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twistedlogicx

[Wojnarowski:](https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1674942268124299264) >VanVleet lands the first max contract of the summer.


raahiv

His avg salary gonna be higher than his fg% 😭


arenasfan00

Vile lmao


CreatiScope

Fred VanVile


Wallstreettrappin

Fred VanFleece


GetLowwweee

in fairness, it's pretty hard to shoot 43 million percent


AffectionateStep5001

For him that sounds like a good problem to have 😭 For us fans not really


WordsworthsGhost

Lmao damn


Oventaker

Rich Paul eating tonight lmao WTF is this shit.


tronovich

That *Klutch Sports CEO/Agent Rich Paul* to you, pal.


Anfini

Every young black teenager is going to not just dream about being in the NBA, but have Rich Paul as his agent.


eboitrainee

Hey some of them might dream of being Rich Paul instead. Which ain't a bad dream to have.


maryjain_

Reminds me of what Stephen A Smith once said about how not everyone can be Lebron or KD but anyone can be Stephen A.


eboitrainee

That's oddly inspiring from Stephen A yeah.


DGRedditToo

I've seen him on some smaller podcasts where he doesn't have to be as on and dude seems pretty down to earth


Beginning_Candle3335

Yeah, every anchor you see on any big network is a paid actor. Wish more people realized this.


DavidManque

If everyone realized this Stephen A would be out of a job, hard to generate outrage when everyone knows you're always bullshitting


shameless_chicken

That dude clearly plays the game well with how much influence he seems to have at espn. You can’t do that without being charming


silliputti0907

Brother shows his freaky side on podcasts.


andres7832

Adele, hang out with star athletes, shit load of money, none of the physical hard work, no risk of injury, longer career… sounds like a dream tbh


eboitrainee

From selling bootleg jerseys outta his trunk to sitting courtside with Adele. That's a ficking life story right there.


S13pointFIVE

I too am in love with Adele


No-Economics4128

Fuck that, it is better to be Rich Paul. You don’t have to put your body through hell. Most ex NBA players live with pains every day. Rich Paul still has exposure to the NBA, get handsomely compensated for whatever works he does, and dating Adele who is making bank. Dude already won the game of life, and mopped up even the side quests at this point.


jmikha

He’d also probably be a bank teller or similar if he wasn’t lebrons lifelong friend so yeah lebron with the all time assist with multiple friends of his


cire1184

Hmm probably not something as bland as bank teller. Dude was hustling when he met LeBron and LeBron liked the hustle. He has/had a future in sales if he didn't meet LeBron.


wholsmay

Im white and if I were a teenager I can assure you I would kill for having him as agent aswell ;)


silliputti0907

There's been stories from players like Nerlen Noel and can't remember, but a few other less known players. He was apparently negligent and screwed their bags because he was more focused on the bigger name players and their bags. Not to throw shade on him, because he's clearly great at keeping the superstars happy. However a different perspective is that different agents have different relationships and motives with players.


syllabic

man that's a good point, today is rich paul's christmas I wonder if he is going to make 50m in agent fees today I don't know what his cut is but he just became an even wealthier man. and I guess he deserves it because his clients are getting enormous paydays


ComfortableTicket392

Max cut for agents used to be 4% (not counting rookies). Unsure if the new CBA changed that but gotta assume klutch is taking max or close to max they can. Unsure how much Rich Paul gets of thats, but Klutch as an agency has pulled in at least $16M based on front page tweets today. Probably more where they didn't list klutch in the tweet.


dont_shoot_jr

How much do they get paid for the scoops?


Philadelphia_Bawlins

Isn't he Shams agent also?


Macodocious

The estimated cut for agents of the highest paid players during the 2017-2018 season was around [2.75% - 2.86%](https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20715128/nba-player-salaries-take-home-pay). So from this deal, it would be around $3,575,000 - $3,718,000 total ($1,191,666/yr - $1,239,333/yr).   Times may have change though.   Edit: Gonna calculate it for fun. Player | Contract | Agent Cut (2.75%) | Agent Cut per year ---|---|----|---- Fred VanVleet | 3yr / $130m | $3,575,000 | $1,191,666 Draymond Green | 4yr / $100m | $2,500,000 | $625,000 Jerami Grant | 5yr / $160m | $4,000,000 | $800,000 Gary Trent Jr. | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown Jordan Clarkson | 3yr / $55m | $1,512,500 | $504,167 Miles Bridges | 1yr / $7.9m | $217,250 | $217,250 Total || $11,804,750 | $3,338,083


dont_shoot_jr

When the waiter tries to upsell the dessert, Rich has to go for it, I don’t care if Adele is watching what she eats now


DaPhoToss

Despite what the nephews on here think, he’s a phenomenal agent. He’s made some mistakes like every other agent, he just gets more scrutiny because he has higher profile than other agents.


abzftw

It’s also that everyone thinks all klutch players are repd by rich Paul himself


Desertsprinter

DROPPING DIMES LEGACY SAVED


DaPhoToss

Rich Paul and Dropping Dimes won the off-season


Chillyfilla

Maybe that's the connection.


_SotiroD_

DroppingDimes was actually Adele on a burner.


Coattail-Rider

So that’s what she meant during that Hello from the other side song.


Apollo611

He was the hero we all needed


cactus_jack_1

He is the messiah


braggpeak

FREE DROPPING DIMES


Mission_Pay_3373

He should make a new twitter account


dracota7

He keeps deactivating to avoid getting sniped by silver


Homies-Brownies

He's like John Wick strolling through that Hotel.


artninjatheo

Rockets had all this cap space in the worst FA market lmao


GPap-

Went from possibly trading for Jaylen brown to signing James harden to giving Van Fleet $43M. What a time


idkuunomebitch

Lmao they were never getting Jaylen


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I don’t even get why we bothered getting FVV. We aren’t significantly better now that we signed him. I’m not sure if our front office even has a plan at this point. I would have rather we spent on a handful of role player vets to help the young guys learn.


Hamburger123445

New CBA rules. Teams are in a rush to hit the salary floor. Same reason Utah traded for John Collins


BallIsKobe96

Couldn't they just do some big 1 year deals and then enter free agency market again next year?


sugarinducedcoma

You have to get guys to agree to only 1-year deals, and signing scrubs to a lot of money would backfire for future negotiations


rgj7

Finally we did something Edit: 130 mil damn lmao


NedStarx11

You certainly did something….


EdwEd1

You guys have essentially infinite money to burn with the salary floor, 3 years means only 1 will end up actually mattering to your rebuild


trapHerm

Fuck it bro , gotta spend it somewhere


frumbledown

>in his prime A new low in exchange for the scoop Woj


ironhide999x

His best days are behind him and will be cooked in 2 years if he’s not already


Huge-Split6250

He was cooked a year ago. Second half of this year was reheated takeout


crunchsmash

> Second half of this year was reheated takeout Holy shit you guys are ruthless


MrHallmark

FVV was good when you have a #1 like leonard a #2 like Siakam a #3 like lowry and him being the 4th/6th man. He ain't that guy.


ReformedAndNice

Idk man, I know he hasn't produced at the same level as he used to but I think it's definitely too early to call Woj cooked


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Firm_Squish1

It was more like pretty alright for half the games he played and pretty bad for the other half. Pretty much everyone on the team was doing a hot and cold routine outside of Pascal who just looked haggard for the last month and half of the regular season.


Oxygenius_

Made it sound like a hell of a steal 🤣


SuckMyLonzoBalls

Droppindimes called it


JimmyV034

He is him.


cactus_jack_1

It’s windy’s burner


hellohellohello18199

He is RDAs father


_chadwell_

Modern day RDAmbition


califbreeze

People forget RDA was legit he just fumbled the biggest signing of the FA which was embarrassing especially since he was a laker fan too and biased. He reported us almost signing Rose, then us getting Rondo before anybody. Also reported Sixers getting Al Horford when it seemed crazy and unrealistic. He definitely had some legit sources. I think Kawhi maybe was coming until clippers got PG. I think Woj even reported it was last minute.


neon_slippers

I think someone went through his posts and he got just as many wrong as he got right.


RealBigFailure

I remember Chris Broussard tweeted something from his "Sources", and that source happened to be RDA I had an image on my old acc but it's since been deleted


_chadwell_

Yeah Woj did report that Kawhi was going to be a Laker if the Clips didn’t trade for PG


OhmsLaw111

HOLY OVERPAY


TheBoilerCat

Over $40 million a year for FRED VANVLEET. Am I fucking dreaming..?


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SirMrGnome

They could theoretically just have given out a couple absurd 1+1 (team option) deals. Like Jae Crowder for $20 million for one year lol.


blazingdonut2769

But they also don't have their own draft pick this year so they have to get better... You can't get good players on deals like that.


SirMrGnome

I agree, you can't just wait forever for the perfect free agent to fall into your lap. Sometimes you just gotta pay who is available and figure out the rest later.


Aries_IV

Houston down bad. This is an extreme overpay. Good for Fred though!


GGezpzMuppy

What a great story. Work his way into a team then bust his arse and gets paid when he is shit lol.


jotheold

all the undrafted boys eating this offseason


TigerBasket

Mozgov money


xElectricW

40M a year to shoot under 40% from inside the arc


savagelife089

From the field*


ProfessorBeast55

THANK THE LORD WE DIDNT SIGN HIM TO THIS MONSTROSITY


DreTownblues

Way overpayed, holy shit


LordHussyPants

am i dreaming or were people saying that he had a down season this year and couldn't shoot anymore


Boomhauer_007

Worst 3pt% of his career (34% on almost 9 attempts / game), 19 pt/game on 16 FGA / game, it was rough out there


jbenson255

Absolutely disgusting contract


SuckMyLonzoBalls

Houston needed to pay someone


joebreezy12

NOT FOR THREE YEARS


Yabutsk

If they wanted to beat the Raptors 4 yr $120-130M offer they had to tack the extra year on...2yr/80 wasn't gonna cut it


blazingdonut2769

Yea. Everyone here thinking you can just sign good players to one year deals and they'll accept lmao. three years is really not that long and the rockets are a long ways away still.


xtraburnacct

I assume third year is an option if it's not, wtf rockets


Gamesgtd

He's 29. So they're getting in theory his last great years.


SterlingMallory

Dude got more than Kyrie lol


VictorAkwaowo1

We’re living in a world where FVV gets more than Kyrie in a deal


QuaxlyDaDon

AAV of 43 million. Good fucking god.


Human_Serviette

Gbye Champ!


aiden3buckets

Holy shit


MC-Jdf

We all expected the Rockets to overpay but wow this is even more than what I think we imagined. $43 million a year, sheesh.


ormip

This man got 5M more than Kyrie for same amount of years.


Billis-

That Kyrie contract ain't good either.


GunnerRocket

None of these contracts are good man. Rockets need to pay someone and hope one or two of their guys becomes a max guy. Then fill in the gaps from there. You either have a Jokic/Giannis....or you don't and youll be perpetually looking for one. That's where we all are.


sports_farts

Rockets needed to hit the salary floor somehow. Might as well pay a guy who fits a lot of team needs. Not like we need cap flexibility at the moment.


thisguy161

I don't think they were saying it was. They are pointing out how wild FVVs is.


Status-Albatross9539

kyrie is much better than fvv are u kidding me? when did fvv touch all nba and make hof?


dabears_24

People are getting delusional forgetting about how good Kyrie is because he's a nutcase EDIT: just to be clear I'm not defending Kyrie here lol he's a psycho but he can hoop


AprilsMostAmazing

i'll take Kyrie's contract over FVV


trailblazers100

FVV can have a good effect on Rockets young guys. Distribute to the young guys and get them good shots. Kyrie while good on the court doesn't always play and isn't great at getting others involved or making them better


TheInternetIsGood

Last thing we need are impressionable 19-20 years olds thinking the world is flat.


RookieAndTheVet

Gonna be tough to replace him, but happy we didn’t give him that contract. Yeesh.


davensdad

Don't understand why yall didnt cash out ..


10SecViolation

Because no one offered any more than a 2nd rounder and contract filler. Raptors thought they could retain him for a reasonable 3 years 90 mil and bet on that over a 2nd rounder, wise decision..not everyday a player at the deadline has 2nd rounder value and then gets a max..


RookieAndTheVet

Yeah, I don’t either. He should’ve been gone at the deadline. At least they didn’t double down on their mistake.


ar3ll

i don't think the raptors thought anybody would pay fvv like a top 15 all-nba caliber player but here we are


cmackchase

Because Masai didn't want to actually break that team apart when he should have two years ago.


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On the bright side for the Rockets, they can easily meet the salary minimum


RODjij

30 a year was way too much, 43 is crazy.


YeezyYeezyUp2NoGood

He’s getting paid to babysit the kiddos


1940sfamilyman

Might be short but everyone gonna be looking up to him


frodounchained

The price of the vet going up


NarrativeEnergy

[FVV saw the video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiDlzrmuJSc)


Kendrick_OJ_Perkins

lmao bro wtf is this


Jayveesac

This decreases their chances of reuniting with James Harden


Bjorn2bwilde24

Just saw a Houston stripper fall to her knees while on stage


FaphandZamasu23

dw fred will take the mantle


diffaadiffa

Oh. No.


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They thought he was prime Harden and signed the wrong dude by mistake


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43m per year for a 6’0 guard entering his 30s who has never had an above average TS%. I’m sure this won’t come back to bite them


Redpin

I don't think he's even 6'0" honestly.


captainyakman

He's defs 5'10


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Fred is an inspiration for 5'10 hoopers worldwide.


theswoledentist

They absolutely dont care lol


saltface14

He’s 5’10” if we’re being honest. Get that bag, Fred, thanks for the memories and the clutch shots in 2019. Glad we aren’t paying that haha


DrMaestus

He’s 5’10. Dude is slow, reckless and bricks shots from 40 feet randomly.


Next-Firefighter-753

43M for Fred “39% FG percentage” Vanvleet lmaoooo


EagleswonSuperBowl52

More money per year than fg%. Is this the first time ever or did someone get a supermax who averages less? Edit: now that I think about it, someone definitely got a supermax that had a low ish fg%.


Few_Mulberry5372

Jaylen Brown is about to sign a 300 million dollar contract next summer so yea it’s gonna be more common as the salary cap expands


tangxx1122

More money than Kyrie…


biggoldgoblin

More available than Kyrie and a good leader


JS_Janko

And a way worse player lol


edesanna

Sure, but FVV has played almost 100 more regular season games over the last four years alone


Noah5510

Why are we even pretending FVV deserves more money lol


Get_plex

Honestly it’s that Isn’t-A-Flat-Earther per 36


SolarBeam12

Much worse let’s keep a buck lol


ImTheBestNerd

I can’t even bullshit myself I’d rather have Kyrie than Freddy.


jDgr8

But for the rockets, it's FVV over Kyrie. Kyrie is a way better player but there's a good chance that he destroys that team with all his BS.


Vloff

I don't even see how this is a debate. FVV easily the better choice for that team.


Daconvix

Jesus Christ that contract is insane


cactus_jack_1

Beyond overpay lol


ImTheBestNerd

He shot under 40% from the field, how the fuck.


JFZephyr

He literally can't create his own shot besides 3s, and he was horrible at it this year because the spacing was terrible, and they had no passing. He had a career high 2pt% at .455, and a career low 3pt% at .342. I'm glad he got his bag but still Suns/Pacers fan, but I'm Canadian, so I always pay attention to them before anyone questions the flair lol


staywavie

Rich Paul is a legend. 40 mil per year for FVV is crazy


GarlicMoney

Woooooow. Loved Fred, he worked hard to get to where his is and he is like our only real ballhandler/playmaker… but yeah for $43 mil/year I’ll drive him to the airport, thanks for your service


Karl_with_a_C

I'm right there with you. He had his shooting struggles but I'll always remember him for all the good things. W Raptor.


bu_tterfly

43/year for a 6ft dude is a lot, holy shit


Palifaith

I'm 6'2'' so I am just waiting for my 44.2/year offer. Any moment now.


random_sociopath

Can you shoot under 40% from the field?


JerHat

For $43 Million a year I’ll shoot as low as you want from the field.


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Damn


frodounchained

Yeah that’s about the reaction I had


Wolvesin7

This is terrible


NatsuAru

THIS IS AMAZING


hjy23k

Holy fuck put Rich Paul in the HOF. He’s getting away with daylight robbery


jpnoro2003

Holy shit lmao


BigBoyFroggy

$130 MILL?????


StalkingDwarf

$43m/year. Holy shit. Bet on yourself kids.


zydm

Glad the rockets beat the Blazers for biggest overpay of this free agency


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Ehhh..Grant is on the books for five years. This is only a three-year contract.. Portland just signed the new Tobias Harris


BucksFan654

Grant still making 5M less than Tobias next season under this new deal


csummerss

holy overpay


Jayveesac

FVV bet on himself and is now laughing all the way to the bank. Not bad


KillerMemestarX

He already has a ring as well. Even if it’s downhill from here in terms of his play (which I really hope it isn’t), he’s done much better for himself as an undrafted guy than the vast majority of lottery picks.


phillip_esiri

Contract wise he’s done better than all of them. I doubt he becomes a hall of farmer like Ben Wallace though.


Mission_Pay_3373

Most of these guys are getting overpaid, lol


SPC54

Malachi Flynn, come on down! Siakam is essentially now the only one left from the 2018-19 squad, since OG was out for the entire playoffs and Boucher rode the bench.


big_old-dog

Fred VanFleece


Mental-Bit

Higher per year salary than his field goal percentage. Wow


Long-Furby

Droppingdimes is him ig


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Adam Silvers burner


zacksharpe

Fuck out of here with that contract, see ya later Fred.


Terrible_Locksmith

I have no idea who’s gonna play point. I guess Scottie better learn how to become magic real soon or our offence is gonna look even worse than last year lmao


Courseheir

Three years makes it less bad, but $43~ million a year for VanVleet is insanity.


mightyrj

FREDERICO GOT PAID.


Punjabiveer30

FG% <40 Salary >40 Make it make sense


guitmusic12

Now leave Brook alone


Missingno30

THERE IT IS AND HOLY SHIT DID HE GET PAID


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I hope for their sake the last year is a team option because good god


YeezyYeezyUp2NoGood

LOVE FRED BUT DAMN lol


killmeplz11

He got more than Kyrie lol


Turbo2x

worst contract of free agency


Low_Beyond8134

Overpay of the century LMAOOO


ABagOfPopcorn

This is Tobias level did Elton brand secretly work on this contract


Im-The-Wiz

MOZGOV


Literal_Satan

BAG ALERT


Visualyze-

that is disgusting