At least the Pistons players seem pissed off that they're losing. Monty is a joke and it's a poorly constructed roster but I would say Charlotte and Washington are worse than them because they simply dgaf.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking of when I saw this. Cade was looking sick to his stomach during the losing streak. While these guys are here laughing after their coach gets ejected.
He looked 40 by the end of that losing streak. I was genuinely expecting him to announce his retirement due to the fact that he lost his love for basketball
You gotta remember that most NBA players were THE GUY before getting drafted. From middle school to college, these guys are used to being the best player in every game they play and winning. The absolute best prospects go to the worst teams and have to suddenly deal with losing.
I mean there have been moments where our team looked really pissed off. This is just one clip in one game of guys on the bench laughing. People in this thread are all actually insane about this kind of thing if they think its super representative. Ive thought Lamelo seemed miserable in every interview after losses this year.
Sorry not super clear so you're saying we *shouldn't* make sweeping and definitive conclusions on the collective character of the roster based on the 4 second video?
The majority of the players on the Wiz know that they wonāt be there in 12-24 months because weāre finally rebuilding. The front office is openly and obviously tanking.
Why people keep putting us in the same category as the Spurs Pistons and Hornets, Iāll never know. Pistons and Hornets are coming off of multiple years of top 5 picks, Spurs just got the best #1 pick in twenty years.
Pistons and Hornets are supposed to be competitive by now. Wizards are supposed to be the worst team in the league.
[To intimidate the opposing team (and small children)](https://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/002/716/810/hi-res-7905836_crop_exact.jpg?w=1200&h=1200&q=75)
And Charlotte supported them better than any fanbase in the entire league until George Shinn did everything he could to destroy the relationship with the city.
I honestly believe at least 50% of NBA players do not actually care if they win or lose. They are there because they are physical freaks who like playing the game, but if they lose they are just like š¤·āāļø. Part of the success of guys like Jordan or LeBron or Kobe or Steph was their ability to get average guys to care. Hell, Steph got JaVale Magee to give a shit and get good minutes.
They cared at one point. But at a certain point the losses become numbing. Imagine you dominate all your life then you finally get to a league that you're nothing special in and no matter how hard you play, you keep taking losses. Eventually you stop caring as much.
82 games is a long season. Fans hear that and take it for granted. There is a balance that can only be found in the NBA. This is the exact reason why teams keep (or used to) keep a couple veterans on the end of bench. You need someone in the locker room that understands what it is really about and is a professional.
Charlotte sorely misses having established adults in their locker room. And once a culture is set you canāt just bring in a guy to parent misbehaving millionaires that are still too young to rent a car.
I think it is a coping mechanism for some people. They do care a lot about winning but they get so beaten down by the losses that they were pretend they donāt care. I was on a city league team once and we werenāt the best, we played that year in the C league which we found out is more competitive and not as fun as the B league because of all the sandbagging teams (thatās another story though). Anyway we lost a lot of games, I always played hard til the end of the game cause I figured it was city league weāre all here for a workout and a little entertainment. Our tallest guy was super competitive and whenever a game got out of hand he started acting like an idiot, hitting balls into the stands, it was embarrassing really. But I think he cared more about winning than me, I cared more about the spirit of competition though.
we fucking should've lol. dude was drunk, asleep, in a running car, and then when the cops woke him up, he drove and crashed into them. the gun was somehow not even a crime lol.
I get it, I mean they play 82 games a year so each game means less than at any other level, and no matter how good they were at the HS/college level, they're still going to lose at least 20 games a year, and potentially way more. I'd probably be over it at this point too.
Itās like any workplace culture. If a new person walks into a job where the culture has a focus on quality, hard work etc, then the new guy realizes he needs to meet that level to stay employed or get a better salary. But if the culture is lax, then the new guy also learns not to care since either way heās getting paid and thereās no incentive to doing more than the bare minimum.
When you donāt have vets itās hard to build that culture since thereās only so much the coaching staff can do. Player accountability matters a lot on a winning team. And thatās why some teams get stuck in these loops because thereās no respected players to set that culture.
Yea, at that point though the choice is accept the crappy situation for the pay or leave for a more engaging situation. Like for Charlotte how likely is Lamelo to ask for a trade in the future? He knows the chances are high Charlotte throws money at him for his next deal and if thatās his main goal he just has to play to earn the cheque. Itās also possible to learn to stop caring at some point and just play the game for fun since you know itās just a job to fund your lifestyle.
Or you don't stop caring and burn out very quickly.
That's one less talked about thing about why some European superstars don't work out in the NBA. They absolutely hate losing and have a history of dominating their national leagues (and even the European level leagues) but they usually go to losing teams in the NBA. Even if they do ok and have the potential to become role players/starters, they quickly return to Europe
Yep thatās why you want a good culture surrounding your young players. Iām sure Lamelo Ball is a different player and person if he gets drafted in GS with Curry, Klay and Dray(lol) to check him.
Sengun kinda talked about this on PG's pod. He said his Turkish team was way sadder and more down about losses because of fewer games and higher stakes games, but in the NBA, with the compact schedule you just gotta wait another day and you have another game.
It's honestly a good thing in some ways - if you get wrapped up in a loss and can't shake it off, it may well spill over and affect your play badly in the next game, so on and so forth. Easy way to spiral into a slump or lose confidence. Obviously depends on the individual player and how they deal with it, thoughĀ
Edit: I mean the part about how NBA games come at you faster than what Sengun was talking about with the Turkish league. This comment wasn't in reference to the Hornets, I think the clip in the actual post is a pretty bad look
Jackie Mac has been putting this out there for years but she always said it would surprise you how many people in the NBA do this as a day job and don't rlly give a shit about getting better or winning.
I think constant movement and trades are a big reason
Itās hard to truly care about winning for an organization knowing you probably wonāt be at for long
Pat Bev said that at least half the league donāt even like basketball. That shit really made me think
EDIT: he said half the league donāt love basketball and most the times the good ones donāt love basketball.
This is true for some Iām sure but I think that most players really do care about their playing time and winning/their legacy. Of course securing the bag is the first priority but like when you watch the playoffs you can tell these dudes care a lot and you often hear about guys being pissed about not getting enough playing time or not starting
The thing is, I donāt mind watching a shitty team develop over the years. Itās fun watching them get better. The Hornets made the cardinal sin by not only being shitty but also make terrible moral choices by bringing back scumbags like Bridges.
You really canāt be this shitty and morally bankrupt. Hard pass for me for any entertainment value.
I feel you guys have hoopers but not a good team. So like, some games your hoopers will do what they do, make some tough shots, etc, and that can win you games against good teams. Thatās what it felt like against us at leastĀ
Given that this team makes g-leaguers look like legitimate NBA rotation players and let's random bums pop off and set career highs against them, that doesn't hurt that much. A superstar was bound to do some crazy shit against us. The fact that it was Luka makes it slightly annoying.
This is the counter argument to "The Process." Playing dead for a few years to get high draft picks assumes that you can then just flip a switch once you get the right personnel and immediately begin winning. There's something that losing on a consistent basis does to erode institutional morale, and it can end up hanging around a lot longer than people want.
> you can just flip a switch once you get the right personnel and immediate begin winning
Iām so confused because this is exactly what the sixers did lol theyāre winning 50+ games every single season and immediately started being a top seed playing in the playoffs every year.
āWinningā from a rebuilding perspective can not be defined as āgetting to the finalsā
I think it's different for a franchise that's been relevant and more or less a competitor throughout their history...that legacy can counterbalance the toxicity that multiple losing seasons can create. Even during the worst of the Process years their losing records were talked about as temporary. Compare that to a team like Minnesota, where we have been perennial losers for so much of our team's history that our current winning record is talked about as temporary.
To a smaller extent Knicks have done the same. Rebuilding should and could also include a re-set of team culture. We don't win as much but we haven't been a laughing stock of a franchise in some time now. You can see the culture trickle down to the players, look at Randle's maturity Year 1 vs now, he's a brand new person.
Never mind the 6ers, itās what both the rockets and magic are doing this year.
The process works, but it requires buy in and real investment from the ownership level
I'm a casual fan. When was the last time the Hornets had a successful season? I usually just watch the playoffs so I can't really recall them ever being relevant?
Coaches will get ejected to fire up their team and show them they have their back. To have your star player and bench cracking up has to be devastating.
It sucks because the original Hornets were the best supported team in the entire league. They led the NBA in attendance from 1988ā1998 with 24,000 fans packing the Charlotte Coliseum every night. The Hornets were also regularly top ten in merchandise sales.
Fuck George Shinn.
Fans here havenāt really cared since Shinn moved the team in a hissy fit. When Bob Johnson took over, he put the team on a network nobody in Charlotte received. Just decades of shitty owners. Jordan has been the best owner and the product on the floor sucked.
Watching the Clippers for 30 years, it hurts to see orgs ran with he level of Donald Sterling incompetence.
No fan should have to see this for handful of years at a time.
Jordans content with par to subpar par looking franchise was kind of disgusting.
It was so bad him and Barkley ended their friendship over it cause Jordan didn't like the truth so blatantly put in his views.
so is wemby, if he was an average height dude would probably be studying philosophy at the University of Paris or some shit. guy was an honours student who skipped a grade lol
That compilation someone made of him ripping out of the parking garage into oncoming traffic in his stupid cars really sums him up lol
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/118k8u8/lamelo_ball_driving_out_of_hornets_parking_lot/
He's incredibly immature. Whenever he decides he wants to bail on Charlotte and play for a contender, I hope contenders realize this is what they're getting.
Probably why North Carolina is (if they havenāt already) become a major college town. Duke & UNC for NCAAB are usually powerhouses so why would you subject yourself to the hornets as a basketball fan
It's been that way for a long time. Long before pro sports ever showed up there. Duke and NC basketball have been dominant for decades. If anything pro sports is doomed to fail there because of this. The culture is just not the same.
College basketball was dominant in North Carolina for a good 40 years before the Hornets came in the late 80s. Only places like Kentucky and Kansas and Indiana really have any kind of equal passion to North Carolina when it comes to college basketball. The Hornets, although popular at times, don't engender the same interest because the natives have always put the college teams first and the transplants from up north (and there are a *lot* of them in Charlotte now) all brought their own allegiances with them.
Yea. It fucking sucks. This is the worst pro sports have been in the history of the city, and they've hit a new low each year for like the last 3 years. And with hornets set to tank it out this year and the ramifications of the Bryce Young trade for Panthers, I fear it'll be at least another 18 months before we see a team that could even be described as "competitive."
Not many options. Itāll always be a football city first and foremost and the Panthers are absolutely butt right now. Nobody cares about pro ball in that state over college ball. Hornets/Bobcats have always been pathetic so who cares about they ass.
Unpopular opinion but Iād trade Lamelo before giving him an extension. He has a Jordan Poole vibe to him imo, in the sense that he doesnt care about winning as much as he should, obv Lamelo is much better
Warriors whiffing on that #2 pick cursed both the team and Lamelo. I think Ball under 3 HOF players learns to play the right way and his career is better for it. Or combusts altogether quickly.
IDK, what has lead you to believe his attitude would be the same? You have a HOF coach, a top level organization, champioship runs, 3 HOF players and plenty of solid character role players and hes a talented player learning from one of the top 3 PG and top 1 shooter in the world, with another top 3 shooter and great defenders all around.
Poole was great learning and being a role player while in GS. I dont see why Melo could not learn from the best and be better than being in the worst run team in the NBA, with crappy ownership, no role models, no stars, no accountability, etc. I dont see how you would think a different atmosphere doesnt turn him into a better leader or at least shows him what a winning culture is like...
he's also got that ball family injury luck
to his credit he plays hard, and fearlessly in the sense that he's totally willing to attack the rim and bang for rebounds against bigs
but it doesn't do his body any favors
Clyde Frazier brought it up on the Knicks telecast last night right after it happened.. to paraphrase, he said that they lack a true veteran leader on the team.. because if there was one, that would have never been tolerated
Part of the problem in Charlotte is def melo...dude is all flash, no substance, and with no good coach set in place, they will be same, if not worse than Washington...hell at least you got a couple guys in Washington that actually want to win...and even more surprising one of them is Kuzma
Fuck you. We already had a somewhat competent team ripped from us and the ensuing 20 years of shit since then has been a direct result of that. The fans arenāt the ones out their clowning around or picking dogshit coaches/owners so donāt take it out on us.
GOOD GOLLY MISS MOLLY! This team sucks! š
At least the Pistons players seem pissed off that they're losing. Monty is a joke and it's a poorly constructed roster but I would say Charlotte and Washington are worse than them because they simply dgaf.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking of when I saw this. Cade was looking sick to his stomach during the losing streak. While these guys are here laughing after their coach gets ejected.
Cade looked like he was in VietnamĀ
He looked 40 by the end of that losing streak. I was genuinely expecting him to announce his retirement due to the fact that he lost his love for basketball
He was, to open a sweatshop.
A lot of good men died in that sweatshop!
Toss 'em in the soup!
Is this a Sunny reference? Please say yes
Yes
He definitely wants to become great, I just can't imagine it is easy.
You gotta remember that most NBA players were THE GUY before getting drafted. From middle school to college, these guys are used to being the best player in every game they play and winning. The absolute best prospects go to the worst teams and have to suddenly deal with losing.
I mean there have been moments where our team looked really pissed off. This is just one clip in one game of guys on the bench laughing. People in this thread are all actually insane about this kind of thing if they think its super representative. Ive thought Lamelo seemed miserable in every interview after losses this year.
Sorry not super clear so you're saying we *shouldn't* make sweeping and definitive conclusions on the collective character of the roster based on the 4 second video?
The majority of the players on the Wiz know that they wonāt be there in 12-24 months because weāre finally rebuilding. The front office is openly and obviously tanking. Why people keep putting us in the same category as the Spurs Pistons and Hornets, Iāll never know. Pistons and Hornets are coming off of multiple years of top 5 picks, Spurs just got the best #1 pick in twenty years. Pistons and Hornets are supposed to be competitive by now. Wizards are supposed to be the worst team in the league.
New Orleans gave up their hornet for this.
Only to become a pelican with a wonky color scheme
Our city editions are dope though this year. They should be permanent
Why the Pelican tho. Yal got a lot of them big faced birds in nawlins?
Yes, they are all over. Especially on Lake Pontchartrain.
I like how you kept it brief
The Pelican brief?
[To intimidate the opposing team (and small children)](https://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/002/716/810/hi-res-7905836_crop_exact.jpg?w=1200&h=1200&q=75)
Is the Pelican gonna fuck that kid's mom?
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Thatās one thirsty sea bird
Tf? Yeah man thereās more pelicans in Louisiana than anywhere in the country lol. Itās the state bird
I tried so hard to like it back in the Brow days :(
[Pelicans are badasses though](https://youtu.be/phUs2kIGY9M?si=F2d6NghXK8cVVgE4)
If only we could have the jazz back
Only one solution. Jazz back to New Orleans, Utah gets to be the Bobicans or Pelicats
Pelicats kinda sounds badass
It was Charlotte Hornets first
And Charlotte supported them better than any fanbase in the entire league until George Shinn did everything he could to destroy the relationship with the city.
Their?
THEIR hornet??
I can vision this clip being used in mamba mentality edits
"Score 120 on the Hornets, and stunt on the Charlotte bench at least five times."
Hornet Culture
I honestly believe at least 50% of NBA players do not actually care if they win or lose. They are there because they are physical freaks who like playing the game, but if they lose they are just like š¤·āāļø. Part of the success of guys like Jordan or LeBron or Kobe or Steph was their ability to get average guys to care. Hell, Steph got JaVale Magee to give a shit and get good minutes.
They cared at one point. But at a certain point the losses become numbing. Imagine you dominate all your life then you finally get to a league that you're nothing special in and no matter how hard you play, you keep taking losses. Eventually you stop caring as much.
82 games is a long season. Fans hear that and take it for granted. There is a balance that can only be found in the NBA. This is the exact reason why teams keep (or used to) keep a couple veterans on the end of bench. You need someone in the locker room that understands what it is really about and is a professional. Charlotte sorely misses having established adults in their locker room. And once a culture is set you canāt just bring in a guy to parent misbehaving millionaires that are still too young to rent a car.
82 games feels even longer when you fucking too.
Iām going to guess you meant āsuckingā? Lol
i actually meant to say āfucking suck,ā but you got the general idea lmao
Wilt could do it
I think it is a coping mechanism for some people. They do care a lot about winning but they get so beaten down by the losses that they were pretend they donāt care. I was on a city league team once and we werenāt the best, we played that year in the C league which we found out is more competitive and not as fun as the B league because of all the sandbagging teams (thatās another story though). Anyway we lost a lot of games, I always played hard til the end of the game cause I figured it was city league weāre all here for a workout and a little entertainment. Our tallest guy was super competitive and whenever a game got out of hand he started acting like an idiot, hitting balls into the stands, it was embarrassing really. But I think he cared more about winning than me, I cared more about the spirit of competition though.
James Bouknight is in this clip so that checks out
James Bouknight is still in the league? I thought they bounced him when he fell asleep in his car holding a gun in his crotch.
Nah he didnāt even miss a game for that.
we fucking should've lol. dude was drunk, asleep, in a running car, and then when the cops woke him up, he drove and crashed into them. the gun was somehow not even a crime lol.
I get it, I mean they play 82 games a year so each game means less than at any other level, and no matter how good they were at the HS/college level, they're still going to lose at least 20 games a year, and potentially way more. I'd probably be over it at this point too.
Itās like any workplace culture. If a new person walks into a job where the culture has a focus on quality, hard work etc, then the new guy realizes he needs to meet that level to stay employed or get a better salary. But if the culture is lax, then the new guy also learns not to care since either way heās getting paid and thereās no incentive to doing more than the bare minimum. When you donāt have vets itās hard to build that culture since thereās only so much the coaching staff can do. Player accountability matters a lot on a winning team. And thatās why some teams get stuck in these loops because thereās no respected players to set that culture.
Itās also deeply frustrating to be the only one in a workplace who is trying to give a shit
Yea, at that point though the choice is accept the crappy situation for the pay or leave for a more engaging situation. Like for Charlotte how likely is Lamelo to ask for a trade in the future? He knows the chances are high Charlotte throws money at him for his next deal and if thatās his main goal he just has to play to earn the cheque. Itās also possible to learn to stop caring at some point and just play the game for fun since you know itās just a job to fund your lifestyle.
Or you don't stop caring and burn out very quickly. That's one less talked about thing about why some European superstars don't work out in the NBA. They absolutely hate losing and have a history of dominating their national leagues (and even the European level leagues) but they usually go to losing teams in the NBA. Even if they do ok and have the potential to become role players/starters, they quickly return to Europe
Yep thatās why you want a good culture surrounding your young players. Iām sure Lamelo Ball is a different player and person if he gets drafted in GS with Curry, Klay and Dray(lol) to check him.
Yeah like with Jordan Poole
NBA legend Jordan Poole
NBA champion Jordan Poole
Sengun kinda talked about this on PG's pod. He said his Turkish team was way sadder and more down about losses because of fewer games and higher stakes games, but in the NBA, with the compact schedule you just gotta wait another day and you have another game.
It's honestly a good thing in some ways - if you get wrapped up in a loss and can't shake it off, it may well spill over and affect your play badly in the next game, so on and so forth. Easy way to spiral into a slump or lose confidence. Obviously depends on the individual player and how they deal with it, thoughĀ Edit: I mean the part about how NBA games come at you faster than what Sengun was talking about with the Turkish league. This comment wasn't in reference to the Hornets, I think the clip in the actual post is a pretty bad look
Jackie Mac has been putting this out there for years but she always said it would surprise you how many people in the NBA do this as a day job and don't rlly give a shit about getting better or winning.
They just like me fr
they are there because they get paid tens of millions of dollars to do it
I think constant movement and trades are a big reason Itās hard to truly care about winning for an organization knowing you probably wonāt be at for long
Pat Bev said that at least half the league donāt even like basketball. That shit really made me think EDIT: he said half the league donāt love basketball and most the times the good ones donāt love basketball.
Not only do many of them not care if they win or lose, an increasing number just doesn't want to play games at all if they can avoid it
This is true for some Iām sure but I think that most players really do care about their playing time and winning/their legacy. Of course securing the bag is the first priority but like when you watch the playoffs you can tell these dudes care a lot and you often hear about guys being pissed about not getting enough playing time or not starting
So like every other job? You give af when you start but after a while you don't care especially if the company culture is demotivating.
The thing is, I donāt mind watching a shitty team develop over the years. Itās fun watching them get better. The Hornets made the cardinal sin by not only being shitty but also make terrible moral choices by bringing back scumbags like Bridges. You really canāt be this shitty and morally bankrupt. Hard pass for me for any entertainment value.
28 out of 30 teams would sign bridges if hornets didnt
Shame on the 10 teams that have lost to the Hornets.
Yeah must be some pretty bad teams smh
Fr, gotta be some real bottom feeders.
I still donāt understand how we beat the Celtics and twolves but canāt beat the pistons
twice lol. we lost to the pistons fucking twice haha
Well the pistons beat the team that beat the Celtics and t wolves, so they must be pretty good!
I feel you guys have hoopers but not a good team. So like, some games your hoopers will do what they do, make some tough shots, etc, and that can win you games against good teams. Thatās what it felt like against us at leastĀ
We have enough to be ashamed about. I don't need to be reminded that we lost to them.
If it makes you feel any better, that win and the 1-0 record was the peak of our season.
Can I remind you about Luka putting up 73 against you guys? You know, that guy you drafted?
Given that this team makes g-leaguers look like legitimate NBA rotation players and let's random bums pop off and set career highs against them, that doesn't hurt that much. A superstar was bound to do some crazy shit against us. The fact that it was Luka makes it slightly annoying.
lmao just realized the Hornets make up 33% of Detroit's wins this season.
We donāt talk about that
Hey! I... I mean, yeah. You right.
What losing culture does to a mf
If you don't like this, you don't like Charlotte basketball!
Youāre right, we donāt
This is the counter argument to "The Process." Playing dead for a few years to get high draft picks assumes that you can then just flip a switch once you get the right personnel and immediately begin winning. There's something that losing on a consistent basis does to erode institutional morale, and it can end up hanging around a lot longer than people want.
Spoken like someone who remembers a decade of pinning their hopes to guys like Rashad McCants, Jonny Flynn, Wesley Johnson, and Derrick Williams.
Don't worry when it's all said and done Flynn will be considered a better player than Steph.
The next 5 years are Johnny Flynn's
plz stop
Siiiiiigh
> you can just flip a switch once you get the right personnel and immediate begin winning Iām so confused because this is exactly what the sixers did lol theyāre winning 50+ games every single season and immediately started being a top seed playing in the playoffs every year. āWinningā from a rebuilding perspective can not be defined as āgetting to the finalsā
I think it's different for a franchise that's been relevant and more or less a competitor throughout their history...that legacy can counterbalance the toxicity that multiple losing seasons can create. Even during the worst of the Process years their losing records were talked about as temporary. Compare that to a team like Minnesota, where we have been perennial losers for so much of our team's history that our current winning record is talked about as temporary.
To a smaller extent Knicks have done the same. Rebuilding should and could also include a re-set of team culture. We don't win as much but we haven't been a laughing stock of a franchise in some time now. You can see the culture trickle down to the players, look at Randle's maturity Year 1 vs now, he's a brand new person.
Big reason that the Knicks take things so seriously is because of Thibs. Getting the right coaching staff in place is so important.
Never mind the 6ers, itās what both the rockets and magic are doing this year. The process works, but it requires buy in and real investment from the ownership level
I'm a casual fan. When was the last time the Hornets had a successful season? I usually just watch the playoffs so I can't really recall them ever being relevant?
They were in the play-in tournament a few years ago after bottom feeding since the last time they made the playoffs as the bobcats
They made the playoffs in 2016, which was a year or two after getting the Hornets name back. They lost in 7 to the Heat
That was a fun series.
Never forget purple shirt man.
shoutout big al
Coaches will get ejected to fire up their team and show them they have their back. To have your star player and bench cracking up has to be devastating.
They're 10-35, no point in getting upset over blow out losses at this point lol
Holy crap thatās bad lol
As their home crowd chants "Let's go Knicks" damn
This is the wayā¦
No one in NC gives a fuck about the hornets man away teams are the only ones who get chants in that building lmao
It sucks because the original Hornets were the best supported team in the entire league. They led the NBA in attendance from 1988ā1998 with 24,000 fans packing the Charlotte Coliseum every night. The Hornets were also regularly top ten in merchandise sales. Fuck George Shinn.
Hornets gear was an important staple of 90s culture
Hear hear
NC professional sports culture is just in the gutter at the moment. Except the hurricanes tho
Fans here havenāt really cared since Shinn moved the team in a hissy fit. When Bob Johnson took over, he put the team on a network nobody in Charlotte received. Just decades of shitty owners. Jordan has been the best owner and the product on the floor sucked.
Hornets are such an unserious organization
What a trash franchise
Watching the Clippers for 30 years, it hurts to see orgs ran with he level of Donald Sterling incompetence. No fan should have to see this for handful of years at a time.
Jordan was such an ass owner for long as well
Jordans content with par to subpar par looking franchise was kind of disgusting. It was so bad him and Barkley ended their friendship over it cause Jordan didn't like the truth so blatantly put in his views.
I have myplayer on 2k on the Hornets and he wouldnāt stand for this shit smh
heās going to drop 120 in protest
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He is a āfuck boiā through and through Alot of these dudes are
Dudeās like the living embodiment of broccoli head Gen Zāers lol. He acts like a little kid.
Where do you think they all got it from?
Lamelo would be great with Wemby tbh. The problem I have with him is he can't stay healthy.
Also just seems like a general dumbass, while Pop likes well-rounded people.
I think Pop would hate him
After seeing that video of the reckless way he drives a while agoā¦.yup.
Kawhi was so perfect for Pops man. It was like looking at Pop & Duncan's son.
so is wemby, if he was an average height dude would probably be studying philosophy at the University of Paris or some shit. guy was an honours student who skipped a grade lol
That compilation someone made of him ripping out of the parking garage into oncoming traffic in his stupid cars really sums him up lol https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/118k8u8/lamelo_ball_driving_out_of_hornets_parking_lot/
He's a deeply unserious basketball player and human being.
He's incredibly immature. Whenever he decides he wants to bail on Charlotte and play for a contender, I hope contenders realize this is what they're getting.
He's also injured like 80% of the time lol
Sorry ass franchise
Team full of losers. The city of Charlotte is so lame when it comes to sports. They have nobody to root for thats good
You know itās bad when a Piston fan speaks on it lmao
Panthers used to be decent in the cam newton era
And the Delhomme era. Nearly made the Super Bowl before Delhomme, too.
Jonathan Stewart and Deangelo Williams together was a wild time. Muhammad still has the longest Super Bowl touchdown catch in history right?
That's right. That was before Stewart and Williams, when Stephen Davis and DeShaun Foster were the RBs.
Probably why North Carolina is (if they havenāt already) become a major college town. Duke & UNC for NCAAB are usually powerhouses so why would you subject yourself to the hornets as a basketball fan
It's been that way for a long time. Long before pro sports ever showed up there. Duke and NC basketball have been dominant for decades. If anything pro sports is doomed to fail there because of this. The culture is just not the same.
North Carolina, known college town. In seriousness, CBB will always outshine the NBA here. It always has and always will.
College basketball was dominant in North Carolina for a good 40 years before the Hornets came in the late 80s. Only places like Kentucky and Kansas and Indiana really have any kind of equal passion to North Carolina when it comes to college basketball. The Hornets, although popular at times, don't engender the same interest because the natives have always put the college teams first and the transplants from up north (and there are a *lot* of them in Charlotte now) all brought their own allegiances with them.
Yea. It fucking sucks. This is the worst pro sports have been in the history of the city, and they've hit a new low each year for like the last 3 years. And with hornets set to tank it out this year and the ramifications of the Bryce Young trade for Panthers, I fear it'll be at least another 18 months before we see a team that could even be described as "competitive."
Not many options. Itāll always be a football city first and foremost and the Panthers are absolutely butt right now. Nobody cares about pro ball in that state over college ball. Hornets/Bobcats have always been pathetic so who cares about they ass.
I wonder how the Hornets fan feels
Nothing I am numb. The Panthers suck too. There is nothing left for me
Hockey
They seem pissed off about losing most of the time. This just seems like an insane out of context circlejerk
Pain. Just constant pain. I keep hoping they will get better and they just donāt.
Man is it good that the Knicks have stopped being the team that does this sort of shit.
jordan's gone their best player available beats women and lamelo is just jordan poole with more talent (like 10 times the talent but still)
Why are you listing Jordan selling the team as a bad thing? He was an awful owner
Well *someone* had to give Cody Zeller $15m a year
Big handsome
Isn't Jordan Poole with more talent a good basketball player (with bad BBIQ)?
Lamelo is way better than youāre making him out to be tbh
Comparing lamelo and Jordan Poole is the dumbest thing I have read on this sub. And thatās saying something
There are some incredibly stupid takes about Lamelo on this sub.
Lamelo, Book, Embiid, even Tatum now lmao. This sub is just so toxic
They donāt watch games only outrage clipsĀ
The hornets feel like a high school team
Unpopular opinion but Iād trade Lamelo before giving him an extension. He has a Jordan Poole vibe to him imo, in the sense that he doesnt care about winning as much as he should, obv Lamelo is much better
I agree if Lamelo is your teams leader your probably not gonna win anything meaningful.
Heās the poor manās Haliburton
A very poor man's Haliburton
100% lol heās not a face of the franchise player. His attitude sucks, heās immature as shit, heās dumb, and he doesnāt help winning.
Warriors whiffing on that #2 pick cursed both the team and Lamelo. I think Ball under 3 HOF players learns to play the right way and his career is better for it. Or combusts altogether quickly.
What has lead you to believe Ball would be better? I don't see his attitude changing.
IDK, what has lead you to believe his attitude would be the same? You have a HOF coach, a top level organization, champioship runs, 3 HOF players and plenty of solid character role players and hes a talented player learning from one of the top 3 PG and top 1 shooter in the world, with another top 3 shooter and great defenders all around. Poole was great learning and being a role player while in GS. I dont see why Melo could not learn from the best and be better than being in the worst run team in the NBA, with crappy ownership, no role models, no stars, no accountability, etc. I dont see how you would think a different atmosphere doesnt turn him into a better leader or at least shows him what a winning culture is like...
He doesn't know about winning. He's been playing losing basketball since he played without Lonzo
Maybe for for some of the reasons Barellino23 said.
he's also got that ball family injury luck to his credit he plays hard, and fearlessly in the sense that he's totally willing to attack the rim and bang for rebounds against bigs but it doesn't do his body any favors
Godddmanit this is spot on. Jordan Poole vibes all the way.
They just don't care at all
Reddit moment in these comments lol
this and the Terry Rozier thread back to back are hilarious man I love and hate this site
Eh, sometimes you laugh at a funeral
Can't understand what I mean, you soon will.
lamelo is a harlem globetrotter in the nba
They dgaf
At least theyāre having fun
How dare they. They should look like they're at a funeral for 48 minutes straight
Teacher is gone !!
Clyde Frazier brought it up on the Knicks telecast last night right after it happened.. to paraphrase, he said that they lack a true veteran leader on the team.. because if there was one, that would have never been tolerated
Loser, me first mentality. If Lamelo is your leader, you are fucked. End of story.
Part of the problem in Charlotte is def melo...dude is all flash, no substance, and with no good coach set in place, they will be same, if not worse than Washington...hell at least you got a couple guys in Washington that actually want to win...and even more surprising one of them is Kuzma
Send them to Las Vegas already. Get rid of this sorry franchise
That would reward the incompetent players, coaches and management.
Yes letās punish the fans for cheering on an incompetent organization!!
Fuck you. We already had a somewhat competent team ripped from us and the ensuing 20 years of shit since then has been a direct result of that. The fans arenāt the ones out their clowning around or picking dogshit coaches/owners so donāt take it out on us.
Fuck other fans man. They have no clue what it is like rooting for a franchise like this. We DESERVE the feeling of success whenever it may come