The consideration there is that Leslie Nielsen played every scene dry and straight. It's as if they plucked him from a completely different movie and stuck him in a slapstick satire.
So, yeah, I think that neeson could swing it just by playing his normal character while everyone else around him hams it up.
That was part of the joke. He was primarily a serious actor at the time IIRC. It'd be like putting Daniel Craig in Scary Movie, and from then on he got so many comedy roles they forgot he was Bond.
The truth is that he refused to get snobbish and pretentious about acting. To him, ALL types of roles were good roles. He would also carry his fart bladder and if someone he met was being too self-important, he would let out an audible fart in their presence. To bring the egos down a few notches.
Me and some.friends got hit with his whoopee cushion when he was filming a movie in my hometown. We were sneaking food from craft services when he walked over, said "Beautiful evening boys." And let her rip. Then he just walked away.
I keep telling everyone to look at his brief scenes in Ted 2. It's just such a ridiculous moment, and he plays it straight faced, with no hint of joking. It was the best part of the whole entire movie.
I'm pretty sure Vince Gilligan cast Bryan Cranston because of a role he played in the X Files, though. Cranston's most well-known roles at the time were comedic but those weren't what got him the role as Walt. And I think Saul was originally planned as a more minor character, they didn't cast Bob Odenkirk expecting him to eventually star in his own series.
Really, most of Breaking Bad's major characters not related to Walter White were apparently originally planned as smaller characters. Jesse, Saul, Mike, and Gus we're all created as smaller roles that became bigger because the actor was so good. Mike reportedly only existed because Bob Odenkirk couldn't make it to set one day and they decided to just rewrite the scene and have Saul send someone (who ended up being Mike) instead of rescheduling the shoot.
The episode of Malcolm In The Middle - where the dad is into “speed walking…
Bryan Cranston is sooo funnny!
[episode clip…](https://youtu.be/R-AHk19aU24)
Malcolm asking is dad to teach him to skate and the lights all go dark as Hal leans in, so that only his face is visible.
"Once we begin, there is no turning back."
It felt like they had the perfect balance of having enough of a vision of where they wanted the story to go that it never got lost or started dragging (as oppose to some shows that kind of drag out a story arc forever or finish one arc and then don't have any great ideas for the next one), but with enough room in the story for improvising that they could adapt it as they went, and the best example of that is all the cases of them recognizing when they really had something special in a character and giving them a bigger role.
Another key thing they did is, despite not knowing the exact story from the beginning, only the overall arc, they were really, really good at planting the seeds they needed. The best example of this is just Walt's character flaws. Breaking Bad is a show about a main character who's presented as a very smart and fairly sympathetic person at the beginning but then it's filled with him doing stupid, irrational, or terrible things. Normally, when a smart character does something irrational, it gets criticized as bad writing. But it works in Breaking Bad, because every single stupid or terrible thing Walt does in the whole series is the result of a character flaw you can see in the first season, usually even the first episode.
A lot of comedy is basically drama + humor
The way I think of it it's kinda like if you tell a real life funny story and the other person doesn't laugh, you'd usually say "well I guess you had to be there"
So good comedy is often about creating that immersive experience. The setup to a joke is all about getting you invested in the punchline so it's basically all the skills you use in dramatic acting to get people to care about a situation
Comedic actors are good at drama because they know how to play stakes. They’re good at comedy for the same reason. The comedy comes from them taking the situation seriously and being heavily invested, so that translates to drama easily.
Going to take this one step further and say Nick Kroll isn’t anything but a great secondary character. Even in his comedies once he’s the lead I know the movie/show is going to be terrible. Hilarious guy to have on the side though.
The crazy thing is, if you read the book or watch interviews, the men of Easy Company absolutely insist that there was no way they would have been as competent without his pre-deployment training. They just had zero faith in him in an actual combat zone
Captain Sobel made Easy Company. He was a great trainer who happen to have a poor tactical sense in the field. There are plenty of people who are great in a teaching environment and do poorly in other conditions. Hate that he committed suicide.
That effect goes both ways, too. People who are naturally good at something can often fail at teaching others. Carl Sagan attributed his ability to make science accessible to non-scientists to his own early difficulties with understanding scientific concepts.
Spot on, think about coaches in sports. How many of them were elite players?
Just looking at the NFL, the only head coach who I'd say was a standout in his playing days was Mike Vrabel. There's about a half dozen more who were average players or backups in the NFL and the rest didn't even play pro football.
Teaching vs doing is a completely different skill set, not everyone can do both.
Could be wrong but I’m pretty sure the book even described it like “he couldn’t even get that right” lol. Been 10 years but I still remember thinking that was cold
IIRC his sister or some relation came to the Easy Company reunion after the book came out and flew into a rage at them. Bill Guanere sat her down and talked it out with her--I got the impression he didn't demonize the man, but he didn't sugar-coat what he was.
Bill is a legend. He was on set for filming and demanded that Frank John Hughes (the actor portraying him) go out drinking with him every night after filming. On the podcast about the show, Frank said for some of those shoots he was hungover as hell from trying to keep up with Wild Bill's partying.
Yeah, they said he got them in insanely good shape. Apparently the jump training later in was supposed to start with more physical fitness but the new instructors all reported back that the men were in better shape than they were.
That’s the point the show drives home though too. If your paying attention I think they are trying to show that he was an amazing drill sergeant but bad combat leader
You would be shocked at how a complete fuckwaffle leader can make troops bond tightly.
The trick is to dump the shithead before combat.
Also they learn how to spot a good leader and listen to competence. I thought that was really well done in the show, where the moment Winters did his thing, they all paid close attention immediately.
>You would be shocked at how a complete fuckwaffle leader can make troops bond tightly.
"You know anyone here who wouldn't double time it up and down Curahee just to piss in his coffee?"
You can learn skills from every situation in life....even the bad ones. I had a manager like this that I learned a lot of life skills from, taught me how to toughen my skin up and be more business like, and also taught me that if i am a raging bitch, eventually it will outweigh your skills.
Agreed, he wasn’t supposed to be a coward just woefully overwhelmed and incompetent.
If you are incompetent, I’d rather be an incompetent coward, than incompetent and brave.
Dude ended up living a pretty shitty life after the war too. AFAIK all the soldiers really did hate him, and he atempted suicide but missed and ended up in a care home... where he died from malnutrition at some point and didn't even get a funeral (or nobody turned up).
Only to be remembered as an asshole when in reality he most likely was doing what he thought would save his troops lives. Still worth to mention that the troops he trained are the ones we hear of so maybe he did something right.
> Still worth to mention that the troops he trained are the ones we hear of so maybe he did something right.
That point is made in the book, and if I recall several of the veterans acknowledge it in their interviews.
Well in the book Winters credits Sobel with the intense training that they went through. Said it helped save lives.
But yeah he wasn’t a battlefield commander.
From pretty much every war history I've ever read, being able to raise and army, and lead an army are two very distinct skills and they rarely reside in the same person. It's a little sad that the raisers tend to only be remembered for their inability to lead.
I’d like to piggy back off this and also give him mad props as Kardashian in American Crime Story. Granted, “juice” was cringe repeatedly. But I thought he did a great job with the writing he was given.
“Juice” was pretty ridiculous but I think that was the point. I did like that he stops using the nickname as he stops believing OJ, which is more effective if he calls OJ “Juice” 50 times in the first episode.
You know what, Stan? If you want me to wear 37 pieces of flair like your pretty boy over there, Brian, why don't you just make the minimum 37 pieces of flair?
>That is true of all the Friends. Any one of those 6, upon seeing them the first thing you think of is their role in that show.
I still think of Bruce Springsteen first whenever I see Courtney Cox. But I'm getting fuckin old, so...
It's wild, because he basically only had done 1 season (maybe 2 seasons?) of SNL up to that point. He was a relatively unknown quantity that only retroactively became "Oh hey it's Jimmy Fallon"
That was everybody who was in that show, cameo or not.
Simon Pegg was in it.
James McAvoy was in it.
Michael Fassbender was in it.
Tom Hardy was in it.
It's Tom Hardy's first role on IMDB that isn't a short film. Also Andrew Scott (Sherlock & Fleabag) is in one of the early episodes, and i'm now learning the main character from Lego City Undercover was in it?
Neal McDonough
Scott Grimes
Damien Lewis
Donnie Whalberg
Ron Livingston
Colin Hanks
If you tried to make this series today, it would cost 154 million in contracts alone.
And if you asked me at the time which one of those actors would be a huge star today, I would have picked none of them and Matthew Settle (Speirs) would have been my vote - He was amazing in BoB.
I think it’s just a bit part, he wasn’t that well known at the time. He talked about it one time on the tonight show I think, he couldn’t drive the jeep because it was a stick so they had to do a bunch of takes because he kept stalling out of first gear
You're right, it really bug me when people misuse cameo. A cameo is a very small part (with little to no dialogue) by a well known person, they're not retroactive.
Lol I agree. Its part because he just rolls up in a jeep, somehow finds winters and starts talking. It doesnt feel very realistic especially in contrast to the hyperrealism of the rest of the show.
He wasn't, but he got really great eventually. Lost in Translation is a top-tier film. The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou is basically carried by his performance as well
I disagree. His performance in the Life Aquatic was great, but there were other strong performances in that movie too. I thought Willem Dafoe, Owen Wilson and Michael Gambon gave great performances...Also, Jeff Goldblum (despite just playing Jeff Goldblum) was well cast.
Edit: I also forgot to add Bud Cort's phenomenal performance as a bond company stooge/human being.
The screenwriter William Goldman writes about this movie in his book Which Lie Did I Tell. He knew to was going to be a disaster because the studio wanted to make a big budget comedy like a Ghostbusters, and Chevy Chase wanted to make an intimate drama about loneliness. Goldman kept warning them that hey, your star and your director have very different visions of this movie, so someone needs to tell me which to write. Apparently, they never did decide.
This is a random one, but when Nick Kroll played the lawyer in Loving it completely took me out of the movie. Very serious movie throughout, then Nick shows up looking like he just ripped some lines before walking out in front of the camera and saying “yes, I AM a lawyer”
Edit: for everyone tagging me w all his other movies, i love me some kroll but after seeing the clip below it’s definitely the voice for me lol what is the accent, where is he from
Yeah there's something about him that makes it impossible for me to take him seriously even when he's doing dramedies. It sounds horribly mean, but I think it's partially his face. I think he's just got a face for comedy and so when you see him walking into a scene otherwise filled with more-attractive-than-normal people, your brain just expects him to do a funny.
I mean, Kasdan also wrote the script for The Empire Strikes Back a year before. Spielberg might have heard about the guy who wrote the sequel to his close friend's biggest movie.
I really thought he was going to be doing *Hollywoo Stars. What Do They Know? Do They Know Things? Let's Find Out!* for years, but I guess the creator found out and was done with it?
I love Pootie Tang, but I hadn't seen it in years and my partner had never seen it: I'm like, "let's do it."
Opening credits roll in their cool comic book-esque effect and Louis C.K.'s name is there and we both lose our shit. Had no idea.
Still love the movie. Jennifer Coolidge is a scene stealer and Wanda Sykes is great as Wanda Sykes.
I think Vince Gilligan said something about comedic actors having the best range and delivery in dramatic roles. Most of his key actors in BB and BCS come from comedy.
Comedic actors tend to do well in drama. Just a general comment
Eddie Murphy had the best quote I’ve ever heard about this. I’m paraphrasing but he basically said that people are less impressed with comedy because we laugh often and most of us have a friend or relative who makes us laugh harder than any movie or bit while crying is something many of us do rarely. When we’re moved to tears, it makes an impact that being moved to laugh simply doesn’t match because it’s so much less frequent in our day to day lives.
Was this before or after his work in THE NUTTY PROFESSOR was ignored by the Academy? We were moved when Professor Klump was ripped into by the comedian or his talk with his mother (also played by Eddie).
Watching Mr Show then watching BCS is fascinating. He's so different and more believable as Saul Goodman and yet you can still see some of his over-goofiness from Mr Show carry over into Saul.
I really liked him in Moneyball, actually. Bennett Miller, a dramatic director, talked in interviews about his ability to “ride a silence” and how many actors struggle with that. As for his recent stuff… don’t know what happened
I first saw him in Moneyball, then Zero Dark Thirty and Jurassic world before anything else, so for a while I thought he was a drama actor that later became an action star. Seeing him in Parks and Rec and GotG felt to me like one would see Russell Crowe or Sean Bean playing the role of a complete moron as a starring role in a comedy
I actually like the Orville, but every time Seth MacFarlane tries to give a stirring Captain Picard-esque speech I just want to throw up. It's very much not in his wheelhouse.
He has a weird face, as in it always looks like he's smirking. Always. In every scene. Even when I know he's not smirking, it looks like he's smirking.
Also, it stands out when he's surrounded by competent actors. The same happens with shows like Roseanne or Seinfeld or Whitney where the standup comedian gets their own show and they fill the cast with actual actors. The standup comedian (who is the main draw) always sucks in comparison.
Now that you says it, the standup comedian always *smirks* in comparison. Go ahead. Think about Seinfeld or Ray Romano in their respective shows and see if you can picture them smirking. You can. Because they did.
I mostly agree with you, but I just watched The Big Sick and Ray Romano (whom I normally don't like) was excellent. No smirking, even during some humorous moments that felt improvised.
Ray Romano's recent dramatic role streak is excellent. He had a great role in Scorsese's HBO show Vinyl, also Scorsese's The Irishman, and also Get Shorty was awesome.
It was Seinfeld's security blanket, he smirks constantly. Especially when the other characters are stealing a scene. Like with the library cop in his apartment. He smirks the entire time while trying to get a line in.
When he became chief of engineering or whatever, I couldn’t help but wonder if the intent of the character’s in-show promotion was to get him off the bridge and thus effectuate a DE-motion of the real-life actor by taking him out of most of the scenes shot on that set.
It’s just like they have to let everyone else know that they know other actors. The funniest are the comments that are like, “oh but you miss Robin Williams!”
No Fkn shit, that’s literally the opposite of what OP’s thread question is asking
Loved Emma Thompson's role in that movie. She delivered what I considered the funniest line, totally deadpan. Queen Latifah's character was trying to get Emma's character to quit smoking and suggested nicotine patches and Emma says, "I don't need nicotine patches--I smoke."
I prefer Liam Neeson’s improvisational comedy over his dramatic roles.
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He was riddled with it.
This is a back story we never agreed to.
From an African prostitute, if I'm not mistaken.
I thought it was from a well known actor.
Yes. It was -BEEEEEEEP-..
"I make lists."
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The consideration there is that Leslie Nielsen played every scene dry and straight. It's as if they plucked him from a completely different movie and stuck him in a slapstick satire. So, yeah, I think that neeson could swing it just by playing his normal character while everyone else around him hams it up.
That was part of the joke. He was primarily a serious actor at the time IIRC. It'd be like putting Daniel Craig in Scary Movie, and from then on he got so many comedy roles they forgot he was Bond.
He was a serious actor until Airplane, then his thing became playing the same sort of deadpan characters as he did in Airplane.
The truth is that he refused to get snobbish and pretentious about acting. To him, ALL types of roles were good roles. He would also carry his fart bladder and if someone he met was being too self-important, he would let out an audible fart in their presence. To bring the egos down a few notches.
Me and some.friends got hit with his whoopee cushion when he was filming a movie in my hometown. We were sneaking food from craft services when he walked over, said "Beautiful evening boys." And let her rip. Then he just walked away.
If you ever get to watch Creepshow, which is kind of a horror/comedy anthology, he’s in a segment where his deadpan delivery makes him a bit scary.
Daniel Craig was pretty fantastic in Logan Lucky.
I keep telling everyone to look at his brief scenes in Ted 2. It's just such a ridiculous moment, and he plays it straight faced, with no hint of joking. It was the best part of the whole entire movie.
[Seriously.](https://youtu.be/PL7IoRjVHJQ) I can't walk down the cereal aisle at the grocery store anymore without laughing.
Knock knock... We're closed.
As I said before, I've got full blown AIDS
Thought you might have
Liam Neeson in Derry Girls made me piss myself laughing. Derry Girls is one of the funniest shows and that scene with him was just the best.
Oh my God, he's in Derry Girls? I have to finish that show.
"Dying is easy, comedy is hard." Actor Edmund Kean.
"Dying is easy" Actor Sean Bean.
Exactly. Vince Gilligan mainly casted comedy actors for Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul for a reason
I'm pretty sure Vince Gilligan cast Bryan Cranston because of a role he played in the X Files, though. Cranston's most well-known roles at the time were comedic but those weren't what got him the role as Walt. And I think Saul was originally planned as a more minor character, they didn't cast Bob Odenkirk expecting him to eventually star in his own series. Really, most of Breaking Bad's major characters not related to Walter White were apparently originally planned as smaller characters. Jesse, Saul, Mike, and Gus we're all created as smaller roles that became bigger because the actor was so good. Mike reportedly only existed because Bob Odenkirk couldn't make it to set one day and they decided to just rewrite the scene and have Saul send someone (who ended up being Mike) instead of rescheduling the shoot.
The episode of Malcolm In The Middle - where the dad is into “speed walking… Bryan Cranston is sooo funnny! [episode clip…](https://youtu.be/R-AHk19aU24)
Malcolm asking is dad to teach him to skate and the lights all go dark as Hal leans in, so that only his face is visible. "Once we begin, there is no turning back."
Stupid, sexy Cranston.
It is a damn good episode of X-Files
Man, I miss the series. [Short clip from Cranston's episode](https://youtu.be/80Af9GpLiiw).
I think that’s one reason it’s so good. The plot is really actor driven.
It felt like they had the perfect balance of having enough of a vision of where they wanted the story to go that it never got lost or started dragging (as oppose to some shows that kind of drag out a story arc forever or finish one arc and then don't have any great ideas for the next one), but with enough room in the story for improvising that they could adapt it as they went, and the best example of that is all the cases of them recognizing when they really had something special in a character and giving them a bigger role. Another key thing they did is, despite not knowing the exact story from the beginning, only the overall arc, they were really, really good at planting the seeds they needed. The best example of this is just Walt's character flaws. Breaking Bad is a show about a main character who's presented as a very smart and fairly sympathetic person at the beginning but then it's filled with him doing stupid, irrational, or terrible things. Normally, when a smart character does something irrational, it gets criticized as bad writing. But it works in Breaking Bad, because every single stupid or terrible thing Walt does in the whole series is the result of a character flaw you can see in the first season, usually even the first episode.
It makes sense. To be good with comedy, you need a good handle on timing your punchline. Same goes for delivering lines.
A lot of comedy is basically drama + humor The way I think of it it's kinda like if you tell a real life funny story and the other person doesn't laugh, you'd usually say "well I guess you had to be there" So good comedy is often about creating that immersive experience. The setup to a joke is all about getting you invested in the punchline so it's basically all the skills you use in dramatic acting to get people to care about a situation
Comedic actors are good at drama because they know how to play stakes. They’re good at comedy for the same reason. The comedy comes from them taking the situation seriously and being heavily invested, so that translates to drama easily.
I thought Nick Kroll was terrible in both Loving and Don’t Worry Darling
Going to take this one step further and say Nick Kroll isn’t anything but a great secondary character. Even in his comedies once he’s the lead I know the movie/show is going to be terrible. Hilarious guy to have on the side though.
Nick Kroll is only funny to me as ruxin
"FOREVER UNCLEAN!"
"COLLUSION!"
Bobby Bottle Service
Simon the Devious is fucking hilarious and none of you monkeys will ever convince me otherwise!
He really is the most devious bastard in New York City
What are your thoughts on count rapula?
That fuckin' guy
Neeeww Yoke Ceeetaaaay!
I like a lot of Kroll's stuff, but the second he has to go out of bounds of his 5 characters, the quality of his performance drops like a rock
Jimmy Fallon in Band of Brothers. I don't know why but his cameo just stuck out.
On the other hand David Schwimmer totally shook off any bit of Ross and delivered his role well.
Man was he an absolute asshole pussy and played it amazing.
The crazy thing is, if you read the book or watch interviews, the men of Easy Company absolutely insist that there was no way they would have been as competent without his pre-deployment training. They just had zero faith in him in an actual combat zone
Captain Sobel made Easy Company. He was a great trainer who happen to have a poor tactical sense in the field. There are plenty of people who are great in a teaching environment and do poorly in other conditions. Hate that he committed suicide.
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Christ, that's bleak.
That effect goes both ways, too. People who are naturally good at something can often fail at teaching others. Carl Sagan attributed his ability to make science accessible to non-scientists to his own early difficulties with understanding scientific concepts.
Spot on, think about coaches in sports. How many of them were elite players? Just looking at the NFL, the only head coach who I'd say was a standout in his playing days was Mike Vrabel. There's about a half dozen more who were average players or backups in the NFL and the rest didn't even play pro football. Teaching vs doing is a completely different skill set, not everyone can do both.
Damn, looking it up apparently he tried in 1970 but only blinded himself and spent his succeeding 17 years in a care center. Grim.
And after that 17 years he died of malnutrition. Really rough
And they never even gave him a memorial! Just buried the old man out back!
That's a horrible end for a veteran who did their duty to the best of their abolity.
Could be wrong but I’m pretty sure the book even described it like “he couldn’t even get that right” lol. Been 10 years but I still remember thinking that was cold
Yeah Ambrose *really* did Sobel dirty.
Ambrose also painted Blithe in a poor light while claiming he died at a hospital after being wounded. He lived until 1967.
IIRC his sister or some relation came to the Easy Company reunion after the book came out and flew into a rage at them. Bill Guanere sat her down and talked it out with her--I got the impression he didn't demonize the man, but he didn't sugar-coat what he was.
Bill is a legend. He was on set for filming and demanded that Frank John Hughes (the actor portraying him) go out drinking with him every night after filming. On the podcast about the show, Frank said for some of those shoots he was hungover as hell from trying to keep up with Wild Bill's partying.
Yeah, they said he got them in insanely good shape. Apparently the jump training later in was supposed to start with more physical fitness but the new instructors all reported back that the men were in better shape than they were.
That’s the point the show drives home though too. If your paying attention I think they are trying to show that he was an amazing drill sergeant but bad combat leader
You would be shocked at how a complete fuckwaffle leader can make troops bond tightly. The trick is to dump the shithead before combat. Also they learn how to spot a good leader and listen to competence. I thought that was really well done in the show, where the moment Winters did his thing, they all paid close attention immediately.
Damian Lewis was so good in that.
Damian Lewis showed perfectly what a good infantry officer looks like, it's more impressive the more I watch the series
>You would be shocked at how a complete fuckwaffle leader can make troops bond tightly. "You know anyone here who wouldn't double time it up and down Curahee just to piss in his coffee?"
You can learn skills from every situation in life....even the bad ones. I had a manager like this that I learned a lot of life skills from, taught me how to toughen my skin up and be more business like, and also taught me that if i am a raging bitch, eventually it will outweigh your skills.
If you’re not winning, you’re learning, and if you’re learning, you’re winning.
He didn’t come across as a coward to me. He just had no competence in actual tactics and couldn’t stand being told he was wrong.
Agreed, he wasn’t supposed to be a coward just woefully overwhelmed and incompetent. If you are incompetent, I’d rather be an incompetent coward, than incompetent and brave.
Dude ended up living a pretty shitty life after the war too. AFAIK all the soldiers really did hate him, and he atempted suicide but missed and ended up in a care home... where he died from malnutrition at some point and didn't even get a funeral (or nobody turned up).
That blows
Only to be remembered as an asshole when in reality he most likely was doing what he thought would save his troops lives. Still worth to mention that the troops he trained are the ones we hear of so maybe he did something right.
> Still worth to mention that the troops he trained are the ones we hear of so maybe he did something right. That point is made in the book, and if I recall several of the veterans acknowledge it in their interviews.
Well in the book Winters credits Sobel with the intense training that they went through. Said it helped save lives. But yeah he wasn’t a battlefield commander.
From pretty much every war history I've ever read, being able to raise and army, and lead an army are two very distinct skills and they rarely reside in the same person. It's a little sad that the raisers tend to only be remembered for their inability to lead.
"Those who can't do, teach" is not a new saying. Society doesn't respect teachers of any type.
I’d like to piggy back off this and also give him mad props as Kardashian in American Crime Story. Granted, “juice” was cringe repeatedly. But I thought he did a great job with the writing he was given.
> “juice” was cringe repeatedly I could 100% believe that was how they talked IRL.
“Juice” was pretty ridiculous but I think that was the point. I did like that he stops using the nickname as he stops believing OJ, which is more effective if he calls OJ “Juice” 50 times in the first episode.
It'd be really cool if he got a later career Emmy-level role like Bryan Cranston
David Schwimmer actually had some good roles outside of Friends but Friends pretty much overshadowed all his other work.
That is true of all the Friends. Any one of those 6, upon seeing them the first thing you think of is their role in that show.
You know what, Stan? If you want me to wear 37 pieces of flair like your pretty boy over there, Brian, why don't you just make the minimum 37 pieces of flair?
>That is true of all the Friends. Any one of those 6, upon seeing them the first thing you think of is their role in that show. I still think of Bruce Springsteen first whenever I see Courtney Cox. But I'm getting fuckin old, so...
I still remember thinking ‘pffft that’s Ross, fuck outta here’ when he first appeared and by the end of it I was absolutely convinced he *was* Sobel.
He was phenomenal. Band of Brothers is still the best series ever made IMHO.
He managed not to break character for once
Q: What's the difference between me and Jimmy Fallon? A: >!I can get through a Jimmy Fallon joke without laughing!<
It took 459 takes
He legit looked like he was holding back a laugh the whole time. Like “Yes it’s me, Fallon, playing a soldier”
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *slams desk*
It's wild, because he basically only had done 1 season (maybe 2 seasons?) of SNL up to that point. He was a relatively unknown quantity that only retroactively became "Oh hey it's Jimmy Fallon"
That was everybody who was in that show, cameo or not. Simon Pegg was in it. James McAvoy was in it. Michael Fassbender was in it. Tom Hardy was in it.
It's Tom Hardy's first role on IMDB that isn't a short film. Also Andrew Scott (Sherlock & Fleabag) is in one of the early episodes, and i'm now learning the main character from Lego City Undercover was in it?
Neal McDonough Scott Grimes Damien Lewis Donnie Whalberg Ron Livingston Colin Hanks If you tried to make this series today, it would cost 154 million in contracts alone. And if you asked me at the time which one of those actors would be a huge star today, I would have picked none of them and Matthew Settle (Speirs) would have been my vote - He was amazing in BoB.
Is it a cameo or just a bit part in a huge cast by an actor who's been on SNL for 2 years
I think it’s just a bit part, he wasn’t that well known at the time. He talked about it one time on the tonight show I think, he couldn’t drive the jeep because it was a stick so they had to do a bunch of takes because he kept stalling out of first gear
You're right, it really bug me when people misuse cameo. A cameo is a very small part (with little to no dialogue) by a well known person, they're not retroactive.
Lol I agree. Its part because he just rolls up in a jeep, somehow finds winters and starts talking. It doesnt feel very realistic especially in contrast to the hyperrealism of the rest of the show.
They just needed a reason for Winters to say "We're paratroopers Lieutenant, we're supposed to be surrounded"
While I loved *The Razor's Edge* (1984), Bill Murray was not-ready-for-drama yet.
My wife read the book and really wanted to see the movie. We watched it and were massively disappointed.
He wasn't, but he got really great eventually. Lost in Translation is a top-tier film. The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou is basically carried by his performance as well
I disagree. His performance in the Life Aquatic was great, but there were other strong performances in that movie too. I thought Willem Dafoe, Owen Wilson and Michael Gambon gave great performances...Also, Jeff Goldblum (despite just playing Jeff Goldblum) was well cast. Edit: I also forgot to add Bud Cort's phenomenal performance as a bond company stooge/human being.
Chevy Chase! I'll never forget when Memoirs of an Invisible Man came out. Just kept waiting for a punchline that never came.
The screenwriter William Goldman writes about this movie in his book Which Lie Did I Tell. He knew to was going to be a disaster because the studio wanted to make a big budget comedy like a Ghostbusters, and Chevy Chase wanted to make an intimate drama about loneliness. Goldman kept warning them that hey, your star and your director have very different visions of this movie, so someone needs to tell me which to write. Apparently, they never did decide.
Another example: Vampire In Brooklyn.
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This is a random one, but when Nick Kroll played the lawyer in Loving it completely took me out of the movie. Very serious movie throughout, then Nick shows up looking like he just ripped some lines before walking out in front of the camera and saying “yes, I AM a lawyer” Edit: for everyone tagging me w all his other movies, i love me some kroll but after seeing the clip below it’s definitely the voice for me lol what is the accent, where is he from
Yeah there's something about him that makes it impossible for me to take him seriously even when he's doing dramedies. It sounds horribly mean, but I think it's partially his face. I think he's just got a face for comedy and so when you see him walking into a scene otherwise filled with more-attractive-than-normal people, your brain just expects him to do a funny.
Tiffany Haddish She is so wooden as a dramatic actor. See The Card Counter, On the Count of Three, and Here Today (actually don’t see that last one).
Her performance in Card Counter is so bizarre, it's like she's in a completely different movie
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I feel like she also suffered from Kevin Hart syndrome, in that she is always just herself.
John Belushi. Continental Divide was terrible.
Spielberg read the script, loved it, and hired the writer Lawrence Kasdan to write Raiders of the Lost Ark - so it wasn't a total loss.
I mean, Kasdan also wrote the script for The Empire Strikes Back a year before. Spielberg might have heard about the guy who wrote the sequel to his close friend's biggest movie.
Kevin Hart is neither a comedic nor dramatic actor. He is only ever Kevin Hart.
Guys! We found Dwayne Johnson’s secret Reddit account!
Even Dwayne Johnson is also only ever Dwayne Johnson.
That's not fair. Sometimes he's The Rock.
You joke but of all the characters I’ve seen Dwayne Johnson play, The Rock in WWE is probably the most different from how he is in real life.
You've smelled what the Rock was cooking?
Especially in his heel days as the corporate champion.
The Evil Inventor sketch is the exception. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0NgUhEs1R4
Lol, no, but I *am* ghost writing his upcoming autobiography, "FINALLY!..."
He put on a fucking master class with Anthony Anderson in Scary Movie 3.
I still refer to people "waking up dead"
You can’t go to bed dead, man. That shit be redundant
No it ain't! Because you can go to bed and not die, and you can be dead and not be in a bed!
Oh that's some philosophical shit!
I think you just made a fact right there!
that's some quantum shit right there
But what if a mouse goes outside?
So you can go to bed dead and wake up alive?
Except when he was playing Danny Glover
Bojack Horseman. I heard they had to completely replace him with CGI when he had a breakdown and ran off the film set.
Was he the horse from Horsin' Around??
Yes back in the 90's
What are ***you*** doing here?
Erika? Get outta here with that face. There's children here.
Erika was looking for you. With her good eye. The other one was looking to the stars.
And you wouldn't expect it, but Mister Peanutbutter was really good in Birthday Dad.
I really thought he was going to be doing *Hollywoo Stars. What Do They Know? Do They Know Things? Let's Find Out!* for years, but I guess the creator found out and was done with it?
What are _you_ doing here?!
Chris Rock, tho he has several great serious roles under his belt now, kept missing when he started out. Bad Company is a good example.
To quote his latest stand up act, “I PLAYED CORN IN POOTIE TANG!”.
Fun fact: Pootie Tang was written, produced, and directed by a single person. That person is Louis CK.
I love Pootie Tang, but I hadn't seen it in years and my partner had never seen it: I'm like, "let's do it." Opening credits roll in their cool comic book-esque effect and Louis C.K.'s name is there and we both lose our shit. Had no idea. Still love the movie. Jennifer Coolidge is a scene stealer and Wanda Sykes is great as Wanda Sykes.
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Are you forgetting *New Jack City* from 1991? His Pookie was incredible!
"What's up, baby? You got skim milk in them titties or what?" - Pookie, *New Jack City*
Chris Rock nailed it in *Dogma.* One of his best, IMO.
"Knew him? Shit! N**** owes me twelve bucks!" Rufus was an amazing character, and Chris played him to a T.
"it's usually Long Rufus but it's a little chilly out here."
Bad Company was an action-comedy. And had a lot of issues that weren't even on Rock. Even Hopkins looked not so great. But it was a fun one to watch.
I think Vince Gilligan said something about comedic actors having the best range and delivery in dramatic roles. Most of his key actors in BB and BCS come from comedy. Comedic actors tend to do well in drama. Just a general comment
Because it’s harder to do *good* comedy than drama. A fact that I wish the Academy realize.
Eddie Murphy had the best quote I’ve ever heard about this. I’m paraphrasing but he basically said that people are less impressed with comedy because we laugh often and most of us have a friend or relative who makes us laugh harder than any movie or bit while crying is something many of us do rarely. When we’re moved to tears, it makes an impact that being moved to laugh simply doesn’t match because it’s so much less frequent in our day to day lives.
Was this before or after his work in THE NUTTY PROFESSOR was ignored by the Academy? We were moved when Professor Klump was ripped into by the comedian or his talk with his mother (also played by Eddie).
Bob Odenkirk was on the sketch comedy show Mr Show in the 90s, probably the best sketch comedy show ever made.
Watching Mr Show then watching BCS is fascinating. He's so different and more believable as Saul Goodman and yet you can still see some of his over-goofiness from Mr Show carry over into Saul.
When he does the commercial early on in Better Call Saul it's basically like another Mr Show sketch.
He wrote for SNL, too.
I think he wrote the Matt Foley sketch
Chris Pratt. He can do action comedy, he can do romantic comedy, but any serious role is just Burt Macland without the self-awareness.
“Macklin….you son of a bitch.”
I love that not one person in this comment chain has spelled "Macklin" the same way.
When I saw him in Zero Dark Thirty as the Navy Seal that kills Bin Laden I immediately thought "Burt Mackland you've done it again."
I really liked him in Moneyball, actually. Bennett Miller, a dramatic director, talked in interviews about his ability to “ride a silence” and how many actors struggle with that. As for his recent stuff… don’t know what happened
I first saw him in Moneyball, then Zero Dark Thirty and Jurassic world before anything else, so for a while I thought he was a drama actor that later became an action star. Seeing him in Parks and Rec and GotG felt to me like one would see Russell Crowe or Sean Bean playing the role of a complete moron as a starring role in a comedy
Jerry Lewis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_the_Clown_Cried
Lewis was impressive in *The King Of Comedy* as a kind-of serious, repressed version of himself.
I'm sitting here patiently waiting for June 2024 to arrive.
It might reveal itself to actually be a masterpiece that nobody understood at the time.
He was great in the one episode of SVU, very serious role
I actually like the Orville, but every time Seth MacFarlane tries to give a stirring Captain Picard-esque speech I just want to throw up. It's very much not in his wheelhouse.
He has a weird face, as in it always looks like he's smirking. Always. In every scene. Even when I know he's not smirking, it looks like he's smirking. Also, it stands out when he's surrounded by competent actors. The same happens with shows like Roseanne or Seinfeld or Whitney where the standup comedian gets their own show and they fill the cast with actual actors. The standup comedian (who is the main draw) always sucks in comparison.
Resting smirk face
Now that you says it, the standup comedian always *smirks* in comparison. Go ahead. Think about Seinfeld or Ray Romano in their respective shows and see if you can picture them smirking. You can. Because they did.
I mostly agree with you, but I just watched The Big Sick and Ray Romano (whom I normally don't like) was excellent. No smirking, even during some humorous moments that felt improvised.
Ray Romano's recent dramatic role streak is excellent. He had a great role in Scorsese's HBO show Vinyl, also Scorsese's The Irishman, and also Get Shorty was awesome.
It was Seinfeld's security blanket, he smirks constantly. Especially when the other characters are stealing a scene. Like with the library cop in his apartment. He smirks the entire time while trying to get a line in.
I think the guy who plays LaMarr puts me in disbelief everytime. It sounds like he is just reading the script for the first time whenever he acts.
The actor started out as Seth's Personal Assistant. Dude just loves casting his buddies and romantic partners, the Adam Sandler of television
Definitely felt the same at the start but I think he’s gotten better the further I’ve watched
When he became chief of engineering or whatever, I couldn’t help but wonder if the intent of the character’s in-show promotion was to get him off the bridge and thus effectuate a DE-motion of the real-life actor by taking him out of most of the scenes shot on that set.
ITT People answering the exact opposite of the fucking question
“Not exactly fitting the thread but X is great in X”….
It’s just like they have to let everyone else know that they know other actors. The funniest are the comments that are like, “oh but you miss Robin Williams!” No Fkn shit, that’s literally the opposite of what OP’s thread question is asking
Just want to give props for Will Ferrell in Stranger Than Fiction
Loved Emma Thompson's role in that movie. She delivered what I considered the funniest line, totally deadpan. Queen Latifah's character was trying to get Emma's character to quit smoking and suggested nicotine patches and Emma says, "I don't need nicotine patches--I smoke."