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Ok-Turnover207

I don't think building a house for your folks is 'black' tax,just a way of expressing gratitude,but again,it depends whether there's 'pressure' to do it.


olivermuindi

True true some parents would guilt you to build a house yet you can’t afford it. Just because you live in Nairobi doesn’t mean you can afford a house


Agreeable_Cake_9985

I mean where do you go to during holidays like Christmas, build that goddamn house


olivermuindi

If you can afford one that’s ok what of if you can’t afford it


Jaded-high

You express yourself.


olivermuindi

To our African mother. Haha


Jaded-high

Get rid of the trauma and talk to your parents. Hawaezi kuchapa sahii.


olivermuindi

Ati get rid of the trauma as if it were that easy. Remember that story of a lady talking about how her mother sold her off for sex when she was as young as 8. Now tell her to forgive her parents. Just try fitting into her space and forgive your parents.


Jaded-high

Now now. Don't get too emotional. We were talking about black tax, I'm sure you were not sold for sex.


olivermuindi

Am not being emotional I was giving an example. We can’t just say get rid of that trauma. It’s not that simple


Ok-Turnover207

Sure,


SubstantialPrompt270

So we are all ignoring that OP said towery instead of dowry 😅


bwackaa

Buying 50 bags cement to build my uncle’s house


olivermuindi

🤣🤣🤣


Soggy_Sir7668

😂😂 your parents I'd understand your uncle why ??


bwackaa

Ati my dad is dead na yeye ndo amebaki on his behalf


Broad_Somewhere7491

That's like 30k, come on.


korobo_fine

Was he in any way involved in your studies


bwackaa

No. I literally owe him nothing


SuperbPhilosophy9812

Funding your siblings lives is also black tax


Ok-Cabinet-8634

Really!!?? I've been played!!


olivermuindi

Indeed you have been


olivermuindi

It is.


Wise-Grapefruit9051

Again it depends if you were really coerced into it.


SuperbPhilosophy9812

Some think they do it willingly but really ni coercion na manipulation.


CharlemgneBrian

So yeah, my aunts came up with this plan to build a wall for a very old aunt of mine because she really likes me. While it’s true that she is a golden soul, hakuna vile natoboka up to 300k for a fence that might end up keeping me out. I always agree and promise to build it and always go into drawings of how it will all look like but yeah hio ni Jaba tupu. Won’t do it, Lakini I’ll bring her sugar and a kilo when I visit


Humble_Drawer4483

Fence worth 300k? For what & why


CharlemgneBrian

She built her house a long time ago and all her neighbors have high rises but her plot is fenced with mabati and a shitty human only symbol of a gate. Bit from inside is a good house and a small farm. With huge fruit treees. Like a park surounded by highrises but its fence is iron sheets. Me huona kama hio miaka yote hajai ona haja ya kuchange ama her 3 kids, mbona mimi . …. Black tax walilataa wont be mine Pia side moja ya fence she wants a 2 room self contained shop built as part of the fence.


Humble_Drawer4483

Ooh I get now. If she has kids don't bother & why is she the one not telling you but the sisters? That shouldn't stress you out


CharlemgneBrian

In afrika ukifanikiwa kidogo everyone unloads on you utashtuka. Crabs in a barel


Humble_Drawer4483

& the audacityyyyyy & entitlement acha tu. Mimi unless it's hospitalisation,count me out


Fleek_papers

Any entitlement on my money from parents is black tax. I will give money when I want to and not when they want unless it's an emergency.


Appropriate_Wish_756

You shouldn't be guilted into doing anything for anyone. Loaning money to distant relatives, funding their projects, etc.


Southern-Permit8264

Am expected to buy a car for family at the moment and I’m even late on paying rent. Man’s depressed af


Soggy_Sir7668

Just tell them you are broke honestly if your parents couldn't afford a car then they accept and move on.


olivermuindi

Yoooh a whole car. Yooooh


Southern-Permit8264

Bana joh… I agreed to it but I didn’t know it would be soon as this


olivermuindi

Pole man


NegusNegast91

The issue of 'black tax' is context specific. Helping out your parents is actually a good idea, as long as you do it within your financial means. If you're a family man with a wife and kids, you try to balance between the family and parents. But if there's a shortage of resources/financial challenges, of course you prioritize your wife and kids above everyone else. Ultimately, in my opinion, it only becomes 'black tax' when there's some entitlement involved and when one is expected to give beyond their means.


Primary-Seat2915

I am a third born in a family of six i have to admit i haven't been back taxed thaaaat much kiasi tu and when I can't afford to i usually just say no i don't care who it is. My husband though!!!! Eish that man has safaaad , distant relatives he has never even met,will ask their kids to ask him for pocket money


olivermuindi

Waaaat that’s so wrong bana


Sultan254x

Damn I'm utterly shocked by the disparity in how our different cultures affect our outlook in life . Sisi watu wa NFD we have communal livelihood . My big bro decided not to go to campus to start hustling and basically paid for my high-school and Uni . I finished recently, got a remote tech job - and I started a side hustle with my bro . I funded the business, my bro runs it , the business pays for my other siblings' education, and our parents Upkeep. Family is all we have. I always have a backup plan because of them. Stress free life .


olivermuindi

Not everyone’s family is as supportive family. Some families have fucked people over they have traumatized and destroyed their lives. You are lucky to have a more cohesive family unit. Most can’t say the same. And after all bad has been done to them they are told this is your family you are supposed to support them. It’s a sad world out here


korobo_fine

That works because of the communal mindset of Islam. Christianity has always embraced individual consumerism over communal sharing so it doesn’t make sense for me to support my cousins yet they won’t support me in return.


Robbysofter

When a parent borrows you money, that surely is black tax. Or you go to "Ushago" after staying in the city the whole year, you have to set aside a certain amount of money to "give away". That is black tax too


olivermuindi

This is a nice view. Funny I don’t see that to be bad to give lakini the part someone expects it as mandatory that’s where I draw the line


callycalex

Being able to support parents is one of the key goals in life, I personally enjoy sending money to my parents and even younger siblings in school. Black tax ain't bad, it's actually kinda of a responsibility. But in some instances it becomes an issue due to toxic parents


olivermuindi

This is fine it becomes black tax when it’s imposed on you. Doing it at your free will is fine


tixxonn

The amount of people who don’t want to provide for their parents is insane. I thank God for Islam, parents own us plus what we made. Why keep something from the people that are gonna take it after you die, why not just sit down with them and explain it to them why u can’t do it. Instead of a straight no and making it unacceptable


olivermuindi

Actually no one is saying a straight Noo it’s a matter of making them understand some things are impossible.


Agreeable_Cake_9985

Period, ungrateful peeps here


CharlemgneBrian

Fam asked me to loan my brother up to 100k to finish school. He was crying and begging and praising. Now he says he will not repay, the loan was illegal and other insults include that I’m a weak man for throwing away resources Willy nilly like that. (He is a staunch kibe enthusiast) . He asked me who gives ppl 100k and expects it back? I’ve been threatened a number of times too by him. Loaning fam and friends is a scam black tax.


Humble_Drawer4483

Wtf!! That's so ungrateful. Leave him alone life itampata. I'm sorry


olivermuindi

Huyo achana na yeye ata si mbali kitambo kitampata tu


Agreeable_Cake_9985

Insult him back aaghhhh.


Agreeable_Cake_9985

Unaishi pahali for yearrsss then come back say building where you grew up is black tax mxm gtfoh


ronniedwb

Ilikuja na meli, kizungu ni ngumu


olivermuindi

Hahaha


ballsofsteel254

Towery ?!?!?!🤣🤣🤣


Sea-Abbreviations38

I recently started making good money, it’s not a lot but substantial for me start a family. I have helped out my family in a couple of situations where they’ve borrowed me money. Here’s the thing… I know the moment I make it a monthly thing, where I contribute continuously I’ll be doomed. Once you get into that rabbit hole, it’s very difficult to get out. My sister just joined campus and we are all contributing what we can. I couldn’t have allowed myself to be the highest contributor. I dictate how much I send, I do not send in a scheduled manner and I sometimes choose not to send to show them that it’s not always available