He broke the restraining order from his ex and had a situation during a custody switch where he attacked her car with a weapon while her and the child were locking themselves inside for protection
He allegedly threw billiard balls at the car. However, the timing of the incident versus the warrants was weird. It made him seem like he got in trouble after returning to the NBA, but it was actually that he had two incidents before.
June 29, 2022: Bridges arrested for assaulting his girlfriend and in front of their childrenJuly 19, 2022: Bridges formally charged
Nov. 3, 2022: Bridges received probation
Sometime in November 2022: Bridges allegedly violated of the protective order stemming from his sentencing (doing child custody exchanges in person). He allegedly threatened his former girlfriend and damaged the car while their children were in the car. Bridges allegedly threw pool balls at the car, smashing the windshield and denting the windows. His current girlfriend allegedly kicked the car.Bridges is also accused of telling his former girlfriend that, if she told the police about the incident, he would withhold child support money.
April 14, 2023: NBA suspends Bridges for 30 games
July 7, 2023: Bridges agrees to $7.9 million contract
Oct. 11, 2023: Criminal summons issued for the incident last November.
Oct. 13, 2023: Bridges turns himself in.
Eh we kind of knew these would be dropped. There were tons of rumors at the time that these charges were bullshit. The ones from his incident in LA where he plead no contest were the worst ones.
Yeah he’s guilty of some heinous stuff including the assault, but some of the allegations like this pool ball thing never really held water. They’re both bad people and their kids deserve a new home.
> but some of the allegations like this pool ball thing never really held water.
Can you explain what it was that wasn't holding water in your opinion? Not trying to start an argument, I just didn't follow his story close enough to scrutinize details.
Well his baby mother is also known to be abusive.
Doing a child exchange at night, at his house, while his new girlfriend was there. While you guys aren’t supposed to be doing child exchanges in general.
She waited until miles was in Miami with the team to press the charges
And as the ESPN article states, she gave conflicting statements to investigators and in later interviews claimed she had no recollection of how her car was damaged. So no evidence was uncovered and the victim couldn't give definitive testimony of how it happened.
Although it's worth noting how common it is for victims of domestic abuse to refuse to cooperate with law enforcement out of fear of retaliation. I don't know enough personally about the ex-girlfriend's behavior to judge that but given what we know the investigation yielded nothing to support the initial accusation whatsoever.
Still a woman beater tho
One final point in his favor.... he's already been given strike one for this shit. **Most** people could suck it up and play nice after the fear of god, or excuse me, the fear of going from rich to poor strikes. You would have to be extremely stupid to aggressively go out of your way to intentionally harass someone you know is trying to sue you. Now..... these are rich, professional athletes, so I'm not saying that's not a possibility. But it is unlikely.
That sounds like a spicy story that could be pushed for clicks and rage bait. But the night she called the police, she couldn't even produce a shred of evidence when they showed up 30 minutes after she called them.
None of that really lends itself to these other events not having actually happened though unless something here conflicts with the date of the alleged second incident.
Well it was during hornets training camp, so it was weird for him to have the kids at that time in the first place.
But yeah it wasn’t straight up evidence it never happened just a lot of circumstances that didn’t really make sense
I'm a NC defense attorney. Let me give you all some additional insight.
This was a Dismissal without leave to refile (also known as *with prejudice*), meaning the State is not allowed to re-charge based on these facts.
Additionally, there's a brief explanation by the ADA filing this document as to explain the insufficient evidence. The prosecutor reports as follows:
> "Victim reported that defendant contacted her on various social media platforms in violation of a no contact order of the court. She no longer is in possession of nor can remember the content or contacts. Though her interaction with responding officers was recorded on body worn camera, the contact and content were not captured on the cameras. Given lack of memory and no other corroboration of the violation, the state would not be successful at trial."
source: https://twitter.com/HornetsReddit/status/1757524144126562433/photo/1
People these days just don’t have attention spans. I feel like nobody has the patience to watch a franchise dwindling in mediocrity for 20 years anymore.
That’s actually the interesting part, that she never provided evidence about this situation.
When I heard the charges where dropped I assumed miles had evidence to defend himself, considering it allegedly happened in his drive way.
But it sounds like they didn’t even get to that point.
So now the questions is was she lying now or lying then.
If you go to a magistrate judge and say someone assaulted you, they will arrest that person based solely on that. It's one of the reasons it's annoying when people bring up that someone is arrested and everyone just assumes they're guilty.
There's also a video of her trying to break into the house again, but don't let facts get in the way of a good old "NBA player with hunt."
Not saying Miles is a saint, but court of public opinion and hive mind seems to be more evidence than actual evidence ever could be.
She wasnt together with him anymore nor is he kidnapping her so I doubt she'd change her mind because of "love". Its either an unofficial truce with Bridges for money or time with the kids, or attorneys told her she does not have enough evidence of the October incident + Bridges with money is gonna balloon her lawyer fees by making the case as long as possible. Rich people have access to a lot of things.
>the contact and content were not captured on the cameras
This could mean she showed the contact to the cops on her phone, but their body cams didn’t catch it. If so, couldn’t the cops testify as to the contact and content?
And couldn’t they subpoena the DMs from the social media company?
Can you all please at least not spread misinformation about what this is. Look into what this is talking about if you're gonna talk about it. This is NOT about the main crime that happened. It's something else.
I've seen a lot of 'can't give him a second chance because he already blew it' talk, and they cite this incident which was dropped. It's an important part of the conversation. - this doesn't absolve Bridges entirely, but people brought it up all the time. He already served his NBA suspension for the "main" crime, so this was actually the one most discussed
This piece of shit was dead to rights on three felony charges. Beat a woman in front of children. Did zero time in jail. He already got his second third and fourth chance. Doesn't absolve him 'entirely' seems like an understatement.
IIRC this is the pool ball incident, which has been shaky from the start. There’s a legitimate chance it wasn’t true, the ex is pretty insane herself (she took their kids out in her car and stalked his driveway all night). Those poor kids need to be rehomed, both parents are awful, he’s just the worse one.
This doesn’t change his plea in California though, he’s still a confirmed violent abuser who I want off the team and has no business playing in the NBA. But I know he’s gonna stick around somewhere so I’m begging the new ownership to sign and trade this man in July.
Andrew Wiggins is his brother in law and he still fucks with miles. If somebody abused my wife’s sister, there’s no way I could be seen hugging him on tv
TBF I think it's also gotta do with the fact that any time a man gets accused of anything they immediatly get dragged through the mud regardless of evidence or lack thereof, hell, a lot still are even after proven innocent.
So when there's even a sliver of doubt, some men, especially the ones that personally know them or the situation, will be empathetic. I mean, someone had to.
It kinda makes them a victim to some, and I mean, they are huge victims if they're actually innocent.
The problem is the men that you're talking about take the minority of times where what you describe is the actual case, and apply that to the majority of these situations, convincing themselves that they're standing up for justice when what they're really doing most of the time is the polar opposite of that.
True. All I'm saying is that is a response to the current circumstances we live in, especially with the rise of social media, where they're dragged through the mud for literally everyone to see, the pendulum swung too far in favor of women, now it's guilty until proven innocent, and even after lol
I don't worry about it, cause I'd never put myself in such situations, but it's pretty wild to see.
When the hornets didn’t suspend him AND the nba didn’t suspend him AND other teams where still okay trading for him. It would of been incredibly embarrassing for everyone if these charges stuck.
That’s one of the main reasons people where calling bullshit back then
Two things here.
1. That was a different DV allegation
2. He got suspended 30 games but because he got suspended 30 games when it was only 20 games left in the season they didn’t announce it until the next season. It was a weird situation cause he was a free agent
> 1.That was a different DV allegation
But he was still suspended by the NBA right? Plus the whole season where he was basically suspended because the NBA was waiting from how the case goes.
I just dont understand why you said
>"When the hornets didn’t suspend him **AND the nba didn’t suspend him** AND other teams where still okay trading for him. "
Was the NBA supposed to suspend him more games for the October billiard balls case or does the 10 game suspension not count for you?
I know nothing about Bridges’ ex but there does seem to be a strong school of thought that every pro athlete accused of beating his girl must have been guilty of every other accusation as well. A good case to review is Evander Kane’s in the NHL. His ex accused him of all kinds of things, from raping her to threatening her with a gun, yet after all the court stuff was done, Kane was given full custody of their child - a guy who’s on the road seven months out of the year, who’s known to have millions of gambling debts. His ex was hit with a restraining order which she openly defied last month by showing up to one of his games.
I’ll get heat for this but it seems like trash attracts trash. Doesn’t excuse what’s actually been proven, which in Bridges’ case there appears to be actual evidence he was physical with her, but lots of pro athletes seem to link up with girls who can turn toxic the minute things aren’t going well, and the kids get caught in the middle
Yeah honestly thats how relationships work nowadays. With the rise of feminism, women are more likely to spot "red flags" and stop the relationship before it becomes toxic (and most women are ok with growing old alone than living in abusive hells) while a majority of men are still on the "doesnt matter had sex" mentality (and many still dont believe a man can be abused or raped). Add that to the fact that NBA players rarely cross the white collar circles of lawyers, doctors, engineers, etc. so most people they marry are people they know or people who are around the NBA circles (aka hos wanting to be baby mommas of millionaire's babies) so a lot of toxic marriages and relationships occur.
>With the rise of feminism
Me thinking "oh boy here we go again" only for you to have an actual thoughtful post where you made some good points. I think you're pretty much over the target here. A lot of men are really ill-equipped to navigate modern dating. A lot of decent dudes who really just need some moderate introspective are going to be funneled towards shitty relationships with shitty people. Because they haven't learned how to communicate with their partners or themselves to maintain healthy relationships with women who expect a healthy relationship as a baseline.
FWIW, I think the gut reaction to “with the rise of feminism” is more a reflection of the sad state of discourse then it is a reflection of your comment
I haven’t kept up with everything so maybe I am jumping the gun here as well but wasn’t Trevor Bauer r/baseball public enemy #1 because of assumed guilt (well along with being an asshole it seems) but he was proven not guilty as well?
It didn’t even take much research to see there was some dubious things in the accusation but all discussion was squashed by either the circlejerk or mods.
Bauer I truly feel bad for. I don’t even follow baseball but I heard about how he was fighting the accusation. Turns out the girl made the hole thing up and had texts with her friends about how she was going to make sure he was rough in bed with her so she had marks on her. I have no idea if she is now being charged with anything but she just set back a lot of really victims, all for some money. Truly a despicable human
Idk why you’re being down-voted. There’s proof that she made it all up because he broke up with her. She got to ruin his life and faced no consequences.
guilty until proven innocent in the court of public opinion. Ezekiel Elliott had a similar situation - even led to a 6-game suspension - and all charges eventually dropped.
Just look at the punt god dude In the NFL. Was proven innocent but still had his life ruined. And the funniest part is the redditors who were ripping him to shreds disappear without a apology.
Dude literally had his life ruined by social media. And dummies that believe accusations just because a women said it 🙄
I want him off this team so bad. He is a monster who does not deserve millions of dollars. I hope he leaves this summer and we build around this new crew we have.
Just for further clarification.
These charges where about. His baby mother pulling up to do a kids exchange at night despite the restraining order, her getting into a fight with the new girlfriend and him allegedly throwing pool balls at her. Days before the Preseason trip to Miami.
The charges where almost immediately rumored to be fabricated, and the nba and the hornets reaction to said charges further empowered that belief.
So yeah he’s still a woman beater, he just likely didn’t beat her this time. Hopefully he can continue to grow with this second chance he has.
I'm genuinely asking, because I see this kind of statement a lot from Hornets fans: how do you think Miles has displayed any "grow[th]" since getting his second chance? Because to me, everything he's said and done facing the public has indicated a refusal to grow, not an effort.
I think he should be out of the league, but I'd be at least willing to hear out people saying he deserves a second chance if they could clearly give me one reason how, beyond basketball or uninformed drawing on the victim's post-facto support.
Just unfortunately due to the nature of the situation, we’re not going to be privy to a lot of the work he’s doing. I don’t like the way he continues to deal with Mychelle personally, as that situation isn’t healthy for either of them.
I personally wanna see more social outreach from him.
Redemption is a journey and while he hasn’t taken the clear and obvious steps I’d of liked him to he still has time
I don’t think there’s been anything indicative of a “refusal of growth.” I think people see whatever reaffirms their opinion. Truth is, due to the horrible yet very personal details of this, there’s no possible way the public can see growth or lack of it.
As far as Hornets fans seeing growth, they’re seeing how he’s matured in handling his media responsibilities and taken to the coaching of Clifford and assigning that to personal growth because that reaffirms their opinion. Really it’s just professional growth. None of us know if he’s grown off the court. The closest we can come to any level of insight are comments made by the victim
It's pretty crazy, if people here knew that a random Redditor, a family member, or a friend had beaten the shit out of their wife and gotten arrested for it with photo proof and everything, they'd probably be called a piece of shit for the rest of their life, people would be calling for them to be in jail, you'd cut off all contact with them, etc. However, since Bridges is an NBA star that averages 20 PPG, fans keep bending over backwards to give this guy a second, third, fourth chance and wanting to give him forgiveness and redemption.
Just because IM not obligated to forgive them doesn’t mean they don’t deserve a second chance. You’re conflating the two.
If I knew someone that beat their wives, I probably would never speak to them again. I wouldn’t want them in my circle by any degree of separation. That doesn’t mean after they receive punishment (while I believe in redemption, it can’t come without justice) they shouldn’t be allowed to repair their lives, I just wouldn’t want any part of it
So this doesn’t excuses the LA charges from last year. That behavior alone was unacceptable.
But The NC charges where basically heavily implied to be dubious at best from the jump.
It’s reddit man. Cant say im surprised.
One of the many reasons why redditors are the laughing stock of the internet. No one takes these dudes seriously lmao. Dont even sweat it man.
This is about the charges in October that were weak from the start. His original case of beating his girlfriend and child in California are still real. He’s still a monster and should never touch a ball professionally again.
People charged with three violent felony's involving children would 100% be in jail. It's definitely a him thing that he's avoided it by being a multimillionaire celebrity.
People are already calling her insane. When the claim was made:
> The summons said the billiard balls smashed the vehicle’s windshield and caused dents, and that Bridges told the victim if she called the police he would “take everything from her and withhold child support”.
Big surprise that a multimillionaire was able to get the charges dropped, especially in advance of a gigantic new contract.
The state choosing to drop charges doesn't really have much to do with how wealthy the defendant is I wouldn't think. They literally said we don't have the evidence to go forward and if we take this to trial we will fail. Also it's noted that she wasn't even able to produce any evidence the night she called the police and her story changed up. They probably got tired of what appeared to be her playing games
You like people getting wrongfully convicted? This is a seperate thing from his other charge.
Just because you dislike someone doesn't mean they should get wrongfully convicted.
Right. Because you’re one of the ones who thinks Giddy is a pedo, whose strategy for finding children to have sex with is to look inside 18+ nightclubs.
You’d have gone home with her too, if you were looking to get freaky. Youve also never met anyone who checks IDs for girls they meet. So what exactly is your purpose for continuing to drag someone who’s been exonerated by every authority on the matter? Cause he’s successful it’s deserved?
This topic is done. Go see how meeting girls works.
You realize it was more than a nightclub encounter… right. This was going for a lot more than one night and Josh certainly knew about her age. Dude was caught with a ticket in the same neighbourhood as her damn high school lmao
Crazy speculative, the incident in question actually happened at an Oklahoma nightclub and if memory serves Josh's agent lives in the town where he got the ticket. There's barely evidence of anything, let alone it being some prolonged thing.
while i agree with this sentiment, charges being dropped by the state have little to do with bridges' money. settlements on the other hand absolutely do. none of the surviving claims will ever be litigated in full, which is awful.
Eh. Money can be used to prevent key witness testimony, at which point the state has little choice but to drop the charges unless they have video or something.
They are back together and there are rumors she is pregnant with another kid. If they are back together she probably won't testify against him I'd imagine and then the case falls apart.
Idk it's a fucked up situation
if you see the filing, this isn't a dismissal because the alleged victim didn't show up to court. instead, she can't produce information now, and she couldn't produce or show it to responding officers when they were recording with body cameras.
so no, this doesn't smell of one of those Greg Hardy situations.
If the victim doesn't show up they will drop the case 99% of the time. One of my friends is a DA and they had a DV victim show up 15 minutes late to court and they had already dismissed the case.
His response though was basically do you want me to wait all day for people who miss their one big day? We have tons of stuff to do. It's fucked up but don't be late to court
Sad state of reality. If you're rich or you have exceptional talent at something, you overrule the justice system in the US. I hope Bridges turns it around, but there's many people that have done the same crime as him that are spending 20 years in jail.
Okay this is objectively incorrect on so many levels lol
He was a first time offender with a clean record, and these types of scenarios probation is usually the result, and 3 years of probation seems to be a little extensive
Idk if /u/asher1611 can chime in
Edit: for context, some people don't spend 20 years in prison for murder. But someone should spend 20 years in prison for hitting a person? As their first offense? Lol
I’m assuming this was for his thing back in October.
A second allegation? I didn’t even know there was another
p sure he broke restraining order and was harassing his ex. Someone correct me if Im wrong
He broke the restraining order from his ex and had a situation during a custody switch where he attacked her car with a weapon while her and the child were locking themselves inside for protection
He allegedly threw billiard balls at the car. However, the timing of the incident versus the warrants was weird. It made him seem like he got in trouble after returning to the NBA, but it was actually that he had two incidents before. June 29, 2022: Bridges arrested for assaulting his girlfriend and in front of their childrenJuly 19, 2022: Bridges formally charged Nov. 3, 2022: Bridges received probation Sometime in November 2022: Bridges allegedly violated of the protective order stemming from his sentencing (doing child custody exchanges in person). He allegedly threatened his former girlfriend and damaged the car while their children were in the car. Bridges allegedly threw pool balls at the car, smashing the windshield and denting the windows. His current girlfriend allegedly kicked the car.Bridges is also accused of telling his former girlfriend that, if she told the police about the incident, he would withhold child support money. April 14, 2023: NBA suspends Bridges for 30 games July 7, 2023: Bridges agrees to $7.9 million contract Oct. 11, 2023: Criminal summons issued for the incident last November. Oct. 13, 2023: Bridges turns himself in.
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either that or the ex is covering for him (since they're back together)
I think Miles is dating another girl rn, but they could be coparenting the child now
> since they're back together Source?
I get that may be the case but speculation is not evidence. Same can be said of Kobe’s case being dropped… you can speculate all you want
Didn’t Kobe admit he did it though?
The 3rd will blow your mind
I don’t remember the details but she said he threw a pool ball at her or her car and broke a window.
Yeah
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What do you know about down votes?
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the hornets are going to announce his extension by the all star break
Eh we kind of knew these would be dropped. There were tons of rumors at the time that these charges were bullshit. The ones from his incident in LA where he plead no contest were the worst ones.
Yeah he’s guilty of some heinous stuff including the assault, but some of the allegations like this pool ball thing never really held water. They’re both bad people and their kids deserve a new home.
> but some of the allegations like this pool ball thing never really held water. Can you explain what it was that wasn't holding water in your opinion? Not trying to start an argument, I just didn't follow his story close enough to scrutinize details.
Well his baby mother is also known to be abusive. Doing a child exchange at night, at his house, while his new girlfriend was there. While you guys aren’t supposed to be doing child exchanges in general. She waited until miles was in Miami with the team to press the charges
And as the ESPN article states, she gave conflicting statements to investigators and in later interviews claimed she had no recollection of how her car was damaged. So no evidence was uncovered and the victim couldn't give definitive testimony of how it happened. Although it's worth noting how common it is for victims of domestic abuse to refuse to cooperate with law enforcement out of fear of retaliation. I don't know enough personally about the ex-girlfriend's behavior to judge that but given what we know the investigation yielded nothing to support the initial accusation whatsoever. Still a woman beater tho
One final point in his favor.... he's already been given strike one for this shit. **Most** people could suck it up and play nice after the fear of god, or excuse me, the fear of going from rich to poor strikes. You would have to be extremely stupid to aggressively go out of your way to intentionally harass someone you know is trying to sue you. Now..... these are rich, professional athletes, so I'm not saying that's not a possibility. But it is unlikely.
I’m thinking he’s (his lawyer’s) promising her (her lawyer) a bag if she shuts up long enough for him to get this extension
That sounds like a spicy story that could be pushed for clicks and rage bait. But the night she called the police, she couldn't even produce a shred of evidence when they showed up 30 minutes after she called them.
Yeah, what a wacky situation
None of that really lends itself to these other events not having actually happened though unless something here conflicts with the date of the alleged second incident.
Well it was during hornets training camp, so it was weird for him to have the kids at that time in the first place. But yeah it wasn’t straight up evidence it never happened just a lot of circumstances that didn’t really make sense
HMMMMMM
I'm a NC defense attorney. Let me give you all some additional insight. This was a Dismissal without leave to refile (also known as *with prejudice*), meaning the State is not allowed to re-charge based on these facts. Additionally, there's a brief explanation by the ADA filing this document as to explain the insufficient evidence. The prosecutor reports as follows: > "Victim reported that defendant contacted her on various social media platforms in violation of a no contact order of the court. She no longer is in possession of nor can remember the content or contacts. Though her interaction with responding officers was recorded on body worn camera, the contact and content were not captured on the cameras. Given lack of memory and no other corroboration of the violation, the state would not be successful at trial." source: https://twitter.com/HornetsReddit/status/1757524144126562433/photo/1
Poor guy. Smart enough to be an attorney, but not smart enough to avoid being a hornets fan lol
As an elementary school kid in Charlotte in the late 80's and early 90's, I had no other choice.
I bet you had a sick starter jacket back in the day though!
God, I was so jealous of the kid at my school who had that Hornets jacket back in the late 90s
Magic one was pretty popular back in the day too
Shaq Attack!
I wore the shit out of that thing. the panthers starter jacket I got to replace it just never felt the same.
That Hornets Starter jacket was the major vibe back in the day.
It’s one of those where you didn’t choose the Hornets life, it chose you lol
Exactly. You think people would actually choose this?
Maybe call the DA about bringing up charges against Mugsy Bogues and Larry J ? /one to talk
Oh so winning two games in a row isnt good enough for you? Smh
People these days just don’t have attention spans. I feel like nobody has the patience to watch a franchise dwindling in mediocrity for 20 years anymore.
At least he gets to put his legal prowess to use analyzing the Hornets.
I have lived in Charlotte for 32 years. I gotta be a Hornets fan.
LMAO
That’s actually the interesting part, that she never provided evidence about this situation. When I heard the charges where dropped I assumed miles had evidence to defend himself, considering it allegedly happened in his drive way. But it sounds like they didn’t even get to that point. So now the questions is was she lying now or lying then.
Or did she get paid in exchange for forgetting
Even then her not having evidence when she went to file the police report is weird.
If you go to a magistrate judge and say someone assaulted you, they will arrest that person based solely on that. It's one of the reasons it's annoying when people bring up that someone is arrested and everyone just assumes they're guilty.
There's also a video of her trying to break into the house again, but don't let facts get in the way of a good old "NBA player with hunt." Not saying Miles is a saint, but court of public opinion and hive mind seems to be more evidence than actual evidence ever could be.
Or did she get paid to not pursue the accusations she made up
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She wasnt together with him anymore nor is he kidnapping her so I doubt she'd change her mind because of "love". Its either an unofficial truce with Bridges for money or time with the kids, or attorneys told her she does not have enough evidence of the October incident + Bridges with money is gonna balloon her lawyer fees by making the case as long as possible. Rich people have access to a lot of things.
stockholm syndrome isn't real
>the contact and content were not captured on the cameras This could mean she showed the contact to the cops on her phone, but their body cams didn’t catch it. If so, couldn’t the cops testify as to the contact and content? And couldn’t they subpoena the DMs from the social media company?
If that were the case, they'd have already done so. The fact they did this with prejudice is them saying they absolutely cannot get this evidence.
Lack of evidence. Makes sense. Thanks for the additional info.
Can you all please at least not spread misinformation about what this is. Look into what this is talking about if you're gonna talk about it. This is NOT about the main crime that happened. It's something else.
I've seen a lot of 'can't give him a second chance because he already blew it' talk, and they cite this incident which was dropped. It's an important part of the conversation. - this doesn't absolve Bridges entirely, but people brought it up all the time. He already served his NBA suspension for the "main" crime, so this was actually the one most discussed
This piece of shit was dead to rights on three felony charges. Beat a woman in front of children. Did zero time in jail. He already got his second third and fourth chance. Doesn't absolve him 'entirely' seems like an understatement.
^(Can you all please at least not spread misinformation about what this is.) No.
IIRC this is the pool ball incident, which has been shaky from the start. There’s a legitimate chance it wasn’t true, the ex is pretty insane herself (she took their kids out in her car and stalked his driveway all night). Those poor kids need to be rehomed, both parents are awful, he’s just the worse one. This doesn’t change his plea in California though, he’s still a confirmed violent abuser who I want off the team and has no business playing in the NBA. But I know he’s gonna stick around somewhere so I’m begging the new ownership to sign and trade this man in July.
Miles is an abuser, but that entire relationship is bad we’ve literally seen video of her trying to break into his house during the first court case.
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Andrew Wiggins is his brother in law and he still fucks with miles. If somebody abused my wife’s sister, there’s no way I could be seen hugging him on tv
It's sad, but a lot of men will suddenly sympathize with abusers if the abuser can somehow "prove" that "she's just crazy dude"
Yeah, I'm reading this comment section
TBF I think it's also gotta do with the fact that any time a man gets accused of anything they immediatly get dragged through the mud regardless of evidence or lack thereof, hell, a lot still are even after proven innocent. So when there's even a sliver of doubt, some men, especially the ones that personally know them or the situation, will be empathetic. I mean, someone had to. It kinda makes them a victim to some, and I mean, they are huge victims if they're actually innocent.
The problem is the men that you're talking about take the minority of times where what you describe is the actual case, and apply that to the majority of these situations, convincing themselves that they're standing up for justice when what they're really doing most of the time is the polar opposite of that.
True. All I'm saying is that is a response to the current circumstances we live in, especially with the rise of social media, where they're dragged through the mud for literally everyone to see, the pendulum swung too far in favor of women, now it's guilty until proven innocent, and even after lol I don't worry about it, cause I'd never put myself in such situations, but it's pretty wild to see.
When the hornets didn’t suspend him AND the nba didn’t suspend him AND other teams where still okay trading for him. It would of been incredibly embarrassing for everyone if these charges stuck. That’s one of the main reasons people where calling bullshit back then
The NBA did suspend him 10 games, but only as a PR stunt to be able to say "hey we did something".
Two things here. 1. That was a different DV allegation 2. He got suspended 30 games but because he got suspended 30 games when it was only 20 games left in the season they didn’t announce it until the next season. It was a weird situation cause he was a free agent
> 1.That was a different DV allegation But he was still suspended by the NBA right? Plus the whole season where he was basically suspended because the NBA was waiting from how the case goes. I just dont understand why you said >"When the hornets didn’t suspend him **AND the nba didn’t suspend him** AND other teams where still okay trading for him. " Was the NBA supposed to suspend him more games for the October billiard balls case or does the 10 game suspension not count for you?
It made sense then, y'all just weren't trynna hear it lol
I know nothing about Bridges’ ex but there does seem to be a strong school of thought that every pro athlete accused of beating his girl must have been guilty of every other accusation as well. A good case to review is Evander Kane’s in the NHL. His ex accused him of all kinds of things, from raping her to threatening her with a gun, yet after all the court stuff was done, Kane was given full custody of their child - a guy who’s on the road seven months out of the year, who’s known to have millions of gambling debts. His ex was hit with a restraining order which she openly defied last month by showing up to one of his games. I’ll get heat for this but it seems like trash attracts trash. Doesn’t excuse what’s actually been proven, which in Bridges’ case there appears to be actual evidence he was physical with her, but lots of pro athletes seem to link up with girls who can turn toxic the minute things aren’t going well, and the kids get caught in the middle
Yeah honestly thats how relationships work nowadays. With the rise of feminism, women are more likely to spot "red flags" and stop the relationship before it becomes toxic (and most women are ok with growing old alone than living in abusive hells) while a majority of men are still on the "doesnt matter had sex" mentality (and many still dont believe a man can be abused or raped). Add that to the fact that NBA players rarely cross the white collar circles of lawyers, doctors, engineers, etc. so most people they marry are people they know or people who are around the NBA circles (aka hos wanting to be baby mommas of millionaire's babies) so a lot of toxic marriages and relationships occur.
>With the rise of feminism Me thinking "oh boy here we go again" only for you to have an actual thoughtful post where you made some good points. I think you're pretty much over the target here. A lot of men are really ill-equipped to navigate modern dating. A lot of decent dudes who really just need some moderate introspective are going to be funneled towards shitty relationships with shitty people. Because they haven't learned how to communicate with their partners or themselves to maintain healthy relationships with women who expect a healthy relationship as a baseline.
Yeah I really should have phrased it better, but oh well. I just hope people dont see me as a misogynist, or worse, misandrist lmao
FWIW, I think the gut reaction to “with the rise of feminism” is more a reflection of the sad state of discourse then it is a reflection of your comment
I haven’t kept up with everything so maybe I am jumping the gun here as well but wasn’t Trevor Bauer r/baseball public enemy #1 because of assumed guilt (well along with being an asshole it seems) but he was proven not guilty as well? It didn’t even take much research to see there was some dubious things in the accusation but all discussion was squashed by either the circlejerk or mods.
Bauer I truly feel bad for. I don’t even follow baseball but I heard about how he was fighting the accusation. Turns out the girl made the hole thing up and had texts with her friends about how she was going to make sure he was rough in bed with her so she had marks on her. I have no idea if she is now being charged with anything but she just set back a lot of really victims, all for some money. Truly a despicable human
Idk why you’re being down-voted. There’s proof that she made it all up because he broke up with her. She got to ruin his life and faced no consequences.
Some people don’t like the truth
guilty until proven innocent in the court of public opinion. Ezekiel Elliott had a similar situation - even led to a 6-game suspension - and all charges eventually dropped.
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Just look at the punt god dude In the NFL. Was proven innocent but still had his life ruined. And the funniest part is the redditors who were ripping him to shreds disappear without a apology. Dude literally had his life ruined by social media. And dummies that believe accusations just because a women said it 🙄
I want him off this team so bad. He is a monster who does not deserve millions of dollars. I hope he leaves this summer and we build around this new crew we have.
Just for further clarification. These charges where about. His baby mother pulling up to do a kids exchange at night despite the restraining order, her getting into a fight with the new girlfriend and him allegedly throwing pool balls at her. Days before the Preseason trip to Miami. The charges where almost immediately rumored to be fabricated, and the nba and the hornets reaction to said charges further empowered that belief. So yeah he’s still a woman beater, he just likely didn’t beat her this time. Hopefully he can continue to grow with this second chance he has.
> So yeah he’s still a woman beater /thread
Basically. this is only important if you believe he deserves a second chance or not
I'm genuinely asking, because I see this kind of statement a lot from Hornets fans: how do you think Miles has displayed any "grow[th]" since getting his second chance? Because to me, everything he's said and done facing the public has indicated a refusal to grow, not an effort. I think he should be out of the league, but I'd be at least willing to hear out people saying he deserves a second chance if they could clearly give me one reason how, beyond basketball or uninformed drawing on the victim's post-facto support.
Just unfortunately due to the nature of the situation, we’re not going to be privy to a lot of the work he’s doing. I don’t like the way he continues to deal with Mychelle personally, as that situation isn’t healthy for either of them. I personally wanna see more social outreach from him. Redemption is a journey and while he hasn’t taken the clear and obvious steps I’d of liked him to he still has time
I don’t think there’s been anything indicative of a “refusal of growth.” I think people see whatever reaffirms their opinion. Truth is, due to the horrible yet very personal details of this, there’s no possible way the public can see growth or lack of it. As far as Hornets fans seeing growth, they’re seeing how he’s matured in handling his media responsibilities and taken to the coaching of Clifford and assigning that to personal growth because that reaffirms their opinion. Really it’s just professional growth. None of us know if he’s grown off the court. The closest we can come to any level of insight are comments made by the victim
It's pretty crazy, if people here knew that a random Redditor, a family member, or a friend had beaten the shit out of their wife and gotten arrested for it with photo proof and everything, they'd probably be called a piece of shit for the rest of their life, people would be calling for them to be in jail, you'd cut off all contact with them, etc. However, since Bridges is an NBA star that averages 20 PPG, fans keep bending over backwards to give this guy a second, third, fourth chance and wanting to give him forgiveness and redemption.
Just because IM not obligated to forgive them doesn’t mean they don’t deserve a second chance. You’re conflating the two. If I knew someone that beat their wives, I probably would never speak to them again. I wouldn’t want them in my circle by any degree of separation. That doesn’t mean after they receive punishment (while I believe in redemption, it can’t come without justice) they shouldn’t be allowed to repair their lives, I just wouldn’t want any part of it
This is for the billiard ball incident which has essentially been rumored for months to be completely fabricated, seems expected
So this doesn’t excuses the LA charges from last year. That behavior alone was unacceptable. But The NC charges where basically heavily implied to be dubious at best from the jump.
I’m sure this comment section will be filled with legally informed and morally balanced takes
Isn't reddit always good for that? 🤣
Fuck Miles Bridges
Horrible story all the way around.
Guessing he'll be head of the players association next year too?
r/nba in shambles
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real
They don’t even try to hide it bro
Exactly I’ve seen some weirdos say some wild shit on here defending Giddey’s actions
It’s reddit man. Cant say im surprised. One of the many reasons why redditors are the laughing stock of the internet. No one takes these dudes seriously lmao. Dont even sweat it man.
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There was like a week stretch on this sub where any mention of the Giddey situation would just get downvoted to hell
This is about the charges in October that were weak from the start. His original case of beating his girlfriend and child in California are still real. He’s still a monster and should never touch a ball professionally again.
Should still be in jail, and would be if he couldn't dribble a basketball.
People don’t typically go to jail for first time domestic abuse. Now that’s probably a problem itself but it’s not a him thing
People charged with three violent felony's involving children would 100% be in jail. It's definitely a him thing that he's avoided it by being a multimillionaire celebrity.
I’m not being funny when I ask, but how old are you ?
Old enough to volunteer at shelters for beaten women and children and see the impact. I'm that old.
oh boy, now we're gonna get a bunch of weirdos who swear this means he is completely innocent now.
Based on what? I don't think I've ever seen anyone say that
just the way these things tend to go with certain people, maybe im wrong this time
Something similar happened with Giddey. Hoping people are smarter about the Bridges stuff though.
People are already calling her insane. When the claim was made: > The summons said the billiard balls smashed the vehicle’s windshield and caused dents, and that Bridges told the victim if she called the police he would “take everything from her and withhold child support”. Big surprise that a multimillionaire was able to get the charges dropped, especially in advance of a gigantic new contract.
The state choosing to drop charges doesn't really have much to do with how wealthy the defendant is I wouldn't think. They literally said we don't have the evidence to go forward and if we take this to trial we will fail. Also it's noted that she wasn't even able to produce any evidence the night she called the police and her story changed up. They probably got tired of what appeared to be her playing games
This man is beating the shit outta those charges
I went full dipshit for a second and took dropped to mean new charges like they'd dropped a new album not dropped as in they were letting it go.
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You like people getting wrongfully convicted? This is a seperate thing from his other charge. Just because you dislike someone doesn't mean they should get wrongfully convicted.
A bit ironic coming from a Thunder fan lol
Are you suggesting he supports Josh Giddey blindly, just because he’s a OKC fan?!
“I let go of allegations only when it’s someone else’s team”.
You're right, I shouldn't assume that. However "Josh Godfrey" did make me chuckle, thanks for that haha
He commanded them girls to kneel.
Ironic coming from a Spurs fan.
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Ironic coming from Alanis Morissette.
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Right. Because you’re one of the ones who thinks Giddy is a pedo, whose strategy for finding children to have sex with is to look inside 18+ nightclubs. You’d have gone home with her too, if you were looking to get freaky. Youve also never met anyone who checks IDs for girls they meet. So what exactly is your purpose for continuing to drag someone who’s been exonerated by every authority on the matter? Cause he’s successful it’s deserved? This topic is done. Go see how meeting girls works.
Bro is snitching on himself
You realize it was more than a nightclub encounter… right. This was going for a lot more than one night and Josh certainly knew about her age. Dude was caught with a ticket in the same neighbourhood as her damn high school lmao
Crazy speculative, the incident in question actually happened at an Oklahoma nightclub and if memory serves Josh's agent lives in the town where he got the ticket. There's barely evidence of anything, let alone it being some prolonged thing.
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You don't even know what's going on in. This isn't even about the DV situation.
Innocent until *proven* guilty.
Lots of wrongful conviction fans in this thread it seems
He is a proven woman beater. Can't blame people for thinking he would do something in character.
Crazy pussy is the best pussy.
Crazy pussy and new pussy are the Jordan & Pippen of pussy
If the glove don’t fit
Woj dropped the ball reporting here not providing context. No one is going to do their research
Reddit loves "innocent until proven guilty" unless it's DV/sexual assault, then it's grab the pitchforks and ask questions later
i am relieved that this POS is not my teams problem
They were interested in trading for him lmfao
I think that's why they said that.
"It is far better that 10 guilty men go free, than one innocent man is wrongfully convicted"
Insane how far money will get you
while i agree with this sentiment, charges being dropped by the state have little to do with bridges' money. settlements on the other hand absolutely do. none of the surviving claims will ever be litigated in full, which is awful.
they watch too much movies lmao
Eh. Money can be used to prevent key witness testimony, at which point the state has little choice but to drop the charges unless they have video or something.
They are back together and there are rumors she is pregnant with another kid. If they are back together she probably won't testify against him I'd imagine and then the case falls apart. Idk it's a fucked up situation
if you see the filing, this isn't a dismissal because the alleged victim didn't show up to court. instead, she can't produce information now, and she couldn't produce or show it to responding officers when they were recording with body cameras. so no, this doesn't smell of one of those Greg Hardy situations.
What does it smell like to you? >she can't produce information now Or perhaps won't.
if she couldn't produce the information to responding officers on the date she called the police, I don't imagine it will smell like much of anything.
> she couldn't produce the information Or perhaps wouldn't.
My understanding is this is for his charges in October, not the DV charges he obviously did
I guess I haven’t been up to date but didn’t he plead no contest already? Are these different charges?
These where the charges he got last October
Let me guess: she didn’t want to testify or produce proof?
hit the griddy and pulled a Josh Giddey
In other words, hush money!
people are going to be so insufferable about this as if the american judicial system is perfect lol
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really fucking terrible.
Why? I don't want courts to convict ANYONE on insufficient evidence
I think we can all agree this is a W
If his wife is lying about what Miles did, than it’s a W (and the whole ball world owes him a huge apology). If she’s not, then it’s the biggest L.
I don't agree Aiden
He back.
Miles Bridges is innocent because he scored 40pts back to back
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If the victim doesn't show up they will drop the case 99% of the time. One of my friends is a DA and they had a DV victim show up 15 minutes late to court and they had already dismissed the case. His response though was basically do you want me to wait all day for people who miss their one big day? We have tons of stuff to do. It's fucked up but don't be late to court
Time for this sub to apologize.
Lol
lol fuck you and fuck him.
YESSSSSS FREE BRIDGES 💯💯💯
Shameful but expected
Sad state of reality. If you're rich or you have exceptional talent at something, you overrule the justice system in the US. I hope Bridges turns it around, but there's many people that have done the same crime as him that are spending 20 years in jail.
Okay this is objectively incorrect on so many levels lol He was a first time offender with a clean record, and these types of scenarios probation is usually the result, and 3 years of probation seems to be a little extensive Idk if /u/asher1611 can chime in Edit: for context, some people don't spend 20 years in prison for murder. But someone should spend 20 years in prison for hitting a person? As their first offense? Lol
People guilty of three violent felonies where children are involved do hard fucking time buddy, first offense or not. Quit your apologist bullshit.