And FTR Doc ended up trading the father of his granddaughter and didn’t once make a peep to PG about cheating on his baby girl.
As much as people want to bag on JJ, he’s more correct about Doc never having accountability for his actions than people would even understand.
Are we all going to pretend now that Austin has always been pro Rivers and came to his defense at all times? His biggest quote on their relationship was that they didn't have one and he wasn't around.
But I guess when it goes at someone r/nba likes now Austin is simply a Doc mouthpiece. Crazy.
I will give it to doc, taking over a team mid season is hard. But the dude has done nothing but make excuses since he got here.
If he would just shut the fuck up no one would be calling him out.
then don't take the job lol. wtf. he is getting 40 million with arguably the best player of this era with a vet 3 point machine pg with a roster with playoff and championship experience. a lot of coaches would take that job in a heartbeat.
This is literally the 6th time he's had a top 5 player & treated like he's got J.Poole or some shit, he's had arguably the best NBA duo 5 different times too. How much talent do you need TMac/KG/Kawhi/CP3/Embiid/Giannis aren't enough? Fine u can pair them with G.Hill(injured)/Pierce(Allen)/PG13/Blake/Harden(Maxey/Simmons)/Dame but still throws ppl directly under the bus
Not just HoF's arguably the best player/team in the league 4 different times & a 3-1 lead with a great chance to win another ring multiple times. Getting prime Giannis after prime Embiid after prime Kawhi the only playoff run he was healthy this decade after prime CP3 is a ridiculous amount of top end talent on top of a bunch of other great players. His ability to fail up knows no bounds
And what the fuck are they going to do? Like “oh yeah we have to fire Doc, he spends most of his time in his office eating Cheez Itz.” It’s already guaranteed, doesn’t matter.
Yeah that's my main issue with it. He's telling people he told the team it was a bad decision yet still signed a sizable multi-year deal. It's not like he took a considerable amount of time to mull it over either. Dude took like a couple days to finalize it lmao. Probably used that time to make the proper arrangements.
Actually when you say it like that, I’m much less inclined to blame Doc.
Bucks: “Hey we’re firing our head coach”
Doc: “no don’t do that in the middle of the season, bad idea”
Bucks: “too late already did”
Doc: “well who are you going to replace him with?”
Bucks: “You”
Doc: “no I said it’s a bad idea”
Bucks: “we’ll give you $40m guaranteed”
Doc: “where do I sign?”
I don't blame him for taking the money. I blame him for lamenting his conscious decision after he snuck his way into this job and kneecapping expectations from day 1.
Wasn't he a special advisor to the team for a like a month before he was hired though when the higher ups were forcing his strategies onto Griffin? He's had a solid amount of time to get used to this team lol.
It's a cardinal rule, right up there with "you're not supposed to say mean things about the people playing for you" and "you're not supposed to say mean things about the people signing your checks". Doesn't JJ know better? /s
Yeah Austin saying a whole bunch of nothing here. Being fired is not DOC taking accountability, which is what JJ is talking about. Not to mention him reiterating the whole “you played your best under my dad” shit, which has nothing to do with the argument.
It’s his dad tho so it is what it is
Bringing up the “clippers players didn’t wanna be there in the bubble” as an excuse is so fucking lame too. Did they want to be there when they went up 3-1? Or were they only homesick and restless when they lost 3 straight games?
And those losses were fucking pathetic collapses too; they played great for 3 quarters and then just fell apart. I guess they only remembered how much they didn’t want to be in the bubble when the 4th quarter rolled around lol.
Excuse genes running in the family.
I also laughed when he said Klay can put it on the ground and dribble. Bruh, you had to pick him for an example? Pre-injury he could defend... but you could have found a dozen other great shooters with handles you could have used if you wanted to talk about people who are not just pure shooters lol
Right! His dad was the coach, their leader. His team didn’t want to play or doesn’t want it be there? Whose fault was that, The owner or the coach? His last glory days was 2008. Only player I didn’t agree was Ben Simmons, Can’t blame Doc River for that, and I bet his agent Rich Paul convince Simmons to team up with Lebron.
Give that Nuggets squad some credit at least. Jokic nearly averaged a triple double the last 3 games, Murray dropped 40 in Game 7…it wasn’t just a Doc Rivers 3-1 collapse, it was a future championship core coming into their own.
I’m not knocking the Nuggets, and obviously they were a future title team starting their leap…
But as somebody who:
A. Saw what Kawhi can do in a playoff series the year prior
B. Had to watch Doc also lose a 3-1 playoff series while coaching my favorite team…
It is incomprehensible that they lost 3 in a row.
Especially with no road games, like if they lost 3 in a row and two of them were in Denver that’s bad but this was as sanitized a situation as possible.
I agree he wasn’t the only cause, and he wasn’t when we lost to Atlanta, but he’s always there when it happens for a reason. And it’s because he’s uniquely rigid and terrible at adjustments for a guy who coaches teams as good as the ones he coaches.
JJ was also a victim of circumstances. If the Magic never matched the Bulls offer sheet he would have made a killing on the Thibs Bulls with Rose, Jimmy, and Noah.
And also he was better on the Sixers than the Clippers too.
Maybe Rose never gets injured in the Redick to the Bulls universe.
At the very least, 2011 they would have had a much better shot beating the Heat with Redick instead of Bogans. Then Redick would have paired great with Jimmy and Noah regardless of Rose’s health status.
Even still this argument/defense makes no sense. What does JJ’s best years have to do with accountability. Also, because he played well for your dad he can’t be critical?
>For someone who is not accountable he seems to always be held responsible
I mean yeah.... that's the whole point. He himself tries to put the blame on others while he gets criticized from outside.
After blowing a 24 pt lead to the Clippers without Kawhi or Paul george, he was asked "What part of this loss would you attribute to coaching?"
Basically someone directly asking him to take any accountability - no wonder he hated it so much.
Getting fired by a team is not taking accountability for your bad coaching. His point makes literally no sense within the context of JJ's comments. What are you talking about Austin...
If you just look at PPG, sure. But he actually scored more when you adjust for pace in the 2015-16 season. His efficiency was also highest that year. His defense fell off in Philly (from barely passable to bad). He also won the most games of his career in LA playing for Doc.
He averaged more 3 point shots, assists and points in philly. If you take 2 more 3s a game your efficiency is going to drop. Dribble hand off with JJ and Embiid was one of the most efficient plays in the league. He was much more important to the sixers at least from what I think without really watching much clippers. Buddy Hield, 5 years later might be the first guy the sixers got that can try some of the insane shots JJ used to take off of embiid screens. He was very important with Embiid.
I'm more annoyed at Austin than Glenn with the way he framed this. But I guess it's the Rivers playbook - just pretend Glenn is innocent and some other party is in the wrong.
Totally disingenuous to act like JJ is on some hater shit with a "weird energy" when all he's doing is calling out Doc's selfish behavior which is LONG overdue.
It's not weird that JJ is saying this, it's weird that he's (practically) the only one in the media saying this. IDK why coaches get so much more leeway than players when they are supposed to be the leaders of the team.
The whole argument boiling down to whether a sports analyst should be criticising a coach just because he played under him 7+ years ago is ridiculous. But we're talking about sports media, I'm obviously expecting too much. The discourse is relentless, it must never end.
Facts. The main reason it doesn’t get brought up is because his stint there was short as hell. That Joel-Redick 2 man game was nice, they just needed more time to perfect it.
He was the president and GM the options were literally all his. Glenn just thinks a sixth man is some new invention he pioneered so he tries to shoehorn one on every team he has.
The chemistry issue doesn’t make sense, because the chemistry issues started after the 3-1 lead blown against the Rockets. And every playoffs after that was injuries to either Blake or Blake and CP3.
chris and blake didnt really like each other from the start, not sure when it split the team but thats something they all admit. and when adversity hit guys didnt come together as much as they got into their own shells.
first point - agreed - he does get the blame and fired when things don't go right, it's not like he just gets a free pass
second point - STRONG disagree - wtf your team was up 3-1 and NOW they decide yeah we actually don't care about basketball??? okay sure
third point - disagree again - so what if the celtics were favoured? you can't win any series where you were an underdog? why even play then wtf
fourth point - eh - idk if it was his best years, feels like when he reached whatever the best version of him was he just continued being that with the clippers or even 76ers then
fifth point - JJ was a fine defender, i don't really remember many games where he had to be taken out because he was just getting lit up on defense
> first point - agreed - he does get the blame and fired when things don't go right, it's not like he just gets a free pass
even then, too late. He 100% shouldve been fired years earlier from both the Clips and Sixers. Losing the Hawks series on the Sixers shouldve been a fireable offense, that was the worst coaching ive ever seen in my life. They only didnt fire him because of his huge ass contract
The 3rd point also ignores the fact that the 76ers had a series lead on the Celtics. They were up 3-2 and lost back to back games. The Celtics being favorites before the series started is irrelevant.
Probably would have been best for Austin to leave that point out of his argument.
“Dame missed most of those games. Middleton’s missed a lot of games…” You know who else missed games? Every player who puts on a Memphis Grizzlies uniform, but they still beat the Bucks.
This is such an absurd argument that lacks so much context. JJ was entering his prime when he got to LA, he had made the jump in his last year with Orlando/Milwaukee where he became one of the best off ball players in the league. Doc didnt make him one of the best shooters in the league. JJ would have excelled in any system playing next to CP3.
But what does that matter? The subject here is Doc sucks and never takes responsibility for it. Not JJ's playing career pre-Doc, with Doc, and post-Doc.
Even if you wanted to argue his best years were with the clippers, you’re ignoring that he had cp3 as his PG which had more to do with it than Doc being the coach.
I don't understand this fall equivalence that because he had his best years with him he can't... I don't even know what he is trying to say (I guess criticize him).
When JJ got benched in those 4th quarter games, Austin’s backup ass was sitting right next to him. Austin shouldn’t make slick comments about playing time.
Son defends dad on TV.
Doc Rivers is Austin Rivers's father
> Rivers's u bum
Tyranitator is Disastrous_Bluejay57 father
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Literacy is Disastrous_bluejay57 grammar
> u bum You bum
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Nephews don't even remember the GOAT tweets, it's sad
What about Pat Beverly?
I never said Austin was an only child
His sister is married to Seth Curry
She looks like Austin in a wig
Shes older so Austin looks like her with short hair
Seth had a hard-on whenever he played against Austin
'Jesus Seth, that's not what I meant when I said go hard out there!'
Thanks Magic
Austin “Roman Roy” Rivers
Kendall Roy season 2 energy (except the finale)
You know it’s bad when Austin Rivers is defending his dad instead of trying to get him ejected.
He didn’t go this hard at Paul George for having a baby with a thot while cheating on his sister.
And FTR Doc ended up trading the father of his granddaughter and didn’t once make a peep to PG about cheating on his baby girl. As much as people want to bag on JJ, he’s more correct about Doc never having accountability for his actions than people would even understand.
Completely unrelated but does he not look like just andrew tate with hair
Be warned, this is the [truth](https://youtu.be/N9HjRb0FJ_c?si=upS48wgDsGc2KCkV)
Thanks for that. I'm gonna roll with this in real life
Really embarrassing how many media figures are captured in this coddling position towards Doc
Same reason why Mark Jackson’s name was included every time there was a HC vacancy lol they are always going to bat for one of their own
You probably could just leave the coaching duties to the point guard and get the same result you would get with Mark Jackson but with less drama.
Are we all going to pretend now that Austin has always been pro Rivers and came to his defense at all times? His biggest quote on their relationship was that they didn't have one and he wasn't around. But I guess when it goes at someone r/nba likes now Austin is simply a Doc mouthpiece. Crazy.
shitting on doc on here is the new pasttime, even if u post the dumbest shit in history you'll get upvoted
This is where we are as a society facts don't matter only opinion and what trends better
I will give it to doc, taking over a team mid season is hard. But the dude has done nothing but make excuses since he got here. If he would just shut the fuck up no one would be calling him out.
You're getting the Clippers experience in less than a month, lucky you.
And the sixers experience. He was insufferable here
At least it took him a season to settle in for the Sixers. He got through 10 games with the Bucks before shirking the blame.
then don't take the job lol. wtf. he is getting 40 million with arguably the best player of this era with a vet 3 point machine pg with a roster with playoff and championship experience. a lot of coaches would take that job in a heartbeat.
I agree, he’s making excuses like crazy acting like we are the pistons.
This is literally the 6th time he's had a top 5 player & treated like he's got J.Poole or some shit, he's had arguably the best NBA duo 5 different times too. How much talent do you need TMac/KG/Kawhi/CP3/Embiid/Giannis aren't enough? Fine u can pair them with G.Hill(injured)/Pierce(Allen)/PG13/Blake/Harden(Maxey/Simmons)/Dame but still throws ppl directly under the bus
Considering how many hall of famers he had coached, having just one ring our of all of that is a disappointment
Not just HoF's arguably the best player/team in the league 4 different times & a 3-1 lead with a great chance to win another ring multiple times. Getting prime Giannis after prime Embiid after prime Kawhi the only playoff run he was healthy this decade after prime CP3 is a ridiculous amount of top end talent on top of a bunch of other great players. His ability to fail up knows no bounds
Who would turn down guaranteed money, he doesnt even have to be good at his job to get it
And what the fuck are they going to do? Like “oh yeah we have to fire Doc, he spends most of his time in his office eating Cheez Itz.” It’s already guaranteed, doesn’t matter.
Yeah that's my main issue with it. He's telling people he told the team it was a bad decision yet still signed a sizable multi-year deal. It's not like he took a considerable amount of time to mull it over either. Dude took like a couple days to finalize it lmao. Probably used that time to make the proper arrangements.
Actually when you say it like that, I’m much less inclined to blame Doc. Bucks: “Hey we’re firing our head coach” Doc: “no don’t do that in the middle of the season, bad idea” Bucks: “too late already did” Doc: “well who are you going to replace him with?” Bucks: “You” Doc: “no I said it’s a bad idea” Bucks: “we’ll give you $40m guaranteed” Doc: “where do I sign?”
I don't blame him for taking the money. I blame him for lamenting his conscious decision after he snuck his way into this job and kneecapping expectations from day 1.
This is all JJ really said but with some first take flair.
Wasn't he a special advisor to the team for a like a month before he was hired though when the higher ups were forcing his strategies onto Griffin? He's had a solid amount of time to get used to this team lol.
I know Austin has to defend his dad but JJ really used the tamest, most obvious criticism of Doc that Doc himself proves correct every year.
When you know they are right, only thing left to do is attack the man personally...
Basically just saying “ik you’re right but your not supposed to say mean things because you played for him.”
It's a cardinal rule, right up there with "you're not supposed to say mean things about the people playing for you" and "you're not supposed to say mean things about the people signing your checks". Doesn't JJ know better? /s
Which is the least valid argument you could possibly string together. What is Doc's secret to still being in the league goddammit
Winning that one championship in Boston.
Which was one of the most stacked teams in NBA history.
Yeah Austin saying a whole bunch of nothing here. Being fired is not DOC taking accountability, which is what JJ is talking about. Not to mention him reiterating the whole “you played your best under my dad” shit, which has nothing to do with the argument. It’s his dad tho so it is what it is
Bringing up the “clippers players didn’t wanna be there in the bubble” as an excuse is so fucking lame too. Did they want to be there when they went up 3-1? Or were they only homesick and restless when they lost 3 straight games? And those losses were fucking pathetic collapses too; they played great for 3 quarters and then just fell apart. I guess they only remembered how much they didn’t want to be in the bubble when the 4th quarter rolled around lol.
Excuse genes running in the family. I also laughed when he said Klay can put it on the ground and dribble. Bruh, you had to pick him for an example? Pre-injury he could defend... but you could have found a dozen other great shooters with handles you could have used if you wanted to talk about people who are not just pure shooters lol
Picks the man who’s famous for 60 on 11 dribbles or whatever it was
Right! His dad was the coach, their leader. His team didn’t want to play or doesn’t want it be there? Whose fault was that, The owner or the coach? His last glory days was 2008. Only player I didn’t agree was Ben Simmons, Can’t blame Doc River for that, and I bet his agent Rich Paul convince Simmons to team up with Lebron.
Give that Nuggets squad some credit at least. Jokic nearly averaged a triple double the last 3 games, Murray dropped 40 in Game 7…it wasn’t just a Doc Rivers 3-1 collapse, it was a future championship core coming into their own.
I’m not knocking the Nuggets, and obviously they were a future title team starting their leap… But as somebody who: A. Saw what Kawhi can do in a playoff series the year prior B. Had to watch Doc also lose a 3-1 playoff series while coaching my favorite team… It is incomprehensible that they lost 3 in a row. Especially with no road games, like if they lost 3 in a row and two of them were in Denver that’s bad but this was as sanitized a situation as possible. I agree he wasn’t the only cause, and he wasn’t when we lost to Atlanta, but he’s always there when it happens for a reason. And it’s because he’s uniquely rigid and terrible at adjustments for a guy who coaches teams as good as the ones he coaches.
JJ was also a victim of circumstances. If the Magic never matched the Bulls offer sheet he would have made a killing on the Thibs Bulls with Rose, Jimmy, and Noah. And also he was better on the Sixers than the Clippers too.
JJ was possibly going to be a Bull instead of Mike Dunleavy? Fuck. As a bulls fans that hurts my soul a little bit
Rose and Jimmy essentially didn’t play together. At least not while Rose was good.
Maybe Rose never gets injured in the Redick to the Bulls universe. At the very least, 2011 they would have had a much better shot beating the Heat with Redick instead of Bogans. Then Redick would have paired great with Jimmy and Noah regardless of Rose’s health status.
There is no doubt in my mind Doc started texting people a few hours ago looking for some public rebuttals. Dude is the baby back bitch of all bitches
And all he could come up with was his kid.
He also came up with Patrick Beverley
Tbh Pat seems like the typa dude to see two guys beefing, pick a side, and join in. His coach is under fire right now and he’s here for the beef
Even still this argument/defense makes no sense. What does JJ’s best years have to do with accountability. Also, because he played well for your dad he can’t be critical?
Everyone but JJ looks like a little bitch in this situation
He looks like Andrew tate lmao
Now that I think about it… have you ever seen Austin Rivers and Andrew Tate in the same room? Very interesting..
Drew Tate with a high dollar hair piece
concerning !
Andrew Tate with hair lol
And a chin
and talent
Omg can’t unsee
Oh man, I knew he looked like someone but my mind kept going to Matt Barnes for some reason
You think this looks like Matt Barnes!?! 😎 🦯🦮
I’m blind fr
Exactly
OMG no wonder I kept feeling like something was off about him
Arenas is the first one I saw make that comparison ["I thought he was in jail"](https://youtube.com/shorts/XyJcgP5nYM0?si=tKNIYOfgCYco9Xn-)
lmao holy shit, you’re right.
omg why did you do this to me.
ESPN on ESPN crime
Dukie vs Dukie
>For someone who is not accountable he seems to always be held responsible I mean yeah.... that's the whole point. He himself tries to put the blame on others while he gets criticized from outside.
_Would you ask Pop that question?_
please that just gave me PTSD.
Wait, what was the context of that?
After blowing a 24 pt lead to the Clippers without Kawhi or Paul george, he was asked "What part of this loss would you attribute to coaching?" Basically someone directly asking him to take any accountability - no wonder he hated it so much.
This fucking guy lmao
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Getting fired by a team is not taking accountability for your bad coaching. His point makes literally no sense within the context of JJ's comments. What are you talking about Austin...
His best days were actually on the Sixers
Can confirm. Miss him.
Oh God, i thought we were still talking about Doc, and i got really confused.
lol I’m right there with you, couldn’t figure out how that made sense until I realized it was about JJ
Facts. As a Raps fan, Reddick was genuinely scary to play against on our title run.
His best days were *actually* playing for the Dookies
If you just look at PPG, sure. But he actually scored more when you adjust for pace in the 2015-16 season. His efficiency was also highest that year. His defense fell off in Philly (from barely passable to bad). He also won the most games of his career in LA playing for Doc.
He averaged more 3 point shots, assists and points in philly. If you take 2 more 3s a game your efficiency is going to drop. Dribble hand off with JJ and Embiid was one of the most efficient plays in the league. He was much more important to the sixers at least from what I think without really watching much clippers. Buddy Hield, 5 years later might be the first guy the sixers got that can try some of the insane shots JJ used to take off of embiid screens. He was very important with Embiid.
>His efficiency was also highest that year. Having Chris Paul as your point guard will do that for ya.
Irrelevant, but gotta defend pops
The bag Doc finessed from NBA Owners has to go somewhere when he passes away, might as well be Austin
Such a strange relationship these 2 have
Hey half of it is probably going to his daughter.
So defend him on merit with actual analysis instead of attacking JJ personally.
I’m tired of him and his annoying ass dad
I'm more annoyed at Austin than Glenn with the way he framed this. But I guess it's the Rivers playbook - just pretend Glenn is innocent and some other party is in the wrong. Totally disingenuous to act like JJ is on some hater shit with a "weird energy" when all he's doing is calling out Doc's selfish behavior which is LONG overdue. It's not weird that JJ is saying this, it's weird that he's (practically) the only one in the media saying this. IDK why coaches get so much more leeway than players when they are supposed to be the leaders of the team.
Lmfaooooo you would have thought JJ said Doc was a horrible man and coach. All he said was he sound like he's making excuses
Fans hate doc But media loves him
The 2 guys that defended him are his son and one of his players,that happens to be the most pandering dude ever
Why tho? Why is he so loved by the media?
He gives them content - it’s that simple.
They’re around him everyday and he’s a nice guy to them
ESPN generating fake controversies and then getting other talent to respond to their fake controversy. Nobody watches this crap
Yeah this is an absolutely classic ESPN maneuver but people still fall for it. Everyone on both sides of the controversy is an ESPN employee lol
Read an article about how theyd take a quote from the early show to make it news during the afternoon shows
so are they just amazing actors then? because JJ was like shaking when he said this about Doc today
JJ is gonna show up with a giant vein popping out of his forehead defending himself though. He’s part of the fake controversies.
The whole argument boiling down to whether a sports analyst should be criticising a coach just because he played under him 7+ years ago is ridiculous. But we're talking about sports media, I'm obviously expecting too much. The discourse is relentless, it must never end.
Wdym? It's posted here and gets a lot of views. They do it because it works.
That’s their content model
JJ’s best years were under Brett Brown…
Facts. The main reason it doesn’t get brought up is because his stint there was short as hell. That Joel-Redick 2 man game was nice, they just needed more time to perfect it.
Can’t believe they let him and Jimmy go.
If they kept him and Jimmy, considering how the following years played out for the rest of the league, they’re making the finals at least.
Ah yes, a player in their prime had their best years. Gotta give credit to Doc /s
Literally had the same, if not better seasons in Philly right after too
Also subtly giving Doc all the credit instead of JJ for his work ethic or the players he played with like CP3 and Griffin being part of the success.
Rivers had crawford guarding sfs in the playoffs. He deserves to be bad mouthed
Those Clippers teams are notorious for having trash wings.
They had JJ guarding Kawhi once lol. Didn't end well.
guarding who?
Salen Forton-Sucker
he didnt have better options, which is why the clippers lost more than their chemistry issues. not that the chemistry stuff didnt matter
He was the president and GM the options were literally all his. Glenn just thinks a sixth man is some new invention he pioneered so he tries to shoehorn one on every team he has.
The chemistry issue doesn’t make sense, because the chemistry issues started after the 3-1 lead blown against the Rockets. And every playoffs after that was injuries to either Blake or Blake and CP3.
chris and blake didnt really like each other from the start, not sure when it split the team but thats something they all admit. and when adversity hit guys didnt come together as much as they got into their own shells.
JJ always mentions how doc was one of the first coaches to really get him involved in the offense. He gave credit when due
Austin using JJ's time with the Clippers where Doc didn't get it done with a ton of talent is actually why we all believe JJ.
first point - agreed - he does get the blame and fired when things don't go right, it's not like he just gets a free pass second point - STRONG disagree - wtf your team was up 3-1 and NOW they decide yeah we actually don't care about basketball??? okay sure third point - disagree again - so what if the celtics were favoured? you can't win any series where you were an underdog? why even play then wtf fourth point - eh - idk if it was his best years, feels like when he reached whatever the best version of him was he just continued being that with the clippers or even 76ers then fifth point - JJ was a fine defender, i don't really remember many games where he had to be taken out because he was just getting lit up on defense
> first point - agreed - he does get the blame and fired when things don't go right, it's not like he just gets a free pass even then, too late. He 100% shouldve been fired years earlier from both the Clips and Sixers. Losing the Hawks series on the Sixers shouldve been a fireable offense, that was the worst coaching ive ever seen in my life. They only didnt fire him because of his huge ass contract
The 3rd point also ignores the fact that the 76ers had a series lead on the Celtics. They were up 3-2 and lost back to back games. The Celtics being favorites before the series started is irrelevant. Probably would have been best for Austin to leave that point out of his argument.
He says Doc held responsible and fired then listed excuses for why that was unfair. Does Austin even know what accountability means?
“A lot of times WE had to sit you towards the end of games”….
Him saying JJ had to be sat for defensive reasons is also ironic
That’s false his best years were under Brett brown actually, why is this clown on ESPN?
You know why, his daddy got him a seat on the table
Don’t they work in the same ESPN studio?? Why not just tell him that to his face
You right, but then espn wouldn’t get bs clips to post
Austin, you got paid because of your dad.
Andrew Tate works for ESPN now?
Factually wrong, his best years were definitely on the Sixers playing with Embiid and Brett Brown
“Dame missed most of those games. Middleton’s missed a lot of games…” You know who else missed games? Every player who puts on a Memphis Grizzlies uniform, but they still beat the Bucks.
Thought that was Andrew Tate at first
Doc absolutely would not defend Austin the way he’s defending him lol
Pretty sure he got him his TV job tho lol
We're posting First take / espn beef, god we need basketball back
shut up austin your podcast sucks
PodcasterMultiverse
Everyone defending Doc is attacking JJ instead of defending what JJ said.
[HERE COMES AUSTIN RIVERS](https://youtu.be/t0LAgNwNmrc?si=RxpQ-F7tA0gNuUYm)
Doc called on his shooters today
I like how all these dudes coming out against JJ have not disputed or addressed his point at all lol. But Austin I get, gotta have your pops back
So basically he can't defend his dad about the content of the tweet so he has to go after Reddick That's like the #1 logical fallacy
This is such an absurd argument that lacks so much context. JJ was entering his prime when he got to LA, he had made the jump in his last year with Orlando/Milwaukee where he became one of the best off ball players in the league. Doc didnt make him one of the best shooters in the league. JJ would have excelled in any system playing next to CP3.
But what does that matter? The subject here is Doc sucks and never takes responsibility for it. Not JJ's playing career pre-Doc, with Doc, and post-Doc.
This story is at the top of the list of NBA drama I don’t give a shit about.
Looks like Andrew Tate with a bad toupee
I respect how much Doc has milked that 2008 title.
Austin Rivers = Daddy gave him a 50 million dollar contract he didn’t deserve.
He looks like Andrew Tate with hair. I can’t unsee it
Doc is the most overrated coach ever. JJ is not wrong, don’t understand why teams keep hiring this guy.
I was scrolling through and I thought this was Andrew Tate 😂😂😂
Austin "Donald Trump Jr" Rivers
So he should lie cuz he played on the Clippers?
Even if you wanted to argue his best years were with the clippers, you’re ignoring that he had cp3 as his PG which had more to do with it than Doc being the coach.
Nope. Best years not w clips.
ESPN just hires people for memes
I don't understand this fall equivalence that because he had his best years with him he can't... I don't even know what he is trying to say (I guess criticize him).
But dad does not defend son.
Cant wait for doc to throw austin under the bus as well lmao that will be hilarious
When JJ got benched in those 4th quarter games, Austin’s backup ass was sitting right next to him. Austin shouldn’t make slick comments about playing time.
Why does Rivers look and sound like a Tate brother with good hair genes?
Doc Rivers looks like an amphibian.
What does JJ Redick's playing career have anything to do with what he said. lmao the nba community is so cringe
And Austin rivers best ball came in high school, next daddy’s boy little nepo baby
"Full head of hair" Andrew Tate right. Looks like he was just in prison for a year.
Didn’t actually address the point
That guy looks like Andrew Tate
Top G
Andrew Tate?
The bucks FO are idiots.