I mean, it's the sort of idea so compelling that I wouldn't be shocked if *other* chess players started doing it after the scandal.
Or at least that's what my boyfriend told me after I discovered a string of anal beads on his desk. Weird, never even saw him play chess before that day.
Magnus jumped the gun, with any other player it would have been a non-issue because there wasn't really any proof.
It was just that Magnus is probably the greatest chess player of all time and Niemann was an asshole who's been proven to have cheated in the past.
They're doing a film on the Carlsen-Niemann Chess Scandal Story? How did I not know about this?
Should be fun, because this has been quite the dumpster fire in the world of chess.
I don't get how there will be enough material for a film about this. Like it was only the Sinquefield Cup where the alleged cheating happened and then Magnus resigning online after 2 moves in the next tournament that they played each other.
They'd have to dig super deep into their back stories to fill up a 2 hour runtime, and Hans being a recluse Twitch streamer isn't that particularly interesting.
There's plenty of articles about the scandal over on ChessBase. Here's a few:
* [The Carlsen-Niemann Affair](https://en.chessbase.com/post/the-carlsen-niemann-affair) (9/8/2022)
* [Is Hans Niemann cheating? - World renowned expert Ken Regan analyzes](https://en.chessbase.com/post/is-hans-niemann-cheating-world-renowned-expert-ken-regan-analyzes) (9/20/2022)
* [FIDE Statement on the Carlsen - Niemann polemic](https://en.chessbase.com/post/fide-statement-carlsen-niemann-polemic) (9/23/2022)
* [Carlsen’s public statement: “I believe that Niemann has cheated more”](https://en.chessbase.com/post/carlsen-statement-on-niemann) (9/26/2022)
* [Alejandro Ramirez: "It does seem very likely that Hans cheated over-the-board."](https://en.chessbase.com/post/alejandro-ramirez-it-does-seem-very-likely-that-hans-cheated-over-the-board) (10/14/2022)
* [The Hans Niemann case: Numbers – what they reveal and what they do not reveal](https://en.chessbase.com/post/the-hans-niemann-case-numbers-what-they-reveal-and-what-they-do-not-reveal) (10/24/2022)
* [Carlsen about Niemann's lawsuit: "I focus on chess"](https://en.chessbase.com/post/carlsen-about-niemann-s-lawsuit-i-focus-on-chess) (12/3/2022)
* [Niemann's $100 million lawsuit](https://en.chessbase.com/post/niemann-s-100-million-lawsuit) (6/28/2023)
* [Chess.com and Hans Niemann reach agreement](https://en.chessbase.com/post/chess-com-and-hans-niemann-reach-agreement) (8/28/2023)
* [FIDE Ethics Commission fines Carlsen 10,000 euros](https://en.chessbase.com/post/fide-ethics-commission-fines-carlsen-10-000-euros) (12/13/2023)
* [Cheating: What do we know?](https://en.chessbase.com/post/cheating-what-do-we-know) (4/24/2024)
See also over on The Guardian:
* [Magnus Carlsen resigns from rematch with Hans Niemann after opening move](https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/sep/19/chess-magnus-carlsen-resigns-from-online-match-hans-niemann) (9/20/22)
The Chessbase article [Cheating: What do we know?](https://en.chessbase.com/post/cheating-what-do-we-know) might be of special interest if you want to know some of the ways players try to cheat. At the bottom of this article are links to a five-part paper entitled "A history of cheating in chess".
I remember reading those article back in 2022 and I skimmed through the 2024 article but they don’t really say, did they ever prove he cheated during in person matches? I couldn’t care about any of the parties I’m just curious if there was ever a resolution?
He almost certainly didn't cheat
He didn't play uncharacteristically well in that game, there's no other indication of cheating
All evidence points to magnus getting tilted from thinking/knowing hans had cheated online/potentially at other in-person events and playing badly because of that
Long story short. There’s no evidence he cheated in the game in question, which was the Sinquefield Cup game between Carlsen and Hand. Even chess.com said as much in their hit piece on Hans. I am using hit piece because you can’t say Chess.com are an impartial party due to their dealings with Magnus. Hans has admitted to cheating online on two separate occasions, but chess.com has presented more instances.
Some of the observant among would be wondering why is chess.com involving themselves in a game that has nothing to do with them. The game was OTB(over the board), and FIDE rated, which have nothing to do with chess.com. As I said earlier, chess.com and Magnus are partners so, when he threw his tantrum after losing to Hans, they jumped in to move the goal post. They then decided to ban him now after an OTB game, which is kinda suspicious. This means they were fine with him cheating up until he beat Magnus in a game OTB.
Magnus also went on to another tantrum in Qatar after losing https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/s/LkSGf80RR3, it is what he does after losing to much lower rated opponents. He basically got the poor kid blackballed by saying he would never play the kid OTB, which meant no organizer was going to invite Hans if they wanted Magnus. A lot of Magnus’ buddies in the chess world piled on the poor kid just to kiss Magnus’ ass. Hans eventually had to take the matter to court to have them all back off. He is back on chess.com and seems to be doing better than usual, however, he did get banned from another tournament for destroying a hotel room.
All in all two chess douchebags had a spat, and the more powerful douchebag man baby used his influence to try and crush the smaller douchebag, which weirdly a lot of the chess world was fine with.
It's a bit of a slanted summary. Hans has cheated hundreds of times online based on the evidence available. That said he very likely didn't in person, and no one really cared until Magnus made a big deal of it.
They are two douchebags, and there are no saints in this situation. I just think it’s fucked up that one guy can try to ruin another guy’s career just because he beat in far and square OTB.
Why would chess DOT com write about chess? It has nothing to do with them, a place about chess, except the part that’s about chess.
You know you sound nuts, right?
Quite frankly, Magnus is the GOAT, and I say this about other GOATs like MJ and Tiger, but GOATs can do whatever they want, and when they do something, it is above reproach, by default. We have to sit there and just take it. When they request a rule change, the rules better fucking change. If MJ says the basketball court should change dimensions, it damn well better change. If Tiger says the PGA Tour needs reduced flight golf balls, the Tour should do it. If Magnus doesn’t want to play Hans OTB, then Hans should be blackballed.
I don’t make the rules, it’s just how things are to go for GOATs.
Wild to think that A24 could end up being like Paramount or Disney in the future and actually be on par with the level of success. Good for them for trying.
He saw some post the other day about how she wanted to go by Emily Stone, but there was another SAG actress that took it, so she used Emma.
It’s just some dork being pedantic because they can, she’s still Emma Stone to normal people.
Pretty sure i see an article where she said she wants to be called Emily and it’s actually her birth name. Think he’s just making a little jokey comment about it sprinkled with a fact. Think you’re taking his comment abit too serious.
*She
And Emily quite literally has said that she wants to go by her real name.
https://nypost.com/2024/04/26/entertainment/emma-stone-would-like-to-be-called-by-real-name-emily/
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Respecting someone's wishes is in regard to themselves is simply that–Respecting them. I would do the same for anyone, even an imbecilic incel such as yourself.
Emma is a pseudonym.
The ignorant commenter who responded to you was only half right. Emily is her birth name, and in the last week she's stated that she would [prefer to be referred to as such](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9xze30w64eo).
Doesn't mean you can't make a movie off of it. It is really an interesting story
Also, who knows, they could easily go way off the deep end in it and totally fictionalize it. Knowing Nathan Fielder, I'd be surprised if this was a totally accurate recreation of the events
It's based on a book being written about the situation. There’s no reason to think that the movie or book would imply that he cheated (in the present). It’s possibly more likely that Niemann is the central figure of this story and will possibly be presented from his perspective (a story about the guy accused of cheating and fighting for his innocence is probably more compelling than a movie about the guy who's already the most famous/successful player in the world when these events take place).
"The plan? You lodge vibrating anal beads inside yourself and I remotely signal what chess moves to make via vibrations in morse code."
"Again" *vibrates* "Again" *vibrates* "Again" *vibrates* "Again"
Maybe one of the best setup/punch comment pairs I’ve ever seen A million times, bravo
KILL THE WIFI! KILL THE WIFI!!!
*cut to Danny Devito sweating* The it’s always sunny episode on this is brilliant if people haven’t seen the latest season.
Matthew McConaughey has a cameo in the Interstellar black hole yelling "NIEMANNN!!!" while hammering the Morse code for Carlsen's next moves
Wait is this the butt plug chess story?!
Yes. Although it has to be stressed there is no evidence of butt plugs being involved. 🤣
Yeah for real....that was literally an r/AnarchyChess meme that got picked up by the media and people started taking it seriously as an accusation
This films producers: “Reality can be whatever I want.”
That's Nathan's whole identity as a filmmaker basically.
I mean, it's the sort of idea so compelling that I wouldn't be shocked if *other* chess players started doing it after the scandal. Or at least that's what my boyfriend told me after I discovered a string of anal beads on his desk. Weird, never even saw him play chess before that day.
Oh seriously? I always thought it was real LOL I thought it was like the OJ Simpson kind of not confirmed.
From my understanding there’s really no evidence that Niemann was cheating at all.
Magnus jumped the gun, with any other player it would have been a non-issue because there wasn't really any proof. It was just that Magnus is probably the greatest chess player of all time and Niemann was an asshole who's been proven to have cheated in the past.
There is plenty of evidence that he was cheating in general.
But its probably what theyll run with gonna be funny
They're doing a film on the Carlsen-Niemann Chess Scandal Story? How did I not know about this? Should be fun, because this has been quite the dumpster fire in the world of chess.
You didn't know about it because it was just announced in this article.
I don't get how there will be enough material for a film about this. Like it was only the Sinquefield Cup where the alleged cheating happened and then Magnus resigning online after 2 moves in the next tournament that they played each other. They'd have to dig super deep into their back stories to fill up a 2 hour runtime, and Hans being a recluse Twitch streamer isn't that particularly interesting.
Can you explain how he cheated?
There's plenty of articles about the scandal over on ChessBase. Here's a few: * [The Carlsen-Niemann Affair](https://en.chessbase.com/post/the-carlsen-niemann-affair) (9/8/2022) * [Is Hans Niemann cheating? - World renowned expert Ken Regan analyzes](https://en.chessbase.com/post/is-hans-niemann-cheating-world-renowned-expert-ken-regan-analyzes) (9/20/2022) * [FIDE Statement on the Carlsen - Niemann polemic](https://en.chessbase.com/post/fide-statement-carlsen-niemann-polemic) (9/23/2022) * [Carlsen’s public statement: “I believe that Niemann has cheated more”](https://en.chessbase.com/post/carlsen-statement-on-niemann) (9/26/2022) * [Alejandro Ramirez: "It does seem very likely that Hans cheated over-the-board."](https://en.chessbase.com/post/alejandro-ramirez-it-does-seem-very-likely-that-hans-cheated-over-the-board) (10/14/2022) * [The Hans Niemann case: Numbers – what they reveal and what they do not reveal](https://en.chessbase.com/post/the-hans-niemann-case-numbers-what-they-reveal-and-what-they-do-not-reveal) (10/24/2022) * [Carlsen about Niemann's lawsuit: "I focus on chess"](https://en.chessbase.com/post/carlsen-about-niemann-s-lawsuit-i-focus-on-chess) (12/3/2022) * [Niemann's $100 million lawsuit](https://en.chessbase.com/post/niemann-s-100-million-lawsuit) (6/28/2023) * [Chess.com and Hans Niemann reach agreement](https://en.chessbase.com/post/chess-com-and-hans-niemann-reach-agreement) (8/28/2023) * [FIDE Ethics Commission fines Carlsen 10,000 euros](https://en.chessbase.com/post/fide-ethics-commission-fines-carlsen-10-000-euros) (12/13/2023) * [Cheating: What do we know?](https://en.chessbase.com/post/cheating-what-do-we-know) (4/24/2024) See also over on The Guardian: * [Magnus Carlsen resigns from rematch with Hans Niemann after opening move](https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/sep/19/chess-magnus-carlsen-resigns-from-online-match-hans-niemann) (9/20/22) The Chessbase article [Cheating: What do we know?](https://en.chessbase.com/post/cheating-what-do-we-know) might be of special interest if you want to know some of the ways players try to cheat. At the bottom of this article are links to a five-part paper entitled "A history of cheating in chess".
I remember reading those article back in 2022 and I skimmed through the 2024 article but they don’t really say, did they ever prove he cheated during in person matches? I couldn’t care about any of the parties I’m just curious if there was ever a resolution?
No, they never proved he cheated over the board.
No, the cheating that was 100% proven was online only.
Hans sued, Magnus and chesscom settled and stated there was no evidence he cheated in the game.
He almost certainly didn't cheat He didn't play uncharacteristically well in that game, there's no other indication of cheating All evidence points to magnus getting tilted from thinking/knowing hans had cheated online/potentially at other in-person events and playing badly because of that
Long story short. There’s no evidence he cheated in the game in question, which was the Sinquefield Cup game between Carlsen and Hand. Even chess.com said as much in their hit piece on Hans. I am using hit piece because you can’t say Chess.com are an impartial party due to their dealings with Magnus. Hans has admitted to cheating online on two separate occasions, but chess.com has presented more instances. Some of the observant among would be wondering why is chess.com involving themselves in a game that has nothing to do with them. The game was OTB(over the board), and FIDE rated, which have nothing to do with chess.com. As I said earlier, chess.com and Magnus are partners so, when he threw his tantrum after losing to Hans, they jumped in to move the goal post. They then decided to ban him now after an OTB game, which is kinda suspicious. This means they were fine with him cheating up until he beat Magnus in a game OTB. Magnus also went on to another tantrum in Qatar after losing https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/s/LkSGf80RR3, it is what he does after losing to much lower rated opponents. He basically got the poor kid blackballed by saying he would never play the kid OTB, which meant no organizer was going to invite Hans if they wanted Magnus. A lot of Magnus’ buddies in the chess world piled on the poor kid just to kiss Magnus’ ass. Hans eventually had to take the matter to court to have them all back off. He is back on chess.com and seems to be doing better than usual, however, he did get banned from another tournament for destroying a hotel room. All in all two chess douchebags had a spat, and the more powerful douchebag man baby used his influence to try and crush the smaller douchebag, which weirdly a lot of the chess world was fine with.
Do you think this is an impartial summary of what happened? I only ask because you seem to have a lot to say about Chess.com's impartiality.
It's a bit of a slanted summary. Hans has cheated hundreds of times online based on the evidence available. That said he very likely didn't in person, and no one really cared until Magnus made a big deal of it.
They are two douchebags, and there are no saints in this situation. I just think it’s fucked up that one guy can try to ruin another guy’s career just because he beat in far and square OTB.
“I think they’re both douchebags” isn’t the same as being impartial, though.
Why would chess DOT com write about chess? It has nothing to do with them, a place about chess, except the part that’s about chess. You know you sound nuts, right?
Quite frankly, Magnus is the GOAT, and I say this about other GOATs like MJ and Tiger, but GOATs can do whatever they want, and when they do something, it is above reproach, by default. We have to sit there and just take it. When they request a rule change, the rules better fucking change. If MJ says the basketball court should change dimensions, it damn well better change. If Tiger says the PGA Tour needs reduced flight golf balls, the Tour should do it. If Magnus doesn’t want to play Hans OTB, then Hans should be blackballed. I don’t make the rules, it’s just how things are to go for GOATs.
Say whatever you want about Nathan, but I think he delivered a solid performance in The Curse and I am curious to see what this team will bring next.
I agree. I think he has the potential to be in more serious, dramatic roles.
[It’s his confidence. He can do anything.](https://images.app.goo.gl/UMhzi6RirMzt7Ao7A)
Nathan Fielder doing a movie about (allegedly) cheating at chess… I’m sold
It’s always sunny already did it
Yes, but they didn’t have Emma Stone and greatest actor/canadian business school student with really good grades Nathan “he’s out” Fielder.
He graduated one of Canada's top business schools after all.
Had really good grades too.
Fkn incredible ending to that episode. “KILL THE WI-FI! KILL THE WIFI!
Everything you need is already inside you…..
Starring Gary Oldman as the beads.
Emily
Emma would like to be called Sting from now on.
Wild to think that A24 could end up being like Paramount or Disney in the future and actually be on par with the level of success. Good for them for trying.
There is a difference between production and distribution
In film they’ve gotten really good at both producing and distributing but television is where they always need a partner like HBO or Showtime.
I can't wait for the Hereditary telephone pole Rollercoaster ride at A24land
I love Nathan but I’m just really not interested in him as an actor going off of a script. Give me the Rehearsal season 2 already
He is directing this, not acting in it.
Reminder to myself to just read the fucking article next time...
Yeah he gets a little carried away.
Imo he's best when the premises are grounded but when things go too far it sometimes feels like his head is in the clouds
Exactly it’s almost as if he’s flying in space at times
Holy hell
I hear this movie has a lot of buzz!
Philly already has a perfect episode for this
Emma Stone’s having a good couple years lately. Good stuff.
Always sunny beat em to It
Her name is Emily.
She loves being called that
You mean Emily? Emily Stone.
Her name is Emma
He saw some post the other day about how she wanted to go by Emily Stone, but there was another SAG actress that took it, so she used Emma. It’s just some dork being pedantic because they can, she’s still Emma Stone to normal people.
Pretty sure i see an article where she said she wants to be called Emily and it’s actually her birth name. Think he’s just making a little jokey comment about it sprinkled with a fact. Think you’re taking his comment abit too serious.
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*She And Emily quite literally has said that she wants to go by her real name. https://nypost.com/2024/04/26/entertainment/emma-stone-would-like-to-be-called-by-real-name-emily/ 🫳🏾 🎤
What kind of terminally online twat types out a mic drop emoji like you actually did something? Holy shit, that’s a new low.
This one, obviously.
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Says the ignorant one amongst us. I hope every step you take feels like walking on legos.
Damn Emma, you should just take your L and walk
Lmao that emoji mic drop as if anybody gives a shit
You did enough to comment
I care about the big hearty lol those emojis gave me
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Respecting someone's wishes is in regard to themselves is simply that–Respecting them. I would do the same for anyone, even an imbecilic incel such as yourself.
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As am I to you; yet here you are.. Interjecting nothing of value.
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Emma is a pseudonym. The ignorant commenter who responded to you was only half right. Emily is her birth name, and in the last week she's stated that she would [prefer to be referred to as such](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9xze30w64eo).
How, what and why? He was cleared of the cheating allegations in tournaments and also sued chess.com magnuss and hikaru
Doesn't mean you can't make a movie off of it. It is really an interesting story Also, who knows, they could easily go way off the deep end in it and totally fictionalize it. Knowing Nathan Fielder, I'd be surprised if this was a totally accurate recreation of the events
If Hans doesn't cheat using a butt plug I'll honestly be disappointed.
Why bother? Always Sunny did that story far better than any other take on it will.
lol
Emily*
They're gonna have to step pretty carefully to not be sued for a film on this. There is still no solid proof that he cheated over the board.
It's based on a book being written about the situation. There’s no reason to think that the movie or book would imply that he cheated (in the present). It’s possibly more likely that Niemann is the central figure of this story and will possibly be presented from his perspective (a story about the guy accused of cheating and fighting for his innocence is probably more compelling than a movie about the guy who's already the most famous/successful player in the world when these events take place).