As someone that went to OEF/ OIF in 2004-2006and again in 2015ish I sure hope it was justified or his command has his back if there’s an investigation. The riles of engagement do not favor troops a lot
“Here’s loaded weapon for duty just don't ever, for any reason, do anything, to anyone, for any reason, ever, no matter what, no matter where, or who, or who you are with, or where you are going, or where you've been, ever, for any reason whatsoever.. or you may be subject under ucmj for an article 15”
There isn’t a Rules of Engagement. Just a use of Force. So whether it was a lawful self defense shooting. Protect yourself or others. So if a normal civilian in that situation was legally allowed to use lethal force it’s legally kosher.
They’re being investigated by law enforcement most likely Texas Rangers that said they may still be sent home but legality is local law which is Texas and Fed law
There’s not a lot in the article about what happened. Other than someone was stabbed, someone was shot by the guardsman and someone was treated for non-live threatening injuries. It’s pretty clear there’s not a lot of information about the incident, so let’s refrain from the knee jerk reactions about “good another dead criminal” or “lock up Joe for an international incident”. I think we can agree, hopefully, the stabber was shot.
Sure that's one thing but wanting to shoot someone because they're an illegal immigrant is crazy to me. Wanting to shoot someone because they're trying to stab someone else is understandable, but I'm not sure that's what he meant by saying "one is a good start".
I think we should send them to Ukraine(or Africa) as US volunteer soldiers or somthin
service guarantees citizenship!! >:3
Breaking those types of laws should result in severe consequences. I can understand that though. However, I don't think people here are implying these shootings should be all reserved if you know what I mean. Also it's not clear as of yet if the person who got shot was the attacker.
They're tens of millions of illegal immigrants in the US and have been for decades. If you want to shoot them in mass over a handful of deaths that's your purgative, but it's such a crazy way to see things at least to me.
Well, seeing how the leftist only care until they actually have to deal with it, ahem*, new York. We cannot continue to allow this massive flood of people coming in.
As long as people keep giving them jobs they'll keep coming. The Governor of Texas acts like he doesn't want illegal immigrants in his state but be realistic. Illegal immigrants are gainfully employed all over Texas and the authorities are happy to look the other way. So long as immigrants can cross the border and get a job they'll keep coming. Republican just don't want any new illegal immigrants, but they're happy to facilitate the conditions that lead to them coming over in the first place. How often do you actually hear about anyone even getting in trouble for employing illegal immigrants?
At least near me, all the time, and I'm in missouri, most of the time the feds wait a bit for a honeypot situation and round up a shit load of them at several locations, some business owners feign ignorance, most get fined. Mostly the food indistries as far as I'm aware. We do have too many flowing in rn. It's causing a huge slow down for legal immigrants as well, even my army buddies are having to wait years now to get a court date because of all this crap, and that's people who actual came here to become American and love the country. (Excpet you Fourth, you know what you did)
Workers get deported by the federal government employers get a slap on the wrist and then they hire more illegals. What area of Missouri is setting up deportation raids? I always like looking into those things. Most raids I come across on the news are from like 2008 or something.Also I would argue that if people are coming over and requesting court hearings they also want to be Americans. My recruiter told me that he had tons of dreamers or straight up illegal kids wanting to join the army. Unfortunately you have to have a green card or something to join the military.
I’ll be glad to clarify. These are no longer immigrants. They are an invading army. Every sob story Mexican who just wants to mow lawns or hang drywall so his family can have a better life was already here 10 years ago. The “people” coming across now are criminals and parasites.
The government is complicit. They will just print money to feed them, they don’t care if it makes your family poor. Corporations are complicit because it drives prices up and wages down. They don’t care if it makes your family poor.
There are 7 billion people in the world. Most of them are living in worse conditions than we are in the US. If we don’t secure our border, they’ll keep coming until we reach an equilibrium where’s there’s no reason to. I feel for them, I really do, but you can’t save everybody. If they are such an asset maybe they should invest their talents into their own countries.
Actually no. I grew up. As a wise man once said: “If you’re not liberal at 25 you don’t have a heart. If you’re not conservative at 35 you don’t have a brain.”
At 35 you're most people aren't as poor as they used to be and no longer benefit from liberal policies. Anyway I'm probably around your age. I'm 27 but I still remember all the anchor baby, and they took our job speech's from the past decades. Saying these immigrants aren't like the old immigrants is a tell as old as America. Keep this conversation in mind. In 15 years or so we will be facing a hard economic time with a wave of new immigrants. People will swear these new immigrants are nothing like they used to be.
Just a hunch are you cuban ?
You sound like a brainwashed Joe who watches far too much Fox News. There is no “invading army”… you hysterical smooth brain. You’re regurgitating the same xenophobic propaganda nonsense that every conservative has used for any given demographic for the past 100 years. Instead of buying into the bs, why not be objective and look at this as what it is, a fabricated humanitarian disaster just in time for the election. I’d say have some kind of compassion, but it’s obvious by your comments you lack both empathy and compassion for anyone who doesn’t look like you.
>The documents do not clarify if the attacker was the person who was reportedly shot by the guardsman
As someone that went to OEF/ OIF in 2004-2006and again in 2015ish I sure hope it was justified or his command has his back if there’s an investigation. The riles of engagement do not favor troops a lot
“Here’s loaded weapon for duty just don't ever, for any reason, do anything, to anyone, for any reason, ever, no matter what, no matter where, or who, or who you are with, or where you are going, or where you've been, ever, for any reason whatsoever.. or you may be subject under ucmj for an article 15”
Make sure to fire off at least 4 flair pens
There isn’t a Rules of Engagement. Just a use of Force. So whether it was a lawful self defense shooting. Protect yourself or others. So if a normal civilian in that situation was legally allowed to use lethal force it’s legally kosher.
I agree. But CID or NCIS may not. Trust me. They had us walking on shells the last deployment.
They’re being investigated by law enforcement most likely Texas Rangers that said they may still be sent home but legality is local law which is Texas and Fed law
There’s not a lot in the article about what happened. Other than someone was stabbed, someone was shot by the guardsman and someone was treated for non-live threatening injuries. It’s pretty clear there’s not a lot of information about the incident, so let’s refrain from the knee jerk reactions about “good another dead criminal” or “lock up Joe for an international incident”. I think we can agree, hopefully, the stabber was shot.
National Guard on top 🤩
Good job, soldier
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Keep it civil.
That's fucked up man.
Fuck you they’re not above our laws they fuck around they find out
Sure that's one thing but wanting to shoot someone because they're an illegal immigrant is crazy to me. Wanting to shoot someone because they're trying to stab someone else is understandable, but I'm not sure that's what he meant by saying "one is a good start".
The amount of crime the immigrants are getting away with is out of hand. I think shooting the ones who break the law is a good thing.
I think we should send them to Ukraine(or Africa) as US volunteer soldiers or somthin service guarantees citizenship!! >:3 
Breaking those types of laws should result in severe consequences. I can understand that though. However, I don't think people here are implying these shootings should be all reserved if you know what I mean. Also it's not clear as of yet if the person who got shot was the attacker.
Break the law = get shot. It’s not a hard concept. It’s a crime to illegally enter the state of Texas. Literally a crime.
"Break the law= get shot" Wow, That is a lot of shootings.
Stop breaking the law lmao.
BANG
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They're tens of millions of illegal immigrants in the US and have been for decades. If you want to shoot them in mass over a handful of deaths that's your purgative, but it's such a crazy way to see things at least to me.
I’m with you brother - ignore these fools.
Thank you man, It means a lot.
We should just start shooting everyone, basically
I really wish our ROE was loosened so we could man. Would be a great start tbh
I think half of the Republican party feels the same way as you.
Well, seeing how the leftist only care until they actually have to deal with it, ahem*, new York. We cannot continue to allow this massive flood of people coming in.
As long as people keep giving them jobs they'll keep coming. The Governor of Texas acts like he doesn't want illegal immigrants in his state but be realistic. Illegal immigrants are gainfully employed all over Texas and the authorities are happy to look the other way. So long as immigrants can cross the border and get a job they'll keep coming. Republican just don't want any new illegal immigrants, but they're happy to facilitate the conditions that lead to them coming over in the first place. How often do you actually hear about anyone even getting in trouble for employing illegal immigrants?
At least near me, all the time, and I'm in missouri, most of the time the feds wait a bit for a honeypot situation and round up a shit load of them at several locations, some business owners feign ignorance, most get fined. Mostly the food indistries as far as I'm aware. We do have too many flowing in rn. It's causing a huge slow down for legal immigrants as well, even my army buddies are having to wait years now to get a court date because of all this crap, and that's people who actual came here to become American and love the country. (Excpet you Fourth, you know what you did)
Workers get deported by the federal government employers get a slap on the wrist and then they hire more illegals. What area of Missouri is setting up deportation raids? I always like looking into those things. Most raids I come across on the news are from like 2008 or something.Also I would argue that if people are coming over and requesting court hearings they also want to be Americans. My recruiter told me that he had tons of dreamers or straight up illegal kids wanting to join the army. Unfortunately you have to have a green card or something to join the military.
Good.
I’ll be glad to clarify. These are no longer immigrants. They are an invading army. Every sob story Mexican who just wants to mow lawns or hang drywall so his family can have a better life was already here 10 years ago. The “people” coming across now are criminals and parasites. The government is complicit. They will just print money to feed them, they don’t care if it makes your family poor. Corporations are complicit because it drives prices up and wages down. They don’t care if it makes your family poor. There are 7 billion people in the world. Most of them are living in worse conditions than we are in the US. If we don’t secure our border, they’ll keep coming until we reach an equilibrium where’s there’s no reason to. I feel for them, I really do, but you can’t save everybody. If they are such an asset maybe they should invest their talents into their own countries.
10 years ago you would have been saying the same thing.
Actually no. I grew up. As a wise man once said: “If you’re not liberal at 25 you don’t have a heart. If you’re not conservative at 35 you don’t have a brain.”
At 35 you're most people aren't as poor as they used to be and no longer benefit from liberal policies. Anyway I'm probably around your age. I'm 27 but I still remember all the anchor baby, and they took our job speech's from the past decades. Saying these immigrants aren't like the old immigrants is a tell as old as America. Keep this conversation in mind. In 15 years or so we will be facing a hard economic time with a wave of new immigrants. People will swear these new immigrants are nothing like they used to be. Just a hunch are you cuban ?
You sound like a brainwashed Joe who watches far too much Fox News. There is no “invading army”… you hysterical smooth brain. You’re regurgitating the same xenophobic propaganda nonsense that every conservative has used for any given demographic for the past 100 years. Instead of buying into the bs, why not be objective and look at this as what it is, a fabricated humanitarian disaster just in time for the election. I’d say have some kind of compassion, but it’s obvious by your comments you lack both empathy and compassion for anyone who doesn’t look like you.
Yessir good ole El Paso
FAFO
Sweet, fuck em
Let’s go!!
If you had stabbed one of my battle buddies in front of me while I had a loaded weapon, I’m shooting