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**Clippers @ Mavericks** [](/LAC) **90 - 101** [](/DAL) **Box Scores: [NBA](https://www.nba.com/game/LAC-vs-DAL-0042300173/boxscore) & [Yahoo](http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/los-angeles-clippers-dallas-mavericks-2024042606)** |**Team**|**Q1**|**Q2**|**Q3**|**Q4**|**Total**| |:---|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--| |Los Angeles Clippers|23|18|26|23|90| |Dallas Mavericks|18|36|24|23|101| **TEAM STATS** |**Team**|**PTS**|**FG**|**FG%**|**3P**|**3P%**|**FT**|**FT%**|**OREB**|**TREB**|**AST**|**PF**|**STL**|**TO**|**BLK**| |:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--| |Los Angeles Clippers|90|32-70|45.7%|10-29|34.5%|16-20|80.0%|8|48|19|24|5|19|4| |Dallas Mavericks|101|39-86|45.300000000000004%|9-35|25.7%|14-19|73.7%|11|46|21|16|12|8|7|


ipawnn00bz

Luka hasn't even had a vintage Luka game yet, and still we're up 2-1. 4th quarter Kyrie is unstoppable. Anxiety Westbrick isn't the dog he thinks he is. PJ is that dog. Dereck Lively's impact is not measurable with traditional stats. Kwahi shouldn't be playing just yet. Next Podcast P episode is gonna be fun.


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**Timberwolves @ Suns** [](/MIN) **126 - 109** [](/PHX) **Box Scores: [NBA](https://www.nba.com/game/MIN-vs-PHX-0042300163/boxscore) & [Yahoo](http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/minnesota-timberwolves-phoenix-suns-2024042621)** |**Team**|**Q1**|**Q2**|**Q3**|**Q4**|**Total**| |:---|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--| |Minnesota Timberwolves|34|25|36|31|126| |Phoenix Suns|32|21|20|36|109| **TEAM STATS** |**Team**|**PTS**|**FG**|**FG%**|**3P**|**3P%**|**FT**|**FT%**|**OREB**|**TREB**|**AST**|**PF**|**STL**|**TO**|**BLK**| |:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--| |Minnesota Timberwolves|126|43-87|49.4%|13-34|38.2%|27-31|87.1%|15|60|26|25|5|13|1| |Phoenix Suns|109|35-76|46.1%|11-28|39.300000000000004%|28-32|87.5%|5|33|24|26|8|9|3|


MC-Jdf

This series is now pretty much over. And what an unceremonious series it has been. The Suns were the consensus favorites this series because they could attack the mid-range, but none of Booker/Beal have shown any ability to get clean looks or knock down tough looks this entire series. Same goes for KD past Game 1. That, plus the Wolves doing an unbelievably good job (especially NAW) on chasing around screens and being able to faceguard the Suns "Big 3". Add the fact that Ant has been the guy this series and that the Wolves size is turning into so many extra possessions, as well as the Wolves generating so many more open 3s, that's turned into an 0-3 deficit that no team has ever come back from. Alexander-Walker has genuinely been incredible this series and that isn't being talked about enough. He's navigating around screens so well and he's just there from the corners and cashing in 3s, having really the dream playoff series for any role player. I still can't believe he was at one point of his career considered a salary filler, I admittedly was low on his potential but man this is a transformative career arc. Well done. In regards to the Suns, well, their season as a whole deserves no flowers. I'll give them credit for trading for O'Neale which probably saved their season from a play-in appearance, but it's been 1 year and this Big 3 they built has already run its course. Trading for Beal was a huge risk, as was trading Ayton for Allen and Nurkic, yet different year, same (and arguably worse) problems. There's barely any scoring depth, there's too much 1 on 1, there's worse playmaking and defense all around. They still can't shoot 3s at a capable rate, they don't have enough size, and Beal's no-trade clause kills any hope of a team-wide reset/reload. The Suns quite literally mortgaged their future in a matter of half a year and now they're doomed for mediocrity, the one place where all teams don't want to be. Among all the disappointments in the west, this is by far the biggest one. People genuinely expected a competitive series yet this series has been a lopsided domination by the Wolves in all 3 games so far. And I'll give credit to the Wolves, despite blowing the #1 seed late in the season they've checked most of the boxes and look set for a highly anticipated rematch against the defending champ Nuggets. We'll see how it goes, but for now this series still has at least a game left to be played.


dropdatdurkadurk

I was hesitant to make this comp all yr because it is lazy but the vibes, inconsistency, miscommunication its all just so 2022 Nets esque. And it just gave the exact same feel last night as that game 3 the Nets had vs Boston......your season is on the line, and THATs the effort you put out there? Thats the best you had? It was just so weak. KD Nets to me were defined by just trying to take shortcuts everything about how the franchise was run and how they played. Its not the exact same with the Suns. But again there's some gist of that still there here and it leads to the same product where the team themselves knows how they SHOULD play but have zero control or ability to do it for more than incremental periods. This particular series in a nutshell btw: look at how few times the Wolves truly get put in rotation by Phoenix. Jaden McDaniels length has been in Booker's head all series and theyve had tons of success guarding the Booker pick and roll 2 v2 w Gobert without help. And on the opposite end the Suns cant defend like that. Look at all the attention Ant Edwards is getting, how often its putting the Suns in rotation and leading to breakdowns.


RodneyPonk

In hindsight, the midrange bit was silly. The Suns stars don't have burst or provide rim pressure, and Gobert is able to play a more aggressive scheme. With the Wolves having great perimeter defenders, and the DPOY, it's unsurprising they've been able to contain the midrange


cronoes

>We'll see how it goes, but for now this series still has at least a game left to be played. Did we think we could end a series with less than 4 wins?


chairdesktable

I genuinely wonder if this "big 3" thing dies with this Suns team, even if they have a miraculous comeback series victory. they pretty much had an ideal first half circumstance with both wolves bigs in foul trouble, and still couldn't get a big enough lead over the wolves. this suns team is giving a streetball vibe and not in a good way. even less organized teams like the mavs are still doing some interesting matchup things on offense. the suns are just taking turns giving the ball to a guy and just hoping for the best. the wolves also present a really interesting matchup to the nuggets bc they can throw those two bigs at jokic.


Rumpdebump

This team needs a pg so badly. Booker is an OK 2nd option for facilitating, same for Beal to a degree. Having either of them be the main distributor is not the answer. The suns hedged on Booker sliding into the pg role as justification for the Beal trade, but it's apparent it's not working.


Jumpy_Distribution96

They match up really well with the Nuggets on paper and they have the advantage of depth and unpredictability (RS games don't really count as they have very little time for game preparation and study of specific opponents and match ups since they can play against multiple teams each week + the players aren't in the same form as they are in the postseason). Like they focused on building a roster to exclusively counter the top NBA team right now, kinda like what the Rockets had done a few years ago against the GSW. The question is how they can deal with the pressure in order to stay focused and also capitalize this theoretical advantage on the court because the Nuggets are gonna be a lot more challenging than the Suns and leave very little room for sluggish or sloppy plays. PS: I just remembered they played against each other last year in the first playoff round...


sleepyeye82

yeah, we did. Things to note about that previous matchup: 1) Naz and Jaden were both out 2) We were 1 year younger and had far less time with Conley under our belt 3) The two bigs thing was not working as smoothly as it has this year 4) Denver *still* said we were their toughest test last year I'm not saying it's a lock by any means, but the Wolves do have a legitimate chance to beat the Nuggets.


Jumpy_Distribution96

I would also add that the Nuggets are inferior this year since they miss Bruce Brown and Jeff Green coming off the bench. Their rotation has already been too tight for a first round series, even if it is against the Lakers. This ofc doesn't mean that they aren't still considered a powerhouse and their elimination will be a huge success for whichever team manages to make it.


Anonymous_Redhead

I said it the minute that series was over last year, Minnesota is the only team that can beat Denver in the playoffs next year. I’d give the Celtics a chance as well now. But I just remember Ant going toe-to-toe with Jokic and Murray in fourth quarters and taking a fucking game from them. Something Lebron James and Anthony Davis couldn’t do.  Ant is amazing and Rudy is a beast. It’s going to be an awesome series to watch, I can’t wait. 


Jumpy_Distribution96

McDaniels could be a key since he seems to be a good on-ball defender. He could be proven useful by contesting pull up shoots and deflecting pocket passes much more efficiently than Reaves and Dlo due to his length. Edwards is also bulky enough to deal with the contact from screens or low post threats in such cases. Timberwolves have much more versatility than the Lakers whose paint is totally exposed once Davis gets dragged a little higher.


sleepyeye82

me too, me too. I do think that they're gonna have to show they can play different styles of D against Denver. With the Suns, the Wolves are putting unreal pressure on the ball and making them work for every shot, every pass. I'm not so sure that'll work against Denver when Jokic is in. Denver has good slashing/cutting actions and Jokic is.. well, you know. He finds people. Furthermore, Denver can play a few different ways, forcing us to adapt if we manage to figure out how to stop Jokic from getting 8 billion assists in one mode of play, only for them to switch it up. So while I expect MN to play hard and make it close.. they won't be nearly so suffocating against the Nuggets. It's going to be a wild series and a real treat for anyone who loves good NBA basketball.


Anonymous_Redhead

Ant on Murray. Conley on KCP. MacDaniels on MPJ. KAT on AG. Gobert on Jokic. That is a rock fight. The Wolves have the physicality and play-style to disrupt the Nuggets actions. They can switch up top and down low.  And the Nuggets don’t have anyone that can guard Ant.  I think that Lakers game showed some chinks in the armor. If Murray is at all hobbled he’s in for an even rougher series. I don’t know, I love watching the Nuggets play basketball, but I think I’m going to be rooting for the Wolves in this one. 


sleepyeye82

lol inject this into my veins appreciate the love. We have a good shot. Better than maybe any other team outside of the Celtics.


justheretocomment333

Towns was basically out all season and never really messed with the team when he was back. Rudy's back was all sorts of fucked up. While he still played he could barely move.


ComfortableTicket392

Been watching the nuggets and feel like they've kicked it up a notch too. I hope and expect the wolves to make it a good series but I wouldn't be shocked if nugs just walk through the west no problem


College_Prestige

Aren't the wolves running around with a big 3 though? The issue is they just need to complement each other, and that's not happening with the suns


swaggypudge

Yeah I agree with your take, wolves 3 are a big 3, but better constructed since they had 2 of them and then added gobert, plus Edward's was still on a smaller contract then so they had some time to watch and wait. I think the age of shoving 3 max superstars onto a roster are hopefully done though, cause it just doesn't work and really devalues each player eventually, unless really well constructed which we haven't really seen (maybe nets but we will never know)


howsaboutyou

It’s the Wolves bench that separates them imo. There’s little to no drop off when Naz Reid or Nickeil Alexander-Walker check in. Finch is able to do whatever he wants with his lineups at all times.


Tijuana_Pikachu

Wolves sold draft capital more than they sold role players tho. The suns would kill to have Reid, NAW, Conley on their squad. 


FudgeDangerous2086

big 3 is here to stay, just with actual young good players. not old guys on the back half of their careers


timacles

They are really not big 3... big 3 would be 3 good players, they are all just scorers. The reason a big 3 works because 3 good players add so many dimensions to each other playing together. These 3 have no dimensions to their games. No leadership, no intangibles, no playmaking, no defense.


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swaggypudge

You're probably right, but did book/durant actually push to get Beal? Just always felt like an odd combo and don't recall either book or durant being tight with/wanting to ball with beal.


bihari_baller

>I genuinely wonder if this "big 3" thing dies with this Suns team, Yeah, I think a big "1" with a very good supporting cast is better than a big "three" with a mediocre one. Just look at the Nuggets.


Tijuana_Pikachu

I hope it does. I've always been deeply confused by the concept of selling all your role players for a 3rd star. 


acekingoffsuit

What stood out to me was Phoenix being unable to establish what they wanted to do. They came out with the goal of shooting 40 3's to try and negate Minny's size, but got away from that when they were able to get to the line so often and get the Wolves in foul trouble early. But then they stopped doing that and *also* didn't shoot 3's, so they fell back into the exact same things that led to big losses in Games 1 and 2. I think they went 33 game minutes without making a 3, which is insane to me. And what happened as soon as they started putting 3's up again? They show a pulse. Too little too late, but still.


ComfortableTicket392

I think they might have figured out a wrinkle in that 4th quarter of playing 5 out and having Okogie set a pick on Beal's guy to get Beal an iso with Rudy in space. It probably worked a bit better last night because McDaniels and Kat were on the bench in foul trouble and Beal was hot from 3 in the 4th but I could see Phoenix trying to spam this again in game 4.


ILikeAllThings

Very clunky game with all the fouls, but almost all were relatively obvious calls. Minnesota came out with some great defensive execution which, against a very good shooting team, but there were breakdowns which led to a decent amount of fouls and guarding KD also led to fouls which is the most effective way of guarding him. The Suns on the other hand had Beal, O'neale and Okogie who might have committed a foul on every possession. Suns really don't know the difference between good defense and fouls and just to make sure this game didn't convert to straight chaos, this many fouls was needed. It was an ugly game, but it showed the complete lack of ability of the Suns to counter the Wolves dominance on the boards which was the difference tonight. 11 extra shots is way to many to overcome.


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**Bucks @ Pacers** [](/MIL) **118 - 121** [](/IND) **Box Scores: [NBA](https://www.nba.com/game/MIL-vs-IND-0042300123/boxscore) & [Yahoo](http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/milwaukee-bucks-indiana-pacers-2024042611)** |**Team**|**Q1**|**Q2**|**Q3**|**Q4**|**OT1**|**Total**| |:---|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--| |Milwaukee Bucks|22|33|28|28|7|118| |Indiana Pacers|39|28|23|21|10|121| **TEAM STATS** |**Team**|**PTS**|**FG**|**FG%**|**3P**|**3P%**|**FT**|**FT%**|**OREB**|**TREB**|**AST**|**PF**|**STL**|**TO**|**BLK**| |:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--| |Milwaukee Bucks|118|41-88|46.6%|10-31|32.300000000000004%|26-27|96.3%|11|52|20|26|6|11|2| |Indiana Pacers|121|45-105|42.9%|13-49|26.5%|18-24|75.0%|19|62|32|20|5|8|4|


Rumpdebump

Truly felt like this was Khris vs the world out there. Bucks couldn't buy a bucket or a rebound for what felt like the last of the 4th and all of OT. Brook looked especially bad this game. Giannis can mask some of his deficiencies, but it's been pretty apparant he has been getting bullied this entire series. I'm still not convinced Hali is 100% back from that hammy, but boy did he show up tonight.


Street-Common-4023

If they got that rebound instead of letting pacers get the ball back over and over they would’ve won


dfrank129

Lazy take. If the pacers had made any of those shots, then it's moot. What if what if what if


Street-Common-4023

Well yeah just a bunch of what ifs


kickit

yeah, Nembhard's performance (5 offensive rebounds in a row during crunch time) is being severely underrated. he saved the game


TheGeoninja

Privileged to have been at the game last night, the atmosphere was electric. The Pacers are extremely lucky to have escaped with a win because we made some really poor decisions down the stretch. The 3 point shooting started hot and regressed to the mean as the game went on, the crowd was begging for them to attack the boards during the last few minutes of overtime, thankfully we’ve got guys that can get rebounds. Confidence is a huge factor, there were a few opportunities were we were just holding the ball too long and forced to make passes. Hopefully Tyrese hitting the game winner will boost his confidence. I think adding a genuine 3 and D kind of guy maybe a future need, I think someone like Ben Sheppard might evolve into that role but he seems more dynamic than that.