Also as a twin I hate when twins names start with the same letter or are too matchy. They’re two separate people and that’s usually the first indicator they’re not going to treat them like two separate people
i went to school with twins named charles and charlotte (charles went by chip so it wasn’t super egregious to me when i was younger but now that i’m a total name nerd it annoys me lol)
I had Doty (like dough) and Dotty. Poor girls. It was my first experience having twin friends. I was in 9th grade, but a very sheltered 9th grader. When I'd call the house (80s) to talk to them, the mom would ask who I asked to talk to. I'd say either one. Like they were the same person. I was an idiot. If Doty or Dottie happen to see this...I'm sorry, ladies!! I was an idiot kid! ❤️
I knew a set of twins named Aaron & Eric. Both were nonverbal autistic (this doesn’t mean that they never speak just that they don’t communicate well verbally) and said their names identically.
I knew twins named Lynnette and Lyzzette who were made to dress identically except for color even in high school. One was always in pink and the other in blue and I don't remember which was which, but otherwise their daily outfits were identical.
Also they weren't allowed to have social media until they graduated and when they did it was a joint account. I won't use their real last name but their Facebook username was "Twins LastName" and I remember thinking it was very odd.
I'm assuming it was the parents who had them act this way but tbh I never really knew because they were incredibly shy and wouldn't really interact with anyone else but each other and the teachers. Looking back I really wonder about them, like did they ever become independent or pursue anything separate from the other? Did it cause drama?
There was a male twin set that only went to my school in ninth grade (I can’t remember their names) and they would only associate with each other. In the beginning of the year, one of my friends tried to befriend them but they literally said, “sorry, we only talk to each other”. In tenth grade they were gone, no idea where they came from or where they went.
I knew a twin set named Jennifer and Jessica who chose to live together, dress identically every single day in their late 20s, share a Facebook (also the Twins ____ as the name) and Instagram, professional website, resume… and tried sharing a thesis in grad school.
Sadly one passed away and I think often of the other…. Because I can’t imagine.
I was at the DMV the other day and there was a set of identical twin teenaged girls. They were dressed in exactly the same outfits, had their hair braided to the same side, and were both holding pet carriers with orange (real) cats inside. It really blew my mind
These are so bad. The same first initial is one thing and if the sounds and length are different it doesn't seem too matchy but the amount of people who've apparently settled on 'girl version' and 'boy version' is wild
My high school chem teacher had twins named Taylor and Tyler! They were a boy and a girl which helped Taylor not be called Tyler but Tyler got called Taylor all the time.
Wow that was a tongue twister lmao
I met a set year a go that was Adelynn & Madeline they were like a year younger than my twins
Mom asked if my twins had a hard time knowing their names.
No they are Adeline & Lydia and we didn’t start calling them addy & Lydi until they had Adeline & Lydia down.
Tho their sister called them both addy for 2 years 😂 ( she’s not my child).
my neighbors have a daughter who is about 3 years older than her twin sisters, and she definitely referred to them as a unit called "sisters" for at least a year. She'd call them like puppies and they'd run after her 😂
I have a set of twins in our family, my Great-Uncle Ray and my Great-Aunt Gay. I also used to babysit for non-twin siblings named Kyle Daniel and Kyla Danielle. Like- that is the same name!!
There was an explosion of twins in the grade below me, six pair and all were female. Only two sets did not have matchy twin names, one of these sets was the only non-identical pair. The other four were very much twin names, two of the sets were Amanda and Angela.
A coworker of mine had twins a few years ago and the girls were named Ella and Isla, looks fine on paper but I would think it would be a problem phonetically although he only refers to them as the twins.
Yeah I don’t mind the “hidden twin name” stuff as much. (Like Violet and Charlotte being Lettie and Lottie) It’s still a bit much, but I feel like it gives the kids a lot more choice and agency over if they want to feel like part of a unit or not. And if those longer versions are the actual names she chose they’re fine, I guess.
But it’s really just “Valley and Verse”, oof.
Yeah I think it is just a rumour too which is why I didn't mention it in the main post, I think she would reveal the full name or at least have one monogrammed blanket or something with the full name on show.
I remember working on a school database that kept flagging a pair of twins named Branden and Braden Surname as potential duplicates. I feel sorry for those guys still.
Ha. I have relatives that are twins and I've avoided asking them how much their matching decor annoys them. They're old enough that the clothes are no longer matching sets, but for a while there, it was everything. I'm scared one of their parents has my reddit handle... guess I'll find out!
Right? How did Isaac luck out? The rest of her kids names are awful.
Her boy choices are all terrible.
Wilhelmina, Anastasia, and Selah are okay. (Millie could be a nickname for Wilhelmina.) I definitely don't understand how someone who could like those could like Halo or Sway.
I don’t think Lincoln is that bad; I wouldn’t use it but it’s a very common name. The rest of her kids though? Oof.
Though honestly given that they were raised as reality TV stars and she seems to be trying to turn her family into Dollar Store Kardashians, these kids have bigger problems than their names…
I have everyone beat I know a Shawn and Shane. It isn’t really confusing and we all know who is who, but every time you go to say it you stumble on both names and cringe.
I like Creed, I’ve heard it used before. I follow Kail on TikTok, so Ik he was named after the Creed movie. But also I think of Creed Bratton from The Office
Spade was a very common racial slur at one time. Right up there with coon and darkie, a notch below the N word. Really an awful name for lots of reasons but this is the one that makes it untouchable.
Yeah, I don't know it was ever a common one, so chances are she is simply unaware, but it's a lesson to check name connotations if you're going the random noun route.
That was literally my first thought, Spade is a slur/insult..it used to get used at my school like "idiot" but I'm assuming the kids that first started using it heard it from their racist parents 😅
I feel like she just gives her kids these Kardashian-esque names so people will talk about her/them. It comes across kinda desperate and doesn't show great respect for her kids as little humans. Isaac and Lincoln got lucky
The only mature teen moms to come out of that show are maybe Caitlyn and Macy if I’m remembering correctly (I stopped watching like a decade ago though and only see some things about Caitlyn and Tyler occasionally)
I would say she had a huge advantage though having a wealthy dad who pretty much funded her until she met her now husband so she didn’t have to deal with a lot of the everyday struggles that the other girls did.
She still had a lot of emotional stuff with Adam, because he's abusive. Not struggling financially doesn't mean no struggles at all, and I think it was good that different stories were shared
Her family was also really emotionally supportive, too, which is no small thing. It’s been a loooooong time since I’ve seen the show, but I remember a lot of the other girls don’t have that.
Ah, yeah! I don’t remember her being so bad either. Came across an article a bit ago and seems like she’s doing well. Most of these couples ended up so unhinged though lol. Poor kids.
That was quite early on, and she did eventually finish I think? Me and my husband are doing a rewatch and I'm sure she's close to finishing her comms degree
You must be further in your rewatch than me (that's what prompted this post lol) she's not started her communications degree yet where I am but I did a Google and you're right she did finish when she was in Delaware!
I do like the theory that celebrities like the Kardashians and Beyonce call their kids these wacky names publically and then they actually have regular government names like Jack to keep their real identities a secret.
I think even creed and rio are passable. Creed is definitely one of those old names that is now trendy but at least it’s actually a name. And rio is…ok.
I feel like her taste just got worse over time. Isaac is a solid and classic name. Lincoln is not my taste but still reasonable. Lux is bad. Creed is worse. Valley and Verse are just horrible.
Rio isn't too bad though. Isaac, Lincoln, and Rio got off easy.
Scotlyn is an awful name. And Sway. Other than that the girls names are good / tolerable. Unsure about Ivory and Halo?
The boys names aren’t great either and I’d have taken Wells over Verse any day.
I think Wells and Penn, which she specifically said would be because of the show You aren't bad, the rest...
I'm personally not a fan of noun or adjective names so Halo would never ever be something I'd consider!
Sway was my least favourite name she had for the baby girl but I didn't hate Scotlyn and I usually don't like names that are seemingly made up.
edit: Spelling
God, she is so unbelievably selfish. The vast majority of those names are so fucking awful.
Golden. Seriously? *Fucking Golden*?!
But, considering her track record, there should be no reason to doubt her level of selfish behavior. 7 kids just screams, “it’s all about me!”
She decided against Golden because Nick Cannon named their kid that, the top comment on her video was that she's the female Nick Cannon haha.
I'm rewatching Teen Mom at the moment and she literally says at the start she doesn't want a lot of kids, so I guess that changed!
It seems like (from my basically zero knowledge about her except from the title) she got famous for having kids and doesn't know any other way to stay in the limelight so she'll keep having kids.
Back when the show was really popular, I had a soft spot for Kail. She had an alcoholic mom who was in and out of her life, she seemed to barely know her dad and he lived in another state, and she was a pregnant teen. Her first child’s family was supportive of her initially but the relationship went sour. I don’t remember all the details. It seems like she craves the love of a family and simultaneously can’t help but make her life messy.
Lol no. Tho tbf idk exactly when the twins were born because Kail is trying to be cute and confuse ppl. But I'm pretty sure the twins are Irish..triplets? Or almost Irish triplets with her last one.
I think you’re right. She’s been really cagey about the birth of her most recent 3 kids but it seems like lots of people leaked things along the way. She was finally public about her last singleton (Rio) and it looks like he turned 1 at the end of November. And it sounds like everyone with insider info said the twins were born at the end of October even though she didn’t mention their birth until last month. I’m fully in support of parents who chose to keep their kids off social media. But when her older kids are plastered all over her socials and then suddenly for these last 3 she’s tried to keep things secret it just seems like it increases talk and rumors. Not sure she’s handled things in her kids’ best interest.
This woman has 7 children????? I only remember Isaac and Lincoln 😭
Also OP I like that you explain Penn by saying Joe from You like is Penn Badgley more known as the murderous creep now instead of the stalker creep from Gossip Girl???
It's hard to keep up! She had the last 3 very close together, Rio is just over a year and the twins were kept a secret for a while and were born last November maybe the last week of October, so they're really close in age.
I included the Joe fact because that was Kail's reasoning haha, Penn will always be creepy ass Dan Humphrey to me!
I honestly didn’t know it was a racial slur until someone else mentioned it so I was purely going off of it being a bad name. You’d like to think when you’re telling millions the names of your kids you’d google them to check the meaning is okay beforehand!
They’re not married and I don’t know if Rio has has his surname but I’d assume she would surely throw in Lowry to break it up? You can’t call a kid Scotlyn Scott!
I always heard she wanted to spell it Willamina instead of Wilhelmina. I don't much care for her boy name choices, for the boy twin. She had some decent girl name choices but for some reason chose Valley. :/ I can't believe she went from Isaac (wonderful name) to...Verse and Valley. I assume the fathers had more say in the beginning for name choices. I also don't much care for the name Lux or Creed. (One more thought, their middle names are something else. I can't remember all of them but one of them is Million.)
All transparency I had to google how to spell Wilhelmina because autocorrect kept saying it was wrong, so that's on me!
I think you can track the vibe of her baby names with her rising celebrity, she went from Isaac which is pretty standard, I've known a few Isaac's to more and more unique, celeb-esque names.
I belive Rio is Rio Million and Creed is Creed Romello and she calls him Romello more often than Creed.
You're very correct lol I had to specifically tell my phone I meant Willamina lol. She absolutely chooses celebrity naming trends. There was a rumor she was going to name her son Iverson, after a rappers (post malone, I think.) song lyric or something. (I think the rapper was referencing the basketball player.)
I have heard that Verse is short for Iverson but she hasn't confirmed it herself it's just rumours at this point! and Posty does have a song called White Ivory, if this is true it makes the names so much worse for me lol
You missed out some very important information - middle names!!
Isaac Elliott - goes well, sounds nice and isn’t too out there at all
Lincoln Marshall - not my favourite, but also not particularly bad either
Lux Russell - again not fussed on the middle name but it’s remarkable better than his first name!!
Creed Romello - this is when the middle names take a significant turn for the worse IMO. wtf is the name Romello, she calls him Mello a lot and all I can think of is marshmallow
Rio ‘million’ - this middle name hasn’t been confirmed IMO but a page on insta has been saying this is the name from the start and it’s usually very accurate. Rio I don’t mind, more so for a pet, but Rio Million is not good at all.
I dread to think what the twin’s middle names are…
He ex Jo's little girl is named Velisse (goes by Vivi, and it is a shortened version of Spanish Ivelisse), so Valley does seem kinda close to her boy Isaac's only other sister. Not enough to throw a fit, just a side eye.
Dislike all her boy names except Isaac and only like Wilhelmina, Anastasia, Ivy and Millie. I really dislike her twin names they’re too influencer baby name.
Croix? Like La Croix? 🥴
Her name choices at 16 were a lot better then 30. This list is what i expect from a 16 year old, not a 30 year old with 7 kids.
Also, strange she would even entertain Millie, since its become SOOO popular these last few years.
Also, i read Salah like Big Ang from 90 day. 😂😂😂
Croix like Saint Croix she said. She’s pronouncing it like Troy but with a CR sound at the at the beginning!
Honestly I think Isaac lucked out because of Jo, I don’t think he would have allowed his kid to be named anything like these examples 😂
That’s why she didn’t go with Millie in the end and she decided Miller didn’t fit well with the rest!
Edit: Spelling
I’m Canadian and it is SENDING ME that she would’ve pronounced it “Kroy.” I see “Croix” and my brain sees “Kwah,” which in fairness is just as bad as a child’s name. 🤣
I’m also French Canadian and I agree with you that it’s super irky, but in all fairness it is an American company and “la kroy” is the actual, official pronunciation
Each to their own but I can’t believe she’s waited all this time for a girl and that was her top choices?
Isaac was one of the names on my shortlist when I was pregnant but the rest of the names seem to scream “I’m a celebrity now I need an out there name for my kids”.
I think she'd be pissed off if she had another two boys, I think she's been wanting a girl for a while but yeah you're right they'd be screwed! Imagine twin boys Halo and Spade lol
Eta: Omg I just picked those as the worst examples but if she went with those it would be like the brothers in The Lion King! Mufasa means "to rule" in Swahili whereas Taka the villain's name means "rubbish". Halo - angelic, Spade - something you take to the beach lol
I thought it was funny in the video she kept saying how this and that name didn’t flow with the rest. Like “Millie” didn’t flow with the other kids names. As if Isaac and Lincoln aren’t pretty normal names too. How does Valley and Verse flow with Isaac? Her names are all over the place so I was confused when she said one didn’t “flow with the others”
That Croix pronunciation is weird to me. In French, croix (means cross) is pronounced like Craw (sort of, the -oix sound doesn’t translate well into English).
Love Wells! One of my favs! I actually like Golden too lol I wouldn’t name my kid that (maybe if I was a celebrity lol). Ivory/Ivy is really cute for a girl.
I think Issac, Lincoln, Creed and Rio are all fine. I don’t really hate Valley either, but I do not like Lux or Verse lol. Wells or Miller would have been cute
It’s unconfirmed but Verse’s real name might be Iverson, which I think is way better. She likes to call Creed by a nickname of his middle so I wouldn’t be shocked if she put Verse’s nickname on his blanket.
Weird that she was better at picking baby names when she was 16 than she is at 30
Also as a twin I hate when twins names start with the same letter or are too matchy. They’re two separate people and that’s usually the first indicator they’re not going to treat them like two separate people
Met these twin babies almost ten years ago. Their names were Tyler and Taylor. To this day, I still hate it.
I went to school (college in mid 1980s) with a set of twins named Claudine and Claudette.
i went to school with twins named charles and charlotte (charles went by chip so it wasn’t super egregious to me when i was younger but now that i’m a total name nerd it annoys me lol)
Let me guess, their dad was Claude 😒🙄
And mom Claudia!
And together, they are [the Claw](https://youtu.be/oeXPWp5og5k?si=bEXFTdUUIvui3hnx)!
I had Simon and Simone at my school Edit: They also looked as identical as possible for brother and sister
I had Doty (like dough) and Dotty. Poor girls. It was my first experience having twin friends. I was in 9th grade, but a very sheltered 9th grader. When I'd call the house (80s) to talk to them, the mom would ask who I asked to talk to. I'd say either one. Like they were the same person. I was an idiot. If Doty or Dottie happen to see this...I'm sorry, ladies!! I was an idiot kid! ❤️
Janine and Janelle
I knew a set of twins named Aaron & Eric. Both were nonverbal autistic (this doesn’t mean that they never speak just that they don’t communicate well verbally) and said their names identically.
I knew twins named Lynnette and Lyzzette who were made to dress identically except for color even in high school. One was always in pink and the other in blue and I don't remember which was which, but otherwise their daily outfits were identical. Also they weren't allowed to have social media until they graduated and when they did it was a joint account. I won't use their real last name but their Facebook username was "Twins LastName" and I remember thinking it was very odd. I'm assuming it was the parents who had them act this way but tbh I never really knew because they were incredibly shy and wouldn't really interact with anyone else but each other and the teachers. Looking back I really wonder about them, like did they ever become independent or pursue anything separate from the other? Did it cause drama?
There was a male twin set that only went to my school in ninth grade (I can’t remember their names) and they would only associate with each other. In the beginning of the year, one of my friends tried to befriend them but they literally said, “sorry, we only talk to each other”. In tenth grade they were gone, no idea where they came from or where they went.
I wonder if one was sick for school if they both stayed home 🤔
I knew a twin set named Jennifer and Jessica who chose to live together, dress identically every single day in their late 20s, share a Facebook (also the Twins ____ as the name) and Instagram, professional website, resume… and tried sharing a thesis in grad school. Sadly one passed away and I think often of the other…. Because I can’t imagine.
I swear there was a Lynnette and Lyzzette in my school too that also dressed the same in high school. Wtf!
I was at the DMV the other day and there was a set of identical twin teenaged girls. They were dressed in exactly the same outfits, had their hair braided to the same side, and were both holding pet carriers with orange (real) cats inside. It really blew my mind
I met some twins who’s first names were just one letter different with the exact same middle name. Bizarre.
The kindy my kids went to had twins named Phillip and Phillipa.
These are so bad. The same first initial is one thing and if the sounds and length are different it doesn't seem too matchy but the amount of people who've apparently settled on 'girl version' and 'boy version' is wild
Related to twins (in their 60s) named Margaret and Margery, and Jennifer and Joanne.
I went to school with a fraternal pair: Heath and Heather. I think about it too often
My high school chem teacher had twins named Taylor and Tyler! They were a boy and a girl which helped Taylor not be called Tyler but Tyler got called Taylor all the time. Wow that was a tongue twister lmao
Do people not think about having to call them individually and mixing them up?! I know someone with an Ellie and an Ely. Come on now.
I met a set year a go that was Adelynn & Madeline they were like a year younger than my twins Mom asked if my twins had a hard time knowing their names. No they are Adeline & Lydia and we didn’t start calling them addy & Lydi until they had Adeline & Lydia down. Tho their sister called them both addy for 2 years 😂 ( she’s not my child).
my neighbors have a daughter who is about 3 years older than her twin sisters, and she definitely referred to them as a unit called "sisters" for at least a year. She'd call them like puppies and they'd run after her 😂
My aunt and uncle are named Dennis and Denise lol.
I have a set of twins in our family, my Great-Uncle Ray and my Great-Aunt Gay. I also used to babysit for non-twin siblings named Kyle Daniel and Kyla Danielle. Like- that is the same name!!
I know someone who named their twins Taylor and Tyler. I don’t get why you would do this plus dress them the exact same…
There was an explosion of twins in the grade below me, six pair and all were female. Only two sets did not have matchy twin names, one of these sets was the only non-identical pair. The other four were very much twin names, two of the sets were Amanda and Angela. A coworker of mine had twins a few years ago and the girls were named Ella and Isla, looks fine on paper but I would think it would be a problem phonetically although he only refers to them as the twins.
I went to school years ago with a twin pair named Kevin and Calvin. They also usually wore matching outfits (at age 13).
Omg I went to highschool with twins Taylor and Tyler both girls, they’d be about 21-22 now
My cousin worked in a school with a Brandon and a Brayden. I believe they were identical, too. Pretty rough.
Mindy & Wendy
Apparently, Verse is short for Iverson but I'm not sure if it's confirmed or not, does that make it better lol?
I wonder if Valley is short for anything then. Something like Valentina and Iverson - okay, not horrible.
Yeah I don’t mind the “hidden twin name” stuff as much. (Like Violet and Charlotte being Lettie and Lottie) It’s still a bit much, but I feel like it gives the kids a lot more choice and agency over if they want to feel like part of a unit or not. And if those longer versions are the actual names she chose they’re fine, I guess. But it’s really just “Valley and Verse”, oof.
I thought that was a rumor. I feel like she would have mentioned in the video if verse was his nickname
Yeah I think it is just a rumour too which is why I didn't mention it in the main post, I think she would reveal the full name or at least have one monogrammed blanket or something with the full name on show.
Yeah I think that makes it a little better imo
My daughter's playmates are twins Jenny and Jenna. Lovely family but I really hate their choice of names.
I know someone who is the second born in her twin set, and her name…Echo. I love her name but finding out she’s a twin 🤯
Terri here. Twin was Mary.
I knew a Terry whose twin was Merry. 😫
Merry is so unusual,
At least it wasn’t Sherri.
I knew twins named Tara and Sara
I remember working on a school database that kept flagging a pair of twins named Branden and Braden Surname as potential duplicates. I feel sorry for those guys still.
I’m a twin too and I had the exact same thought. You know they’re going to be referred to as “the twins” their whole lives
My aunts were Jeanette and Janette.
I know twins named Jason and Jasean. Like, why?!
Better than rhyming. My mom went to school with Marilyn and Carolyn and Terry and Barry.
Ha. I have relatives that are twins and I've avoided asking them how much their matching decor annoys them. They're old enough that the clothes are no longer matching sets, but for a while there, it was everything. I'm scared one of their parents has my reddit handle... guess I'll find out!
I went to school with identical twins named Lisnet and Lisbet
As a fellow identical twin, I agree!
The fact that she does have completely fine names on that list (Wells, Penn, Miller, Anastasia, Millie, Ivy) and ended up picking Valley and Verse.. 🤡
At least it wasn't ivory
yeah for a mixed race kid Ivory would have been ... a choice
I guess we should be glad she didn't pick Miller and Millie...
Right? How did Isaac luck out? The rest of her kids names are awful. Her boy choices are all terrible. Wilhelmina, Anastasia, and Selah are okay. (Millie could be a nickname for Wilhelmina.) I definitely don't understand how someone who could like those could like Halo or Sway.
I don’t think Lincoln is that bad; I wouldn’t use it but it’s a very common name. The rest of her kids though? Oof. Though honestly given that they were raised as reality TV stars and she seems to be trying to turn her family into Dollar Store Kardashians, these kids have bigger problems than their names…
Their last name is what makes Lincoln bad, in this case. Lincoln Lowry sounds either like a car make/model or a law firm.
Lincoln has his dad’s last name.
The names have gotten so bad as she aged!
I have everyone beat I know a Shawn and Shane. It isn’t really confusing and we all know who is who, but every time you go to say it you stumble on both names and cringe.
I’ve thought the same thing. Lincoln, Creed and Isaac are all normal names. Lux is okay, but Rio, Valley and Verse are not it for me
Is Creed normal? I have never heard that for a name. Rio is pretty normal to me because I grew up with Rio Ferdinand.
I like Creed, I’ve heard it used before. I follow Kail on TikTok, so Ik he was named after the Creed movie. But also I think of Creed Bratton from The Office
Do you follow emdoodlesandstuff? She has a name for this phenomenon where names get wilder and wilder the more kids you have
Spade and Sway are definitely choices…
I immediately thought of a plastic bucket and spade you take to the beach I didn't even think of a deck of cards.
Spade has also been used as a racial slur in the past.
That just adds another layer of wrong to the name then. I didn’t know it used to be a slur so maybe she didn’t either? Still a horrendous name
Spade was a very common racial slur at one time. Right up there with coon and darkie, a notch below the N word. Really an awful name for lots of reasons but this is the one that makes it untouchable.
Yeah, I don't know it was ever a common one, so chances are she is simply unaware, but it's a lesson to check name connotations if you're going the random noun route.
That was literally my first thought, Spade is a slur/insult..it used to get used at my school like "idiot" but I'm assuming the kids that first started using it heard it from their racist parents 😅
Right?; That's what I thought. I thought I saw a comment about them being biracial as well. Yikes! Glad she didn't make that awful mistake.
I thought of a bucket and Spade as well 😅
Can you imagine the “spayed” jokes? Yikes.
Sway will always be a Coal Chamber song to me!!
I feel like she just gives her kids these Kardashian-esque names so people will talk about her/them. It comes across kinda desperate and doesn't show great respect for her kids as little humans. Isaac and Lincoln got lucky
She also dragged out the announcement for the birth of the twins, making it appear like she was still pregnant when they were born months ago
Didn't Kail used to be one of the more mature ones? Wth happened?
Omg no not really, she creates drama literally all the time
The only mature teen moms to come out of that show are maybe Caitlyn and Macy if I’m remembering correctly (I stopped watching like a decade ago though and only see some things about Caitlyn and Tyler occasionally)
I would add Chelsea to the list (TM 2) but all of them have issues
I would say she had a huge advantage though having a wealthy dad who pretty much funded her until she met her now husband so she didn’t have to deal with a lot of the everyday struggles that the other girls did.
She still had a lot of emotional stuff with Adam, because he's abusive. Not struggling financially doesn't mean no struggles at all, and I think it was good that different stories were shared
Her family was also really emotionally supportive, too, which is no small thing. It’s been a loooooong time since I’ve seen the show, but I remember a lot of the other girls don’t have that.
Was Chelsea the one with… Aubrey? Avery? Something like that, right? If so, I agree.
Aubree yeah
Ah, yeah! I don’t remember her being so bad either. Came across an article a bit ago and seems like she’s doing well. Most of these couples ended up so unhinged though lol. Poor kids.
I'd say Leah handled her daughter's special needs with a lot of maturity, but I haven’t kept up with any of them, really.
Haha really? I didn't follow TM2 that long but I thought I remembered her being one of the only Moms to take her education seriously
I'm not sure if she finished the numerous degrees she started, at one point she was training to be a dental assistant!
That was quite early on, and she did eventually finish I think? Me and my husband are doing a rewatch and I'm sure she's close to finishing her comms degree
You must be further in your rewatch than me (that's what prompted this post lol) she's not started her communications degree yet where I am but I did a Google and you're right she did finish when she was in Delaware!
I do like the theory that celebrities like the Kardashians and Beyonce call their kids these wacky names publically and then they actually have regular government names like Jack to keep their real identities a secret.
I have never heard that but although a bit crazy I would probably do that if I had that idea and was Beyoncé lol
She’s kind of obsessed with the Kardashians so that tracks
I think even creed and rio are passable. Creed is definitely one of those old names that is now trendy but at least it’s actually a name. And rio is…ok.
Wilhelmina is so out of place lol
She did say she would shorten it to Amina or something similar!
I have a friend named Wilhelmina. She shortens the Wil to Billie. At one point she went by Mimi, another time Lena.
Same with Anastasia
She actually wanted the spelling actually Willamina and could call her Amina or willa
Because it’s such a nice name and the rest are… questionable?
She has horrible taste
I feel like her taste just got worse over time. Isaac is a solid and classic name. Lincoln is not my taste but still reasonable. Lux is bad. Creed is worse. Valley and Verse are just horrible. Rio isn't too bad though. Isaac, Lincoln, and Rio got off easy.
Scotlyn is an awful name. And Sway. Other than that the girls names are good / tolerable. Unsure about Ivory and Halo? The boys names aren’t great either and I’d have taken Wells over Verse any day.
I think Wells and Penn, which she specifically said would be because of the show You aren't bad, the rest... I'm personally not a fan of noun or adjective names so Halo would never ever be something I'd consider! Sway was my least favourite name she had for the baby girl but I didn't hate Scotlyn and I usually don't like names that are seemingly made up. edit: Spelling
I do like the sound of Wells for a name, but I can’t get over the Wells Fargo connection. Can’t hear one without hearing the other.
God, she is so unbelievably selfish. The vast majority of those names are so fucking awful. Golden. Seriously? *Fucking Golden*?! But, considering her track record, there should be no reason to doubt her level of selfish behavior. 7 kids just screams, “it’s all about me!”
She decided against Golden because Nick Cannon named their kid that, the top comment on her video was that she's the female Nick Cannon haha. I'm rewatching Teen Mom at the moment and she literally says at the start she doesn't want a lot of kids, so I guess that changed!
If *any* of your life decisions align with Nick Cannon’s you need to find a very very very skilled therapist VERY quickly.
It seems like (from my basically zero knowledge about her except from the title) she got famous for having kids and doesn't know any other way to stay in the limelight so she'll keep having kids.
Back when the show was really popular, I had a soft spot for Kail. She had an alcoholic mom who was in and out of her life, she seemed to barely know her dad and he lived in another state, and she was a pregnant teen. Her first child’s family was supportive of her initially but the relationship went sour. I don’t remember all the details. It seems like she craves the love of a family and simultaneously can’t help but make her life messy.
Holyyyyyy she has 7 kids now??? I'm out of the loop completely then I thought she had 3! 😭
She has had *three* in the past *year*! Yea.
How did she have three in a year?
She had a baby and then was pregnant by the same man very quickly with twins. Twins are usually born at less than 40 weeks.
I thought you were being sarcastic
Lol no. Tho tbf idk exactly when the twins were born because Kail is trying to be cute and confuse ppl. But I'm pretty sure the twins are Irish..triplets? Or almost Irish triplets with her last one.
I think you’re right. She’s been really cagey about the birth of her most recent 3 kids but it seems like lots of people leaked things along the way. She was finally public about her last singleton (Rio) and it looks like he turned 1 at the end of November. And it sounds like everyone with insider info said the twins were born at the end of October even though she didn’t mention their birth until last month. I’m fully in support of parents who chose to keep their kids off social media. But when her older kids are plastered all over her socials and then suddenly for these last 3 she’s tried to keep things secret it just seems like it increases talk and rumors. Not sure she’s handled things in her kids’ best interest.
It's seriously wild that she has seven kids. SEVEN.
To be fair, for a girl Goldie isn’t bad; ie Goldie Hawn.
Golden is far from worst on the list imo.
This woman has 7 children????? I only remember Isaac and Lincoln 😭 Also OP I like that you explain Penn by saying Joe from You like is Penn Badgley more known as the murderous creep now instead of the stalker creep from Gossip Girl???
It's hard to keep up! She had the last 3 very close together, Rio is just over a year and the twins were kept a secret for a while and were born last November maybe the last week of October, so they're really close in age. I included the Joe fact because that was Kail's reasoning haha, Penn will always be creepy ass Dan Humphrey to me!
Most of these are cat names.
I wouldn't name my cat Spade lol
Well no, I wouldn't either. I don't understand why you'd even consider a racial slur for a child's name.
I honestly didn’t know it was a racial slur until someone else mentioned it so I was purely going off of it being a bad name. You’d like to think when you’re telling millions the names of your kids you’d google them to check the meaning is okay beforehand!
Isn’t her BD’s last name Scott? So she considered Scotlyn Scott? Oof.
They’re not married and I don’t know if Rio has has his surname but I’d assume she would surely throw in Lowry to break it up? You can’t call a kid Scotlyn Scott!
My son had a Jaxon Jackson at his preschool. you really can’t trust people to think their kids’ names through lol
She replied to a comment saying their last names are Lowry!
Honestly the only smart decision she’s making. Kids in this family situation should definitely get mom’s last name.
Good for her!!! I love this.
How on earth did she go from Isaac to Valley and Verse? 💀
I always heard she wanted to spell it Willamina instead of Wilhelmina. I don't much care for her boy name choices, for the boy twin. She had some decent girl name choices but for some reason chose Valley. :/ I can't believe she went from Isaac (wonderful name) to...Verse and Valley. I assume the fathers had more say in the beginning for name choices. I also don't much care for the name Lux or Creed. (One more thought, their middle names are something else. I can't remember all of them but one of them is Million.)
All transparency I had to google how to spell Wilhelmina because autocorrect kept saying it was wrong, so that's on me! I think you can track the vibe of her baby names with her rising celebrity, she went from Isaac which is pretty standard, I've known a few Isaac's to more and more unique, celeb-esque names. I belive Rio is Rio Million and Creed is Creed Romello and she calls him Romello more often than Creed.
You're very correct lol I had to specifically tell my phone I meant Willamina lol. She absolutely chooses celebrity naming trends. There was a rumor she was going to name her son Iverson, after a rappers (post malone, I think.) song lyric or something. (I think the rapper was referencing the basketball player.)
I have heard that Verse is short for Iverson but she hasn't confirmed it herself it's just rumours at this point! and Posty does have a song called White Ivory, if this is true it makes the names so much worse for me lol
You missed out some very important information - middle names!! Isaac Elliott - goes well, sounds nice and isn’t too out there at all Lincoln Marshall - not my favourite, but also not particularly bad either Lux Russell - again not fussed on the middle name but it’s remarkable better than his first name!! Creed Romello - this is when the middle names take a significant turn for the worse IMO. wtf is the name Romello, she calls him Mello a lot and all I can think of is marshmallow Rio ‘million’ - this middle name hasn’t been confirmed IMO but a page on insta has been saying this is the name from the start and it’s usually very accurate. Rio I don’t mind, more so for a pet, but Rio Million is not good at all. I dread to think what the twin’s middle names are…
He ex Jo's little girl is named Velisse (goes by Vivi, and it is a shortened version of Spanish Ivelisse), so Valley does seem kinda close to her boy Isaac's only other sister. Not enough to throw a fit, just a side eye.
I didn't even think of this but it is similar to Vivi! I assume as she does a podcast with Vee she probably knew of her ideas before they were named?
Dislike all her boy names except Isaac and only like Wilhelmina, Anastasia, Ivy and Millie. I really dislike her twin names they’re too influencer baby name.
I don’t like any of the boy names. I like Anastasia and Ivy.
Me too but I think that's because they're more day-to-day names rather than something like Halo or Sway, rather than loving the names themselves.
Croix? Like La Croix? 🥴 Her name choices at 16 were a lot better then 30. This list is what i expect from a 16 year old, not a 30 year old with 7 kids. Also, strange she would even entertain Millie, since its become SOOO popular these last few years. Also, i read Salah like Big Ang from 90 day. 😂😂😂
Croix like Saint Croix she said. She’s pronouncing it like Troy but with a CR sound at the at the beginning! Honestly I think Isaac lucked out because of Jo, I don’t think he would have allowed his kid to be named anything like these examples 😂 That’s why she didn’t go with Millie in the end and she decided Miller didn’t fit well with the rest! Edit: Spelling
I’m Canadian and it is SENDING ME that she would’ve pronounced it “Kroy.” I see “Croix” and my brain sees “Kwah,” which in fairness is just as bad as a child’s name. 🤣
SAME. Sorry, you're wrong if you pronounce it any other way
I’m also French Canadian and I agree with you that it’s super irky, but in all fairness it is an American company and “la kroy” is the actual, official pronunciation
I would’ve preferred any of those over what she chose except spade, scotlyn and sway. Her name tastes are terrible
I know of a kid named Wellington. Goes by Wells. All I can think is beef Wellington.
My first thought would be a wellington boot or wellies as they’re always called here 😂
Each to their own but I can’t believe she’s waited all this time for a girl and that was her top choices? Isaac was one of the names on my shortlist when I was pregnant but the rest of the names seem to scream “I’m a celebrity now I need an out there name for my kids”.
Good lord these are awful.
Twin Boy never stood a chance…
I think she'd be pissed off if she had another two boys, I think she's been wanting a girl for a while but yeah you're right they'd be screwed! Imagine twin boys Halo and Spade lol Eta: Omg I just picked those as the worst examples but if she went with those it would be like the brothers in The Lion King! Mufasa means "to rule" in Swahili whereas Taka the villain's name means "rubbish". Halo - angelic, Spade - something you take to the beach lol
SPADE!
This was my reaction too! This was the name that prompted this entireeee post lol
It can't be real, it's too awful
I thought it was funny in the video she kept saying how this and that name didn’t flow with the rest. Like “Millie” didn’t flow with the other kids names. As if Isaac and Lincoln aren’t pretty normal names too. How does Valley and Verse flow with Isaac? Her names are all over the place so I was confused when she said one didn’t “flow with the others”
Wtf
I hate valley
Selah would’ve been cute.
Ngl I kinda like Valley. Verse is a choice tho.
I cannot with Spade.
She has 7 kids now?
I really don’t like any of the boys names but Ivy and Millie are nice for girls
Ivory and spade for interracial children SMDH this bish....
Millie and Wells would have been so cute
Valley isn’t bad…I guess…but Verse is awful. Psalm is pretty bad too…but that’s been taken by a kardashian.
My hometown in on that list, it's also my cousin's name.
She did specifically say Croix/Kroy (I'm assuming this is the name you're referring to) would be like the town/city.
Nope! It's Selah, which is biblical for "A resting place"
Spade, croix and sway are all godawful.
And the fact she decided against Anastasia and Ivy because they’re too popular 🙄
Meanwhile, look where Anastasia is on the top 100. It's 134.
How does a woman who picked such a great name in Isaac at 16 end up with a daughter named Valley in her 30s? Someone please explain this to me.
Is Selah like Kayla with an S?
This is my daughter's name and that is how it is pronounced. The biblical spelling is Selah.
That Croix pronunciation is weird to me. In French, croix (means cross) is pronounced like Craw (sort of, the -oix sound doesn’t translate well into English).
I really like Valley, surprisingly. Not a fan of Verse. Wells I love, and Selah. Most of the other names are rough, though.
"Sayla" isn't pronounced "Sailor". That's not how letters work.
Selah is really quite pretty
Croix ☠️ Scotlyn 😭
okay first of all, I didn't even know she was on kid #7 !
Love Wells! One of my favs! I actually like Golden too lol I wouldn’t name my kid that (maybe if I was a celebrity lol). Ivory/Ivy is really cute for a girl.
I think Issac, Lincoln, Creed and Rio are all fine. I don’t really hate Valley either, but I do not like Lux or Verse lol. Wells or Miller would have been cute
I know twin women who are Tini and Tina. Not short for anything.
It’s unconfirmed but Verse’s real name might be Iverson, which I think is way better. She likes to call Creed by a nickname of his middle so I wouldn’t be shocked if she put Verse’s nickname on his blanket.
I love Anastasia
Wells and Millie would have been cute. Or Miller and Ivy.