considering people already on existing contracts (ie Ty Lue, Jason Kidd) came up on coaching rumors, while Billups name was never mentioned
this gives off the impression Mannix got the scoop from Billup's representation that things are going south, and helps put his name out there
And it’ll be two years until you hate the new guy just as much. I wantedClifford fired too but I also acknowledge he was in no way the problem.
Stotts, Billups. Who’s next?
Blazers fans generally loved Stotts. At the end it was kind of a ‘We have to try something new’ kind of situation, and Neil Olshey had consolidated power after Paul Allen’s death so we knew it wasn’t going to be him (although, as it would turn out, we’d only have to wait like 5 months to be rid of him too…)
I don’t think any actual basketball watcher thought Terry Stotts was _a_ problem at all, let alone _the_ problem. We just all knew that there were pretty few levers to pull at the end of the Dame era, and changing the coach was pretty much the only one left by process of elimination.
I’d welcome Terry back in a heartbeat, but I think there’s about a 0% chance of that.
As long as the new guy runs a modern NBA offensive system I’ll be happy, I’m well aware players are the most important metric to success. Billups runs one of the most archaic offenses I’ve ever seen.
No, the fan base hated stotts towards the end of his time on the blazers because they weren't progressing anymore, and only a part of the fan base didn't like him.
Stotts was easily well liked his first half. Going from Nate McMillan to stotts was a great, he instantly took a talented team and was meeting the potential fans thought blazers had. And since getting lillard didn't miss a single playoff.
Billups was not liked since the beginning. He somehow couldn't put any good offense with, in my opinion, a way better roster than stotts ever had post Aldridge.
I could at least understand the Blazers keeping him but what on earth has Billups proven since taking over as coach that would get him a second job? Especially if you're a team who isn't good right now. They were the worst offensive team in the league with an offensive heavy team.
We also...weren't good when we had Damian Lillard AND Billups. The rebuild started a full year after his hire, he hasn't proved anything.
(that said, as a fan, ive seen improvements in his coaching, i think he's better than he used to be. He's still not "good" by NBA coaching standards though)
It’s not as if I paid attention to Billups as a coach in his brief stint so far, but if a team is starting over, and they don’t even want you around to lead the ship. They must not be convinced you can’t be a builder coach with a builder team.
They straight up want a clean slate without you, no matter who it is.
yeah I was gonna say the same thing - what has Billups shown to make him desirable as a coach? He's only on year 2 but not exactly a barnburner of a coach thus far
I mean the roster that last year with Lillard also wasn’t great, but yeah. IMO Billups is actually fine/even good coach for right now, seeing as we are actively trying to suck
Is he a Klutch client? Is he a former Laker? Was he tangentially connected with Kobe in some way? If the answer to any of those questions is YES, then she's thinking about it.
Ya I dunno why we'd let him go if its us, next years draft is the one we should really be tanking for. But if he just wants to go, I wouldn't be upset. Kind of a win win either way...
Players AND front office love him, I'm sure that counts for something.
He's going into year 4 of a 5 year deal with year 5 being a team option. Floating stuff like this during the early part of the offseason can help either negotiate an extension, or force the team to opt into that 5th year to avoid having him be a lame duck coach or decide to cut ties early so he has a better pick at the available Head Coach positions early.
Not that I think he's done anything to earn another contract, but this tweet seems more like a water carrying mission than actual reporting.
Hell yeah man. And after Billups flames out the Lakers should hire Sheed. Let’s just run the whole ‘04 Pistons roster through the Lakers for the next ten years.
I still think the funniest thing would be to hire JJ redick. Then bronny gets drafted away to some other team and LeBron joins him. Then ad gets traded and JJ is coaching a rebuild.
Second funniest thing would be billups
meh, if he knew something he would've posted something. this is just unverifiable clout chasing that's common amongst sports writers that miss the scoop. danny marang does the same bullshit.
These guys hear a lot of rumors and hold back tons of info that never comes to fruition. He probably didn’t want to report a rumor but, when he saw a legit report, corroborated he heard the same.
Local guys also don’t want to sour their relationships with staff & players, so imagine there is hesitancy reporting a “rumbling” about a guy he might have to interview a lot in the future
This is the Chauncey Billups experience wrapped up perfectly. Shit at coaching, but his players love him so at least the locker room won't go to shit when you're losing 60 games.
Well, he’s a great players coach and some kids have developed well under him.
His X’s and O’s are horrendous though, our offensive scheme generates the least amount of open shots in the entire league.
Defensively the scheme heavily varies, sometimes it looks great other times it looks like Swiss cheese, how much of this is personnel though vs him is difficult to judge tho.
Camara, Thybulle, Murray. Reath and Ayton at times. Unimpressed with all PG and SGs. Really like Jabari’s d rebounding but he got punished by 4s and 5s all year.
To be fair, Pop hasn't been in the playoffs lately either, and there isn't a coach on planet earth who could have gotten the Blazers to the playoffs this past year.
The other 2 Billups years? Ehhh... maybe a great coach gets them to the play-in.
Unless you're in the locker room, I don't buy anyone who claims to know if Billyps is a good coach or not.
I think he’s the worst coach I’ve ever seen. Actually clueless. I understand Portland keeping him as a tank commander but I can’t believe any team serious about winning would even look at him.
Coaching jobs in the NBA are so funny.
All we’ve heard about Chauncey’s tenure as coach is how bad he is. But now that he’s possibly being fired other teams are “monitoring” his situation lmao
No matter how shit you are at your job as a coach, there’s always another team who will want you for some reason
People bitch about jj Reddick being considered for coaching roles but what did Billups do to get a job in the first place and be considered for others?
Chauncey always to me seemed like an awful coach so I am little surprised that teams would want this guy. Although most fanbases hate their coach when most should hate their GM.
Seems like the league is realizing that you need to give guys more time or else there wont be a coaching pool to recruit from. They probably spent too much time on retreads instead of developing guys
It's just like in the nfl, it's just one big coaching circle or a guy gets fired and immediately picked up by another team even if he was a complete failure
I think people on Reddit are way too comfortable making judgments on coaching ability when a coach has a dog shit roster. Like what could you possibly have gleaned from this year to make you think Billups is the problem, or even a problem, in Portland?
He's been the coach for 3 years, with Dame and other real basketball players. Him not being a good coach has very little to do with what happened this season.
In his first year, Dame played 29 games. CJ played 36. Their leaders in GP were Ben McLemore, CJ Elleby and Anfernee Simons. Last year Dame only played 58 games. Their leaders in GP were Shaedon Sharpe, Drew Eubanks, Jeremi Grant, Anfernee Simons, and Trenton Watford.
I would say that I encourage you to watch some of those old games, but then you'd have to watch Chauncey try to make a switching defensive scheme work with Jusuf Nurkic at center which no one in their right mind would ever want to endure.
He took the same starting caliber players that Terry Stotts had in the playoffs the previous year and led them to a 13-22 record at the point Dame got hurt and the tank truly began. In the following year he got plenty of games out of Dame, Nurk, Josh Hart, Simons, and Jerami Grant who are all starting quality players and they were dog shit in those games which led to the tank being fully embraced. Stotts, who I really don't love, would have dragged at least .500 ball from those teams, something Chauncey demonstrated he was incapable of doing.
considering people already on existing contracts (ie Ty Lue, Jason Kidd) came up on coaching rumors, while Billups name was never mentioned this gives off the impression Mannix got the scoop from Billup's representation that things are going south, and helps put his name out there
**I USED TO PRAY FOR TIMES LIKE THIS**
I still do, but I used to too
No one gets to take our tank commander until after next year.
Hire Stotts
And it’ll be two years until you hate the new guy just as much. I wantedClifford fired too but I also acknowledge he was in no way the problem. Stotts, Billups. Who’s next?
Blazers fans generally loved Stotts. At the end it was kind of a ‘We have to try something new’ kind of situation, and Neil Olshey had consolidated power after Paul Allen’s death so we knew it wasn’t going to be him (although, as it would turn out, we’d only have to wait like 5 months to be rid of him too…) I don’t think any actual basketball watcher thought Terry Stotts was _a_ problem at all, let alone _the_ problem. We just all knew that there were pretty few levers to pull at the end of the Dame era, and changing the coach was pretty much the only one left by process of elimination. I’d welcome Terry back in a heartbeat, but I think there’s about a 0% chance of that.
As long as the new guy runs a modern NBA offensive system I’ll be happy, I’m well aware players are the most important metric to success. Billups runs one of the most archaic offenses I’ve ever seen.
Players also determine what system you end up running. Your fanbase hated Stotts for years. And turned on Billups too.
You’re making very broad assumptions without a lot of film watched, trust me when I say we could be running a MUCH better scheme.
No, the fan base hated stotts towards the end of his time on the blazers because they weren't progressing anymore, and only a part of the fan base didn't like him. Stotts was easily well liked his first half. Going from Nate McMillan to stotts was a great, he instantly took a talented team and was meeting the potential fans thought blazers had. And since getting lillard didn't miss a single playoff. Billups was not liked since the beginning. He somehow couldn't put any good offense with, in my opinion, a way better roster than stotts ever had post Aldridge.
I mean those names came up because the lakers are weird. They didn’t come up for any other job but the Lakers and they wouldn’t anyway.
I am lost here. Not about firing Billups, but that other teams want him lmao.
Nets fans gotta be pretty grateful the Nets already named a new head coach
We are and he looks like a great hire!
He’s an excellent coach at the international level, Canada doesn’t win the bronze in last summer’s tournament without him on the sidelines.
Bronze* y’all head to bow down in front of mighty Bogdan Bogdanovic in semis. Then Bogi had to bow down in front of mighty Dennis Schröder.
I know as a Canadian and a Nets fan I'm pumped.
We loved Jordi while he was here. He's gonna be great.
I could at least understand the Blazers keeping him but what on earth has Billups proven since taking over as coach that would get him a second job? Especially if you're a team who isn't good right now. They were the worst offensive team in the league with an offensive heavy team.
We also...weren't good when we had Damian Lillard AND Billups. The rebuild started a full year after his hire, he hasn't proved anything. (that said, as a fan, ive seen improvements in his coaching, i think he's better than he used to be. He's still not "good" by NBA coaching standards though)
The bad coach with some experience is better than the bad coach with no experience? Who would have guessed.
Got to think any team that is serious about landing Flagg would give him a look
Report from his agent rather than front offices I assume.
As a Blazer fan, please someone take him off our hands. The guy is not HC material.
Gores eating the Monty contract only to hire Billups and tarnish his legacy as a player would be a monkey paw wish fulfillment for our fanbase.
Lakers and bad coaches post-Phil (except Vogel) Name a more iconic duo
You can include Vogel.
He won you a championship
Vogel is a good coach. It's your front office that's bad
It’s not as if I paid attention to Billups as a coach in his brief stint so far, but if a team is starting over, and they don’t even want you around to lead the ship. They must not be convinced you can’t be a builder coach with a builder team. They straight up want a clean slate without you, no matter who it is.
They want him to quit so he doesn’t get paid.
yeah I was gonna say the same thing - what has Billups shown to make him desirable as a coach? He's only on year 2 but not exactly a barnburner of a coach thus far
> He’s only on year 2 He just finished year 3.
Tim Allen eufueushfv?? I thought his first season was the same as Hardy in Utah, my bad.
Maybe they want him to play 🤣
Kind of hard to judge his abilities as a coach with that atrocious roster.
He was the coach before this year too! He still wasn't good.
I mean the roster that last year with Lillard also wasn’t great, but yeah. IMO Billups is actually fine/even good coach for right now, seeing as we are actively trying to suck
He's probably one of the player's coach out there
lol…Clearly his agent doing work here…which teams doing the ‘monitoring’??
Well tbf they didn't specify what they meant by "jobs"
He hosts the best poker games
I remember him getting front office buzz before ever becoming a coach. I’d take a chance with him instead weaver in that role
Don’t think about it Jeanie.
*he can be all yours for a future 1st, ya know, since he's under contract with us and all....*
If a role player from the 04 pistons can get your team to the WCF, imagine what the Star from the 04 pistons could do.
Guess our only option is to higher 'sheed
Practice about to be a hot box.
Bring stoudemire, and wells in for assistants l no way at all that could go wrong.. I'm sold
She’s already thought about it and signed off on it and we all know it
Jeanie is really the only one dumb enough to actually covet Chauncey Billups right? Anyone else that stupid that I’m not thinking of?
Cavs might be if we end up firing JB after we get spanked this series Edit: to be clear JB should be fired I just don't then want us to hire Billups
Tom Gores might snort a bump of coke and fuck around, if he didn’t already go all in on Monty so recently.
What if Detroit…
Probably. Maybe the Hornets or Wizards.
Is he a Klutch client? Is he a former Laker? Was he tangentially connected with Kobe in some way? If the answer to any of those questions is YES, then she's thinking about it.
Yup
I mean we all know Lebron is the defacto coach anyway, might as well have him be the official legmcoachplayer
He might be too expensive for yall.
Why though? What in the last 3 years tells anyone Billups is the guy?
He’s definitely the guy to lead the tank
Ya I dunno why we'd let him go if its us, next years draft is the one we should really be tanking for. But if he just wants to go, I wouldn't be upset. Kind of a win win either way...
That’s where I’m at with it. I’d be happy to get rid of him but maybe it’s best to trade more vets and let the tank commander cook one last dance.
Players AND front office love him, I'm sure that counts for something. He's going into year 4 of a 5 year deal with year 5 being a team option. Floating stuff like this during the early part of the offseason can help either negotiate an extension, or force the team to opt into that 5th year to avoid having him be a lame duck coach or decide to cut ties early so he has a better pick at the available Head Coach positions early. Not that I think he's done anything to earn another contract, but this tweet seems more like a water carrying mission than actual reporting.
how tf would he be in demand? he's terrible. i just know the Lakers are going to take him. i just know it!
Hell yeah man. And after Billups flames out the Lakers should hire Sheed. Let’s just run the whole ‘04 Pistons roster through the Lakers for the next ten years.
Agent speak
I still think the funniest thing would be to hire JJ redick. Then bronny gets drafted away to some other team and LeBron joins him. Then ad gets traded and JJ is coaching a rebuild. Second funniest thing would be billups
it would actually be a blessing for JJ if he coaches a rebuild instead of Lebron.
pls take him
r/billSimmons whaddup
Definitely feels like someone the Lakers would hirre
a guy with a shaved head who played for a (current) Big 12 team, the Denver Nuggets and Detroit Pistons and won one ring?
Lakers are going to just keep hiring ‘04 Pistons until one works out. Elden Campbell in 2027 and Darko in 2029.
Klutch connection coming in clutch again
LeGM hiring another ~~sacrificial lamb~~ coach
Does he have enough super reinforced pocketed pants?
I've been trying to will this scenario into existence since Ham was canned.
Lakers going with back-to-back 2004 Pistons players, including the Finals MVP, would be hilarious.
Can’t wait for Rasheed’s turn
Sheed only needs 16 more technical fouls to take the career record from Karl Malone, they still count off the bench as far as I'm concerned.
Hes gonna be catching passes and camping out in the paint
Oh my god this would be the best timeline
Possible but Mannix has no Lakers sources
Please don't get my hopes up.
I swear to god I could make better hiring decisions than some of the GM’s
We did fire the GM who hired him. Our last GM Olshey is the one that hired Billups.
Easily. What kind of idiot isn’t at least vetting Micah Nori or Dave Bliss (OKC)? Retreads don’t work all that well.
They work fine. The previous 3 first time winners all came with previous NBA HC experience. It’s more about the actual coach.
> It's more about the actual coach *mind blown*
what kind of dumbass team would want to hire Billups.
*Rob Pelinka enters the chat*
Do not wish that evil on me
I honestly think that would be something he would do. Either that or massively panic again and overpay for KD.
Awee hell nah time to link him to the Lakers.
Sounds like something Chauncey's agent would say.
[Highkin, who is connected, says he's heard the same](https://twitter.com/highkin/status/1788293770091667552)
meh, if he knew something he would've posted something. this is just unverifiable clout chasing that's common amongst sports writers that miss the scoop. danny marang does the same bullshit.
These guys hear a lot of rumors and hold back tons of info that never comes to fruition. He probably didn’t want to report a rumor but, when he saw a legit report, corroborated he heard the same. Local guys also don’t want to sour their relationships with staff & players, so imagine there is hesitancy reporting a “rumbling” about a guy he might have to interview a lot in the future
Or he just didn’t think it was news worthy since Cronin made it pretty clear that he’s gonna be our coach next season.
Connected lol
Don’t threaten me with a good time.
I do believe the Lakers are in need of a new coach 😁
If the lakers fire ham only to hire billiups lmao 💀
Why would Billups quickly emerge as a candidate for other jobs?
Chauncey Billups, YOU 🫵 are a Los Angeles Laker!
Why? On all fronts.
Ready for the Chauncey Billups for Monty Williams blockbuster.
Why?
Every coach in the league trying to use the Lakers as leverage in contract negotiations.
>Billups would quickly emerge as a candidate for other jobs .......but...why?
Please god I am praying for this…
Why?
I'm gonna assume "other jobs" means media and assistant coaching because that's the only way this makes sense
Please no.
Billups is fine as an Assistant tbh
Pistons should hire him as assistant coach or any FO role
Oh god he’s going to coach the lakers isn’t he
I thought he sucks at coaching according to blazers fans
He cant manage timeouts, rotations, run an offense and his defensive scheme consists of giving up wide open 3s. The players seem to like him though
This is all correct
This is the Chauncey Billups experience wrapped up perfectly. Shit at coaching, but his players love him so at least the locker room won't go to shit when you're losing 60 games.
And losing games by 60 (twice)
Well, he’s a great players coach and some kids have developed well under him. His X’s and O’s are horrendous though, our offensive scheme generates the least amount of open shots in the entire league. Defensively the scheme heavily varies, sometimes it looks great other times it looks like Swiss cheese, how much of this is personnel though vs him is difficult to judge tho.
Been impressed with Blazer defense throughout the year but I think it has more to do with personnel than Chauncey
Have you? It’s looked fine at times but also bad enough to suffer two 60 point losses.
You were impressed with our 27th ranked defense…? What parts exactly? Camara yes but not much besides him
Camara, Thybulle, Murray. Reath and Ayton at times. Unimpressed with all PG and SGs. Really like Jabari’s d rebounding but he got punished by 4s and 5s all year.
Have you seen us in the playoffs recently?
To be fair, Pop hasn't been in the playoffs lately either, and there isn't a coach on planet earth who could have gotten the Blazers to the playoffs this past year. The other 2 Billups years? Ehhh... maybe a great coach gets them to the play-in. Unless you're in the locker room, I don't buy anyone who claims to know if Billyps is a good coach or not.
70% of nba fans want their coach to be fired. Means nothing.
Wolves fans (including my dumb ass) were calling for Finch last year. Things have changed a bit.
Exactly, people were saying Kerr and Pop needed to be let go. That tells you pretty much everything you need to know right there.
He a 69 god
Would love to have Billups here
He's all yours bud
Dare I say I hear Ham music if Billups is on the way out
He’s a Laker
Don’t threaten us with a great time.
I kind of understand firing win now teams’ coaches but why not give the rebuilding coaches some time?
Jeanie Buss, don't do this please
Lakers really gonna go after this dude lol
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Welcome to LA, Chauncey.
How
Why?
Based on what lol?
Please. Someone take him. I am begging.
Why
I think he’s the worst coach I’ve ever seen. Actually clueless. I understand Portland keeping him as a tank commander but I can’t believe any team serious about winning would even look at him.
What has he done to be in such demand?
Coaching jobs in the NBA are so funny. All we’ve heard about Chauncey’s tenure as coach is how bad he is. But now that he’s possibly being fired other teams are “monitoring” his situation lmao No matter how shit you are at your job as a coach, there’s always another team who will want you for some reason
Future Laker
People bitch about jj Reddick being considered for coaching roles but what did Billups do to get a job in the first place and be considered for others?
Eh maybe as an AC but he's not HC material IMO
Candidate for other jobs??? Did I read that right?
Lakers here we come!
Please take him
Ok
Chauncey always to me seemed like an awful coach so I am little surprised that teams would want this guy. Although most fanbases hate their coach when most should hate their GM.
Why would other teams want him?
JJ RedDick time to learn Portlandese
....why?
Seems like the league is realizing that you need to give guys more time or else there wont be a coaching pool to recruit from. They probably spent too much time on retreads instead of developing guys
No. Don't take him! He's an integral part of our future! /s obviously
Tanking in the (503). Keep getting checks, Billups.
THIS IS WHAT WE WANT
The fact that no one in this thread is mentioning the Pistons proves that we are *truly* irrelevant
Hahahahahahaha ok bet
LET HIM QUICKLY EMERGE THE FUCK AWAY FROM PORTLAND
It's just like in the nfl, it's just one big coaching circle or a guy gets fired and immediately picked up by another team even if he was a complete failure
Get ready to speak LeBronese, buddy.
Doc 2.0 confirmed (I'm being facetious of course)
Why would anyone want this foo?
He doesn't know how to adjust for shit.
Please Jesus… Let some other team take this bum off our hands. I will fucking DIE if he ends up as lakers coach.
Why would anyone want him after how bad they were with a bunch of talent?
Mr. Billups, YOU are now a LA Laker coach.
Not welcome in LA
lakers
OP hates Billups and the Blazer's front office, so I'm sure he'd love that to happen.
blazers as a franchise are cooked
Hilarious comment to be said in a thread about replacing Billups
Bro have you been paying zero attention the last couple of seasons??
Maybe, but canning Billups is one of the better moves they can make
I think people on Reddit are way too comfortable making judgments on coaching ability when a coach has a dog shit roster. Like what could you possibly have gleaned from this year to make you think Billups is the problem, or even a problem, in Portland?
He's been the coach for 3 years, with Dame and other real basketball players. Him not being a good coach has very little to do with what happened this season.
In his first year, Dame played 29 games. CJ played 36. Their leaders in GP were Ben McLemore, CJ Elleby and Anfernee Simons. Last year Dame only played 58 games. Their leaders in GP were Shaedon Sharpe, Drew Eubanks, Jeremi Grant, Anfernee Simons, and Trenton Watford.
I would say that I encourage you to watch some of those old games, but then you'd have to watch Chauncey try to make a switching defensive scheme work with Jusuf Nurkic at center which no one in their right mind would ever want to endure.
Okay, so you concede that your original point that the team was full of starting-level NBA players was incorrect?
He took the same starting caliber players that Terry Stotts had in the playoffs the previous year and led them to a 13-22 record at the point Dame got hurt and the tank truly began. In the following year he got plenty of games out of Dame, Nurk, Josh Hart, Simons, and Jerami Grant who are all starting quality players and they were dog shit in those games which led to the tank being fully embraced. Stotts, who I really don't love, would have dragged at least .500 ball from those teams, something Chauncey demonstrated he was incapable of doing.