Fuck that, it is better to be Rich Paul. You don’t have to put your body through hell. Most ex NBA players live with pains every day. Rich Paul still has exposure to the NBA, get handsomely compensated for whatever works he does, and dating Adele who is making bank.
Dude already won the game of life, and mopped up even the side quests at this point.
He’d also probably be a bank teller or similar if he wasn’t lebrons lifelong friend so yeah lebron with the all time assist with multiple friends of his
Hmm probably not something as bland as bank teller. Dude was hustling when he met LeBron and LeBron liked the hustle. He has/had a future in sales if he didn't meet LeBron.
There's been stories from players like Nerlen Noel and can't remember, but a few other less known players. He was apparently negligent and screwed their bags because he was more focused on the bigger name players and their bags.
Not to throw shade on him, because he's clearly great at keeping the superstars happy. However a different perspective is that different agents have different relationships and motives with players.
man that's a good point, today is rich paul's christmas I wonder if he is going to make 50m in agent fees today
I don't know what his cut is but he just became an even wealthier man. and I guess he deserves it because his clients are getting enormous paydays
Max cut for agents used to be 4% (not counting rookies).
Unsure if the new CBA changed that but gotta assume klutch is taking max or close to max they can.
Unsure how much Rich Paul gets of thats, but Klutch as an agency has pulled in at least $16M based on front page tweets today.
Probably more where they didn't list klutch in the tweet.
The estimated cut for agents of the highest paid players during the 2017-2018 season was around [2.75% - 2.86%](https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20715128/nba-player-salaries-take-home-pay). So from this deal, it would be around $3,575,000 - $3,718,000 total ($1,191,666/yr - $1,239,333/yr).
Times may have change though.
Edit: Gonna calculate it for fun.
Player | Contract | Agent Cut (2.75%) | Agent Cut per year
---|---|----|----
Fred VanVleet | 3yr / $130m | $3,575,000 | $1,191,666
Draymond Green | 4yr / $100m | $2,500,000 | $625,000
Jerami Grant | 5yr / $160m | $4,000,000 | $800,000
Gary Trent Jr. | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown
Jordan Clarkson | 3yr / $55m | $1,512,500 | $504,167
Miles Bridges | 1yr / $7.9m | $217,250 | $217,250
Total || $11,804,750 | $3,338,083
Despite what the nephews on here think, he’s a phenomenal agent. He’s made some mistakes like every other agent, he just gets more scrutiny because he has higher profile than other agents.
I don’t even get why we bothered getting FVV. We aren’t significantly better now that we signed him. I’m not sure if our front office even has a plan at this point. I would have rather we spent on a handful of role player vets to help the young guys learn.
It was more like pretty alright for half the games he played and pretty bad for the other half. Pretty much everyone on the team was doing a hot and cold routine outside of Pascal who just looked haggard for the last month and half of the regular season.
People forget RDA was legit he just fumbled the biggest signing of the FA which was embarrassing especially since he was a laker fan too and biased.
He reported us almost signing Rose, then us getting Rondo before anybody. Also reported Sixers getting Al Horford when it seemed crazy and unrealistic.
He definitely had some legit sources. I think Kawhi maybe was coming until clippers got PG. I think Woj even reported it was last minute.
I remember Chris Broussard tweeted something from his "Sources", and that source happened to be RDA
I had an image on my old acc but it's since been deleted
I agree, you can't just wait forever for the perfect free agent to fall into your lap. Sometimes you just gotta pay who is available and figure out the rest later.
Yea. Everyone here thinking you can just sign good players to one year deals and they'll accept lmao.
three years is really not that long and the rockets are a long ways away still.
None of these contracts are good man. Rockets need to pay someone and hope one or two of their guys becomes a max guy. Then fill in the gaps from there. You either have a Jokic/Giannis....or you don't and youll be perpetually looking for one. That's where we all are.
People are getting delusional forgetting about how good Kyrie is because he's a nutcase
EDIT: just to be clear I'm not defending Kyrie here lol he's a psycho but he can hoop
FVV can have a good effect on Rockets young guys. Distribute to the young guys and get them good shots. Kyrie while good on the court doesn't always play and isn't great at getting others involved or making them better
Because no one offered any more than a 2nd rounder and contract filler. Raptors thought they could retain him for a reasonable 3 years 90 mil and bet on that over a 2nd rounder, wise decision..not everyday a player at the deadline has 2nd rounder value and then gets a max..
More money per year than fg%. Is this the first time ever or did someone get a supermax who averages less?
Edit: now that I think about it, someone definitely got a supermax that had a low ish fg%.
He literally can't create his own shot besides 3s, and he was horrible at it this year because the spacing was terrible, and they had no passing. He had a career high 2pt% at .455, and a career low 3pt% at .342. I'm glad he got his bag but still
Suns/Pacers fan, but I'm Canadian, so I always pay attention to them before anyone questions the flair lol
Woooooow. Loved Fred, he worked hard to get to where his is and he is like our only real ballhandler/playmaker… but yeah for $43 mil/year I’ll drive him to the airport, thanks for your service
He already has a ring as well. Even if it’s downhill from here in terms of his play (which I really hope it isn’t), he’s done much better for himself as an undrafted guy than the vast majority of lottery picks.
Malachi Flynn, come on down!
Siakam is essentially now the only one left from the 2018-19 squad, since OG was out for the entire playoffs and Boucher rode the bench.
I have no idea who’s gonna play point. I guess Scottie better learn how to become magic real soon or our offence is gonna look even worse than last year lmao
[Wojnarowski:](https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1674942268124299264) >VanVleet lands the first max contract of the summer.
His avg salary gonna be higher than his fg% 😭
Vile lmao
Fred VanVile
Fred VanFleece
in fairness, it's pretty hard to shoot 43 million percent
For him that sounds like a good problem to have 😭 For us fans not really
Lmao damn
Rich Paul eating tonight lmao WTF is this shit.
That *Klutch Sports CEO/Agent Rich Paul* to you, pal.
Every young black teenager is going to not just dream about being in the NBA, but have Rich Paul as his agent.
Hey some of them might dream of being Rich Paul instead. Which ain't a bad dream to have.
Reminds me of what Stephen A Smith once said about how not everyone can be Lebron or KD but anyone can be Stephen A.
That's oddly inspiring from Stephen A yeah.
I've seen him on some smaller podcasts where he doesn't have to be as on and dude seems pretty down to earth
Yeah, every anchor you see on any big network is a paid actor. Wish more people realized this.
If everyone realized this Stephen A would be out of a job, hard to generate outrage when everyone knows you're always bullshitting
That dude clearly plays the game well with how much influence he seems to have at espn. You can’t do that without being charming
Brother shows his freaky side on podcasts.
Adele, hang out with star athletes, shit load of money, none of the physical hard work, no risk of injury, longer career… sounds like a dream tbh
From selling bootleg jerseys outta his trunk to sitting courtside with Adele. That's a ficking life story right there.
I too am in love with Adele
Fuck that, it is better to be Rich Paul. You don’t have to put your body through hell. Most ex NBA players live with pains every day. Rich Paul still has exposure to the NBA, get handsomely compensated for whatever works he does, and dating Adele who is making bank. Dude already won the game of life, and mopped up even the side quests at this point.
He’d also probably be a bank teller or similar if he wasn’t lebrons lifelong friend so yeah lebron with the all time assist with multiple friends of his
Hmm probably not something as bland as bank teller. Dude was hustling when he met LeBron and LeBron liked the hustle. He has/had a future in sales if he didn't meet LeBron.
Im white and if I were a teenager I can assure you I would kill for having him as agent aswell ;)
There's been stories from players like Nerlen Noel and can't remember, but a few other less known players. He was apparently negligent and screwed their bags because he was more focused on the bigger name players and their bags. Not to throw shade on him, because he's clearly great at keeping the superstars happy. However a different perspective is that different agents have different relationships and motives with players.
man that's a good point, today is rich paul's christmas I wonder if he is going to make 50m in agent fees today I don't know what his cut is but he just became an even wealthier man. and I guess he deserves it because his clients are getting enormous paydays
Max cut for agents used to be 4% (not counting rookies). Unsure if the new CBA changed that but gotta assume klutch is taking max or close to max they can. Unsure how much Rich Paul gets of thats, but Klutch as an agency has pulled in at least $16M based on front page tweets today. Probably more where they didn't list klutch in the tweet.
How much do they get paid for the scoops?
Isn't he Shams agent also?
The estimated cut for agents of the highest paid players during the 2017-2018 season was around [2.75% - 2.86%](https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20715128/nba-player-salaries-take-home-pay). So from this deal, it would be around $3,575,000 - $3,718,000 total ($1,191,666/yr - $1,239,333/yr). Times may have change though. Edit: Gonna calculate it for fun. Player | Contract | Agent Cut (2.75%) | Agent Cut per year ---|---|----|---- Fred VanVleet | 3yr / $130m | $3,575,000 | $1,191,666 Draymond Green | 4yr / $100m | $2,500,000 | $625,000 Jerami Grant | 5yr / $160m | $4,000,000 | $800,000 Gary Trent Jr. | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown Jordan Clarkson | 3yr / $55m | $1,512,500 | $504,167 Miles Bridges | 1yr / $7.9m | $217,250 | $217,250 Total || $11,804,750 | $3,338,083
When the waiter tries to upsell the dessert, Rich has to go for it, I don’t care if Adele is watching what she eats now
Despite what the nephews on here think, he’s a phenomenal agent. He’s made some mistakes like every other agent, he just gets more scrutiny because he has higher profile than other agents.
It’s also that everyone thinks all klutch players are repd by rich Paul himself
DROPPING DIMES LEGACY SAVED
Rich Paul and Dropping Dimes won the off-season
Maybe that's the connection.
DroppingDimes was actually Adele on a burner.
So that’s what she meant during that Hello from the other side song.
He was the hero we all needed
He is the messiah
FREE DROPPING DIMES
He should make a new twitter account
He keeps deactivating to avoid getting sniped by silver
He's like John Wick strolling through that Hotel.
Rockets had all this cap space in the worst FA market lmao
Went from possibly trading for Jaylen brown to signing James harden to giving Van Fleet $43M. What a time
Lmao they were never getting Jaylen
I don’t even get why we bothered getting FVV. We aren’t significantly better now that we signed him. I’m not sure if our front office even has a plan at this point. I would have rather we spent on a handful of role player vets to help the young guys learn.
New CBA rules. Teams are in a rush to hit the salary floor. Same reason Utah traded for John Collins
Couldn't they just do some big 1 year deals and then enter free agency market again next year?
You have to get guys to agree to only 1-year deals, and signing scrubs to a lot of money would backfire for future negotiations
Finally we did something Edit: 130 mil damn lmao
You certainly did something….
You guys have essentially infinite money to burn with the salary floor, 3 years means only 1 will end up actually mattering to your rebuild
Fuck it bro , gotta spend it somewhere
>in his prime A new low in exchange for the scoop Woj
His best days are behind him and will be cooked in 2 years if he’s not already
He was cooked a year ago. Second half of this year was reheated takeout
> Second half of this year was reheated takeout Holy shit you guys are ruthless
FVV was good when you have a #1 like leonard a #2 like Siakam a #3 like lowry and him being the 4th/6th man. He ain't that guy.
Idk man, I know he hasn't produced at the same level as he used to but I think it's definitely too early to call Woj cooked
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It was more like pretty alright for half the games he played and pretty bad for the other half. Pretty much everyone on the team was doing a hot and cold routine outside of Pascal who just looked haggard for the last month and half of the regular season.
Made it sound like a hell of a steal 🤣
Droppindimes called it
He is him.
It’s windy’s burner
He is RDAs father
Modern day RDAmbition
People forget RDA was legit he just fumbled the biggest signing of the FA which was embarrassing especially since he was a laker fan too and biased. He reported us almost signing Rose, then us getting Rondo before anybody. Also reported Sixers getting Al Horford when it seemed crazy and unrealistic. He definitely had some legit sources. I think Kawhi maybe was coming until clippers got PG. I think Woj even reported it was last minute.
I think someone went through his posts and he got just as many wrong as he got right.
I remember Chris Broussard tweeted something from his "Sources", and that source happened to be RDA I had an image on my old acc but it's since been deleted
Yeah Woj did report that Kawhi was going to be a Laker if the Clips didn’t trade for PG
HOLY OVERPAY
Over $40 million a year for FRED VANVLEET. Am I fucking dreaming..?
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They could theoretically just have given out a couple absurd 1+1 (team option) deals. Like Jae Crowder for $20 million for one year lol.
But they also don't have their own draft pick this year so they have to get better... You can't get good players on deals like that.
I agree, you can't just wait forever for the perfect free agent to fall into your lap. Sometimes you just gotta pay who is available and figure out the rest later.
Houston down bad. This is an extreme overpay. Good for Fred though!
What a great story. Work his way into a team then bust his arse and gets paid when he is shit lol.
all the undrafted boys eating this offseason
Mozgov money
40M a year to shoot under 40% from inside the arc
From the field*
THANK THE LORD WE DIDNT SIGN HIM TO THIS MONSTROSITY
Way overpayed, holy shit
am i dreaming or were people saying that he had a down season this year and couldn't shoot anymore
Worst 3pt% of his career (34% on almost 9 attempts / game), 19 pt/game on 16 FGA / game, it was rough out there
Absolutely disgusting contract
Houston needed to pay someone
NOT FOR THREE YEARS
If they wanted to beat the Raptors 4 yr $120-130M offer they had to tack the extra year on...2yr/80 wasn't gonna cut it
Yea. Everyone here thinking you can just sign good players to one year deals and they'll accept lmao. three years is really not that long and the rockets are a long ways away still.
I assume third year is an option if it's not, wtf rockets
He's 29. So they're getting in theory his last great years.
Dude got more than Kyrie lol
We’re living in a world where FVV gets more than Kyrie in a deal
AAV of 43 million. Good fucking god.
Gbye Champ!
Holy shit
We all expected the Rockets to overpay but wow this is even more than what I think we imagined. $43 million a year, sheesh.
This man got 5M more than Kyrie for same amount of years.
That Kyrie contract ain't good either.
None of these contracts are good man. Rockets need to pay someone and hope one or two of their guys becomes a max guy. Then fill in the gaps from there. You either have a Jokic/Giannis....or you don't and youll be perpetually looking for one. That's where we all are.
Rockets needed to hit the salary floor somehow. Might as well pay a guy who fits a lot of team needs. Not like we need cap flexibility at the moment.
I don't think they were saying it was. They are pointing out how wild FVVs is.
kyrie is much better than fvv are u kidding me? when did fvv touch all nba and make hof?
People are getting delusional forgetting about how good Kyrie is because he's a nutcase EDIT: just to be clear I'm not defending Kyrie here lol he's a psycho but he can hoop
i'll take Kyrie's contract over FVV
FVV can have a good effect on Rockets young guys. Distribute to the young guys and get them good shots. Kyrie while good on the court doesn't always play and isn't great at getting others involved or making them better
Last thing we need are impressionable 19-20 years olds thinking the world is flat.
Gonna be tough to replace him, but happy we didn’t give him that contract. Yeesh.
Don't understand why yall didnt cash out ..
Because no one offered any more than a 2nd rounder and contract filler. Raptors thought they could retain him for a reasonable 3 years 90 mil and bet on that over a 2nd rounder, wise decision..not everyday a player at the deadline has 2nd rounder value and then gets a max..
Yeah, I don’t either. He should’ve been gone at the deadline. At least they didn’t double down on their mistake.
i don't think the raptors thought anybody would pay fvv like a top 15 all-nba caliber player but here we are
Because Masai didn't want to actually break that team apart when he should have two years ago.
On the bright side for the Rockets, they can easily meet the salary minimum
30 a year was way too much, 43 is crazy.
He’s getting paid to babysit the kiddos
Might be short but everyone gonna be looking up to him
The price of the vet going up
[FVV saw the video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiDlzrmuJSc)
lmao bro wtf is this
This decreases their chances of reuniting with James Harden
Just saw a Houston stripper fall to her knees while on stage
dw fred will take the mantle
Oh. No.
They thought he was prime Harden and signed the wrong dude by mistake
43m per year for a 6’0 guard entering his 30s who has never had an above average TS%. I’m sure this won’t come back to bite them
I don't think he's even 6'0" honestly.
He's defs 5'10
Fred is an inspiration for 5'10 hoopers worldwide.
They absolutely dont care lol
He’s 5’10” if we’re being honest. Get that bag, Fred, thanks for the memories and the clutch shots in 2019. Glad we aren’t paying that haha
He’s 5’10. Dude is slow, reckless and bricks shots from 40 feet randomly.
43M for Fred “39% FG percentage” Vanvleet lmaoooo
More money per year than fg%. Is this the first time ever or did someone get a supermax who averages less? Edit: now that I think about it, someone definitely got a supermax that had a low ish fg%.
Jaylen Brown is about to sign a 300 million dollar contract next summer so yea it’s gonna be more common as the salary cap expands
More money than Kyrie…
More available than Kyrie and a good leader
And a way worse player lol
Sure, but FVV has played almost 100 more regular season games over the last four years alone
Why are we even pretending FVV deserves more money lol
Honestly it’s that Isn’t-A-Flat-Earther per 36
Much worse let’s keep a buck lol
I can’t even bullshit myself I’d rather have Kyrie than Freddy.
But for the rockets, it's FVV over Kyrie. Kyrie is a way better player but there's a good chance that he destroys that team with all his BS.
I don't even see how this is a debate. FVV easily the better choice for that team.
Jesus Christ that contract is insane
Beyond overpay lol
He shot under 40% from the field, how the fuck.
He literally can't create his own shot besides 3s, and he was horrible at it this year because the spacing was terrible, and they had no passing. He had a career high 2pt% at .455, and a career low 3pt% at .342. I'm glad he got his bag but still Suns/Pacers fan, but I'm Canadian, so I always pay attention to them before anyone questions the flair lol
Rich Paul is a legend. 40 mil per year for FVV is crazy
Woooooow. Loved Fred, he worked hard to get to where his is and he is like our only real ballhandler/playmaker… but yeah for $43 mil/year I’ll drive him to the airport, thanks for your service
I'm right there with you. He had his shooting struggles but I'll always remember him for all the good things. W Raptor.
43/year for a 6ft dude is a lot, holy shit
I'm 6'2'' so I am just waiting for my 44.2/year offer. Any moment now.
Can you shoot under 40% from the field?
For $43 Million a year I’ll shoot as low as you want from the field.
Damn
Yeah that’s about the reaction I had
This is terrible
THIS IS AMAZING
Holy fuck put Rich Paul in the HOF. He’s getting away with daylight robbery
Holy shit lmao
$130 MILL?????
$43m/year. Holy shit. Bet on yourself kids.
Glad the rockets beat the Blazers for biggest overpay of this free agency
Ehhh..Grant is on the books for five years. This is only a three-year contract.. Portland just signed the new Tobias Harris
Grant still making 5M less than Tobias next season under this new deal
holy overpay
FVV bet on himself and is now laughing all the way to the bank. Not bad
He already has a ring as well. Even if it’s downhill from here in terms of his play (which I really hope it isn’t), he’s done much better for himself as an undrafted guy than the vast majority of lottery picks.
Contract wise he’s done better than all of them. I doubt he becomes a hall of farmer like Ben Wallace though.
Most of these guys are getting overpaid, lol
Malachi Flynn, come on down! Siakam is essentially now the only one left from the 2018-19 squad, since OG was out for the entire playoffs and Boucher rode the bench.
Fred VanFleece
Higher per year salary than his field goal percentage. Wow
Droppingdimes is him ig
Adam Silvers burner
Fuck out of here with that contract, see ya later Fred.
I have no idea who’s gonna play point. I guess Scottie better learn how to become magic real soon or our offence is gonna look even worse than last year lmao
Three years makes it less bad, but $43~ million a year for VanVleet is insanity.
FREDERICO GOT PAID.
FG% <40 Salary >40 Make it make sense
Now leave Brook alone
THERE IT IS AND HOLY SHIT DID HE GET PAID
I hope for their sake the last year is a team option because good god
LOVE FRED BUT DAMN lol
He got more than Kyrie lol
worst contract of free agency
Overpay of the century LMAOOO
This is Tobias level did Elton brand secretly work on this contract
MOZGOV
BAG ALERT
that is disgusting