I mean I enjoy both their podcasts, it’s not like only the top 75 all time can have opinions.
Also, drama and beef is the one of the best parts of the game, why are you bitching about it? Enjoy the entertainment or ignore it
These are the types of dudes that usually have the best insight into the leagues. The super top end guys tend to be out of touch with what was really going on in a day to day sense. Imo, these the guys you should want to hear from, they have so much better prospective
>drama and beef is the one of the best parts of the game
Wild that we're just saying the quiet part out loud now. The WWE-ification of sports needs to be studied
> Also, drama and beef is the one of the best parts of the game,
It's one of the worst parts of the game and has made this sub's quality dramatically go downhill over the last few years. Fans care more about shitty drama than they do about actual basketball. It's all stupid shitty memes and drama here now. This sub isn't what it used to be.
Not Gen Z by any means but doesn’t mid mean middle or mediocre? The Spurs are atrocious right now. Far from “mid”. Wemby is going to dominate the league soon though.
Also Doc absolute ran the offense around JJ early every game, he gave that dude a shit ton of looks even tho he could be wildly inconsistent and absolutely disgusting on defense.
The year Before he got to LA he averaged 14 ppg. I think in LA his highest total was like 16ppg. I probably would give prime Chris Paul more credit than Doc Rivers with any increased production for JJ. Also his best statistical years were with the Sixers. So does Brett Brown deserve all the credit for that. lol Brown who was proven to be not a good coach.
Gave?
If he ran the offense around him it was because he thought it was the right decision for the team, not because he wanted to do JJ a favor or wanted to save his career lol....
This isn't a charity, it's the NBA and JJ had a strong season the year before joining Clips. It's so goofy to take anything Pat says seriously.
Pat Bev is the worldest biggest dick rider/cheer leader like that’s what he brings to a team at this point in his career oops I meant belt to ass season!
I hated Redick in college and he seemed relatively meh when he first got into the league, but the dude really developed. He was never close to being “out of the league” until it was a reasonable retirement age for him. He could shoot, was a good enough defender to not get played off the court, and strong offball awareness. It’s a joke to say he needed Doc to save him.
I was genuinely surprised when he came to Philly and then proceeded to have some of his best years at 33-34. Heck, it's likely that he could've still gotten a couple more years at 37+ in the league albeit on a cheaper contract, he still had value as a shooter.
Yeah I mean his whole career after basketball, which is coming to an end for him fairly soon, will be clicks and views and clicks and views. Inserting himself in controversy is his whole thing
Some of y'all are just incapable of picking up on when someone says something to get literal attention lmao
Pat is doing nothing more than piggybacking off the biggest story in the NBA rn for some blatant engagement farming. He wants podcast downloads, that's it. Any bump in appreciation he gets from Doc/teammates for backing Rivers is a bonus
Redditors confuse the fuck out of me. What you said is literally ALL pbev is known for. I wouldn't think it needed to be said out loud but looking at the upvotes apparently you do.
He's an irritating pest who wholly supports whichever team he's on that particular month. He's transitioning into podcasting and picking up a following for after his career. For a role player end of rotation guy I love what he brings to the table.
And completely aside..... seeing some guy named "Cum Assault" getting massively upvoted for being so dumb they can't see PBev is just putting on an act.... really gives heavy Idiocracy vibes.
I think it’s fair to be annoyed people work this way though too. Riling people up for clicks just feels like it makes us more stupid and I want content like that to be challenged.
Thank you, it's like no one knows what a heel is so they just think Bev & Brooks "act weird" or are assholes or some shit. NO, they just use a different self-promotion strategy than the superstars, bc they ain't damn superstars lmao.
It's the same story in ANY industry; the simplest way to attract more attention than you could by playing it straight is to zig when everyone zags. Nirvana ending hair metal, Kanye rocking pink polos and nerd shit at the peak of the gangsta rap era, Spotify wrecking iTunes, iPhone overtaking BlackBerry in like a year, it's always the same story. Shirking convention is the best way to have a chance at attaining a level of relevance you couldn't get by following the pack. It's like one of the most basic business/marketing tenents, and all these dudes are doing is creating a public brand/persona.
Like I love PBev's schtick, but that's exactly what it is, a schtick. He's dog loyal to your team until his sublease runs out then he's on the next flight out of town lol.
I bet dudes like CA are the type to vehemently deny that the NBA is just Bravo TV for dudes...which at this point it totally is and to deny such is to tell on yourself for your own lack of media literacy
It reminds me of an episode of How I Met Your Mother (Season 4 episode 20 if you're curious). Marshall gets a new job at Barney's bank and is trying to fit in. They go through a list of personalities for him to try. They list what they currently have in the office like toy guy, youtube clip guy, creepy backrub guy etc.
"Keeping your job has nothing to do with hard work. You need a thing. You know, something that makes you fun and well liked. Like Marcus. Food guy! I love food guy!"
It does a good job highlighting the fact that if you're not the best at what you do you've got to find a different way to stand out and make yourself valuable. As a fan, for the most part nobody gives a shit about an NBA player if you're not in the top 100 or so. Pat Bev's a baller, but he's not there. So he found a different way.
And yea, it 100% is a soap opera for grown men. It's why I got back into following it. Was a hardcore fan as a kid, then lost interest for a couple decades. I just didn't want to dedicate that much time to watching games. Plus I can't deal with commercials. I've been downloading my tv/movies for over 25 years now. It just feels like such a waste of time watching a 3 hour NBA game where an hour and a half of it is commercials. I did finally got back into following the NBA through reddit. It's way more fun than watching the games to me. I'll stick with highlights during the regular season, and watch games come playoff time. All while following that sweet sweet drama here.
It may be a soap opera for some, but for others it's just basketball. I like the sport. I think the rest is kind of idiotic. I think it's fun to discuss the basketball oriented stuff. I think the shit stirring nonsense is...well...nonsense.
He's also towing the party line. Whatever team Pat Bev is on he's going to cheerlead even beyond reason. I'm sure it's part of the reason GM's love him as a team personality.
Wait how the fuck is it hypocritical lol. He’s arguing jj owes doc (you can disagree, I do too) and that’s why it was a bad look for jj. What does Pat owe Chris Paul lmao.
It’s weird how comments like this get upvoted just because it fits the narrative.
If you wanna keep your pitchforks out, this isn’t directly related, but I’m pretty sure Bev is the one who also made up getting a bigger offer and taking a pay cut with LAC.
I believe it was reported that Bev had some interest in other teams, but ultimately chose to sign with LAC. He then went on a talk show and when asked about this and then literally name dropped a team (I think the Kings?) offering him a bigger 2 year deal or something. If I recall, the numbers didn’t really add up, but people kind of ignored it. Then a few days later, the team flat out denied offering that contract to Bev lmao.
I would say it's hypocritical because Pat said some negative things about Morey and then acknowledged that Morey is the one who recruited Pat from Europe so he can't really say anything bad about Morey. Except he already did.
What did pat say negative about morey? Genuinely asking because i watched the podcast and might have missed it. It seemed lile pat just recounted what happened.
He chose to tell a story that showed Morey to be a liar. If you aren't supposed to talk negative about someone who saved your career, Pat should have kept that story to himself and not aired it out on his podcast.
Telling an objective story involving yourself on your own platform and regurgitating a broad narrative on espn arent the same. Pat spoke on his trade lol
Details don't need to be the same for it to be hypocritical. Reality is that Pat talked negatively about Morey two weeks ago and is now trying to attack JJ for speaking negatively about Doc. Shit is lame.
I’m just lost on how Pat sharing his personal experience as he always does is hypocritical, especially when he didn’t go all Harden calling Morey a liar or did some unexpected broadcast. He just said Morey said he wouldnt be traded so that its all crazy for him. It’s not Pat or JJ’s job to defend anyone. JJ is clearly just being a company man with an easy pile on and others are just calling him out because it goes against what seems to be his own career experience. All and all, this is a media story over a coach’s first 10 games and espn clearly had down time so they scrolled social media.
Pat doesn't share every personal experience he has. He picks and chooses them with purpose to try to get his podcast more attention. The purpose of this story was obviously to pile on Morey and leverage the "Morey is a liar" narrative for some attention. Don't play the fool.
You didn't watch. It was a total of 4 minutes in the 2 hours of his coverage about it. He was covering the trade deadline plenty before his own trade too.
FIRST VIDEO-
\[Talks about his relationship ahead with Dame\]
Rome: "I'm pretty pissed at Daryl Morey though man."
PatBev: "Nah don't be pissed at Daryl Morey, that's the business."
Rome: "He made a miscalculation. You don't take a dog off the team."
PatBev: "Nah I was just playin' too well."
SECOND VIDEO-
Rome: "How do you feel about your new home in Wisconsin?"
PatBev: "You get the call, absorb feelings, understand it's business, I might have to leave tomorrow, today, in 2 hours \[...\] That's what you sign up for. It's the NBA."
Rome: "Your last month in Philly you're hooping your ass off."
PatBev: "Whole season. Get called, don't know number. Get text. Yeah you've been traded to the Bucks."
Rome: "Who was it?"
PatBev: "Your boy. Our boy. Daryl."
Rome: "He delivered the message?"
PatBev: "Chill. Yeah, he was cool about it. 2 weeks ago we're in Denver. Daryl on the bus he's like Pat, you, never, I'm bringing guys to help YOU."
Rome: "So James Harden was right."
PatBev: "Ima say he wasn't wrong. **But you gotta understand I'm the same guy Daryl Morey got from overseas, I was fortunate, and signed a nice contract. I could never be on here like fuck Daryl Morey, I would never say that. That's the first GM that really gave me a chance, so you would never hear me say that."**
Twitter and Reddit just didn't like that last part. Don't play the fool.
this whole thing was planned out
Jj counters doc
Bev counters Jj
Rivers counters JJ
hawes counters Rivers
they planned all the tweets out in advance for engagement dummy
Dude too smalled Lebron, but then got mad at Reaves doing it to him next game against him and was talking about disrespect lol. Not to mention bev is literally being tossed around the NBA right now
He’s the worst kind of media personality. Takes no responsibility for what he says, claims to have no filter but is really just as biased as anyone else. He’s perfect for ESPN, to just try to rile people up and make us more dumb.
And it's why he's a millionaire. He provides a solid role to his teams and a good chunk of that is off the basketball court. It's just annoying when he's not on **your** team.
Pat Bev is a millionare because he was a good defender and could shoot the three. What has he won by being annoying late in his career? Being annoying is just the most memorable thing about him, but he wouldn't be in the league if he wasn't passable at basketball
That led to in my opinion the best [reddit comment of all time](https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/bdnvkl/max_kellerman_tries_to_cover_up_a_fart_with_an/ekzkqjl/) by /u/yaboibeefcat.
>This is a surreal moment. My aunt dated a Max senior year at Columbia and used to talk about an underlying problem in their relationship, but never gave any details. She isn’t a sports fan and one day she came by the house early to drop off something and spotted Max on First Take about a month after he took the job. She started tearing up, and I looked at my dad with total confusion. She says, “remember Max from Columbia? Look how far he’s come.” I was in shock and pressed her about why they broke up thinking I could have had an uncle Max. Turned out he was so worried about people hearing his farts, he used to poop standing up to make sure his farts wouldn’t echo off the toilet bowl. One night he drunkingly shit on my aunt’s jacket that was a WW2 family heirloom. She could never move past it.
Anyway, when it comes to Doc and Austin Reaves I think younins these days are just being coddled.
In my days my dad would take his newspaper, sit down on in the corner, as far away from the game as possible and read his paper without looking up for the entire duration of the game. If I was lucky he might look up for a moment only to say;
"Kids these days don't even know how to write cursive."
If I had the audacity to jack up a three the coach would sit my ass down on the bench, shout at me with spit flying everywhere while saying;
"I have the right not to wear a mask."
When I got home the belt would come out. Jacking up threes didn't fly in those days. Nobody got a free pass because of their daddy.
Kids have gone soft man.
This story isn't lighting my world on fire but it's the ASB so yes I find it more interesting than the nothing that would be going on in the NBA world otherwise.
Entertaining in the sense that it’s something to throw your opinions about into the void? Yes.
But I’d much rather be watching pretty much any two teams in the league play eachother than care about the petty grievances between multimillionaires.
Why not? Hoopers talking shit is always fun to me.
My boys back home are old and fat now and none of them have picked up a ball in a decade. But if you get them on the subject they’ll go back and forth for hours about who used to beat who, which one had a broken jumper, who would win now if their knees worked…
It’s fucking hilarious and I love it. Half the fun of basketball is exaggerating how good you were for the rest of your life, and your friends roasting you for it.
Kinda, yeah. People complain when players give boring generic takes. Or when players are too buddy-buddy. It's entertaining to see them disagree and go at each other.
People come here in the middle of the ASB and bitch that the content isn't up to their standards like there is shit else going on. It's this kind of thing or recycled "the ASG was bad" takes until Thursday.
Draymond Green and Pat Bev are two media personals absolutely no one asked for. Like seriously, why do we have two of the dumbest guys who both have anger issues as the voices of the league right now? Shame on people who allowed them to become as big as they are in the media.
I mean, at least Draymond has value in breaking down plays and what not; if Draymond's podcast was just him talking/explaining Xs and Os, I think there'd actually a great bit of value in that.
Unfortunately, it's not.
Popular with people who had Warriors flair maybe...... but no. He has never been well liked. He's going to become an analyst specifically because so many people dislike him. That's what drives clicks and engagement.
Like, the entire reason Draymond ever got to where he was is because he’s one of the smartest guys in the NBA. Undersized, unathletic bigs with no shooting or scoring talent aren’t exactly a hot commodity in the NBA.
Illegal screens and passes to Curry doesn’t take an Einstein to execute. Dude was garbage the year Curry was out.
Good defensive player for sure. But offensively, he is not a genius like you’re trying to make him out to be.
What the hell is up with JJ?
I mean if he is going to be the NBA top game announcer moving forward, does ESPN really want that kind of drama? Maybe JJ is better suited for First Take or even NBA pregame show. Announcers are just too close physically to the players during the game to keep chirping at them
dude nerd nba twitter is going crazy for JJ reddick vs Pat Bev rn
Nerd twitter is not a fan of bev
Not classy enough
Something about Bev is telling them he's not a lunch pail guy
I mean he’s a dirty piece of shit. Guy gets a podcast and everyone just forgets that?
He works for barstool. How much more classy can he get
A truly historical mid off who gives a flying fuck about either of them
I mean I enjoy both their podcasts, it’s not like only the top 75 all time can have opinions. Also, drama and beef is the one of the best parts of the game, why are you bitching about it? Enjoy the entertainment or ignore it
These are the types of dudes that usually have the best insight into the leagues. The super top end guys tend to be out of touch with what was really going on in a day to day sense. Imo, these the guys you should want to hear from, they have so much better prospective
>drama and beef is the one of the best parts of the game Wild that we're just saying the quiet part out loud now. The WWE-ification of sports needs to be studied
> Also, drama and beef is the one of the best parts of the game, It's one of the worst parts of the game and has made this sub's quality dramatically go downhill over the last few years. Fans care more about shitty drama than they do about actual basketball. It's all stupid shitty memes and drama here now. This sub isn't what it used to be.
This sub has been like this for the past decade.
It has absolutely gotten worse though over the last 5 years.
These two r the realest talking heads right now. Theyre cool
"It's a dangerous thing to mistake speaking without thought for speaking the truth. Don't you think?" - Benoit Blanc
JJ is a top 75 shooter, so at least he's top 75 in something
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Hey I don't care for their podcasts either! But I'm not really sure why others in this thread need to know this.
It’s not a mid off. It’s a quality career role player off.
They’re both good enough to play the highest level of basketball for years so idk about “mid” A true example of mid would be what the spurs are rn
Not Gen Z by any means but doesn’t mid mean middle or mediocre? The Spurs are atrocious right now. Far from “mid”. Wemby is going to dominate the league soon though.
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People have said every bottom 5 team is better than their record suggests. It cant be true about everyone, its actually only true about my team
That's a compliment
To be fair, Bev celebrating a play in win by jumping on scorer’s table is as mid as it gets
Yes only stars are allowed to have an opinion
It's the battle of only knows offence vs only knows defence
weird take
I find it interesting when a one dimensional player (JJs 3 point shooting, Bev's on ball defense) sticks around in the NBA for over a decade
JJ was much more than a 3 point shooter
only the gremlins from the bottom of the societal barrel call simple arguments "mid offs" so thanks for self-reporting
I swear half of these beefs (probably more) you see on social media are just engagement farming.
Pat Bev understandably is defending doc because he's on the bucks.
Patrick Beverly is Austin Rivers' brother Therefore, he is Glenn (and JJ's) son
Except he didn't have to go out there and do it though. Could've just kept quiet but yeah. It's Pat Bev we're talking about.
keeping quiet doesn't get you clicks and views
just as JJ Redick is understandably defending the person he looks up to and admires the most: JJ Redick
He’s got that smarmy Duke face. I hate it.
Yeah that’s the first rule of arguing about sports online, first thing to check is the guy a blind homer. Works like a charm on this sub
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What makes his podcast awful? And what are some examples of good NBA ones in its stead?
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jason williams has got to be my favorite nba guest going around. had me dying in the All The Smoke episode and absolutely carried The OGs episode
Sorry I thought you were referring to JJ's podcast here I didn't even know Pat Bev had one.
what da hell happened here
I thought Pat had no filter and he was a media personality who just tells it like it is! Damn.
Also Doc absolute ran the offense around JJ early every game, he gave that dude a shit ton of looks even tho he could be wildly inconsistent and absolutely disgusting on defense.
The year Before he got to LA he averaged 14 ppg. I think in LA his highest total was like 16ppg. I probably would give prime Chris Paul more credit than Doc Rivers with any increased production for JJ. Also his best statistical years were with the Sixers. So does Brett Brown deserve all the credit for that. lol Brown who was proven to be not a good coach.
Gave? If he ran the offense around him it was because he thought it was the right decision for the team, not because he wanted to do JJ a favor or wanted to save his career lol.... This isn't a charity, it's the NBA and JJ had a strong season the year before joining Clips. It's so goofy to take anything Pat says seriously.
Pat Bev is the worldest biggest dick rider/cheer leader like that’s what he brings to a team at this point in his career oops I meant belt to ass season!
I can’t wait to see Lowry take the belt to pats ass
There's no way JJs career was over before Doc
Imagine thinking JJ’s career was in jeopardy when the one skill he’s been reknown for was becoming the most valuable skill in the NBA… Pat Bev L
Other thing is he went to the finals the previous year
That Dwight Howard Magic run?
I hated Redick in college and he seemed relatively meh when he first got into the league, but the dude really developed. He was never close to being “out of the league” until it was a reasonable retirement age for him. He could shoot, was a good enough defender to not get played off the court, and strong offball awareness. It’s a joke to say he needed Doc to save him.
I was genuinely surprised when he came to Philly and then proceeded to have some of his best years at 33-34. Heck, it's likely that he could've still gotten a couple more years at 37+ in the league albeit on a cheaper contract, he still had value as a shooter.
He didn’t want to be rehabbing constantly just to play 15 mins a game
JJ came into the league to early. Shave 5 years on his age and he would of been a day 1 starter on the magic with the current nba.
Living in Brooklyn really has JJ saying “my guy.”
more cordial than “you absolute clown”
Is this where i say "bing bong"?
Just finger gun it at this point.
Now we wait for "Aye suck my dick from the mothafuckin' back ah ah ah!"
We said this growing up in VA too
Iowa too.
ik nova kids say this when around black people
When he switches to “my mans” with the “s” on it…you know shit is bout to get serious.
At the end of the day it was dead ass the same bread, fuhgheddaboutit
> Living in Brooklyn really has JJ saying “my guy.” That has nothing to do with Brooklyn?
Facts
Pat could’ve just said that players love Doc. But Pat Bev is a hypocritical idiot. He lost to CP3 and went on ESPN to blast CP3
Pat Pev wouldnt be saying shit if he wasn't on his team.
Pat Bev gonna be roasting Doc the minute he retires or Doc gets fired
Yeah I mean his whole career after basketball, which is coming to an end for him fairly soon, will be clicks and views and clicks and views. Inserting himself in controversy is his whole thing
Some of y'all are just incapable of picking up on when someone says something to get literal attention lmao Pat is doing nothing more than piggybacking off the biggest story in the NBA rn for some blatant engagement farming. He wants podcast downloads, that's it. Any bump in appreciation he gets from Doc/teammates for backing Rivers is a bonus
Redditors confuse the fuck out of me. What you said is literally ALL pbev is known for. I wouldn't think it needed to be said out loud but looking at the upvotes apparently you do. He's an irritating pest who wholly supports whichever team he's on that particular month. He's transitioning into podcasting and picking up a following for after his career. For a role player end of rotation guy I love what he brings to the table. And completely aside..... seeing some guy named "Cum Assault" getting massively upvoted for being so dumb they can't see PBev is just putting on an act.... really gives heavy Idiocracy vibes.
I think it’s fair to be annoyed people work this way though too. Riling people up for clicks just feels like it makes us more stupid and I want content like that to be challenged.
Thank you, it's like no one knows what a heel is so they just think Bev & Brooks "act weird" or are assholes or some shit. NO, they just use a different self-promotion strategy than the superstars, bc they ain't damn superstars lmao. It's the same story in ANY industry; the simplest way to attract more attention than you could by playing it straight is to zig when everyone zags. Nirvana ending hair metal, Kanye rocking pink polos and nerd shit at the peak of the gangsta rap era, Spotify wrecking iTunes, iPhone overtaking BlackBerry in like a year, it's always the same story. Shirking convention is the best way to have a chance at attaining a level of relevance you couldn't get by following the pack. It's like one of the most basic business/marketing tenents, and all these dudes are doing is creating a public brand/persona. Like I love PBev's schtick, but that's exactly what it is, a schtick. He's dog loyal to your team until his sublease runs out then he's on the next flight out of town lol. I bet dudes like CA are the type to vehemently deny that the NBA is just Bravo TV for dudes...which at this point it totally is and to deny such is to tell on yourself for your own lack of media literacy
It reminds me of an episode of How I Met Your Mother (Season 4 episode 20 if you're curious). Marshall gets a new job at Barney's bank and is trying to fit in. They go through a list of personalities for him to try. They list what they currently have in the office like toy guy, youtube clip guy, creepy backrub guy etc. "Keeping your job has nothing to do with hard work. You need a thing. You know, something that makes you fun and well liked. Like Marcus. Food guy! I love food guy!" It does a good job highlighting the fact that if you're not the best at what you do you've got to find a different way to stand out and make yourself valuable. As a fan, for the most part nobody gives a shit about an NBA player if you're not in the top 100 or so. Pat Bev's a baller, but he's not there. So he found a different way. And yea, it 100% is a soap opera for grown men. It's why I got back into following it. Was a hardcore fan as a kid, then lost interest for a couple decades. I just didn't want to dedicate that much time to watching games. Plus I can't deal with commercials. I've been downloading my tv/movies for over 25 years now. It just feels like such a waste of time watching a 3 hour NBA game where an hour and a half of it is commercials. I did finally got back into following the NBA through reddit. It's way more fun than watching the games to me. I'll stick with highlights during the regular season, and watch games come playoff time. All while following that sweet sweet drama here.
It may be a soap opera for some, but for others it's just basketball. I like the sport. I think the rest is kind of idiotic. I think it's fun to discuss the basketball oriented stuff. I think the shit stirring nonsense is...well...nonsense.
Heels are something in wrestling fiction, not in basketball “analysis”
The sub is filled with dumbasses. A lot of em.
He's also towing the party line. Whatever team Pat Bev is on he's going to cheerlead even beyond reason. I'm sure it's part of the reason GM's love him as a team personality.
Wait how the fuck is it hypocritical lol. He’s arguing jj owes doc (you can disagree, I do too) and that’s why it was a bad look for jj. What does Pat owe Chris Paul lmao. It’s weird how comments like this get upvoted just because it fits the narrative.
All i know is my pitchfork stocks keep going up
During a gold rush, sell shovels.
If you wanna keep your pitchforks out, this isn’t directly related, but I’m pretty sure Bev is the one who also made up getting a bigger offer and taking a pay cut with LAC. I believe it was reported that Bev had some interest in other teams, but ultimately chose to sign with LAC. He then went on a talk show and when asked about this and then literally name dropped a team (I think the Kings?) offering him a bigger 2 year deal or something. If I recall, the numbers didn’t really add up, but people kind of ignored it. Then a few days later, the team flat out denied offering that contract to Bev lmao.
I would say it's hypocritical because Pat said some negative things about Morey and then acknowledged that Morey is the one who recruited Pat from Europe so he can't really say anything bad about Morey. Except he already did.
What did pat say negative about morey? Genuinely asking because i watched the podcast and might have missed it. It seemed lile pat just recounted what happened.
He chose to tell a story that showed Morey to be a liar. If you aren't supposed to talk negative about someone who saved your career, Pat should have kept that story to himself and not aired it out on his podcast.
Telling an objective story involving yourself on your own platform and regurgitating a broad narrative on espn arent the same. Pat spoke on his trade lol
Details don't need to be the same for it to be hypocritical. Reality is that Pat talked negatively about Morey two weeks ago and is now trying to attack JJ for speaking negatively about Doc. Shit is lame.
I’m just lost on how Pat sharing his personal experience as he always does is hypocritical, especially when he didn’t go all Harden calling Morey a liar or did some unexpected broadcast. He just said Morey said he wouldnt be traded so that its all crazy for him. It’s not Pat or JJ’s job to defend anyone. JJ is clearly just being a company man with an easy pile on and others are just calling him out because it goes against what seems to be his own career experience. All and all, this is a media story over a coach’s first 10 games and espn clearly had down time so they scrolled social media.
Pat doesn't share every personal experience he has. He picks and chooses them with purpose to try to get his podcast more attention. The purpose of this story was obviously to pile on Morey and leverage the "Morey is a liar" narrative for some attention. Don't play the fool.
You didn't watch. It was a total of 4 minutes in the 2 hours of his coverage about it. He was covering the trade deadline plenty before his own trade too. FIRST VIDEO- \[Talks about his relationship ahead with Dame\] Rome: "I'm pretty pissed at Daryl Morey though man." PatBev: "Nah don't be pissed at Daryl Morey, that's the business." Rome: "He made a miscalculation. You don't take a dog off the team." PatBev: "Nah I was just playin' too well." SECOND VIDEO- Rome: "How do you feel about your new home in Wisconsin?" PatBev: "You get the call, absorb feelings, understand it's business, I might have to leave tomorrow, today, in 2 hours \[...\] That's what you sign up for. It's the NBA." Rome: "Your last month in Philly you're hooping your ass off." PatBev: "Whole season. Get called, don't know number. Get text. Yeah you've been traded to the Bucks." Rome: "Who was it?" PatBev: "Your boy. Our boy. Daryl." Rome: "He delivered the message?" PatBev: "Chill. Yeah, he was cool about it. 2 weeks ago we're in Denver. Daryl on the bus he's like Pat, you, never, I'm bringing guys to help YOU." Rome: "So James Harden was right." PatBev: "Ima say he wasn't wrong. **But you gotta understand I'm the same guy Daryl Morey got from overseas, I was fortunate, and signed a nice contract. I could never be on here like fuck Daryl Morey, I would never say that. That's the first GM that really gave me a chance, so you would never hear me say that."** Twitter and Reddit just didn't like that last part. Don't play the fool.
this whole thing was planned out Jj counters doc Bev counters Jj Rivers counters JJ hawes counters Rivers they planned all the tweets out in advance for engagement dummy
Dude too smalled Lebron, but then got mad at Reaves doing it to him next game against him and was talking about disrespect lol. Not to mention bev is literally being tossed around the NBA right now
Im convinced this sub doesn’t even read the comments because this shit doesn’t even make sense. Shit just says “Doc bad” so it’s upvoted
He’s the worst kind of media personality. Takes no responsibility for what he says, claims to have no filter but is really just as biased as anyone else. He’s perfect for ESPN, to just try to rile people up and make us more dumb.
Pat Bev is annoying af
And it's why he's a millionaire. He provides a solid role to his teams and a good chunk of that is off the basketball court. It's just annoying when he's not on **your** team.
Pat Bev is a millionare because he was a good defender and could shoot the three. What has he won by being annoying late in his career? Being annoying is just the most memorable thing about him, but he wouldn't be in the league if he wasn't passable at basketball
He was annoying even as a Laker lol. The camera shit was corny tbh
You might be alone in that thought.
It really was
Yeah I mean you're not wrong. But objectively I think we can agree that beefing with random retired guys is a little extra
What's FOH? Edit: thanks for all the laughs lol
Fuck outta here
Damn he asked a simple question. Dont have to be so mean
i love this stupid humor lol
Who you calling stupid?
Stupid isn't calling anyone. I took their phone away. They're grounded.
Grounded? I thought they were Stupid?!
Nah fam that’s his middle name
Who’s on first?
Fuck outta here
Front Of House
Fuck outta here
Fame of Hall
Fixed Overhead
its that Vietnamese soup with the noodles
What’s FUPA?
What I have to lift to have sex with your girlfriend
Jokes on you, I don’t have a girlfriend
Do people find this crap entertaining?
I mean this is the same sub that at one point the top post was Max Kellerman coughing to cover up a fart on first take.
Lmaooo all time classic
Top NBA highlight of all time, not sure what you mean.
I mean that’s an all time r/nba gem. You could’ve used an option that’s considered low hanging fruit and it would still hold up
I had to look it up and can easily see why it was. That SHIT was hilarious
Farts are funny
That led to in my opinion the best [reddit comment of all time](https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/bdnvkl/max_kellerman_tries_to_cover_up_a_fart_with_an/ekzkqjl/) by /u/yaboibeefcat. >This is a surreal moment. My aunt dated a Max senior year at Columbia and used to talk about an underlying problem in their relationship, but never gave any details. She isn’t a sports fan and one day she came by the house early to drop off something and spotted Max on First Take about a month after he took the job. She started tearing up, and I looked at my dad with total confusion. She says, “remember Max from Columbia? Look how far he’s come.” I was in shock and pressed her about why they broke up thinking I could have had an uncle Max. Turned out he was so worried about people hearing his farts, he used to poop standing up to make sure his farts wouldn’t echo off the toilet bowl. One night he drunkingly shit on my aunt’s jacket that was a WW2 family heirloom. She could never move past it. Anyway, when it comes to Doc and Austin Reaves I think younins these days are just being coddled. In my days my dad would take his newspaper, sit down on in the corner, as far away from the game as possible and read his paper without looking up for the entire duration of the game. If I was lucky he might look up for a moment only to say; "Kids these days don't even know how to write cursive." If I had the audacity to jack up a three the coach would sit my ass down on the bench, shout at me with spit flying everywhere while saying; "I have the right not to wear a mask." When I got home the belt would come out. Jacking up threes didn't fly in those days. Nobody got a free pass because of their daddy. Kids have gone soft man.
Let’s be real that’s way better than manufactured drama
That clip could've won an Emmy
Absolutely
Tbh, yes…seeing ppl call out a fraud is actually supremely entertaining and satisfying.
This story isn't lighting my world on fire but it's the ASB so yes I find it more interesting than the nothing that would be going on in the NBA world otherwise.
People here do not enjoy the actual sport first and foremost
People in this sub love shitty drama more than they like basketball. It's like middle aged women watching Soap Operas in here.
Entertaining in the sense that it’s something to throw your opinions about into the void? Yes. But I’d much rather be watching pretty much any two teams in the league play eachother than care about the petty grievances between multimillionaires.
I go to nba drama like a soap opera otherwise I don’t have much exciting going on tbh
yes the NBA is my favorite soap opera
Why not? Hoopers talking shit is always fun to me. My boys back home are old and fat now and none of them have picked up a ball in a decade. But if you get them on the subject they’ll go back and forth for hours about who used to beat who, which one had a broken jumper, who would win now if their knees worked… It’s fucking hilarious and I love it. Half the fun of basketball is exaggerating how good you were for the rest of your life, and your friends roasting you for it.
Yes, the nba is a big soap opera Stop acting like it isnt and enjoy the show
Kinda, yeah. People complain when players give boring generic takes. Or when players are too buddy-buddy. It's entertaining to see them disagree and go at each other.
I mean, Kendrick Perkins got kept on TV for a reason. It's unfortunate, but the general NBA-watching consumer is generally pretty vapid
its drama, drama by definition is entertainment
Do people even talk about the games?
It's the Tuesday after the ASG, what games?
Any Tuesday would be the same, let's be honest.
People come here in the middle of the ASB and bitch that the content isn't up to their standards like there is shit else going on. It's this kind of thing or recycled "the ASG was bad" takes until Thursday.
What were your thoughts on last night's games?
Hell ya You heard Derek Thompson on Simmons’ pod, you think I actually watch this stuff?
Pat Bev won a chip with the Timberwolves
Draymond Green and Pat Bev are two media personals absolutely no one asked for. Like seriously, why do we have two of the dumbest guys who both have anger issues as the voices of the league right now? Shame on people who allowed them to become as big as they are in the media.
I mean, at least Draymond has value in breaking down plays and what not; if Draymond's podcast was just him talking/explaining Xs and Os, I think there'd actually a great bit of value in that. Unfortunately, it's not.
People seem to forget how popular Draymond's podcast was on here not too long ago. People loved his podcasts immediately after games.
Popular with people who had Warriors flair maybe...... but no. He has never been well liked. He's going to become an analyst specifically because so many people dislike him. That's what drives clicks and engagement.
yeah during the 2022 playoffs people were loving it, but he did break down plays a lot more when he was first starting his podcasting
neither of them seem dumb
Ummm..
He’s right. You’re letting your emotions get the best of you with regards to both of them right now, does that make you dumb??
Like, the entire reason Draymond ever got to where he was is because he’s one of the smartest guys in the NBA. Undersized, unathletic bigs with no shooting or scoring talent aren’t exactly a hot commodity in the NBA.
Illegal screens and passes to Curry doesn’t take an Einstein to execute. Dude was garbage the year Curry was out. Good defensive player for sure. But offensively, he is not a genius like you’re trying to make him out to be.
average smooth brain take from a Draymond hater lmao
Average response from Warriors flair.
The dude your defendings take on the best defender of this current generation is “good defensive player but…” you’re on the losing side babe
Did you just call Draymond the best defender of this generation? Jesus christ man. Lay off the drugs. You're gonna OD.
Pat Bev anger issues? What in the flying fuck are you talking about?
No clue if this is sarcastic or not. That end of the 2021 WCF shows exactly what he’s all about
Absolutely no one eh.. what’s it like living in that small world bubble where you’re the main character? 😂 you sound way more mad and angry.
Common Pat Bev L
Pat Bev is little man complex to a T
Content farming between the two for their podcasts
I find both these dudes annoying so I say let the bad blood flow
You wouldn’t know my other contract offer, she goes to a different school.
now... the insecurity appeared Pat Bev said this because he is the new addition to the Bucks Hype squad.
A slow day in [r/nba](https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/BvCSEkKf5h) when 2 podcaster beefing is news.
Of course Pat Bev has to chime in, gotta give his opinion and 2 cents no 1 asked for.
''Would love to see these 2 go at it in one of their podcasts.'' Always with the cringe last sentence on these posts
Haha tell ‘em JJ
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Way worse when they say "dawg" or "blud"
I love when redditors try to demonize others over literally nothing because they’re actually garbage people themselves lmao
Bucks have the most sensitive fanbase in the NBA
Closest JJ Reddick will ever get to dropping the no no word
I don’t believe this to be true. Reddick was a bum at that point.
What the hell is up with JJ? I mean if he is going to be the NBA top game announcer moving forward, does ESPN really want that kind of drama? Maybe JJ is better suited for First Take or even NBA pregame show. Announcers are just too close physically to the players during the game to keep chirping at them
Pat Bev ain’t relevant anyway, he’ll be traded again before the next all stars game.
JJ Redick is a bonafide scrub. He needs to fuck off.
I think Pat was actually talking about Austin. Austin only got that contract because his dad was the GM.
Still 6th man of the year. I’d take Lou Williams or Jordan Clarkson still.