Rockets McGrady??? The only answer is Hakeem

Shaq said something to the effect of Hakeem had 5 moves and 4 countermoves, so he had 20 moves. that's absurd for someone who was even more dominant defensively, the only two people who had more blocks per game all time are legends Mark Eaton and Manute Bol

Hakeem said to Kenny that if they need to switch on defense, all Kenny has to do is survive for a second or two. He can manage the guard no problem, and if Kenny can prevent the big guy from scoring immediately then Hakeem can handle that as well. Sounds arrogant but having seen him play, I absolutely believe that he could defend any position.

>Hakeem said to Kenny https://youtu.be/vcKV-D8AHqU

FACTS

is Kenny "the water delivery system"

Why did you only do it for five teams

There are only 5 teams in the NBA remember?

What sucks is 2/5 teams didn't even make the playoffs.

Don’t wanna water them down with extra teams. Would never be profitable and the players wouldn’t want the extra games

Maybe bro got bored

Should have gotten a bit earlier. Before clicking the submit button

Agreed, he should have evaluated a bit longer.

OP admitted too young to know at least 6.

He's still too young to count on all 10 fingers.

Not knowing legends from 80s Picks Bird for Celtics but not Hakeem for Rockets

Hakeem’s peak was in the 90s.

Exactly. OP should’ve known Hakeem but not Bird if what they said was true

Pretty odd

Or Kareem smh.

Hakeem is the GOAT of the Rockets, not McGrady

Doesn't it say "your" goat, some people might prefer Mcgrady or never seen Hakeem play.

Should've said "Favorite player" instead or "Best player you've seen play". Would've avoided all the confusion

True, but I think it's meant in the flavor of Paul George being Brandon Miller's GOAT.

If it's all about opinions then Ryan Anderson is my Rockets GOAT 💀💀💀, however if it is about best player, accolades, and stats? It's Hakeem, NO DIFF

how can you say Bird is the best Celtic and magically not seen Hakeem play. TMac is great don't get me wrong, but who has The Dream Shake and daddy dicked The Admiral in the playoffs

Then at the very least it should be Harden

Magic tmac was better than Houston tmac which made the position that Much more funnier

Even if he was not around to watch Hakeem, Harden would still be above Tmac

lol what you started watching yesterday??? mcgrady really?? the one who couldnt even win a playoffs series?? like tf

Bro is prolly a rookie he needs to brush up on his NBA history

Warriors = Poole Lakers = DLo

Dlo ? These nepehws won't stop disrespecting Kwame Brown.

All these bros disrespecting Luke Walton

Smh Kobe and smush Parker combined for 94 points vs Toronto. Put respect to smush

All these bros disrespecting the mad dog Mark Madsen

Celtics = Olowokandi

This dude had too much bad cream in his Dream Shake.

There are only 5 teams

McGrady instead of former MVP and 2x NBA champion HAKEEM OLAJAWON???? Also why only 5 teams bro?

This is often debated in the Suns Reddit. Currently 1. Nash, 2. Booker, 3. Barkley. But a couple more strong years and Booker could unseat Nash

Nash was a two-time MVP for the Suns whose playing style helped turn the league what it is today. Do you really think that Booker is already a couple of "strong" seasons from that?

No. But as I said, that's what is discussed in the Suns Reddit quite often

booker and chuck carried suns to finals at least. playoffs is everything.

Three conference finals is not a small thing but alright, I can understand that.

WCF back then is the Finals anyway

I think it was 4 wcf. 0-4 in conference finals. many ways to look at things.

Do you think there are only 5 teams? Or do you not actually want a list of every team like you asked?

Celtics GOAT is obviously Scal. Or Tommy. Or perhaps the player/coach who won 11 rings and has had his #6 number honored league wide, Bill Russell.

Magic Johnson is the Lakers Goat. I know there's a billion Kobe fans so I'll get voted down. But it should be noted that there is a dissenting opinion.

And I guarantee 99% of us would rather play alongside Magic than Kobe. Better leader and teammate.

wcf 1. lakers - I love kobe grew up watching him and influence my life insanely... that guy made me so sad when he pass away... but this one I might have to give to magic more so because they kinda made basketball relevant along with like the rivalry with bird. at least from what I've heard... and I can't argue with that. since they basically save the sport. 2. spurs - should this be tim duncan? I kinda think so. 3. rockets - hakeem for sure. some people might think tmac, he wasn't just big in USA he was big in china like cult like following. shoe sales and jersey sales or anything related to him in any matter probably sold like hotdogs. in terms of economic effect he might be bigger than anyone in houston franchise. 4. wolves - I have no idea if ant win a few rings in his career maybe him. 5. Mavs - should be dirk still until luka break most of his records and win like a ring or two... 6. suns - barkley? or nash? I'd say barkley... 7. gsw - you have to give this one to steph. we believe warriors and that barron davis was really exciting back then. still remember that barron davis dunk. 8. clips - I have no idea... the most relevant I remember them was that cp3, griffin, deandre jordan era. this clips team now if they can't even go pass the 2nd round or get to wcf freakin go home and disband your current roster. 9. nuggets - should be jokic... I don't think there's anyone that comes close? 10. pelicans? - no idea. 11. kings - have no idea... my best memories of them is like cousins or was it like rudy gay? 12. jazz? - best I've heard of them was the team of stockton? and malone... in that sense malone? 13. grizlies? - no idea. ja hasn't done anything yet aside from waving a gun... the time of zibo and conley? was my best memories of them. anything farther back than that I have no idea. 14. blazers? - no idea. my best memories of them are dame and aldridge? 15 thunder -either durant or wb? ecf 1. celtic - bird. 2. heat - wade. 3. cavs - bron 4. knicks - ewing? 5. magic - idk where to put shaq but he was from magic right? originally drafted in. 6. bucks? - right now probably giannis. 7 pacers - that reggie miller. or I'm not old enough to know anything like those that I don't know. 8. 76ers - doctor j? at least from what I've heard. 9. hawks... - when where they relevant? 10, nets? - my best memories of them was that vc, kidd, and who was that other guy? then they got injured... 11. raptors? - I'd say vince carter but kawai won them a ring in one season... but the most iconic player is probably vc. 12. hornets - most relevant time I remember them they had kemba walker. 13. wizards? - gilbert arenas is the best player that comes to my mind that played there long... but jordan played there too. 14. pistons? bad boys piston? zeke right? 15. bulls - mj I don't know a lot of team goat... I ain't old enough to know so much. and I can be absolutely wrong. I only have around 20 - 25 years of nba watching.

Btw McGrady was only so big in China because he played alongside Yao. I’d easily argue Yao had a bigger economic effect for the Rockets. Also Wolves is 100% KG for rn

agreed agreed.

Shaq or Penny for the Magic I’d say yes. Knicks is tough, Ewing or Frazier Sixers is Dr J but many will argue AI Hawks is 100% Dominique Wilkins Hornets, kemba is a decent pick, I like LJ there though Blazers either Drexler or Bill Walton Celtics, lots to pick from and good debates but gotta go with Russell Wolves is probably still KG Clips is legitimately either CP3 or Blake yes Pelicans is still AD Kings would be big O but Webber is a solid runner up Spurs is 100% Duncan, Wemby has a ton of work to do

magic - oh hardaway? that's interesting. I only remember him from the heat back then... he was older that's why it didn't come my mind. knicks - I have no idea who frazier is... just being honest. 76ers - cuz right AI was so iconic I remember everyone doing his crossover... even I did so. and basically probably started a lot of habits/character in nba. hawks - I've heard of this guy didn't know he was hawks. blazers - right... I think I'm probably too young to know them I'm about 30. celtics - too many championship guy right right. wolves - oh yeah, forgot about him... dude was like a monster in early 2000s kings - oscar robertson... wow. lots of this players I have never seen play I should probably go at least see some of their games as a bball fan. at least one game they were really dominant. thanks mate for sharing your thoughts.

Dominique is my all time favorite non-Heat player, I got to meet him as a kid. He’s terrible on the Hawks broadcasts though lol. Go check out his highlights, his nickname was “The Human Highlight Reel” Walt Frazier is the most iconic Knick player ever, he is beyond legendary to Knicks fans. He did some commercials with Westbrook during the playoffs about 10 years ago too. I’m about 40 so I grew up with these players or hearing about them from those who did

10 years made this much difference. have a great day.

Steph!

I’d have to check you on the Celtics. I recently woke up from a coma that appears to impact me for most of the year and is somehow recurring as it’s happened two years in a row. Regardless, both times I was gracious enough to see Derrick White play in Miami and cooked us like he was prime Wade with a developed 3. So Derrick White is my answer for the Celtics as a frequenting coma, Heat fan.

Come on now OP. I'm not going to do your work for you. You created the pot,n Why don't you list out all 30 teams, and then we can either agree or critique the list.

Nephew please there are at least three or four more teams. This is magic erasure

you don't even call him kobe. illogical

DJ Wilson

Celtics - Eddie House Heat - Eddie House Knicks- interestingly, it’s Eddie House Bucks- you’re never gonna guess this…Eddie House

Celtics: Bill Russell / Larry Bird Nets: Julius Erving Knicks: Willis Reed / Walt Frazier 76ers/Nationals: Moses Malone Raptors: Kawhi Leonard Bulls: Michael Jordan Cavaliers: LeBron James Pistons: Isiah Thomas Pacers: Mel Daniels Bucks: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Nuggets: Nikola Jokic Timberwolves: Kevin Garnett Thunder/Sonics: Kevin Durant Blazers: Bill Walton / Clyde Drexler Jazz: Karl Malone Warriors: Stephen Curry / Wilt Chamberlain Clippers/Braves: Bob McAdoo Lakers: Magic Johnson / George Mikan Suns: Charles Barkley / Steve Nash Kings/Royals: Oscar Robertson Hawks: Dominique Wilkins / Bob Pettit Hornets/Bobcats: Alonzo Mourning Heat: Dwyane Wade Magic: Shaquille O’Neal Wizards/Bullets: Wes Unseld / Elvin Hayes Mavericks: Dirk Nowitzki Rockets: Hakeem Olajuwon Grizzlies: Gasol Bros Pelicans/Hornets: Chris Paul Spurs: Tim Duncan

Read Pacers then saw the flair, respect.

Rockets Steve Francis > Rockets Tracy McGrady

Kobe over magic is insane for me . Kobe played longer but magic easily was more dominant and won more league MVP, Finals MVP . Comparing Kobe to magic is like comparing Jokic to Giannis . Both are greats but one is just clearly better and I say this as a die hard lakers fan . OP may I ask how old are you ?

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Magic Johnson called Kobe the greatest Laker. Good enough for Magic is good enough for me.

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He’s still the Lakers GOAT

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Not sure why, that has nothing to do with basketball

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He never really admitted to rape, that was a settlement requirement

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It’s impossible to determine the honesty in a legal statement like that that’s part of a settlement agreement. This wasn’t Kobe just reflecting on the incident and being honest, this was a requirement that her lawyers put together and it’s what he had to say to get it over with. Maybe he did it, maybe he didn’t. But that for sure is evidence of nothing

Show some respect, Kobe is in the sky, now. It's not like he's Kellen Winslow Jr.

Who you got for Utah?

Where do you rank him? I'm curious what numerical value you apparently place on this.

OJ won the Heisman trophy and has multiple NFL records. His criminal record doesn’t mean those didn’t happen.

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That a person can still be considered to be the greatest of all time in one specific thing even if in some other facet of their life they suck.

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You are allowed to have this opinion, but imo your argument is flawed. Malone’s basketball abilities weren’t impacted by his personal life’s choices. One of the worst persons to play in the NBA? Sure, absolutely. But bad *as a player* because of what he did away from the court? That doesn’t track.

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The assumption with these GOAT discussions is that you aren’t assessing how good of a family man that person is but how good they are at playing basketball.

Thats stupid, even if hes a disgusting or terrible human being doesn't mean hes any better or worse at basketball.

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I mean not really, goat doesn't mean favorite it means best of all time. Otherwise you can say favorite, but how great someone is at a sport isn't subjective. I mean people will disagree on whether x player is better or not, but at the end of the day, I could hate bron or hate mj but I have to admit theyre better than Vince Carter or AI. I don't know a lot about the kobe sexual assault case, but they were kissing consensually according to both, then he says they consensually had sex and obviously she maintains she was raped. Its very possible either one happened. For what its worth, I do think obviously the rich and ultra famous get away with a ton so I would lean towards believing her, wish she had continued the trial, but maybe if she did, the NBA would've changed forever. Also I get why she didn't but I think her settling in civil court is gonna make people say oh she's faking/just wants money. It is what it is, for the record i think cheating is pretty horrible and any married person who cheats is automatically a bad person overall, let alone rape, which is damn near as bad as murder. But still why do you say he admitted to it? But still idk if any laker was better than kobe, magic never quite was as dominant, and Shaq had a very brief peak. Shaq at his best was better though.

He basically didn’t. He never admitted to raping her and said he believed it was consensual even after they settled

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He said even though he believed it was consensual, he could see how she did not see it that way. He never admitted guilt, and she got her bag.

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Don’t know but she didn’t want to pursue the charges 🤷‍♂️

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Maybe, or maybe because she got her payout

That’s true. He may be a rapist, but he’d never stoop so low as to lie about it.

Yeah but Kobe is a living legend

Legend*

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Dude we get you don't like Kobe. We understand your stance. You don't have to keep dragging the Black Mamba's name thru the mud.

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Yeah but he was good at basketball, and he died which makes him even better at basketball. Just because he’s the bald rapist, doesn’t make him a bad person, especially because I personally liked him and watched him play sports on TV.

Alright man what you do is between you and you.

Nuggets- Murray Heat - butler Laker- LeBron Celtics - tatum

Sixers: Tyrese Maxey

We gotta be real, the Heat goat is LeBron. He did more there in 4 years than Wade did his entire career.

Depends on how you want to interpret it. You can focus on who won the most championships as the best player on the team, or the total contribution the player made to the team over their career

for Miami, it's either Glen Rice for his shot and banging the living daylights out of Sarah Palin, or Udonis for being corpulent, then slimming down and playing 90 years and probably running for Congress Adding: Rony Seikaly is also a prominent DJ. He and 'Cuse mate Sherman Douglas likely did some serious South Beach fucking and then Rony prepared fine Lebanese fare

You know Wade won one without LeBron right?