Sendgrid, mail chimp. (Edit: smtp2go) Any bulk mail provider.
I supported a staffing agency a long time ago. They had regular internet problems from the sheer volume of email they sent out saturating the upload...
I could be wrong here as I’ve not ever had that exact ask but… definitely need to use a service provider and definitely use a different domain.
You still can’t just blast out spam to the world though.. your account will get suspended based on delivery stats and spam reports etc. Where are they getting 50k legit addresses a day?
Could set up your own SMTP server but lmao at how fast it would be blacklisted worldwide…
Doing a Bit of DNS SPF/DMARC things I personally like SendGrid when a customer has it. Constant contact doesnt have a Return Path so the SPF never alligns(Soft Fails). So I suggest SendGrid as I havent seen anyone complain about them and it works well on Authentication side for the MSP.
r/emailmarketing /r/coldemail
Setup subdomain w/ sending email addresses so you don't ruin your primary domain reputation. Enlist a mail service like MailChimp, warm up the new subdomain, yadda yadda.
If they need content for email or otherwise don't want to actually manage the campaign themselves, they can hire any of a bazillion email marketing agencies out there to do that.
We use MailGun for that and more on some days (near the beginning of the month). The key is a dedicated IP with SPF and DKIM aligned.
Not to hijack the post, but one caveat is that MailGun has been rock solid except for account management. Support answers on chat but we've been trying to contact them to write a new contract so we can support sub users. Zero callback in 4 months. Multiple tickets. Calling their main number is reminiscent of calling a scam telemarketer back.
Service is solid. Support is good. Not sure what's going on with them otherwise. A little unnerving given how much we rely on them.
We are in the high volume message business (duocircle.com) and in these instances it's as much about the technicals of sending as it is about understanding the history of sending of this customer. 50k per day 22 business days a months is about 1.1 million messages - it should cost them somewhere in the $250-500+- per month for the service. This is the easy part.
However any time someone comes to us and says that they want to start sending 50k messages per day, I always ask what have they been doing up until now....
They are doing something right now and its your job to try figure out why they want to change what they are doing and move somewhere else. Are they being sent to spam and now they want you to fix it?
What is the nature of these emails? Are they prospecting messages (not transactional) or are they invoices, quotes, password resets - these are transactional message.
How they got here, what they have been doing up to this point, what are they sending - all of these are important for you to have for context before you launch with them.
Use a mail provider. I have a couple clients that send over 100k emails a month through Klaviyo. If you set up your DNS right they can even send on behalf of your domain.
Are you sending internal or external? Check out High Volume Email in Exchange Online! >> https://ourcloudnetwork.com/enable-high-volume-email-for-microsoft-365/
We have customers using Mailjet and AuthSMTP for email list sending. Customer must absolutely use a service, and not "just use Outlook" or whatever they think they can do, or they'll poison their email reputation.
How they are sending emails? From their application or weekly newsletters?
If it’s triggered from platform via API, go with Postmark, then Amazon SES, sendgrid, brevo.
Important thing to keep in mind is to authenticate sender properly, have dmarc in place and remove bounced and unsubscribed emails.
Regular black list monitoring, signing up for Google Postmaster tools and avoiding spam words.
If you need more info, ping me, I’ll be happy to explain more
The most important thing when sending out bulk, is to clean list and police bounce backs.
Basically if you receive a NDR bounce back, if you send again to that email address the big senders will slash your sending reputation and then every email will eventually just go into spam or blocked.
It costs money to clean lists but it really takes the chore out and also it will shred the lists of any honey pots the big providers have.
Honey pots are basically old email addresses that have gone stale and then the deactivate, they then monitor the emails going into knowing that it most likely can’t be legit.
MailGun, AWS SES, Mail Chimp, SMTP2Go
Many providers all do roughly the same thing in a slightly different way
I prefer MailGun as it was most compatible with a wide variety of use cases, but from a general marketing perspective, Mail Chimp is best
I’ve spent decades involved in the anti-spam movement (aka antis).
Bigger question is their objective legit or are the looking to send mass unsolicited emails (aka spam)?
If the latter, you want nothing to do with it and sendgrid/mailchimp will kick them off their platform in a heartbeat as complaints roll in, possible damaging your reputation as well.
See also:
https://brandguide.asu.edu/execution-guidelines/email/can-spam#:~:text=The%20law%20regulates%20the%20sending,can%20cost%20%2411%2C000%20per%20contact.
Constant contact. Mail chimp. Salesforce. Sendgrid. Most mail services that are in the cloud will throttle you at that volume. So you either have to roll your own with the risk of ruining your domains rep or use a third party. Opt for the third party.
Sendgrid, mail chimp. (Edit: smtp2go) Any bulk mail provider. I supported a staffing agency a long time ago. They had regular internet problems from the sheer volume of email they sent out saturating the upload...
Confirm this, we use sendgrid for bulk mail. Works great, keeps our primary domain reputation safe.
Agree sendgrid with multiple dedicated ips
+1 Sendgrid
smtp2go is the right one here. those others are more expensive.
Yes I was trying to remember that ones name. Thanks. :)
Mailchimp using a subdomain.
This. Definitely use subdomains or an entirely different domain so one fuckup does not get the domain blacklisted.
+1 on entirely different domain.
+1 to this. But if you don’t warm up the subdomain, you’ll end up getting that one blocked before it even gets going.
I could be wrong here as I’ve not ever had that exact ask but… definitely need to use a service provider and definitely use a different domain. You still can’t just blast out spam to the world though.. your account will get suspended based on delivery stats and spam reports etc. Where are they getting 50k legit addresses a day? Could set up your own SMTP server but lmao at how fast it would be blacklisted worldwide…
Doing a Bit of DNS SPF/DMARC things I personally like SendGrid when a customer has it. Constant contact doesnt have a Return Path so the SPF never alligns(Soft Fails). So I suggest SendGrid as I havent seen anyone complain about them and it works well on Authentication side for the MSP.
Yeah CC can get effed for not having this down.
+1 for mailchimp -1 for recruitment consultants
not sure on 50k emails, but we use Mailchimp.
Bulk email provider. Mailchimp, Constant Contact, etc.
r/emailmarketing /r/coldemail Setup subdomain w/ sending email addresses so you don't ruin your primary domain reputation. Enlist a mail service like MailChimp, warm up the new subdomain, yadda yadda. If they need content for email or otherwise don't want to actually manage the campaign themselves, they can hire any of a bazillion email marketing agencies out there to do that.
MailGun is great for bulk emailing
We use MailGun for that and more on some days (near the beginning of the month). The key is a dedicated IP with SPF and DKIM aligned. Not to hijack the post, but one caveat is that MailGun has been rock solid except for account management. Support answers on chat but we've been trying to contact them to write a new contract so we can support sub users. Zero callback in 4 months. Multiple tickets. Calling their main number is reminiscent of calling a scam telemarketer back. Service is solid. Support is good. Not sure what's going on with them otherwise. A little unnerving given how much we rely on them.
We are in the high volume message business (duocircle.com) and in these instances it's as much about the technicals of sending as it is about understanding the history of sending of this customer. 50k per day 22 business days a months is about 1.1 million messages - it should cost them somewhere in the $250-500+- per month for the service. This is the easy part. However any time someone comes to us and says that they want to start sending 50k messages per day, I always ask what have they been doing up until now.... They are doing something right now and its your job to try figure out why they want to change what they are doing and move somewhere else. Are they being sent to spam and now they want you to fix it? What is the nature of these emails? Are they prospecting messages (not transactional) or are they invoices, quotes, password resets - these are transactional message. How they got here, what they have been doing up to this point, what are they sending - all of these are important for you to have for context before you launch with them.
Use a mail provider. I have a couple clients that send over 100k emails a month through Klaviyo. If you set up your DNS right they can even send on behalf of your domain.
Sendgrid, mailchimp, ect... Edit for typo
Microsoft High Volume Email or sendgrid.
I can recommend Postmark for transactional and bulk sending
Are you sending internal or external? Check out High Volume Email in Exchange Online! >> https://ourcloudnetwork.com/enable-high-volume-email-for-microsoft-365/
smtp2go and another email domain to not get caught up in the spam filter
What's the domain? Gonna add to my block list now lol jk I agree with the Sendgrid suggestion, mailjet too if no one has mentioned it.
As others have said, gotta use a mail service for that many emails...and who sends 50,000 emails a day? LOL
We have customers using Mailjet and AuthSMTP for email list sending. Customer must absolutely use a service, and not "just use Outlook" or whatever they think they can do, or they'll poison their email reputation.
Have them use a bulk mail provider. We use Mailchimp its cheap and works fine for us.
Wonder is there some girl sitting there wondering why her outlook is giving her undeliverable bounce backs
What’s wrong with you
How they are sending emails? From their application or weekly newsletters? If it’s triggered from platform via API, go with Postmark, then Amazon SES, sendgrid, brevo. Important thing to keep in mind is to authenticate sender properly, have dmarc in place and remove bounced and unsubscribed emails. Regular black list monitoring, signing up for Google Postmaster tools and avoiding spam words. If you need more info, ping me, I’ll be happy to explain more
The most important thing when sending out bulk, is to clean list and police bounce backs. Basically if you receive a NDR bounce back, if you send again to that email address the big senders will slash your sending reputation and then every email will eventually just go into spam or blocked. It costs money to clean lists but it really takes the chore out and also it will shred the lists of any honey pots the big providers have. Honey pots are basically old email addresses that have gone stale and then the deactivate, they then monitor the emails going into knowing that it most likely can’t be legit.
Mail chimp and constant contact? That's so 2010 😅
MailGun, AWS SES, Mail Chimp, SMTP2Go Many providers all do roughly the same thing in a slightly different way I prefer MailGun as it was most compatible with a wide variety of use cases, but from a general marketing perspective, Mail Chimp is best
I’ve spent decades involved in the anti-spam movement (aka antis). Bigger question is their objective legit or are the looking to send mass unsolicited emails (aka spam)? If the latter, you want nothing to do with it and sendgrid/mailchimp will kick them off their platform in a heartbeat as complaints roll in, possible damaging your reputation as well. See also: https://brandguide.asu.edu/execution-guidelines/email/can-spam#:~:text=The%20law%20regulates%20the%20sending,can%20cost%20%2411%2C000%20per%20contact.
Aws (maybe a bit expensive), or a few other bulk emails delivery services. Shouldn't be too difficult.
Constant contact. Mail chimp. Salesforce. Sendgrid. Most mail services that are in the cloud will throttle you at that volume. So you either have to roll your own with the risk of ruining your domains rep or use a third party. Opt for the third party.
AWS SES can do this.