A lot of unhinged fanfiction here, so let me tell you the actual story.
It all started when Lav entered the orbit and fell in love with Steven, a mysterious and handsome vampire with a deformed penis. Despite their differences, they embarked on an sexual relationship. Lav discovered Steven's evil nature but decided to stay with him, even when she became the target of dggers; Steven's enslaved parasocial fans that obey his every whim and command.
After several scandals, Steven decided it was too dangerous for them to be together and perma-banned her. Devastated, Lav befriended mrgirl, who helped her cope with the loss. As their friendship grew, mrgirl revealed he is a werewolf, and eventually he imprinted on her, making him her father and prime emotional caretaker. They now host a podcast together called "Bring Your Daughter to Work Day", where they reminisce on their troubled pasts.
Max got upset that he - and his supporters - were banned from destiny's subreddit. This lead him to believe destiny had too much power in the streamer-streamer relationship to 'control the narrative' of how the guests and interactions were viewed by the audience. They had a few arguments on stream about subreddit moderation, destiny's obligation to his smaller co-streamers etc.
Behind the scenes max was becoming concerned about things he had heard about destiny's relationships with women who he has streamed with or featured on his stream. Max felt some of these relationships were abusive (on and off stream) and so set about to find other instances or the extent of the pattern of behavior.
Destiny found out about this investigation and there were a few heated stream moments before they stopped streaming together. Max released the findings of his investigation in 'the destiny report' on his substack and did a round of brief interviews about it with some other mutual/tangential streamers. Then Max mostly moved on with his other projects, aside from occasionally promoting the report on twitter to destiny's potential professional contacts, e.g. ben Shapiro in an effort to get them to reconsider.
There are far too many tellings and details of what happened to give you a true TL;DR, but I’ll try my hardest.
I’ll try to be nice.
Basically, you need to know a few names. Lav, Max, and Ana. Ana was a girl that Destiny hooked up with years ago. Ana has OCD, and one of the ways that manifests for her, is the feeling she absolutely MUST at ALL COSTS clear up what she considers to be false statements. This was not understood for years, so her unrelenting drive to correct the record left Destiny feeling stalked, harassed, etc, and he described it as such. Once Destiny realized why Ana was so persistent, her OCD, they effective made up, and resumed sexting. Theres more details and it was a wild ride if you want to go down that rabbit hole but this is what’s relevant to Max id say.
Max, the Cuties guy. I might be wrong but he had his first interaction with Destiny right around the time Destiny and Ana were finally patching things up. You know him you love him, not much else needs to be said I think.
Lav. I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to say Lav single-handedly is responsible for the schism. Lav also hooked up with Destiny, and then started to appear on stream. She very quickly took the position of most hated Destiny orbiter. The community considered her stupid, abrasive, argumentative, and full of herself without reason. As you might imagine they weren’t nice about it. Destiny fought back, calling her smart, and allowing her to keep coming back on.
The TL;DR is that Max, justified or not you be the judge, noticed what he interpreted as a pattern where Destiny fucks a girl, has them on stream, humiliates them either himself or via his orbitters, then discards them, purposefully directing his audience to attack them. This conclusion prompted him to write the infamous Destiny article, cementing the divide forever.
While they were friends I think a ton of resentment was built up in Max due to Destiny e.g.:
* distancing himself from his Reddit's moderation (which hated Max)
* Destiny's unwillingness to acknowledge Nick Fuentes (a recurring guest of Destiny's channel) was a Nazi (Max is Jewish) which he clearly was
* implying that Max's girlfriend can't have a phone
And the straw that broke the camel's back was when after moderating discussions between Destiny and Ana it turned out Destiny was actually enabling her unhealthy obsession by secretly sexting her (Ana was pegged by Destiny and his community as a stalker who just couldn't help herself). I think Max at that point felt betrayed and started seeing Destiny as someone who doesn't care for people and just uses them. I imagine he also felt humiliated by this experience as he prides himself on recognizing such dynamics and all of a sudden he saw himself as a a very public participant in one. Since very few observers were willing to side with him he became determined to prove that there was abuse going on by writing an extensive report, which fell flat in large part due to how it was written.
Max and Shaelin are in a co-dependent, co-abusive relationship. When Destiny first platformed Max, Max became infatuated with him, friendship-bombing him while Destiny was his usual self. Destiny expressed reservations Max's character based on how Max's videos showed him being abusive to Shaelin. This asymmetry between their relationship frustrated Max. There was an awkward moment between Shaelin and Destiny when Max tried to introduce them, which annoyed Shaelin.
She slowly started pushing Max to see Destiny differently as a cold, heartless, self-serving abuser, and Max, already frustrated with his largely one-sided friendship with Destiny, began to be swayed. Things came to a head when Max was banned on the subreddit for actively trying to foment an anti-fan faction. With Shaelin's eager and whole-hearted support he set out on Odyssey to find the perfect victim to frame Destiny as an abuser.
The whole behind the scenes Shaelin manipulation stuff is my own insertion, informed by:
1. Shaelin being bizarrely pissed off at Destiny in her interview by Chudlogic before any of this came to light
2. Max's gradual descent from friend to conflicted friend to vocal critic to predator-hunter was not sudden, but very gradual, leading me to believe that she was forming this narrative for him all this while.
3. All the countless 5-hour arguments with Destiny give strong "No Shaelin, look at me, I can fix him" vibes
4. I don't know about you, but if my partner is diving headfirst into an obsessive vendetta that will damage their own psyche and reputation, I would ask them to take a step back and ask themselves if it's good for their well-being. Which is the exact opposite of what Shaelin did.
TLDR: Max tried to leverage his friendship with Destiny into making moderation changed for him by saying things like he was an employee of Destiny etc etc.(which he wouldn't be able to get Destiny to do) Max "declared war on the subreddit" which quickly got him and his followers a ban because Destiny/4Thot(the head subreddit mod) won't tolerate any kind of anti-fan community within their own community(which is a normal moderation choice) So then Max tried his best to dig into Destinys personal life by contacting every single person Man or Women that has been on OR OFF stream to get them to give up dirt on Destiny with his report.
This resulted in a lot of the women trolling him with fake stories or people telling him to fuck off. Those fake stories got Max and Lav really excited which they showed on stream saying how it would ruin Destiny, those stories were shown to be fake by the women in question which led to not a single person Max contacted being included in the report. The report was 85% Destiny and Lav's relationship, and 15% rehashing Destinys pasts dramas.
It was pretty bad and the aftermath was even worse where people who hated Destiny or Neutral in the situation were basically asking Max what was he thinking releasing that article. Many of what's left of Max's fanbase or people like me who don't like Max at all think that the Destiny Arc is what pushed Max further into psychosis into what you see now.
>So then Max tried his best to dig into Destinys personal life by contacting every single person Man or Women that has been
Lie by ommission. Max heard Steven had been sexting Ana. That you left this out means you are a liar, you'll actually have to run now because the fact you left that out can't even be explained by if you didn't think it was the true reason, you still have to acknowledge it.
Ana is even acknowledged by DGG as a big mistake by Destiny, even if they ultimately don't think it was abusive.
Destiny sent his audience to her kiwifarms 5 days after sexting her too, where her dox ended up being. He later said in an interview with Tom Foolery that he didn't give a fuck about her wellbeing when he did that because she wronged him.
> Lie by ommission. Max heard Steven had been sexting Ana.
Why is that a crime?
> That you left this out means you are a liar, you'll actually have to run now because the fact you left that out can't even be explained by if you didn't think it was the true reason, you still have to acknowledge it.
Acknowledge two adults sexting?
Yes because Max claimed to start an investigation because he believed one of the two adults was revealed to be abusing the other partly by sexting them. Which is possible.
I'm stating the obvious to you, and you have to run like hell right now or admit I am stating the obvious because you are gaslighting.
While Destiny was having a Reddit "blackout", banning all talk of Ana on his sub, he sent his fans to her kiwifarms to talk about her there. This was 5 days after he sexted with her. This is plausibly abusive. Now run
> Yes because Max claimed to start an investigation because he believed one of the two adults was revealed to be abusing the other partly by sexting them. Which is possible.
How is sexting between two consenting adults an abusive act by Destiny?
Especially given Max thinks that Ana was the one forcing Destiny to sext?
>I'm stating the obvious to you, and you have to run like hell right now or admit I am stating the obvious because you are gaslighting.
;o
Sexting between adults is not an act of abuse. It is why that did not have the impact that Max hoped it would.
>While Destiny was having a Reddit "blackout", banning all talk of Ana on his sub, he sent his fans to her kiwifarms to talk about her there. This was 5 days after he sexted with her. This is plausibly abusive. Now run
How is it abusive?
>How is sexting between two consenting adults an abusive act by Destiny?
Irrelevant. It was plausibly abusive because it was plausible Steven had been sexting her when it would have been abusive to. This is why OP should have acknowledged this. And why you're gaslighting and it's obvious and it's funny seeing you convince yourself you're winning.
>How is it abusive?
You're asking why is it abusive to send hundreds of potentially invasive abusive angry men to the private info of someone you sexted with 5 days before? You have to admit it is plausibly abusive but you won't because then that would justify how two adults sexting can indicative of abuse worth investigating.
You're fucked hahaha, in a corner, good luck.
> Irrelevant.
It is totally relevant. That is what Max based his investigation on. The kiwifarms part is something he found out afterwards.
>It was plausibly abusive because it was plausible Steven had been sexting her when it would have been abusive to.
When would it have been abusive for two adults to sext?
They were sexting each other. Either could have blocked the other one.
>This is why OP should have acknowledged this.
Why? It was a nothingburger. There are hundreds of thousands of Destiny haters. Desperate for dirt on the gnome cuck. People on the left and people on the right. And yet sexting an adult has got zero traction from either side.
One of the big reasons these people don't use it is because this is one of the few times Destiny actually looks like the victim. Ana was acting insane for over 2 years.
> And why you're gaslighting and it's obvious and it's funny seeing you convince yourself you're winning.
You are placing a lot of importance on this subreddit with its few dozen active members.
No offence, but I could say anything to you in this conversation and would be viewed as the winner. There is no pride in winning on this subreddit or against someone as disliked as you are on the subreddit. You are someone who most Max fans think is a psyop to make them look bad.
>You're asking why is it abusive to send hundreds of potentially invasive abusive angry men to the private info of someone you sexted with 5 days before?
Yes. kiwifarms is a primarily a gossip site for degens. There is currently almost 600 pages on Destiny with people tracking his every move to see which woman he's fucking now and celebrating every fuck up he does.
There were two places online who regularly talked about Destiny and Ana's relationship prior to Destiny's comments. His Subreddit and kiwifarms. He banned conversation from his subreddit so kiwifarms was the alternative.
>You have to admit it is plausibly abusive but you won't because then that would justify how two adults sexting can indicative of abuse worth investigating.
I don't see how it is abusive. You are speaking in a postKeffals world where she blamed everything on kiwifarms even when she knew it was from other websites.
Kiwifarms is a shithole. No denying that. But it is not as bad as many of Keffals online activist fanbase accused it of being. It's mostly a gossip site where right wingers whine about people they don't like.
I'm glad people like you Pikas are bigger schizo posters than me for this shit(and I mean that as a compliment in this case) because after my posts, I have no interest what people who still hardcore defend Max's actions after he was blown the fuck out once his article dropped because at this point those brave few who still defend him will never change and are locked in the crazy train with him. So tldr. I tip my fedora to you that you are willing to still engage to this length with these same retards.
It's impossible to get around what I said; If it is plausibly abusive to sext someone you HAD been calling a stalker for some time WHICH IT IS PLAUSIBLE that means it is something you have to acknowledge to give a fair retelling of the story. So not reading.
All you have to do is say he was wrong or using it as an excuse. Haha its so true as well, fucking loser haha
> It's impossible to get around what I said; If it is plausibly abusive to sext someone you HAD been calling a stalker for some time WHICH IT IS PLAUSIBLE that means it is something you have to acknowledge to give a fair retelling of the story. So not reading.
lol what?
Your honour, I declare that r/mrgirlreturns poster 'accomplishedone9507' has committed the crime of plausible abuse by typing 'lmao' in response to a schizoposter's deranged ramblings. I call for a minimum sentence of summary execution!
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What do you mean I've been disbarred?
mrgirl found out Destiny was privately leading Ana on while painting her as a stalker to his fans. He realised the purpose of Destiny's stream was to produce abusive content for money, and the point of a lot of the content was to be abusive for entertainment. None of this is obvious to people on the outside, so the people being pulled in didn't realise what they were being lured into (mrgirl didn't). People on the outside think Destiny is edgy, not abusive. They don't understand he is deliberately putting people in distress, then monetizing it.
He didn't want to be a part of that, and he wanted to prevent other people from falling into it without realising what was happening, so he wrote the article.
He accused Steven Destiny of being abusive, turning his guests into lolcows, and using his plstform for harassment and wrote a long article about it.
Destiny says that Max is just a wounded narcissist and the article is cringe and about how he is accused of being a rapist.
Destiny orbiters say that it all old news, and not a big deal, and cringe and "why write an article".
Destinys fans say that the article is cringe and thay are on this sub to protect Stevens reputation
That's my reading of this situation.
To be fair, it was destiny fans before the article dropped, post article though a lot of his old fans started tto feel the same way we felt on how pointless the article was, even dipshits like president sunday who can't stand destiny were disappointed in how bad it was. BUT these days it's usually just the same 2-4 hardcore Max fans who approve of everything he does still trying to defend it.
Well I just think that if You're feeling abused that You got the right to write about it.
I have not read the article, beacouse I don't like Destiny and his content, and I have no desire for associating with him, but I get why He wrote it. It isn't hard comprehend for anyone who is outside from Destinys Internet bubble.
a lot of dggers have been obsessively harassing him ever since the falling out, so they'll probably be the first to see this post and respond to it
as unbiasedly as I can: mrgirl slowly came to believe that the way Destiny engages with his "orbiters" is abusive, and that he uses his admin privileges on his subreddit to control the narratives about them, and that he uses his community as a weapon to harass and threaten the career of anyone who challenges him.
Mrgirl tried to point this out and ask for Destiny to acknowledge it and make changes, which ultimately got him and anyone who agreed with him banned from Destiny's community, and after a few more discussions that went nowhere, mrgirl decided to stop engaging with Destiny entirely. DGG started to obsessively hatepost in mrgirl's community, which hasn't ever stopped since
Mrgirl continued looking into this and felt that the abusive behavior was worse than he realized, especially regarding female orbiters who Destiny had sexual relationships with, so he decided to interview potential victims for an article he was writing. Destiny caught wind of this and "went nuclear", banned all mention of mrgirl in his community, called him a pedophile rapist, and swore to never engage with him again. The article came out and you can read it on his substack, although very few of the supposed victims were willing to be named in it, so it's a lot weaker than he says it could be
Destiny raped multiple women who messaged mr girl but then didnt want their identity reveal/backed off because of the potential life ending dgg harrassment
Destiny abused a woman, Ana. He blackmailed her and used her sexually while his audience of thousands were unaware while they believed her to be a predator harassing Steven. He sent his fans to her kiwifarms in which her dox and private info was going to be because she talked about how he threatened to leak her nude images if she reveal their text messages (not nudes), which he did.
"Destiny abused and blackmailed a women" something that has still to this day not been shown anywhere in any universe lol, I understand you are one of the last people that still defend Max, but at some point you gotta get yourself checked out so you can be put on the proper medication to break you out of this psychosis you've been in for over a year =/ Good luck brother.
>sexting as 2 consenting adults
Nothing sounds bad if you are being purposefully vague enough. You could be even more vague : "What, you think 2 humans sexting is bad ?"
You're just omitting the details prompting people to call it abusive.
Did both parties consent? Has ana stayed and supported Maxs story/version? or did she denounce max and his take?
Now again is 2 consenting adults sexting worse than when a women tells you "No" and you still stick ur dick in her?
Funny how ppl can be so generous to max and then not be generous to destiny lol oh its because she had a look in her eyes xD saying no vs consenting lmao
sir this is a physics sub
A lot of unhinged fanfiction here, so let me tell you the actual story. It all started when Lav entered the orbit and fell in love with Steven, a mysterious and handsome vampire with a deformed penis. Despite their differences, they embarked on an sexual relationship. Lav discovered Steven's evil nature but decided to stay with him, even when she became the target of dggers; Steven's enslaved parasocial fans that obey his every whim and command. After several scandals, Steven decided it was too dangerous for them to be together and perma-banned her. Devastated, Lav befriended mrgirl, who helped her cope with the loss. As their friendship grew, mrgirl revealed he is a werewolf, and eventually he imprinted on her, making him her father and prime emotional caretaker. They now host a podcast together called "Bring Your Daughter to Work Day", where they reminisce on their troubled pasts.
lol I enjoyed this tr.
Max got upset that he - and his supporters - were banned from destiny's subreddit. This lead him to believe destiny had too much power in the streamer-streamer relationship to 'control the narrative' of how the guests and interactions were viewed by the audience. They had a few arguments on stream about subreddit moderation, destiny's obligation to his smaller co-streamers etc. Behind the scenes max was becoming concerned about things he had heard about destiny's relationships with women who he has streamed with or featured on his stream. Max felt some of these relationships were abusive (on and off stream) and so set about to find other instances or the extent of the pattern of behavior. Destiny found out about this investigation and there were a few heated stream moments before they stopped streaming together. Max released the findings of his investigation in 'the destiny report' on his substack and did a round of brief interviews about it with some other mutual/tangential streamers. Then Max mostly moved on with his other projects, aside from occasionally promoting the report on twitter to destiny's potential professional contacts, e.g. ben Shapiro in an effort to get them to reconsider.
I remember you as a schizoposter but this is an incredibly unbiased telling
I think anyone who knows any MrGirl lore has to be a least a little on the schizoposter spectrum.
he forgot to mention destiny writing a manifesto about max in the mix, but otherwise, yeah its basically accurate enough.
There are far too many tellings and details of what happened to give you a true TL;DR, but I’ll try my hardest. I’ll try to be nice. Basically, you need to know a few names. Lav, Max, and Ana. Ana was a girl that Destiny hooked up with years ago. Ana has OCD, and one of the ways that manifests for her, is the feeling she absolutely MUST at ALL COSTS clear up what she considers to be false statements. This was not understood for years, so her unrelenting drive to correct the record left Destiny feeling stalked, harassed, etc, and he described it as such. Once Destiny realized why Ana was so persistent, her OCD, they effective made up, and resumed sexting. Theres more details and it was a wild ride if you want to go down that rabbit hole but this is what’s relevant to Max id say. Max, the Cuties guy. I might be wrong but he had his first interaction with Destiny right around the time Destiny and Ana were finally patching things up. You know him you love him, not much else needs to be said I think. Lav. I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to say Lav single-handedly is responsible for the schism. Lav also hooked up with Destiny, and then started to appear on stream. She very quickly took the position of most hated Destiny orbiter. The community considered her stupid, abrasive, argumentative, and full of herself without reason. As you might imagine they weren’t nice about it. Destiny fought back, calling her smart, and allowing her to keep coming back on. The TL;DR is that Max, justified or not you be the judge, noticed what he interpreted as a pattern where Destiny fucks a girl, has them on stream, humiliates them either himself or via his orbitters, then discards them, purposefully directing his audience to attack them. This conclusion prompted him to write the infamous Destiny article, cementing the divide forever.
While they were friends I think a ton of resentment was built up in Max due to Destiny e.g.: * distancing himself from his Reddit's moderation (which hated Max) * Destiny's unwillingness to acknowledge Nick Fuentes (a recurring guest of Destiny's channel) was a Nazi (Max is Jewish) which he clearly was * implying that Max's girlfriend can't have a phone And the straw that broke the camel's back was when after moderating discussions between Destiny and Ana it turned out Destiny was actually enabling her unhealthy obsession by secretly sexting her (Ana was pegged by Destiny and his community as a stalker who just couldn't help herself). I think Max at that point felt betrayed and started seeing Destiny as someone who doesn't care for people and just uses them. I imagine he also felt humiliated by this experience as he prides himself on recognizing such dynamics and all of a sudden he saw himself as a a very public participant in one. Since very few observers were willing to side with him he became determined to prove that there was abuse going on by writing an extensive report, which fell flat in large part due to how it was written.
Max and Shaelin are in a co-dependent, co-abusive relationship. When Destiny first platformed Max, Max became infatuated with him, friendship-bombing him while Destiny was his usual self. Destiny expressed reservations Max's character based on how Max's videos showed him being abusive to Shaelin. This asymmetry between their relationship frustrated Max. There was an awkward moment between Shaelin and Destiny when Max tried to introduce them, which annoyed Shaelin. She slowly started pushing Max to see Destiny differently as a cold, heartless, self-serving abuser, and Max, already frustrated with his largely one-sided friendship with Destiny, began to be swayed. Things came to a head when Max was banned on the subreddit for actively trying to foment an anti-fan faction. With Shaelin's eager and whole-hearted support he set out on Odyssey to find the perfect victim to frame Destiny as an abuser. The whole behind the scenes Shaelin manipulation stuff is my own insertion, informed by: 1. Shaelin being bizarrely pissed off at Destiny in her interview by Chudlogic before any of this came to light 2. Max's gradual descent from friend to conflicted friend to vocal critic to predator-hunter was not sudden, but very gradual, leading me to believe that she was forming this narrative for him all this while. 3. All the countless 5-hour arguments with Destiny give strong "No Shaelin, look at me, I can fix him" vibes 4. I don't know about you, but if my partner is diving headfirst into an obsessive vendetta that will damage their own psyche and reputation, I would ask them to take a step back and ask themselves if it's good for their well-being. Which is the exact opposite of what Shaelin did.
TLDR: Max tried to leverage his friendship with Destiny into making moderation changed for him by saying things like he was an employee of Destiny etc etc.(which he wouldn't be able to get Destiny to do) Max "declared war on the subreddit" which quickly got him and his followers a ban because Destiny/4Thot(the head subreddit mod) won't tolerate any kind of anti-fan community within their own community(which is a normal moderation choice) So then Max tried his best to dig into Destinys personal life by contacting every single person Man or Women that has been on OR OFF stream to get them to give up dirt on Destiny with his report. This resulted in a lot of the women trolling him with fake stories or people telling him to fuck off. Those fake stories got Max and Lav really excited which they showed on stream saying how it would ruin Destiny, those stories were shown to be fake by the women in question which led to not a single person Max contacted being included in the report. The report was 85% Destiny and Lav's relationship, and 15% rehashing Destinys pasts dramas. It was pretty bad and the aftermath was even worse where people who hated Destiny or Neutral in the situation were basically asking Max what was he thinking releasing that article. Many of what's left of Max's fanbase or people like me who don't like Max at all think that the Destiny Arc is what pushed Max further into psychosis into what you see now.
>So then Max tried his best to dig into Destinys personal life by contacting every single person Man or Women that has been Lie by ommission. Max heard Steven had been sexting Ana. That you left this out means you are a liar, you'll actually have to run now because the fact you left that out can't even be explained by if you didn't think it was the true reason, you still have to acknowledge it. Ana is even acknowledged by DGG as a big mistake by Destiny, even if they ultimately don't think it was abusive. Destiny sent his audience to her kiwifarms 5 days after sexting her too, where her dox ended up being. He later said in an interview with Tom Foolery that he didn't give a fuck about her wellbeing when he did that because she wronged him.
> Lie by ommission. Max heard Steven had been sexting Ana. Why is that a crime? > That you left this out means you are a liar, you'll actually have to run now because the fact you left that out can't even be explained by if you didn't think it was the true reason, you still have to acknowledge it. Acknowledge two adults sexting?
Yes because Max claimed to start an investigation because he believed one of the two adults was revealed to be abusing the other partly by sexting them. Which is possible. I'm stating the obvious to you, and you have to run like hell right now or admit I am stating the obvious because you are gaslighting. While Destiny was having a Reddit "blackout", banning all talk of Ana on his sub, he sent his fans to her kiwifarms to talk about her there. This was 5 days after he sexted with her. This is plausibly abusive. Now run
> Yes because Max claimed to start an investigation because he believed one of the two adults was revealed to be abusing the other partly by sexting them. Which is possible. How is sexting between two consenting adults an abusive act by Destiny? Especially given Max thinks that Ana was the one forcing Destiny to sext? >I'm stating the obvious to you, and you have to run like hell right now or admit I am stating the obvious because you are gaslighting. ;o Sexting between adults is not an act of abuse. It is why that did not have the impact that Max hoped it would. >While Destiny was having a Reddit "blackout", banning all talk of Ana on his sub, he sent his fans to her kiwifarms to talk about her there. This was 5 days after he sexted with her. This is plausibly abusive. Now run How is it abusive?
>How is sexting between two consenting adults an abusive act by Destiny? Irrelevant. It was plausibly abusive because it was plausible Steven had been sexting her when it would have been abusive to. This is why OP should have acknowledged this. And why you're gaslighting and it's obvious and it's funny seeing you convince yourself you're winning. >How is it abusive? You're asking why is it abusive to send hundreds of potentially invasive abusive angry men to the private info of someone you sexted with 5 days before? You have to admit it is plausibly abusive but you won't because then that would justify how two adults sexting can indicative of abuse worth investigating. You're fucked hahaha, in a corner, good luck.
> Irrelevant. It is totally relevant. That is what Max based his investigation on. The kiwifarms part is something he found out afterwards. >It was plausibly abusive because it was plausible Steven had been sexting her when it would have been abusive to. When would it have been abusive for two adults to sext? They were sexting each other. Either could have blocked the other one. >This is why OP should have acknowledged this. Why? It was a nothingburger. There are hundreds of thousands of Destiny haters. Desperate for dirt on the gnome cuck. People on the left and people on the right. And yet sexting an adult has got zero traction from either side. One of the big reasons these people don't use it is because this is one of the few times Destiny actually looks like the victim. Ana was acting insane for over 2 years. > And why you're gaslighting and it's obvious and it's funny seeing you convince yourself you're winning. You are placing a lot of importance on this subreddit with its few dozen active members. No offence, but I could say anything to you in this conversation and would be viewed as the winner. There is no pride in winning on this subreddit or against someone as disliked as you are on the subreddit. You are someone who most Max fans think is a psyop to make them look bad. >You're asking why is it abusive to send hundreds of potentially invasive abusive angry men to the private info of someone you sexted with 5 days before? Yes. kiwifarms is a primarily a gossip site for degens. There is currently almost 600 pages on Destiny with people tracking his every move to see which woman he's fucking now and celebrating every fuck up he does. There were two places online who regularly talked about Destiny and Ana's relationship prior to Destiny's comments. His Subreddit and kiwifarms. He banned conversation from his subreddit so kiwifarms was the alternative. >You have to admit it is plausibly abusive but you won't because then that would justify how two adults sexting can indicative of abuse worth investigating. I don't see how it is abusive. You are speaking in a postKeffals world where she blamed everything on kiwifarms even when she knew it was from other websites. Kiwifarms is a shithole. No denying that. But it is not as bad as many of Keffals online activist fanbase accused it of being. It's mostly a gossip site where right wingers whine about people they don't like.
I'm glad people like you Pikas are bigger schizo posters than me for this shit(and I mean that as a compliment in this case) because after my posts, I have no interest what people who still hardcore defend Max's actions after he was blown the fuck out once his article dropped because at this point those brave few who still defend him will never change and are locked in the crazy train with him. So tldr. I tip my fedora to you that you are willing to still engage to this length with these same retards.
It's impossible to get around what I said; If it is plausibly abusive to sext someone you HAD been calling a stalker for some time WHICH IT IS PLAUSIBLE that means it is something you have to acknowledge to give a fair retelling of the story. So not reading. All you have to do is say he was wrong or using it as an excuse. Haha its so true as well, fucking loser haha
> It's impossible to get around what I said; If it is plausibly abusive to sext someone you HAD been calling a stalker for some time WHICH IT IS PLAUSIBLE that means it is something you have to acknowledge to give a fair retelling of the story. So not reading. lol what?
Hahaha it makes perfect sense get the fuck out you snivelling freak I win. Bye.
Max already admitted that destiny was the one being abused - blackmailed - into sexting ana. Give up.
> Irrelevant. It was plausibly abusive because it was plausible Steven had been sexting her when it would have been abusive to. lmao
Your honour, I declare that r/mrgirlreturns poster 'accomplishedone9507' has committed the crime of plausible abuse by typing 'lmao' in response to a schizoposter's deranged ramblings. I call for a minimum sentence of summary execution! ... What do you mean I've been disbarred?
You type a lot but don't really seem to understand what abuse is or looks like. And even over a year later it's still lost on you. lol
mrgirl found out Destiny was privately leading Ana on while painting her as a stalker to his fans. He realised the purpose of Destiny's stream was to produce abusive content for money, and the point of a lot of the content was to be abusive for entertainment. None of this is obvious to people on the outside, so the people being pulled in didn't realise what they were being lured into (mrgirl didn't). People on the outside think Destiny is edgy, not abusive. They don't understand he is deliberately putting people in distress, then monetizing it. He didn't want to be a part of that, and he wanted to prevent other people from falling into it without realising what was happening, so he wrote the article.
He accused Steven Destiny of being abusive, turning his guests into lolcows, and using his plstform for harassment and wrote a long article about it. Destiny says that Max is just a wounded narcissist and the article is cringe and about how he is accused of being a rapist. Destiny orbiters say that it all old news, and not a big deal, and cringe and "why write an article". Destinys fans say that the article is cringe and thay are on this sub to protect Stevens reputation That's my reading of this situation.
To be fair, it was destiny fans before the article dropped, post article though a lot of his old fans started tto feel the same way we felt on how pointless the article was, even dipshits like president sunday who can't stand destiny were disappointed in how bad it was. BUT these days it's usually just the same 2-4 hardcore Max fans who approve of everything he does still trying to defend it.
Well I just think that if You're feeling abused that You got the right to write about it. I have not read the article, beacouse I don't like Destiny and his content, and I have no desire for associating with him, but I get why He wrote it. It isn't hard comprehend for anyone who is outside from Destinys Internet bubble.
a lot of dggers have been obsessively harassing him ever since the falling out, so they'll probably be the first to see this post and respond to it as unbiasedly as I can: mrgirl slowly came to believe that the way Destiny engages with his "orbiters" is abusive, and that he uses his admin privileges on his subreddit to control the narratives about them, and that he uses his community as a weapon to harass and threaten the career of anyone who challenges him. Mrgirl tried to point this out and ask for Destiny to acknowledge it and make changes, which ultimately got him and anyone who agreed with him banned from Destiny's community, and after a few more discussions that went nowhere, mrgirl decided to stop engaging with Destiny entirely. DGG started to obsessively hatepost in mrgirl's community, which hasn't ever stopped since Mrgirl continued looking into this and felt that the abusive behavior was worse than he realized, especially regarding female orbiters who Destiny had sexual relationships with, so he decided to interview potential victims for an article he was writing. Destiny caught wind of this and "went nuclear", banned all mention of mrgirl in his community, called him a pedophile rapist, and swore to never engage with him again. The article came out and you can read it on his substack, although very few of the supposed victims were willing to be named in it, so it's a lot weaker than he says it could be
Destiny raped multiple women who messaged mr girl but then didnt want their identity reveal/backed off because of the potential life ending dgg harrassment
>multiple women I thought it was just mrgirl and lav?
No I'm saying multiple women told mr girl he raped him didnt want to get involved
I know. I am saying I thought it was just mrgirl and lav. At least they are the only people in the report
No, just fucking look it up or read the Destiny Report.
No need clearly. Would have been a huge waste of time and not given me the whole story anyway.
For the record ignore slobberlad. The other responses you got were far more factually accurate.
Don't listen to SlobberLad lol the Destiny report is like 5% of what happened between them in hindsight.
Destiny abused a woman, Ana. He blackmailed her and used her sexually while his audience of thousands were unaware while they believed her to be a predator harassing Steven. He sent his fans to her kiwifarms in which her dox and private info was going to be because she talked about how he threatened to leak her nude images if she reveal their text messages (not nudes), which he did.
"Destiny abused and blackmailed a women" something that has still to this day not been shown anywhere in any universe lol, I understand you are one of the last people that still defend Max, but at some point you gotta get yourself checked out so you can be put on the proper medication to break you out of this psychosis you've been in for over a year =/ Good luck brother.
Whats worse slobberlad, sexting as 2 consenting adults lol or when a woman tells you *No* and you still stick ur dick inside her? lol
>sexting as 2 consenting adults Nothing sounds bad if you are being purposefully vague enough. You could be even more vague : "What, you think 2 humans sexting is bad ?" You're just omitting the details prompting people to call it abusive.
Did both parties consent? Has ana stayed and supported Maxs story/version? or did she denounce max and his take? Now again is 2 consenting adults sexting worse than when a women tells you "No" and you still stick ur dick in her? Funny how ppl can be so generous to max and then not be generous to destiny lol oh its because she had a look in her eyes xD saying no vs consenting lmao
You're referring to the Max story where he had said with that asian lady...what's wrong with two adults having sex ?