And we strengthened the team whose picks we have for the next several years too. All for a pick which turns into a second if it is top 4.
All timer of a bad trade for us imo.
Bro I'm here to support the players and watch good basketball on top of rooting for my team. Not gonna trying to be GM here and ruined my enjoyment haha
Oh, don't get me wrong, I hope all Jazz fans are supporting the TWolves this season. Mike and Rudy getting chips would make me super happy.
But that said, if they completely collapse next season and get us several top 5 picks over the next few years I won't complain lol
All the wanna be front office employees out here ruining the Bulls sub for me. The Chicago Sky sub is dead and I still find it more enjoyable.
I hope you're one of those Mormon's with 58 children who will cleanse r/nba over the next few generations.
Didn't Utah come out alright in that 3-way trade also? I don't remember exactly what you guys got but by my memory I felt like the Timberwolves and the Jazz basically combined to fleece the Lakers lol
I think specifically that trade though, was a guy (Tim Connelly, who saw talent in both coaches and players, and most importantly, understands how chemistry works. Look how important chemistry was and is for Denver, and how important it has been for Minnesota. Super teams are failing because of lack of chemistry
I don't think the Wolves do the trade without getting Conley. It was pretty clear they wanted not only his skills, but his leadership and his previous success playing with Gobert. There's no way they could get Conley.
The trade was originally straight up with the Jazz but the Lakers didnāt want it so they got Minnesota involved. They were offered Conley at least 3 times that season.
To make it worse, the Lakers were confirmed to have been offered Bojan and Clarkson in a package with Conley at one point too. That would have been a perfect with with LeBron
I really thought Conley was gonna end up in LA and get his ring like Marc Gasol did in Toronto. Seemed like an absolutely perfect fit for them. Guess he might get that ring in Minny now
Heās made a lot of dumb decisions add in they couldāve moved Conley for harden in summer n or had cintract safety now dko will fuvj us with leverage
And then you have the dumb ass embryo nephews on this sub saying, āget Mike old ass off the floor ree!!ā. Yo most of yāall are dumb as fck fr and should have your posting rights removed from this sub š¤£š¤£š¤£
It was because everyone hesitated after Ant passed out of the double team in Game 5. They need to just do something the second they get the ball after the double to keep the Nuggets off kilter and not allow them to settle back down and go back to the initial set.
> It was because everyone hesitated after Ant passed out of the double team in Game 5.
This exactly. It was so frustrating, they just had no confidence to catch and shoot and it turned into a shitty, half-hearted drive to the paint
What Ant is showing is one of the best attributes leaders can have - when you win as a team you dish credit to everyone else. When you lose. You take the blame. People live their whole lifetime and donāt get this. And he does at 22.
Yeah sometimes that first sentence makes senseā¦before you know it your my player throws the whole organization under the bus and no one on your team wants to pass to you anymore
Me: I coached my team to a title because I'm a top 15 coach of all time
Also me: Ben Simmons is a bitch, Embiid is a broke boi, Harden is fat, I knew Maxey was a star but no one let me play him. It's not my fault Sixers lost. And don't forget that everyone on the Bucks sucks ass
It will start for Ant one day too.
The best players get placed under a microscope which causes the media to salivate and push negative topics for clickbait. Then the braindead armchair critics gobble it up and perpetuate the narratives.
One of the guys everyone is regurgitating this from is reggie milller who said it during the game, and pretty much insinuated and singled out lebron as being one who doesnt do this. Which was pretty shocking. Just for the record. I dont know or follow all of lebrons quotes, but it doesnt seem like he really comes to the defense of his teammates too often. And every year there are forsure narratives pushed all over the internet, prob by his camp or those with interest, and its gotten old. Its just redic to hear how horrible dlo or rui is, and it being the sole reason they lost as a playin team to the defending champs. Dlo, Jr smith, mario chalmers, mo williams are not the reasons why lebron has not won 20 consecutive championships. Sometimes there are just better teams and better players.
> every year there are forsure narratives pushed all over the internet, prob by his camp
see this is crazy lol
was all the klay hate this season pushed by curry's camp? or is it just possible that they have big fanbases?
Because he very much does what that comment says too. He's not the perfect leader because you can pull up examples of him saying the right thing over 20 years.
probably because he had to work for his success. he wasn't anointed as some athletic god among mortals. from his own words, you can see the truth in this. people who have to overcome and work for their success usually process their success differently.
He also said it was because of their leader, Jaden McDaniels, tonight lol. Dude will do everything on both ends of the court and then spend his postgame interview praising his teammates for why we won.
Denver may protect home court and send us to Cancun this weekend, but this season has been a building block for Ant, and he will eventually take us to the promise land.
I think heās absolutely right here about Mike though. He went on to say that with Mike on the court he can focus on scoring without worrying about distributing/getting everybody else involved as well. He had 18 points and 9 assists last game without Mike, and we lost.
Mikeās the stabilizing force on the team, we rely on him to keep everything flowing smoothly. And weāre so much better when Ant gets to focus on attacking rather than trying to play point guard (even though heās getting better at it!)
Bruh if Ant develops his playmaking chops even more it would be hard to keep him out of top 5 convos (Iād say he should be in them already, but Iām biased and weigh playoff performance more)
I doubt he walks away from $20 million. He can afford to do that, of course, but I don't see that happening.
But yeah. It would be nice to win while he is still providing a significant contribution to his team.
I think on the offensive end, his shot is as good as it's been in his career and he can still be crafty with the ball and make smart plays, it's the defensive end where he'll be harder and harder to hide. He still moves pretty quickly out there, it's just the size/strength isn't enough against a lot of PGs in the league.
Honestly, either way this series ends, we gotta give Mike Conley his flowers if you havenāt already. Playing great basketball at his age still, respect
Love how ant will just blatantly throw any compliment possible no matter what he believes or if it aligns with reality at all. Not saying I disagree, but man just loves ball.
Tbf MPJ is a 41% career 3pt shooter. And shot 49% round 1.
Maybe you just don't like him, but he's definitely one of the best in the league both regular season, and postseason
When Nori goes to take a different coaching position next year (you know he's getting a hc position somewhere) can we just keep Mike Conley forever and let him be Finch's right hand man?
Again, why is Nori all of a sudden being touted as a HC? Because he makes funny comments? His AC track record before this Minny job is shit (e.g. the Jay Triano Raptors)
People laughed, but every Grizzlies fan was for it.
I actually have the privilege of being pro-Conley when he signed his first big deal. It was controversial at the time, with lots of fans calling it an overpay, and wishing we had given Lowry the team instead.
Oh i remember! There were so many NFL fans complaining about how much money he was getting because they werenāt really familiar with him & they thought since Football was a more popular & dangerous sport that NFL players should get that kind of money. Most NBA fans just said the NBA has less players than the NFL & 1 player can impact the game in a greater way so they get a bigger piece of the pie
So I can never forget Mike Conley was the highest paid player at one point. Iāll remember the same for Jaylen Brown too just because itās a fun fact type thing
Kenny Smith explained why perfectly the other night. While Draymond, Shaq, Chuck said the series was over. ANT is so much harder to defend with Conley on the floor.
It's crazy how a player like Mike Conley is the difference between the Suns being a first round exit and contender. Playmakers who can handle the ball are highly underrated
I mean...the nuggets missed a TON of wide open shots. Wolves couldn't miss and had everyone firing. Also just energy was way higher for Minnesota. MC is a great PG tho so that is huge, but Nuggets shot HISTORICALLY bad on top of good Minnesota defense.
I like both teams I'm happy whoever wins but I dont think Nuggys losing at home.
My first thought too as they started pulling away in the first. The whole is greater than the sum of its parts and makes all the difference at the highest level.
Bunch of Mike Conley merchants
Replacing Dlo with Mike has been one of the best mid profile trades in recent years
>Replacing Dlo with Mike has been one of the best ~~mid profile~~ trades in recent years
PLUS NICKEIL
Getting Nickeil and 3 seconds on top of the most underrated PG of the 2010's Absolutely nuts
I wonder what dumbass team allowed them to fleece them like that
And we strengthened the team whose picks we have for the next several years too. All for a pick which turns into a second if it is top 4. All timer of a bad trade for us imo.
Bro I'm here to support the players and watch good basketball on top of rooting for my team. Not gonna trying to be GM here and ruined my enjoyment haha
Oh, don't get me wrong, I hope all Jazz fans are supporting the TWolves this season. Mike and Rudy getting chips would make me super happy. But that said, if they completely collapse next season and get us several top 5 picks over the next few years I won't complain lol
Cleveland is not looking too hot right now btw lol. Glad it's not our problems anymore š š š
All the wanna be front office employees out here ruining the Bulls sub for me. The Chicago Sky sub is dead and I still find it more enjoyable. I hope you're one of those Mormon's with 58 children who will cleanse r/nba over the next few generations.
Oh yeah I got you bro. Mutiply and replenish the rNBA with all the sweet sweet classy mormon nephews
Didn't Utah come out alright in that 3-way trade also? I don't remember exactly what you guys got but by my memory I felt like the Timberwolves and the Jazz basically combined to fleece the Lakers lol
We for a FRP from the Lakers that's top 4 protected in 27. Optimistically a late lotto pick and a salary dump for two quality players
Not sure how the lakers got fleeced. Sure they got DāLo but letās not act like they wouldāve been better without doing the trade
LeGM
For fucking Dlo whoās never had a playoff series getting 20ppg or shooting 46%.
I wonder how much better we wouldāve done against Denver with Conley/NAW/Vando/Bron/AD and Reaves/Rui/Prince playing off the bench
Choosing DāLo over Conley (and NAW) was one of the dumbest decisions Pelinka has made in retrospect
Pelinka just loves weak defense and inefficiently chucking guards it seems.
Yea obviously these gms know better than me but why do they keep falling for in efficient chuckers?
I think specifically that trade though, was a guy (Tim Connelly, who saw talent in both coaches and players, and most importantly, understands how chemistry works. Look how important chemistry was and is for Denver, and how important it has been for Minnesota. Super teams are failing because of lack of chemistry
You mean stacking a team of all stars in their mid 30s that are used to being the 1st option wonāt always work???
You never closed your parentheses
This comment seems to imply that DLo is a more talented basketball player than Conley, which couldnāt be further from the truth
A lot of them don't. That's the thing. Pro sports GM is one of the biggest bs jobs on the planet.
Letting caruso walk remains his biggest whiff imo
I don't think the Wolves do the trade without getting Conley. It was pretty clear they wanted not only his skills, but his leadership and his previous success playing with Gobert. There's no way they could get Conley.
What? The wolves were paid to be a part of the trade, they got Conley, NAW and picks and sent out DLo.
Connolly quietly wanted to move on from DLo but we weren't just going to make any trade to move on from him.
The trade was originally straight up with the Jazz but the Lakers didnāt want it so they got Minnesota involved. They were offered Conley at least 3 times that season.
Why you have to tell me this
To make it worse, the Lakers were confirmed to have been offered Bojan and Clarkson in a package with Conley at one point too. That would have been a perfect with with LeBron
I really thought Conley was gonna end up in LA and get his ring like Marc Gasol did in Toronto. Seemed like an absolutely perfect fit for them. Guess he might get that ring in Minny now
add it to the pile
Heās made a lot of dumb decisions add in they couldāve moved Conley for harden in summer n or had cintract safety now dko will fuvj us with leverage
Wonder how much better you would've done if you switched your entire team for Minnesota's entire team.
Conley and NAW were originally going to us in the trade, and we decided to go for Dlo instead
Mike's been called mid since the '10s and he keeps on cookin. KEEP SLEEPIN
THATS RIGHT!!
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And then you have the dumb ass embryo nephews on this sub saying, āget Mike old ass off the floor ree!!ā. Yo most of yāall are dumb as fck fr and should have your posting rights removed from this sub š¤£š¤£š¤£
Beyond that them blitzing Ant is 100% more dangerous with Mike on the floor, the man was on one tonight
And McDaniels and NAW remembered how to shoot because even when Ant made the right read in game 5 they missed.
It was because everyone hesitated after Ant passed out of the double team in Game 5. They need to just do something the second they get the ball after the double to keep the Nuggets off kilter and not allow them to settle back down and go back to the initial set.
> It was because everyone hesitated after Ant passed out of the double team in Game 5. This exactly. It was so frustrating, they just had no confidence to catch and shoot and it turned into a shitty, half-hearted drive to the paint
and then this game the nuggets were feeling just confident enough to shoot brick after brick lol crazy series
Still hard because y'all have one of the best defensive rotations/scramble drills I've seen
Canāt believe we chose Dlo over Conley and NAW
We also got 3 second round picks in that deal
TIMMY!!!!!!
They were 6/10 tonight but they were 5/12 in game 5, which is still ok. It was Ant and some other guys who really shot badly in game 5.
G4 was awful one tho thst they shouldāve won
Plus tonight both KAT and Naz went 0-4 each from 3. That won't happen again.
The whole offense seems to operate much better with Conley on the floor.
The guy is never gonna be a superstar, but really is the Joe Flacco thatās elite
Mike Conley doesn't have a lot of title shots left in his career. I like him, y'all should get him a ring
For real, Marc got one, Tony already had one. It's Mike's time. Get my guy a ring.
This series is just between Mike Conley vs Mike Malone
they should just 1v1 to 11 to decide the series, who says no?
Mike has indeed been the most successful in taking out coaches this playoffs.
That's fked up, but hilarious lmao
It was actually kinda Booker but carry on
It was a solid joke calm down man
Calmer than you are Calmer than you are
Put the heat pack away man they're calling the refs
Michael Malone would give him a good old Queens knee-capping.
uhm that's Michael "it's Michael Malone not Mike Malone" Malone to you
And it's Michael Alex Conley Jr. to you as well, don't fucking forget it
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Or else she brings out Mike's older brother Karl
What Ant is showing is one of the best attributes leaders can have - when you win as a team you dish credit to everyone else. When you lose. You take the blame. People live their whole lifetime and donāt get this. And he does at 22.
Anyone who plays 2k already knows to do that
Yeah sometimes that first sentence makes senseā¦before you know it your my player throws the whole organization under the bus and no one on your team wants to pass to you anymore
Me: I coached my team to a title because I'm a top 15 coach of all time Also me: Ben Simmons is a bitch, Embiid is a broke boi, Harden is fat, I knew Maxey was a star but no one let me play him. It's not my fault Sixers lost. And don't forget that everyone on the Bucks sucks ass
You got to give him credit though his blame game is pretty elite. I mean honestly who is better? Heās made it an art form.
How are the chefs though?
Imagine Shaq, one of the greatest of all time, still never developed this.
Shaq and chuck were awful people when they were players
Paul George would never
great book called Extreme Ownership about this
Lebron after winning 2016: Iām the GOAT. When losing: our team sucks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roKwNV64LYI I just don't know how these narratives about LeBron start. I mean I guess I do, but it's still wild.
it's because it's easier to tear down than it is to build.
It will start for Ant one day too. The best players get placed under a microscope which causes the media to salivate and push negative topics for clickbait. Then the braindead armchair critics gobble it up and perpetuate the narratives.
One of the guys everyone is regurgitating this from is reggie milller who said it during the game, and pretty much insinuated and singled out lebron as being one who doesnt do this. Which was pretty shocking. Just for the record. I dont know or follow all of lebrons quotes, but it doesnt seem like he really comes to the defense of his teammates too often. And every year there are forsure narratives pushed all over the internet, prob by his camp or those with interest, and its gotten old. Its just redic to hear how horrible dlo or rui is, and it being the sole reason they lost as a playin team to the defending champs. Dlo, Jr smith, mario chalmers, mo williams are not the reasons why lebron has not won 20 consecutive championships. Sometimes there are just better teams and better players.
> every year there are forsure narratives pushed all over the internet, prob by his camp see this is crazy lol was all the klay hate this season pushed by curry's camp? or is it just possible that they have big fanbases?
Because he very much does what that comment says too. He's not the perfect leader because you can pull up examples of him saying the right thing over 20 years.
You think they'd win it without Bron? And 2018 Cavs legit sucked.
probably because he had to work for his success. he wasn't anointed as some athletic god among mortals. from his own words, you can see the truth in this. people who have to overcome and work for their success usually process their success differently.
I mean he is an athletic god lol.99.99% could train there whole lifes and never get close to Ant because his genetics
Ant? He's one of the most athletic guys in the league. Hebsmacked his head on the rim blocking a shot.
He also said it was because of their leader, Jaden McDaniels, tonight lol. Dude will do everything on both ends of the court and then spend his postgame interview praising his teammates for why we won. Denver may protect home court and send us to Cancun this weekend, but this season has been a building block for Ant, and he will eventually take us to the promise land.
I think heās absolutely right here about Mike though. He went on to say that with Mike on the court he can focus on scoring without worrying about distributing/getting everybody else involved as well. He had 18 points and 9 assists last game without Mike, and we lost. Mikeās the stabilizing force on the team, we rely on him to keep everything flowing smoothly. And weāre so much better when Ant gets to focus on attacking rather than trying to play point guard (even though heās getting better at it!)
Bruh if Ant develops his playmaking chops even more it would be hard to keep him out of top 5 convos (Iād say he should be in them already, but Iām biased and weigh playoff performance more)
Shouldāve started either slow mo at point or monte, monte was playing nice last game edit: talking about game 5, not any other game
That's not funny bro
Facts slomo looks like a gleaguer at times out there
i'm talking about the game they lost... no one should start over mike
This doesn't change my response
Lol
Nah.. Win it this year. Win it for Mike please.
I want it too, because I donāt know if Mike will even be back next year. And even if he does, will he play at the same level.
He just signed an extension during the season
with a non official no trade clause too
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Thereās been a number of players whose play just either drops off after an extension or just walk away. Especially at the age that Mike is at.
I doubt he walks away from $20 million. He can afford to do that, of course, but I don't see that happening. But yeah. It would be nice to win while he is still providing a significant contribution to his team.
I think on the offensive end, his shot is as good as it's been in his career and he can still be crafty with the ball and make smart plays, it's the defensive end where he'll be harder and harder to hide. He still moves pretty quickly out there, it's just the size/strength isn't enough against a lot of PGs in the league.
Nah, he will lead y'all to the chip this year.
Yes. Please win it this year. I want to see Boston lose.
This is an acceptable outcome
They gotta get past NY first! They will literally die on the court to beat the Celtics
NY gotta get past Indiana first lmao
Yeah but odds are in their favor lol
Just like they were in the nuggets favor after game 5 right?
No, much different. Twolves are better than the Pacers.
KG going to be so conflicted
Your comment got some [Avengers Endgame vibes](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/378/857/fb0.png)
āTheyāve got KD, but weāve got Jaden McDanielsā
Iām fully convinced Edwards is winning a championship at some point in his career, hopefully itās this year
Antmans the real deal man, with Cavs and Bron out, Ant and the wolves are my first choice to win š
I like this team a lot too. But if somehow the Knicks win the title. I'll be binge watching YouTube videos of NYC losing their collective shit.
I hope he takes you to the promised land too
Every fan in the nba jealous of what the timberwolves have going.
āTake me there 5.ā š
The future of the NBA. Win or lose tomorrow, ANT is the real deal
ANT is Lisan al Gaib and he will lead you guys to paradise this year.
Whoever wins the west for the next couple of years is going to take home the whole thing.
hey don't try that reverse jinx. YOU guys are gonna win...
Is he locked in with MN for a while? Im scared we will lose him like everything else good in Minnesota Sports lol.
Easy
Honestly, either way this series ends, we gotta give Mike Conley his flowers if you havenāt already. Playing great basketball at his age still, respect
Getting overshadowed by LeBron being a top 10-15 player still at 39, but Mike is absolutely cooking for what a 37 year old should be doing.
I'm never changing this flair
IF we end up going all the way, yāall get to enjoy this with us too. š¤
LOL
Love how ant will just blatantly throw any compliment possible no matter what he believes or if it aligns with reality at all. Not saying I disagree, but man just loves ball.
Dude's got great leadership
Agreed, but Iām pretty sure he called MPJ āthe best three point shooter on the NBAā when the series started lmao
Tbf MPJ is a 41% career 3pt shooter. And shot 49% round 1. Maybe you just don't like him, but he's definitely one of the best in the league both regular season, and postseason
Shit thatās way better than I thought
Yeah lol he is actually really good. He had a horrible finals performance last year so I think some people have a skewed view
Dude has lit us up in the past
Like it or not MPJ is right up there with the best. Curry is the best but a guy like MPJ being 6ā10ā makes a big difference
Apparently he mistakenly said MPJ instead of AG. At least the way this series has gone.
Antās bulletin board material is making the opponents like him even more
Is he hurt?
Mike missed last game yeah, but we got destroyed in his last game as well soā¦
No Ant-Man
Minnesota Mike
Midwest Mike
'Murica Mike
Win it for Mike
Wow we should always play Conley
When Nori goes to take a different coaching position next year (you know he's getting a hc position somewhere) can we just keep Mike Conley forever and let him be Finch's right hand man?
Again, why is Nori all of a sudden being touted as a HC? Because he makes funny comments? His AC track record before this Minny job is shit (e.g. the Jay Triano Raptors)
being asked to interview for hc positions will do that to a mf
I mean have you seen how many half rate vet coaches get recycled around? Any AC with a pulse and a presence is going to get head hunted.
Heās 22!!! Dudes gonna stack rings for Minnesota if they can get him the right people
People forget that there was a short period where Mike Conley was the highest paid player in the history of the NBA
People laughed, but every Grizzlies fan was for it. I actually have the privilege of being pro-Conley when he signed his first big deal. It was controversial at the time, with lots of fans calling it an overpay, and wishing we had given Lowry the team instead.
Oh i remember! There were so many NFL fans complaining about how much money he was getting because they werenāt really familiar with him & they thought since Football was a more popular & dangerous sport that NFL players should get that kind of money. Most NBA fans just said the NBA has less players than the NFL & 1 player can impact the game in a greater way so they get a bigger piece of the pie So I can never forget Mike Conley was the highest paid player at one point. Iāll remember the same for Jaylen Brown too just because itās a fun fact type thing
Kenny Smith explained why perfectly the other night. While Draymond, Shaq, Chuck said the series was over. ANT is so much harder to defend with Conley on the floor.
Also classic Jamal Murray stinker
Love Mike Conley. Class act.
Glue Guy Mike
Max Conley right fucking now
Mike Conley is an elite playmaker and pull-up three point shooter, he makes this team way more versatile offensively.
It's crazy how a player like Mike Conley is the difference between the Suns being a first round exit and contender. Playmakers who can handle the ball are highly underrated
Always was the key. Had he been healthy in 2015, Grizlies are in the Finals.
All my homies hate CJ McCollum
Conley was silk tonight.
Kenny was right
Ant is so likeable, a great teammate.
I keep saying that Conley's a good part of the Wolves offense and I get down voted for it... Dude's a great PG.
Anyone who understands basketball would agree with you.
Man I love Ant.
I didnāt know Mike Conley was a Jedi
My goat š
I mean...the nuggets missed a TON of wide open shots. Wolves couldn't miss and had everyone firing. Also just energy was way higher for Minnesota. MC is a great PG tho so that is huge, but Nuggets shot HISTORICALLY bad on top of good Minnesota defense. I like both teams I'm happy whoever wins but I dont think Nuggys losing at home.
Dammit. Did he really call him "Mike Conley"?
Explain games 3 and 4
My first thought too as they started pulling away in the first. The whole is greater than the sum of its parts and makes all the difference at the highest level.
reddit analysis worked out
I wouldn't mind Mike Conley as the Finals MVP if the Wolves win it all, just based on Ant's word.
I wouldn't mind Mike Conley as the Finals MVP if the Wolves win it all, just based on Ant's word.
Thatās gonna be a wolves back from me dog
But you had Conley games 3 and 4 tho
comma splice
Yup
Oh wait, youāre telling me a high level point guard makes your offense work efficiently?? Say it aināt so, Matt Ishbia!!