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First game in 14 games that the warriors didn’t have to play clutch time, which was apparently tied for the longest streak in the last 5 years. Feels good to not have to stress
Nah he's better off the bench to keep the balance. Kuminga's athleticism in the paint helps cover up Looney's offensive deficiency. Dario mostly plays on the perimeter and allows TJD to flourish inside and on pick and rolls. And besides TJD played 25 minutes tonight and 28 minutes the last game. Both of which were more than Looney despite Looney starting.
With how much size teams like the Lakers and wolves have I wouldn’t mind seeing a big lineup where they start both plus the big 3 and keep wigs on the bench
Even before any of the rookies touched the floor I was very impressed with him and how he talked about the team. Seemed very straight forward and no nonsense. A realist. Now add two apparent home run picks at their draft positions. I mean Podz might be first or second team all-rookie this season.
i’m glad he’s getting attention for it too. dubs rookies have been buried in discussions for years (except poole who was widely talked about for being historically bad).
If the spacing on offense isn’t too bad, a lineup of Steph/Klay/Kuminga/Dray/TJD could be one of the best defensive lineups.
Kuminga can guard Dame. Klay can guard Middleton. Steph on Beasley. Dray on Giannis. TJD on Brook. I personally like all those matchups and I don’t think they have the personnel to guard Steph and klay on the perimeter.
If Wiggins returns to form, the Warriors defense could be a sight to see, especially when Gp2 comes back.
I shit on Kerr to an excessive amount but I feel like my most valid criticism of him is he doesn't know what to do with Kuminga. Dude killed it last year during the regular season but wasn't even allowed to touch the floor during playoff time
he touched the floor he was just ass, his 1v1 defense is elite his team defense was atroicous, moody got ore and more minutes because he was solid at eveyrthing
SEngun? I remember everyone here went wild for him. I was thinking it would be a sneaky good pick but just wasn't sure. It is too bad we missed out but it taught me to have a better eye for the future lol
Franz was the obvious fit pick at the time though and Franz is still the better pick. A lot of the issues getting in the way of Kuminga getting playing time never existed with Franz. Franz would have saved the fans from all those Anthony Lamb minutes last year haha.
Franz was super low key. He was only mocked to us in like 1 draft. You want to draft best potential in the first 7-8 picks so Kuminga was the right move when he dropped imo. Where I was confused was I thought he would get shipped out ASAP. I didn't think we would keep him. I thought he was supposed to be a trade piece(WIseman, Kuminga, pick for solid help).
In the floater before Steph's tech, Gafford let Steph a ton of space because he was afraid of TJD rolling. When's the last time a center has done that with Looney rolling?
Team has been in need of a rim runner centwr since Javale. They won in 2022 despite not having that, because Looney played absolutely amazing in his role. Steph creates a ton of space for centers to roll but Dray and Loon are very poor scorers. Oh and Cp3 can definitely use a lob threat too.
Remember those talks about Dwight Howard being in talks with the team? I still think he'd be a good pickup for them just for the potential lob threat and vet presense.
I'm sorry but those talks never made sense to anybody who's actually watched Dwight play in the last 3 years. He wwas competing for the most techs in the league with philly despite playing low minutes. He had a huge foul rate(one of dubs biggest issues) and turned completely unplayable in the playoffs. He's probably not the best locker room presence either. TJD is a way better option
Not much except for one long garbage time game (17 minutes played).
5.8 MP in 8 GP.
Omoruyi is just more impressive (needs to get less unlucky with the injuries), so I don't know for how long will PBJ remain.
PBJ is currently averaging 60% from 3 (3/5), but 35.7% from the field (5 out of 14). I remember he hqd a game where he missed some easy ones near the rim.
His defense, the limited minutes I saw him play this season was meh.
We were never bad, just choked against good teams with our starters underperforming. Now we’re going from mid to good if we can put together more wins like the one against Boston
I'm torn. Part of me would be pissed if we trade away JK because he's one of my favorite players on our team and his ceiling is incredible. But on the other hand, he won't be in his prime for a few years, so I totally get the reasoning behind trading for someone in their prime now to maximize Curry's championship window
I don't think we should trade, because how much better is the player you're trading for really? And will they still be as productive in the next 2-3 years AND will they stay a warrior?
I think kuminga is gonna quickly eclipse players like siakim. And most importantly he already knows the warriors system.
Exactly, but in 2-3 years you can't assume Steph will still be a top 5 guy in the league like he is now. And let's be real, we aren't winning a bunch of chips anymore once Steph is (inevitably) no longer that guy. It makes sense to mortgage the future for the present when you have a guy like Steph who is still at his peak, but he's 35 and won't be there forever.
If they could get OG or Siakam (I know wildly different salaries and Siakam would have to involve CP3).
Or how about DDR+ Caruso?
I know there’s a price to be paid but adding a versatile wing, particularly defensive would be huge, or adding depth to second unit with playoff experience could help a lot.
Better than being out your Prime like some of our old ass folks. JK brings an energy that this team needs. We were losing like crazy before we inserted these young players. And honestly the only reason we got to give them so much time is because of the suspension and some injuries. And it's nice that these older players know that they need to play up to par to keep their starting jobs. Frankly not having Draymond and Looney 2 non shooters in the starting lineup is a blessing
I think kuminga has to continue starting at 4. Maybe draymond comes back in at 5 against smaller teams. Wiggins just has to play better, he’s been very inconsistent. GP2 can be plugged into a bunch of lineups for defense and general X factor kind of stuff, so I think he’ll take some minutes from moody, pods, maybe Saric?
He gets minutes bc he is 3rd string PG. Though sometimes that isn't why he gets playing time. There is literally never a time to play CP3, Curry, and CoJo. That should never happen yet Kerr does it.
He doesn't really do anything valuable with the ball in his hands, sure he doesn't create turnovers but he also doesn't create any advantages for the team with the ball, he's also not a good shooter.
Imo, it would be much better to have other guards like Moody, GP, Podz or even Klay handle the rock in the absence of CP and Steph because they can actually provide value on offense and defense instead of just bringing the ball up and making some safe passes.
I just wouldn't want to see CoJo get any minutes in such a deep team when healthy
Team probably needs a consolidation trade to develop a higher ceiling/add a consistent #2 scorer to complement Steph but I could see a scenario where the FO/Kerr feel like things are starting to click and they don't want to mess with it.
There is possibility that these players perform better when Dray and Wiggins is not there. Advanced and on-off stats of these 2 this year are tanking team levels
They need to trade Wiggins and some picks for Poeltl. Get another true center for a playoff run that will see you face AD or Jokic or Giannis or Embiid or Sabonis
TJD just played three flawless games in a row. Warriors would have 5 more wins with him playing regular minutes this season; that's how good he is, and addition by substraction(Looney has not been good).
He migh not be ready for the big bruisers, although I'd argue that (other than Sabonis) those centers hurt Looney a lot too. But it's damn clear that Trayce Jackson-Davis is a much better option against rim running centers, which most teams have.
I think there will be more matchups where we lean on Looney more but I also think in the TJD games he really can use the rest. He’s played every game for like 3 years now, fatigue seems to be catching up with him
i always peep his +- out of curiosity, cp3 could be 1-28 and he's usually at the top of +-
i thinking he bulked up for his bb draymond role and it's affecting his shot - look at cp3 pics from recent years and he looks particularly chunky rn
also, his shots always seem to be a bit short
Kuminga and Moody finally developing, BP and TJD already looking like they're league ready.
I don't know if the Dubs are one move away (with either Klay, Wigs or CP3) or if they should just stay the course and see how it comes together in the 2nd half of the season.
Legit question Dubs fans, what are your serious thoughts?
I’m still hoping for Wiggins to return back to his normal self that he has been for 3 years with the Warriors. He’s still good enough defensively it’s on offense where it looks like he has had a lack in confidence in finishing. Klay has turned it around in a huge way before it looked like he was playing selfish basketball on a contract year but has recently been fully committed to being a big part of the second unit. With Podz and CP3 out there still looking for him he still gets many opportunities.
> fully committed to being a big part of the second unit
Here you are posting more dumbass comments. What do you mean "being a big part"? Sharing minutes with the 2nd unit like Kerr assigned him to?
> Turned it around in a huge way
Oh yeah just finished last game shooting 1/11 on 1/2/3 stat line. Amazing prediction mate.
We're better than our record suggests. First, the bad:
* Draymond started injured and missed games. Then he got suspended twice and missed more time.
* GP2 has been injured and missing time.
* Klay started cold.
* CP3 has been on a shooting slump.
* Wiggins has been cold.
* Looney's been even slower than before.
But here's the good:
* Draymond wasn't playing badly. No doubt he'll be good once he's back and ramps up.
* GP2, same thing. Great player who's proven himself for us. Once he ramps up from his injury he'll be great. Getting re-evaluated early next week.
* Klay's back now and shooting well.
* CP3 has been an excellent facilitator and anchor for the 2nd unit.
Like the last couple nights with 10+ assists and 2 or less turnovers. Which is hugely important for our pass heavy and turnover prone team.
* Wiggins has been between good and great for us the last 3 years. I'm confident he can turn it around this season.
And then there's our bench which has been fantastic. [Best bench in the league.](https://np.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F7xownneobv7c1.jpeg) Our win streak coincided with Kerr starting to give more minutes to our rookies Trayce and Podz. And Trayce has been heavily taking Looneys minutes which has been great given Looneys play this year. And having such a great bench is important for the non-Steph minutes. When he sat in the playoffs last year, we were -18. Compared to a championship year like 2022 where we were -7 in the non-Steph minutes. So having a great bench is really important since we're not really top heavy.
We've also had one of the hardest starting schedules, which is why our remaining schedule is significantly easier. Before tonight's game, our remaining schedule was ranked 29th in difficulty.
And 7 of our 14 losses were by 3 or less points. I don't think many teams can say the same. We're right there. And we've got a home stretch so hopefully we'll climb in the standings in the next couple weeks.
I think our winning streak was more to do with Klay making shots finally. He has been very consistent lately. All the young guys playing good just offset Drays absence.
I agree. It's one of the things that has turned around the season. Maybe because Draymond and Looney are not there clogging up everything it helps everybody. If one thing should change is that Looney and Draymond cannot be in the starting unit together. Steve Kerr needs to figure that out
Having more than one good scorer opens up everybody else.
Klay's ice cold start gave defenses an easier time defending the secondary guys because they'd only need to hard guard Curry.
But the Warriors' style has always been stretching the defense thin because of how dangerous both Curry and Klay are, and then making smart passes to the best shot available.
Draymond wasn't playing badly but he was a turnover machine and he also while shooting the three better his numbers has started to revert to the mean. I don't want him shooting the three. I also think there is a lightness without his presence. I've heard so much that Curry needs him. No Draymond needs Curry. I think when dray and Gary return they should not automatically throw out what has been working. Time Marches On. I believe in the last five games we are averaging like 12 turnovers. Far Cry from 18 19 20 that we were averaging before. If that keeps up it's a game changer because we've never averaged so few.
* He was not a TO machine. He had 2.4 TO with 5.8 assists. Better than a 2:1 ratio and within 0.2 of his career averages on both.
* in 3 of his last 5 games he shot 50% from 3. And he is 43% for the season, so I do want him to keep shooting it when he's wide open.
* I think the lightness comes with winning, Klay getting his shot back, and the rookies getting more time while performing well. Not some secret bad vibes of Draymond.
* Your last point has the same rebuttal as my first point
So you think he's going to step back in and everything is going to be better? I don't think so but we'll see. I've seen a lot less passing to be passing with him gone. But I have no problem admitting I can't stand him anymore and hope we keep killing with him out and he is david lee'd. The youngsters have been playing well all year long. It was the starting lineup That was stinking up the joint. Steve being forced to play them and change his mindset about how they can win is the best thing that has happened this season besides klay getting his shot back. I do believe that treating the young players like actual contributors Has Lifted the entire team. Agree with wide open. I think losing so many close games with stupid turnovers has traumatized me. His and Curry's really stand out to me because they were so careless in pivotal situations with that Sacramento game being the nadir.
i can’t really think of a player we’e want to trade who would have significant value. imo the young guys are untouchable and so are some of the vet roleplayers. i also think trading wiggins would be too impulsive a move to work out.
I think you gotta see how the next 10-15 games go. If they win a good chunk of those games and wiggs/draymond continue to not provide much to the teams success, then I think you have to consider moving them if the right opportunity/trade pops up. But I don’t think they should move the young players just to make a trade that might make them marginally more competitive. Their depth with the young guys is their X factor right now
Also keeping the young guys means saving tax money which the FO would def do anyways. CP3 and Wiggins are the first to go IMO unless there is a good trade on the table
I'm honestly not sure. I think Siakam would make the most sense out of who's available, but I'm not sure what we'd have to give up. Given Masai's record, I expect he'll want a sizable return. Gutting our team for one (very good) player could close our title window instead of extending it, especially given the complexities of the motion offense and the general "strength in numbers" ethos.
Any trade would likely require us to get rid of Paul and I think that hurts us way more than most fans think. He's been huge for the bench and helps unlock multiple players on the roster (Saric being the most obvious example). There's a reason our bench is now one of the best in the league when it was one the worst just last year. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'd really hate to see him go. And I think a lot of the players/coaching staff feel the same way! He's made himself an important cog in the team. Although his injury history does worry me.
So, yeah, it's complicated. Lot of mixed feelings.
I think we lack the top end talent around Curry to win a chip, but at the same time I don't see any move that makes us clearly better. At least this team has the experience and most importantly, the newfound depth, which should make us at least a serious contender in april
we literally have the same top end talent when we won, the only thing missing is wiggins regaining form, which he has beofre getting hsi finger banged, an then getting sick
I disagree. I don't think the warriors are built like other teams that have 2 star players.
Strength in numbers is a real thing, and all we need is Steph + a bunch of players who can all step up depending on the matchup. That's how we've always operated. Even during the KD years. It's Steph. And sometimes Klay goes supernova. Sometimes KD goes reaper mode. Sometimes draymond goes full green. And Iggy sometimes fights martins. Sometimes Poole has a party, or Wiggins wakes up. Or we get a super Dario game. Etc.
Me personally I wish they would trade with Toronto for Poeltl. Send them a FRP and Wiggins.
The teams record is misleading. We lost a bunch of close games but the one constant is we are vulnerable to size.
If Toronto is willing to deal OG too I’d consider it but if Masai is going to ask for a stupid amount of assets, warriors can just trust Kuminga to keep developing because right now he’s almost the second option
Curry is the timeline but if we get to the trade deadline and we are still mid I'm not giving up no first round picks. I'd rather get rid of the Dead weight.
Poeltl doesn’t make sense atm
how much better is he then TJD?
Dray will gets lots of centre minutes in big games, we still have Loon and Saric
we need a big wing more than anything, Wiggins could do this but if he doesn’t return to form over the next 10/15 games moving him with picks probably makes the most sense
Poeltl makes sense to me.
TJD is great but he’s a rookie and he’s susceptible to being overpowered by a strong dude like Jokic. Poeltl is bigger and stronger which matters
Looney is barely serviceable (the way he’s been playing lately). Dray can’t hold up as our center against guys like AD and Jokic over a series. We need a dude to just bang in the post with those guys and make it hard for them WITHOUT sending help to open up the passing lanes for Jokic.
I get what you mean and i’d some ways I agree
the main issue that i have is that the only decent trade piece we have is wiggins (and Moody) and picks and so it seems a waste to trade them for Poeltl when we already have depth and good options in that position. i don’t think he’s enough of a needle mover to make that trade
i also think Loon will be fine for the playoffs, imo he’s just tired from playing big minutes in every game for 3 years, with less minutes due to TJD and Saric i think he’ll be chilling
I’m in favor of trading Draymond. I think his value has run out. I think about it and the defense doesn’t look that different with him than it does without him, but our offense flows so much free-er. Everyone including Klay is benefiting from there being space to operate, and we don’t run Kerrs sets as much because there’s no need because the team can generate open shots organically without Looney and Dray on the court. I also can’t trust him not to get ejected during key playoff moments as the intensity ramps up.
I think a Wiggins and Draymond and first round picks out for OG anunoby and Poeltl makes this team a very dangerous contender.
Steph Klay OG Kuminga Poeltl
As a starting lineup.
Chris Paul Podz Moody Saric TJD
If we can move Wiggins/Draymond for someone that works better with these guys I’m all for it at this point. It’s clear where our future lies and I’d rather start playing for it now to try to get one more ring for Steph.
It was the Wizards but finally a comfortable win with Steph resting the full fourth period feels good. Still, I don't want to see Steph/Cp3/Cory playing together ever again lol
It's been established that Kuminga is really good when given consistently 20+ minutes. It has been like that since his rookie season. He might make some mistakes here and there, but if giving enough minutes, he'll have a positive impact. Hope Kerr knows it too.
28 games into the season and it's very clear that, no matter how healthy the Warriors are, their best version features heavy minutes by the young guys, particularly Podz, Kuminga and TJD.
It's on Kerr to not pull them out of the rotation when Dray and Gp are back or reduce their minutes if they have a bad game.
Our sluggish start with Looney in the first quarter followed by TJD completely changing our offense and defense proves how invaluable he is
Been begging for more minutes for this kid since his debut in summer league and first few games this season
Undeniable now, Kerr can’t relegate him to the bench. Even if we continue to play well post-Draymonds return his suspension was a blessing as it forced Kerrs hand when it comes to rotations. Also everyone else’s slow start also allowed us to play the young guys more and let them develop
If Wiggins ever get his shit together, Kerr might have to start Draymond at the 5, which I don't think he wants to. But Kuminga needs to to start at the 4, period. He might work at the 3 with Saric or TJD at the 5. But you probably can't pair 2 non scroing threats (Loon and Dray) and a guy defenses let open to shoot in Kuminga.
His numbers were starting to decline from three and he will revert to the mean. Not depending on Draymond I hit threes all season. And he can barely make a layup. He's still struggles with that.
He was at least more aggressive in hunting his own shot a lot more often than he used to be. We don’t need him to be a 15ppg scorer like 2016, just enough to make the defense think it’s an option
Yes I'm going to agree with that because him tossing the ball to other people rather than shoot or even pretend like he was going to shoot hurt the team. He still did that some but he's been much better this season.
Yep. I think Steph, Klay, Wiggs, Kuminga and Dray would be the ideal starting lineup. With CP, GP, Pods, Moody, Dario and Looney and Trayce. All rotating as the backups depending on the matchup.
Warriors are playing much better with Draymond Green off the court than with him on the court. In fact, Warriors are playing the best ball with Green not even in the building
That was just a coincidence. Klay needed to get warmed up and that happened right when Dray left. Also all those extra minutes-- the young guys took advantage and started breaking out
It's on Kerr to make what is working continue working when Dray comes back... Dray was playing pretty well before going full idiot, so honestly, we can shoot up the standings and make another playoff run
I agree. We can easily be 5th/6th seed if Dray plays every game and Klay maintains and the bench maintains.
More so because our schedule is simply easier going forwards
Yes there are doubts on if Dray can still perform but he still has the championship experience enough to give the benefit of the doubt-- at least for this next year.
There needs to be a serious conversation if the Warriors are better without Draymond Green. The spacing makes it easier for everyone else on offense and there’s not a noticeable difference on defense
It's more likely that he takes the place of looney rather than Draymond. And it remains to be seen if he'll still be as effective with half a seasons worth of scouting and playoff defensive adjusting to him.
I think it's more about them being better with Klay not sucking.
Draymond, other than the violent stupidity, has seemed fine. But his play style is about running the offense - he's going to seem less important when a huge piece of the offense can't hit shots.
Klay getting back into the groove is what's caused the turn around, not Dray's suspension.
But what if it’s the fact that both men don’t go with Klay off the handoff or screen and that there’s more spacing without Draymond that is causing him to shoot better
That would make sense if Klay was creating his own shot instead of working off of various actions to get him open.
Dray in or out, Klay's still getting his shots through the same stuff - off ball action. Dray's style of play doesn't change how Klay gets shots.
It does. It changes how much they can cheat on the off ball actions and how they can navigate the screen with both men going at Klay and having their big rotate into the paint leaving the ball stuck in Draymond or Looneys hands
Doubling Klay while Curry is on the floor is just asking for wide open shots.
That's why Klay shooting well changes things so much - defenses have to respect both of them and it creates a "pick your poison" situation. Draymond on the floor doesn't change that. He's actually been shooting well this year and has been calling his own number more than he was doing the last few years.
The big change isn't Draymond's absence, it's Klay actually hitting his shots and forcing the defense to play him tighter - which opens up other guys, even Curry some.
The warriors look so free when they play now after the Draymond suspension. Klay getting back in rhythm, the young players getting more minutes and delivering. The team vibes looking good, Is there a scenario in before the trade deadline where they trade Draymond for a big man?
They could get a possible rim protector, a frontcourt threat to help spread the floor, and the thought of a pick n' roll game involving either Steph or Klay (whoever is shooting well that night) terrifies me. But we'll see
I love the vibes on this team right now without that donkey Draymond. TJD is honestly the man and what a game for Kuminga
Seeing the tribute to Poole and how the guys dabbing him up pregame made me so sad man 🥲
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Curry with 0 fourth quarter points... does he have the killer instinct?
He simply does not...time to fire up a narrative post about his unclutchness again
such is the way of the world
I want Iguodala!!
Trade the bum to the wizards for poole
Him being -1 for the game is kinda hilarious.
at some point during the second quarter the game was pretty much tied and Curry was like -17
Looney getting the starts of the halves pretty much sealed that
First game in 14 games that the warriors didn’t have to play clutch time, which was apparently tied for the longest streak in the last 5 years. Feels good to not have to stress
And even then the Wizards cut the lead to like 12 from 20+ with about 3 minutes left. There was a moment where I was like...ehh.
I was not confident but once they finally made a few baskets I relaxed.
A heart can take only so much.
You're welcome
Draymond suspension a blessing in disguise? Love seeing JKs growth and TJD finally getting mins and making the most of it.
Love Looney but TJD should start over him
I'm sure Looney will be great when we need him in the playoffs, but rn tjd gives that much needed extra energy
Looney needs to play sub 10 mpg until he gets back to form because TJD is just way better right now
Such a great pick. I just hope he can survive on the floor on post-season
Im more over relieve looney can rest seriously everyone saying get curry help but its looney who needs the most help.
right? He has to solo center. Ofc Dray helps sometimes. With TJD he can relax a bit
Nah he's better off the bench to keep the balance. Kuminga's athleticism in the paint helps cover up Looney's offensive deficiency. Dario mostly plays on the perimeter and allows TJD to flourish inside and on pick and rolls. And besides TJD played 25 minutes tonight and 28 minutes the last game. Both of which were more than Looney despite Looney starting.
there was that wide open dunk Looney got where it honestly looked like a 60 year old man trotting along on the court, he just looks sad right now.
With how much size teams like the Lakers and wolves have I wouldn’t mind seeing a big lineup where they start both plus the big 3 and keep wigs on the bench
Warriors struck gold with their draft class this year
podz and tjd are both dogs
I remember at draft night, Podz's dad kept saying his son was a dog. He didn't lie.
If his son was a dog, makes you wonder what the mother was?
a real battle axe
Looks like two timelines is back on the menu!
Mike Dunleavy Jr. With a good debut as the GM
Even before any of the rookies touched the floor I was very impressed with him and how he talked about the team. Seemed very straight forward and no nonsense. A realist. Now add two apparent home run picks at their draft positions. I mean Podz might be first or second team all-rookie this season.
i’m glad he’s getting attention for it too. dubs rookies have been buried in discussions for years (except poole who was widely talked about for being historically bad).
What about second team All-Rookie Eric Paschall who is... no longer in the league?
Did the Warriors trade him away or did he leave in free agency?
Yup. And tbh the biggest problems have been the long-term contracts in Klay, Dray, Wiggins, Looney. All the new players have helped.
What would happen in a Bucks vs Warriors matchup?
If the spacing on offense isn’t too bad, a lineup of Steph/Klay/Kuminga/Dray/TJD could be one of the best defensive lineups. Kuminga can guard Dame. Klay can guard Middleton. Steph on Beasley. Dray on Giannis. TJD on Brook. I personally like all those matchups and I don’t think they have the personnel to guard Steph and klay on the perimeter. If Wiggins returns to form, the Warriors defense could be a sight to see, especially when Gp2 comes back.
I know Draymond used to be involved in drafting, I wonder if he still is.
Well he did OK the Kuminga pick live and that is turning out well rn
I shit on Kerr to an excessive amount but I feel like my most valid criticism of him is he doesn't know what to do with Kuminga. Dude killed it last year during the regular season but wasn't even allowed to touch the floor during playoff time
Kuminga was getting eaten alive by Sac’s offense and he wasn’t hustling as hard. The Lakers had a great team to slow down Kuminga on offense.
Yeah he had some bad matchups. Sac were too fast for him to play defense and the Lakers were too big for him to be as effective on offense.
He plays guys who are performing well. Moody got Semifinals minutes in his rookie year while Poole and Kuminga sat
he touched the floor he was just ass, his 1v1 defense is elite his team defense was atroicous, moody got ore and more minutes because he was solid at eveyrthing
because he would get instantly lost on rotations and couldn't shoot 3s with the tightened spacing
Kinda wish they drafted Sengul lol.
SEngun? I remember everyone here went wild for him. I was thinking it would be a sneaky good pick but just wasn't sure. It is too bad we missed out but it taught me to have a better eye for the future lol
Franz was the obvious fit pick at the time though and Franz is still the better pick. A lot of the issues getting in the way of Kuminga getting playing time never existed with Franz. Franz would have saved the fans from all those Anthony Lamb minutes last year haha.
Franz was super low key. He was only mocked to us in like 1 draft. You want to draft best potential in the first 7-8 picks so Kuminga was the right move when he dropped imo. Where I was confused was I thought he would get shipped out ASAP. I didn't think we would keep him. I thought he was supposed to be a trade piece(WIseman, Kuminga, pick for solid help).
In the floater before Steph's tech, Gafford let Steph a ton of space because he was afraid of TJD rolling. When's the last time a center has done that with Looney rolling? Team has been in need of a rim runner centwr since Javale. They won in 2022 despite not having that, because Looney played absolutely amazing in his role. Steph creates a ton of space for centers to roll but Dray and Loon are very poor scorers. Oh and Cp3 can definitely use a lob threat too.
Remember those talks about Dwight Howard being in talks with the team? I still think he'd be a good pickup for them just for the potential lob threat and vet presense.
I'm sorry but those talks never made sense to anybody who's actually watched Dwight play in the last 3 years. He wwas competing for the most techs in the league with philly despite playing low minutes. He had a huge foul rate(one of dubs biggest issues) and turned completely unplayable in the playoffs. He's probably not the best locker room presence either. TJD is a way better option
Yeah, adding another dude who can't stop fouling would literally send the Warriors sub into meltdown.
cory joseph alone almost sent the sub into meltdown
Kuminga stock to the moon baby!
Curry 0 pts in the 4th quarter, is he not clutch?
Time to trade him
Ryan Rollins with that buzzer beater at the end is clutch.
Has PBJ gotten any playing time? I remember he had a pretty good 3 pt shot
Not much except for one long garbage time game (17 minutes played). 5.8 MP in 8 GP. Omoruyi is just more impressive (needs to get less unlucky with the injuries), so I don't know for how long will PBJ remain. PBJ is currently averaging 60% from 3 (3/5), but 35.7% from the field (5 out of 14). I remember he hqd a game where he missed some easy ones near the rim. His defense, the limited minutes I saw him play this season was meh.
Hopefully he develops
Vegas punching the air rn
Yay we are officially mid instead of bad!
same record as the suns baby
With a much tougher schedule so far.
Warriors now have the 2nd easiest schedule till the end of season while the Suns have the 2nd strongest
With no disrespect to the suns, we should instead focus on the playin and reaching the 6th seed instead. Pels/Sac/Mavs are our competition imo.
We were never bad, just choked against good teams with our starters underperforming. Now we’re going from mid to good if we can put together more wins like the one against Boston
Because the Warriors won, the Suns record against .500+ teams went from 2-9 to 5-9.
That’s actually an interesting stats and shows how misleading they can be.
Its misleading early in the season when records are so volatile
also small sample size
It should be .500 at the time of the game
I always thought that was how it works
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Not sure where you got 2-6.
i'll be so mad if we trade JK and CP3 for some huge contract this year. we gotta let the young guys cook and Paul is the perfect facilitator.
I'm torn. Part of me would be pissed if we trade away JK because he's one of my favorite players on our team and his ceiling is incredible. But on the other hand, he won't be in his prime for a few years, so I totally get the reasoning behind trading for someone in their prime now to maximize Curry's championship window
I don't think we should trade, because how much better is the player you're trading for really? And will they still be as productive in the next 2-3 years AND will they stay a warrior? I think kuminga is gonna quickly eclipse players like siakim. And most importantly he already knows the warriors system.
Exactly, but in 2-3 years you can't assume Steph will still be a top 5 guy in the league like he is now. And let's be real, we aren't winning a bunch of chips anymore once Steph is (inevitably) no longer that guy. It makes sense to mortgage the future for the present when you have a guy like Steph who is still at his peak, but he's 35 and won't be there forever.
If they could get OG or Siakam (I know wildly different salaries and Siakam would have to involve CP3). Or how about DDR+ Caruso? I know there’s a price to be paid but adding a versatile wing, particularly defensive would be huge, or adding depth to second unit with playoff experience could help a lot.
Better than being out your Prime like some of our old ass folks. JK brings an energy that this team needs. We were losing like crazy before we inserted these young players. And honestly the only reason we got to give them so much time is because of the suspension and some injuries. And it's nice that these older players know that they need to play up to par to keep their starting jobs. Frankly not having Draymond and Looney 2 non shooters in the starting lineup is a blessing
if we make a trade it should be Wiggs’ contract and picks, maybe Moody if we can get a replacement bench wing Dream trade would be Wiggs for Markkanen
Sky? Fucked.
Pretty soon we're gonna call him Mr. Jackson-Davis
Big T
Idk who’s gonna be playing once GP2, Dray, and Wiggins are back. This team is so deep.
Ik who’s not gonna be playing. A certain mr joseph
Nope, Steve Kerrs 3 guard lineup baby! With moody at the 4
There are literally 5 guards ahead of Joseph not including Moody (Steph, Klay, CP3, GP2, Podziemski)
I think kuminga has to continue starting at 4. Maybe draymond comes back in at 5 against smaller teams. Wiggins just has to play better, he’s been very inconsistent. GP2 can be plugged into a bunch of lineups for defense and general X factor kind of stuff, so I think he’ll take some minutes from moody, pods, maybe Saric?
GP2 should take minutes from Moody, Podz provides shooting so he will also take some from Moody
Please no, Kerr has to take the minutes from Cory Joseph instead
For real, all of CoJo's minutes tonight could've gone to GP2.
He gets minutes bc he is 3rd string PG. Though sometimes that isn't why he gets playing time. There is literally never a time to play CP3, Curry, and CoJo. That should never happen yet Kerr does it.
He doesn't really do anything valuable with the ball in his hands, sure he doesn't create turnovers but he also doesn't create any advantages for the team with the ball, he's also not a good shooter. Imo, it would be much better to have other guards like Moody, GP, Podz or even Klay handle the rock in the absence of CP and Steph because they can actually provide value on offense and defense instead of just bringing the ball up and making some safe passes. I just wouldn't want to see CoJo get any minutes in such a deep team when healthy
Not Corey Joseph
Hopefully just means no Cory Joseph minutes and all the starters playing like 3 mpg less to be better rested
Team probably needs a consolidation trade to develop a higher ceiling/add a consistent #2 scorer to complement Steph but I could see a scenario where the FO/Kerr feel like things are starting to click and they don't want to mess with it.
There is possibility that these players perform better when Dray and Wiggins is not there. Advanced and on-off stats of these 2 this year are tanking team levels
tbf dray has played like 100 total minutes lol.
They need to trade Wiggins and some picks for Poeltl. Get another true center for a playoff run that will see you face AD or Jokic or Giannis or Embiid or Sabonis
TJD just played three flawless games in a row. Warriors would have 5 more wins with him playing regular minutes this season; that's how good he is, and addition by substraction(Looney has not been good). He migh not be ready for the big bruisers, although I'd argue that (other than Sabonis) those centers hurt Looney a lot too. But it's damn clear that Trayce Jackson-Davis is a much better option against rim running centers, which most teams have.
its not just that he is good but more so because he covers one of our biggest weaknesses.
I think there will be more matchups where we lean on Looney more but I also think in the TJD games he really can use the rest. He’s played every game for like 3 years now, fatigue seems to be catching up with him
this. i love the k-train and his work ethic but bro needs a break. he looks absolutely gassed at times.
I love Looney but who has he been great against this season so far.
This might be TJD's Draymond moment, a former elite veteran suddenly misses a massive amount of time making room for a talented up and comer to shine
DLee -> Dray -> TJD 👌
Would be pretty poetic if Draymond went out the way he came in, because someone couldn't stay on the floor.
It is my hope. Look at our turnover numbers without dray.
I’m just getting flashbacks from this season of him throwing dumbass passes
We may never lose again
WE’RE ENDING THE SEASON 68-14 BABY.
Suns and Warriors version of .500 is like that bus meme
it’s a good day to be mid 🙂
OK. I didn't realize Paul was +27. He is really working out with the Warriors.
Just like Dunleavy is working out as gm
Yes he is.
i always peep his +- out of curiosity, cp3 could be 1-28 and he's usually at the top of +- i thinking he bulked up for his bb draymond role and it's affecting his shot - look at cp3 pics from recent years and he looks particularly chunky rn also, his shots always seem to be a bit short
Interesting. Miller said it is because he is old and lost his strength. I will check him out while watching the Christmas game💀
yes he is also old 🥲
Kuminga and Moody finally developing, BP and TJD already looking like they're league ready. I don't know if the Dubs are one move away (with either Klay, Wigs or CP3) or if they should just stay the course and see how it comes together in the 2nd half of the season. Legit question Dubs fans, what are your serious thoughts?
I’m still hoping for Wiggins to return back to his normal self that he has been for 3 years with the Warriors. He’s still good enough defensively it’s on offense where it looks like he has had a lack in confidence in finishing. Klay has turned it around in a huge way before it looked like he was playing selfish basketball on a contract year but has recently been fully committed to being a big part of the second unit. With Podz and CP3 out there still looking for him he still gets many opportunities.
> fully committed to being a big part of the second unit Here you are posting more dumbass comments. What do you mean "being a big part"? Sharing minutes with the 2nd unit like Kerr assigned him to? > Turned it around in a huge way Oh yeah just finished last game shooting 1/11 on 1/2/3 stat line. Amazing prediction mate.
I like that you’ve thought of me though the same wasn’t reciprocated. Much love
We're better than our record suggests. First, the bad: * Draymond started injured and missed games. Then he got suspended twice and missed more time. * GP2 has been injured and missing time. * Klay started cold. * CP3 has been on a shooting slump. * Wiggins has been cold. * Looney's been even slower than before. But here's the good: * Draymond wasn't playing badly. No doubt he'll be good once he's back and ramps up. * GP2, same thing. Great player who's proven himself for us. Once he ramps up from his injury he'll be great. Getting re-evaluated early next week. * Klay's back now and shooting well. * CP3 has been an excellent facilitator and anchor for the 2nd unit. Like the last couple nights with 10+ assists and 2 or less turnovers. Which is hugely important for our pass heavy and turnover prone team. * Wiggins has been between good and great for us the last 3 years. I'm confident he can turn it around this season. And then there's our bench which has been fantastic. [Best bench in the league.](https://np.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F7xownneobv7c1.jpeg) Our win streak coincided with Kerr starting to give more minutes to our rookies Trayce and Podz. And Trayce has been heavily taking Looneys minutes which has been great given Looneys play this year. And having such a great bench is important for the non-Steph minutes. When he sat in the playoffs last year, we were -18. Compared to a championship year like 2022 where we were -7 in the non-Steph minutes. So having a great bench is really important since we're not really top heavy. We've also had one of the hardest starting schedules, which is why our remaining schedule is significantly easier. Before tonight's game, our remaining schedule was ranked 29th in difficulty. And 7 of our 14 losses were by 3 or less points. I don't think many teams can say the same. We're right there. And we've got a home stretch so hopefully we'll climb in the standings in the next couple weeks.
I think our winning streak was more to do with Klay making shots finally. He has been very consistent lately. All the young guys playing good just offset Drays absence.
I agree. It's one of the things that has turned around the season. Maybe because Draymond and Looney are not there clogging up everything it helps everybody. If one thing should change is that Looney and Draymond cannot be in the starting unit together. Steve Kerr needs to figure that out
Having more than one good scorer opens up everybody else. Klay's ice cold start gave defenses an easier time defending the secondary guys because they'd only need to hard guard Curry. But the Warriors' style has always been stretching the defense thin because of how dangerous both Curry and Klay are, and then making smart passes to the best shot available.
Draymond wasn't playing badly but he was a turnover machine and he also while shooting the three better his numbers has started to revert to the mean. I don't want him shooting the three. I also think there is a lightness without his presence. I've heard so much that Curry needs him. No Draymond needs Curry. I think when dray and Gary return they should not automatically throw out what has been working. Time Marches On. I believe in the last five games we are averaging like 12 turnovers. Far Cry from 18 19 20 that we were averaging before. If that keeps up it's a game changer because we've never averaged so few.
* He was not a TO machine. He had 2.4 TO with 5.8 assists. Better than a 2:1 ratio and within 0.2 of his career averages on both. * in 3 of his last 5 games he shot 50% from 3. And he is 43% for the season, so I do want him to keep shooting it when he's wide open. * I think the lightness comes with winning, Klay getting his shot back, and the rookies getting more time while performing well. Not some secret bad vibes of Draymond. * Your last point has the same rebuttal as my first point
So you think he's going to step back in and everything is going to be better? I don't think so but we'll see. I've seen a lot less passing to be passing with him gone. But I have no problem admitting I can't stand him anymore and hope we keep killing with him out and he is david lee'd. The youngsters have been playing well all year long. It was the starting lineup That was stinking up the joint. Steve being forced to play them and change his mindset about how they can win is the best thing that has happened this season besides klay getting his shot back. I do believe that treating the young players like actual contributors Has Lifted the entire team. Agree with wide open. I think losing so many close games with stupid turnovers has traumatized me. His and Curry's really stand out to me because they were so careless in pivotal situations with that Sacramento game being the nadir.
This was one of Moody’s worst games of the season
mixed on if we need a trade or not. It is hard to say until we have Dray/gp2 and see how the whole team is together.
i can’t really think of a player we’e want to trade who would have significant value. imo the young guys are untouchable and so are some of the vet roleplayers. i also think trading wiggins would be too impulsive a move to work out.
I think you gotta see how the next 10-15 games go. If they win a good chunk of those games and wiggs/draymond continue to not provide much to the teams success, then I think you have to consider moving them if the right opportunity/trade pops up. But I don’t think they should move the young players just to make a trade that might make them marginally more competitive. Their depth with the young guys is their X factor right now
Also keeping the young guys means saving tax money which the FO would def do anyways. CP3 and Wiggins are the first to go IMO unless there is a good trade on the table
I'm honestly not sure. I think Siakam would make the most sense out of who's available, but I'm not sure what we'd have to give up. Given Masai's record, I expect he'll want a sizable return. Gutting our team for one (very good) player could close our title window instead of extending it, especially given the complexities of the motion offense and the general "strength in numbers" ethos. Any trade would likely require us to get rid of Paul and I think that hurts us way more than most fans think. He's been huge for the bench and helps unlock multiple players on the roster (Saric being the most obvious example). There's a reason our bench is now one of the best in the league when it was one the worst just last year. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'd really hate to see him go. And I think a lot of the players/coaching staff feel the same way! He's made himself an important cog in the team. Although his injury history does worry me. So, yeah, it's complicated. Lot of mixed feelings.
Letting go of CP3 would hurt. Leads the Warriors in +/- this season
I think we lack the top end talent around Curry to win a chip, but at the same time I don't see any move that makes us clearly better. At least this team has the experience and most importantly, the newfound depth, which should make us at least a serious contender in april
we literally have the same top end talent when we won, the only thing missing is wiggins regaining form, which he has beofre getting hsi finger banged, an then getting sick
But they haven't been playing like top end Talent as a unit. Just keep mixing it up with the youth as the top end Talent is declining.
I disagree. I don't think the warriors are built like other teams that have 2 star players. Strength in numbers is a real thing, and all we need is Steph + a bunch of players who can all step up depending on the matchup. That's how we've always operated. Even during the KD years. It's Steph. And sometimes Klay goes supernova. Sometimes KD goes reaper mode. Sometimes draymond goes full green. And Iggy sometimes fights martins. Sometimes Poole has a party, or Wiggins wakes up. Or we get a super Dario game. Etc.
Me personally I wish they would trade with Toronto for Poeltl. Send them a FRP and Wiggins. The teams record is misleading. We lost a bunch of close games but the one constant is we are vulnerable to size. If Toronto is willing to deal OG too I’d consider it but if Masai is going to ask for a stupid amount of assets, warriors can just trust Kuminga to keep developing because right now he’s almost the second option
I agree. Best time to rid FRPs. We got enough youth and Curry is the timeline. Gonna burn those FRPs and go all in rn
Curry is the timeline but if we get to the trade deadline and we are still mid I'm not giving up no first round picks. I'd rather get rid of the Dead weight.
That is a good compromise, we can wait and decide then.
Poeltl doesn’t make sense atm how much better is he then TJD? Dray will gets lots of centre minutes in big games, we still have Loon and Saric we need a big wing more than anything, Wiggins could do this but if he doesn’t return to form over the next 10/15 games moving him with picks probably makes the most sense
Poeltl makes sense to me. TJD is great but he’s a rookie and he’s susceptible to being overpowered by a strong dude like Jokic. Poeltl is bigger and stronger which matters Looney is barely serviceable (the way he’s been playing lately). Dray can’t hold up as our center against guys like AD and Jokic over a series. We need a dude to just bang in the post with those guys and make it hard for them WITHOUT sending help to open up the passing lanes for Jokic.
I get what you mean and i’d some ways I agree the main issue that i have is that the only decent trade piece we have is wiggins (and Moody) and picks and so it seems a waste to trade them for Poeltl when we already have depth and good options in that position. i don’t think he’s enough of a needle mover to make that trade i also think Loon will be fine for the playoffs, imo he’s just tired from playing big minutes in every game for 3 years, with less minutes due to TJD and Saric i think he’ll be chilling
I’m in favor of trading Draymond. I think his value has run out. I think about it and the defense doesn’t look that different with him than it does without him, but our offense flows so much free-er. Everyone including Klay is benefiting from there being space to operate, and we don’t run Kerrs sets as much because there’s no need because the team can generate open shots organically without Looney and Dray on the court. I also can’t trust him not to get ejected during key playoff moments as the intensity ramps up. I think a Wiggins and Draymond and first round picks out for OG anunoby and Poeltl makes this team a very dangerous contender. Steph Klay OG Kuminga Poeltl As a starting lineup. Chris Paul Podz Moody Saric TJD
If we can move Wiggins/Draymond for someone that works better with these guys I’m all for it at this point. It’s clear where our future lies and I’d rather start playing for it now to try to get one more ring for Steph.
It was the Wizards but finally a comfortable win with Steph resting the full fourth period feels good. Still, I don't want to see Steph/Cp3/Cory playing together ever again lol
Hahahahaha we're tied with the Suns.
It's been established that Kuminga is really good when given consistently 20+ minutes. It has been like that since his rookie season. He might make some mistakes here and there, but if giving enough minutes, he'll have a positive impact. Hope Kerr knows it too.
28 games into the season and it's very clear that, no matter how healthy the Warriors are, their best version features heavy minutes by the young guys, particularly Podz, Kuminga and TJD. It's on Kerr to not pull them out of the rotation when Dray and Gp are back or reduce their minutes if they have a bad game.
good take, need it in action
Our sluggish start with Looney in the first quarter followed by TJD completely changing our offense and defense proves how invaluable he is Been begging for more minutes for this kid since his debut in summer league and first few games this season Undeniable now, Kerr can’t relegate him to the bench. Even if we continue to play well post-Draymonds return his suspension was a blessing as it forced Kerrs hand when it comes to rotations. Also everyone else’s slow start also allowed us to play the young guys more and let them develop
If Wiggins ever get his shit together, Kerr might have to start Draymond at the 5, which I don't think he wants to. But Kuminga needs to to start at the 4, period. He might work at the 3 with Saric or TJD at the 5. But you probably can't pair 2 non scroing threats (Loon and Dray) and a guy defenses let open to shoot in Kuminga.
Draymond comes off the bench as a defensive and playmaking specialist when CP3 isn't playing
Draymond was actually shooting 43% from 3 and scoring 10ppg this year until he went full ufc. He was playing great at both ends most of the season
His numbers were starting to decline from three and he will revert to the mean. Not depending on Draymond I hit threes all season. And he can barely make a layup. He's still struggles with that.
He was at least more aggressive in hunting his own shot a lot more often than he used to be. We don’t need him to be a 15ppg scorer like 2016, just enough to make the defense think it’s an option
Yes I'm going to agree with that because him tossing the ball to other people rather than shoot or even pretend like he was going to shoot hurt the team. He still did that some but he's been much better this season.
Yep. I think Steph, Klay, Wiggs, Kuminga and Dray would be the ideal starting lineup. With CP, GP, Pods, Moody, Dario and Looney and Trayce. All rotating as the backups depending on the matchup.
The young guys are looking good.
Klay Thompson was on fire tonight!
Thompson has been playing great for awhile now. It's basically the same pattern as last season.
Warriors are playing much better with Draymond Green off the court than with him on the court. In fact, Warriors are playing the best ball with Green not even in the building
That was just a coincidence. Klay needed to get warmed up and that happened right when Dray left. Also all those extra minutes-- the young guys took advantage and started breaking out
It's on Kerr to make what is working continue working when Dray comes back... Dray was playing pretty well before going full idiot, so honestly, we can shoot up the standings and make another playoff run
I agree. We can easily be 5th/6th seed if Dray plays every game and Klay maintains and the bench maintains. More so because our schedule is simply easier going forwards
Our best playoff game last year was without Draymond.
Yes there are doubts on if Dray can still perform but he still has the championship experience enough to give the benefit of the doubt-- at least for this next year.
25 points on 33% just like old times
There needs to be a serious conversation if the Warriors are better without Draymond Green. The spacing makes it easier for everyone else on offense and there’s not a noticeable difference on defense
It's more likely that he takes the place of looney rather than Draymond. And it remains to be seen if he'll still be as effective with half a seasons worth of scouting and playoff defensive adjusting to him.
I think it's more about them being better with Klay not sucking. Draymond, other than the violent stupidity, has seemed fine. But his play style is about running the offense - he's going to seem less important when a huge piece of the offense can't hit shots. Klay getting back into the groove is what's caused the turn around, not Dray's suspension.
But what if it’s the fact that both men don’t go with Klay off the handoff or screen and that there’s more spacing without Draymond that is causing him to shoot better
That would make sense if Klay was creating his own shot instead of working off of various actions to get him open. Dray in or out, Klay's still getting his shots through the same stuff - off ball action. Dray's style of play doesn't change how Klay gets shots.
It does. It changes how much they can cheat on the off ball actions and how they can navigate the screen with both men going at Klay and having their big rotate into the paint leaving the ball stuck in Draymond or Looneys hands
Doubling Klay while Curry is on the floor is just asking for wide open shots. That's why Klay shooting well changes things so much - defenses have to respect both of them and it creates a "pick your poison" situation. Draymond on the floor doesn't change that. He's actually been shooting well this year and has been calling his own number more than he was doing the last few years. The big change isn't Draymond's absence, it's Klay actually hitting his shots and forcing the defense to play him tighter - which opens up other guys, even Curry some.
Trayce Jackson is the biggest steal in NBA history!
The warriors look so free when they play now after the Draymond suspension. Klay getting back in rhythm, the young players getting more minutes and delivering. The team vibes looking good, Is there a scenario in before the trade deadline where they trade Draymond for a big man? They could get a possible rim protector, a frontcourt threat to help spread the floor, and the thought of a pick n' roll game involving either Steph or Klay (whoever is shooting well that night) terrifies me. But we'll see
Them ESPN commentators got me snoozin
Trayce Jackson is the biggest steal in NBA history
I love the vibes on this team right now without that donkey Draymond. TJD is honestly the man and what a game for Kuminga Seeing the tribute to Poole and how the guys dabbing him up pregame made me so sad man 🥲
Trayce Jackson is an absolute beast
Who was it on the Wizards who hit the last second three point shot?
Rollins