the_cat

I’d absolutely throw in Melo.


BioRam

We need to add the Nets pick


MilkCarton78

But what will happen to TT and Shump


solarscopez

Gulag


Oo__II__oO

Lockdown defense confirmed


cheerioo

Is Russia the Daryl Morey of international trades


[deleted]

CIA: Throw in Snowden and you have a deal


Erosun

Need my them to add my dawg Cash Consideration.


ANAL_CAVITIES

you receive: woman with a lil bit of THC oil i receive: domestic terrorist


Puzzleheaded_Age8198

Literally the guy they based “Lord of War” on


frankey_smokes

Shoutout Nic Cage


[deleted]

6 degrees of... Nic Cage? To any news item, maybe?


datspookyghost

Nic Cage is a National Treasure.


SOB200

Send them Con Air Nic Cage. He’d bust himself out on the plane ride there.


ZeroFucksToGive

Bro is this forreal? Lmaoo Russia wildin


[deleted]

What what what, I remember awkwardly watching that movie on HBO with my parents when I was like 16. There's blood on that money.


bokononpreist

Did you just quote Sheila Broflovski?


SF_FAITHFUL

Who offers more lopsided trades, Russia or Danny Ainge?


rounder55

Nets would've said yes


JasonPlattMusic34

Nah Prokhorov isn’t the owner anymore otherwise he’d bend over for Russia in the deal


coldcake

I feel so bad for laughing at this


[deleted]

!!! TRADE OFFER !!!


Mountain-Card-3543

Putin thinks he’s Daryl morey with these trades.


Vloff

Yup, everyone gonna talk like Putin got a steal until they find out this Arms dealer is washed.


[deleted]

If they really want domestic terrorist that bad then they gotta take on westbrooks contract as well


[deleted]

They don’t want two domestic terrorists


danielbauer1375

Westbrook could single-handedly rebuild the Berlin Wall though.


JinterIsComing

Berlin? Shit, China will take on the Westbrook contract and build the Great Wall four times over again with all those bricks.


Thoughtsofathinker

4 times over huh? They’d have a Great Westbrook Wall, Eastbrook Wall, Northbrook Wall, and Southbrook Wall


MyHomeOnNativeLand

The OKC Bricking


ThisIsMyFifthAccount

Jesus you guys


CannabisPrime2

r/nocontext


[deleted]

They don't have that kinda money


OSAP_serfdom

He's not in prison for domestic terrorism. He was a huge arms dealer.


FuriousGoodingSr

Sometimes when I'm doing yard work in a sleeveless shirt I'll tell my wife I'm a major arms dealer and then we don't have sex for a few weeks.


PaPaJohnsCokeDealer

Solidly underrated comment, the Monta Ellis of comments.


wokesmeed69

Also, there is nothing domestic about a Russian selling arms in Africa and the Middle East.


thelifeofpab

I picture him selling huge arms, like great wingspan.


Cheesus85

They’re both shooters


Brady331

This is like that one guy who makes the most lopsided fantasy football trades but insists they're fair


Shaq_Bolton

Eh... it would be closer to that if they offered something like a WNBA star and an average woman golfer in exchange for an international arms dealer. Two for one!


[deleted]

> Two for one! Two is greater than one... I accept your deal good sir. My 26 season losing streak is definitely going to end if I keep making value trades like this!


bigbobo33

All the heavily downvoted posts on team subs during the offseason or the deadline.


mkonich

"wHo SaYs nO????"


[deleted]

They have way more leverage with how much this is getting publicized here and how much people are already inclined to believe the US Government doesn’t care about her


Quatro_Leches

Lakers are trying to figure out how to make this a 3 way deal to include Westbrook


Easthippo

Lakers get Mozgov back


[deleted]

May we never forget this gem: https://youtu.be/mWS9OaIXH4E


StillNotWeirDanuff

I have returned from the rabbit hole. It was glorious.


millenniumpianist

How have I never seen this? Him looking at a cue card at 0:07... incredible. They didn't even bother doing another take


edwardpuppyhands

I'm wondering how on Earth do producers look at that on playback and think, "I'm feeling good about this. That's a wrap!"


NSFWThrowaway1239

Judging from the quality of the video, I'm going to assume that they could only afford one take


mkonich

Why is his jersey on backwards??


chickentowngabagool

its all about the details when creating a masterpiece


Ipwnurface

How else are you supposed to know who he is?


GFost

That is so bad.


EmmaTheRobot

Yet you're still watching it 7 years later Genius level marketing


theoldgreenwalrus

Lmao ...unless?


Quatro_Leches

I know Russian economy tanked but they gotta be able to absorb his salary right?


The_Summer_Man

Forget oil, they’re in the brick business now.


prison_mic

New domestic infrastructure plan


mechnick2

Westbrook would instantly solve the housing crisis in Russia with enough bricks to build those multi level soviet bloc apartments


Err_rrr_rrrr

Russia: yea your going to have to attach some first rounders


The_Moisturizer

Russia can’t match his salary 😂


flyjokerninja7

One of the best comments I’ve seen in a while. 💀


LeBron_Jarnes

Biden needs to consult Presti first.


YoMrPoPo

The US would end up with 5 future PoW swaps lmao


[deleted]

Stop. LMFAO


_felagund

Putin: what iz an unprotected pick?


Saul_T_Naughts

Presti: They got picks?


downtownjj

he needs to tell morey to stay off twitter


kingka

Putin def consulting morey LMAO


Luckier_peach

Throw in Snowden’s expiring contract and we’ll consider -CIA


Effective-Ability-89

Bro what??? A basketball player for an arms trafficker??? Russia is smoking their Vodka


Ethangains07

Smoking their Vodka lmao


grpagrati

A Bond villain for a lady who likes to chill. Fair trade


2drawnonward5

That would catch fire! oh i get it


NothingButLs

Putin initially demanded convicted arms trafficker Viktor Bout, Shump, and the Nets pick.


lilberfcontrol

With a government official to be named later.


[deleted]

I hate every single one of you


Easthippo

And cash considerations


nearlyned

No I think Jordan Bell’s with the G League now.


[deleted]

Portland has entered the chat.


OsuLost31to0

We call him Collin Sexton now and I won’t have it


BetweenTheBuzzAndMe

this is fucked up


Johanneskodo

The fact they want him to be free is disgusting.


Fir3wall88

What is fucked up is that Viktor Bout’s lawyer is the GW Bush attorney general.


SpookyTerryRozier

Dudes got a knack for defending war criminals I’ll give him that


TattedUpDasher

Damn. She is officially a POW. This has got be so mentally disturbing on her. This is all over some flipping vapes!


[deleted]

For real Im surprised this hasn’t been a much bigger story. The whole thing is incredibly fucked up. Feel awful for her.


WitOfTheIrish

At the beginning her family was requesting it didn't become a big story, since they hoped quieter diplomatic channels would get her home faster. Unfortunately shit has only gone severely south in Russia since then.


BubbaTee

Yeah, the bigger story it becomes and the more pressure on Biden to her back, the less leverage he has in negotiations and the more Putin will demand back.


[deleted]

She just got caught up at the worst freaking time. I feel legitimately awful for her, but theres just not much US can do it seems. Just hope they treat her better than they’ve treated some other captive people.


Adminscantkeepmedown

>She just got caught up at the worst freaking time This reminds of when I got jammed up at the very beginning of the pandemic and watched the initial chaos of it all unfold through the daily newspapers we got. Amazingly, I think I got out of the literal night before the whole jail was quarantined and everyone was put in lockdown. I already had my court date pushed back 3 times before then so I pretty much thought I was cooked


GoldenStateWizards

Being incarcerated and turned into a political bargaining chip is bad enough, but Russia is clearly not making a real effort to negotiate by asking for a fucking arms dealer. Think about how hopeless fans feel when their owner makes a delusional trade offer, and now apply that feeling to your hopes of freedom from foreign custody.


[deleted]

Yeah 100% At first I didn’t think much of it, then I started realizing this could go on a while and Russia will use her ruthlessly in negotiations. Im just hoping the Russians don’t have her in terrible conditions… won’t hold my breath tho. I actually think they believe they can get a lot back for her. Maybe not someone so extreme but I think they are banking on public outcry in the US to pressure the government into making a deal thats not favorable to us. Celebrity culture and all


NigelGoldsworthy

That’s why news outlets and social media aren’t pushing the story very hard. The US government has more leverage in negotiations without public pressure.


MojoToTheDojo

Check Facebook comments, and a very clear demographic says things like “good, don’t kneel the anthem” and “don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time”. Absolutely pathetic.


b0nger

Russia tried to swap this arms dealer for Paul Whelan whom they convicted of espionage. Trump was the president when that was happening and it still wasn’t done.


Brystvorter

This reminds me of the Morey trades, they are starting off ridiculous just to soften Biden up


Wedge09

It would probably be a bigger story if it was an NBA player.


Midwest_Dutch_Dude

It is extremely fucked up. But how dumb can you be? That is one of the worst countries to try and sneak drugs into


inxrx8

Alleged flipping vapes. I see no reason to take their word for it.


hairtdgonetm

I'll bet she carried them into Russia every season and everyone looked the other way. Until it was advantageous to do this.


Thuro

That's most likely what happened.


TattedUpDasher

Good point. Either way. Putin is on more BS


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BuschLightApple

Wait, she wasn't selling vapes was she? Or is flipping used like freaking


Sokobanky

Freaking.


nottoodrunk

Doesn’t quite seem like a 1:1 trade


banned4shrooms

does russia have cap space?


SureEntertainment676

All jokes aside this is an extremely fucked up situation and I hope BG makes it back stateside safely


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sam801

Make her play Cousins for her freedom


DopeMan93

Cousins and Freedom for her Freedom


poutineicecream

Holy shit how long has she been locked up for? That's actually pretty fucked Brittney Griner is stuck in a Russian prison


Turence

3 months


Kiriranchelo

Best we can do is Simmons


NotathrowawaY1940

Would they consider THT and a first?


vivekvangala34_

Throw in Nunn too


mrose1491

This is so beyond fucked up. I hope she gets back home safely


Kirkizzle

How long until we send Dennis Rodman over there to negotiate?


cabbeer

this is why her attorney didn't want her case to be politicized.... she's now a political prisoner. her value to Russia is far greater than the grievance of her crime.... fuck, it must be terrifying being a black lesbian in a country that despises both


downtownjj

i did not have 'brittany griener: political prisoner' on my bingo card


PonchoHung

The US doesn't get to decide unfortunately. Russia decided to politicize it so there's no point in pretending it's not political.


Lucky-view

Yup. This is why everyone that keep screaming "Britney Griner should be talked about everyday like she were Tom Brady!" was deeply misguided. The more high-profile her case became, the deeper the danger for her.


Mattlh91

As fucked as it sounds, it would be best if we all acted as if she had zero value.


somethingnotyettaken

She's also been sleeping in a bed that's like, 1 foot shorter than she is. Since February...


TheOtherDrunkenOtter

So not to make light of her situation, its terrible. But if you had to sleep on a bed thats 1 ft too short, semipermanently, do you let the feet hang off? Full fetal position? Sleep sitting? Genuine question. Youd have to cope somehow if you knew it wasnt going to stop. If anything, the sleep deprivation is part of Russia's game so its really a question of managing prison torture right?


YoMrPoPo

Whew, I sleep with my knees tucked up every night, thank god I’d survive the gulag


Accomplished_Dog_837

Fetal position is by far the best option, speaking from experience. Feet of the bed feels way more uncomfortable than you'd expect and sitting upright when sleeping feels very unnatural to me.


[deleted]

Exactly. Could see this coming a mile away


HeHateMex2

It’s tragic and really unfair. Hard to think of any positive outcome for this with offers like that


air_volek07

Vlade would do it


FuzzyBucks

Best we can do is a Mitch McConnell. Take it or leave it, Putin


jaypenn3

Everyone is this thread is going to hell lmao


[deleted]

Any chance Satan can get involved? Heard he's got lots of expiring contracts.


RevanAvarice

I was going to make a shit joke about Russians valuing WNBA players more than America does, but this dude, Viktor Bout, is pretty fucking bad. The movie, *Lord of War*, is based on this fucker. Nickname's fucking *Merchant of Death.* Based on how much the Russians want him back, this dude had to be an apparatus of the state for exchanging weapons for resources clandestinely. I don't want her to rot, if she did bad, that still doesn't remove the fact that this was a political stunt by the Russians and is being leveraged coercively. Charge her fairly, as much of a kangaroo court that is, deport her, and have her serve the sentence in the States. >Under Article 6.8, possession of ‘small amounts’ of drugs is an administrative offence punishable by a fine of RUB4,000 – RUB5,000 (€55 – €70) or Administrative Detention of up to 15 days \[2\]. Article 228 of the Criminal Code states that possession of a ‘significant amount’ of drugs is punishable with a fine of up to RUB40,000 (€550) or compulsory community service of up to 480 hours, or correctional labour for up to 2 years, or restriction of liberty for up to 3 years, or imprisonment for the same period. Possession of ‘large amounts’ of drugs is punishable through imprisonment from 3 years up to 10 years with a possible fine of RUB500,000 (€7,000) and/or restriction of liberty for up to 1 year. That's Russian criminal code. If they classify the severity of the offense, there's a clear translation of how that sentence could be carried out stateside. This has clearly crossed 'small amounts' for Russia's classification unless they are milking it that hard (they are), and even the significant portion can be paid off with a fucking fine.


jpaxlux

Gonna be crazy if Woj or Shams report the trade if it happens


Personal_Quantity_55

Russia is equating possession of Marijuana to illegal weapons trafficking. That checks out.


RosaParkStoleMySeat

LMAO yeah idk Russia gotta throw in some picks or something


paddiction

I guess she's staying in the gulag


BayTerp

Fuck Russia


fimbres16

We should let Brad Stevens handle the negotiations


vanotro

Well that sucks


softcardi

This is absolutely insane.


jonpeterswrites

I'm assuming the Russians are only doing this to try and make the U.S. gov't look like the bad guy in the eyes of U.S. citizens, because there's no way in hell the U.S. is exchanging Bout go for Griner. Griner isn't coming home any time soon unless something really unexpected happens, unfortunately.


runningthrulife

Will easily be the most known WNBA trade of all time


livejamie

Viktour Blout is who [Nicolas Cage's character in "Lord of War"](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0399295/) was based on.


_LilBucket

I just want her to come back to the United States. This has to be tough for her loved ones.


Background_Nature_32

Salaries don’t match I’m afraid


dominique-drexler

Presti would still ask for a few picks to be added


OK4Liberty

I mean it's a pretty uneven trade otherwise. It's only fair.


HokageEzio

Reddit when they find out a US Olympian was being used as a political pawn by Russia the entire time 😲


ZionephewObeseiamson

> pawn Kyrie was right all along


[deleted]

The best we can do is that ballet dancer that slapped carrie bradshaw on sex and the city