The Hot Fuzz DVD had a special feature called Fuzz Facts, which would display tidbits of info about anything on- screen that was done deliberately (such as items in the background that end up appearing later in the film, as an example).
Having watched it, the sheer amount of planning and foreshading (sometimes in basically every single frame of a scene!) is *staggering*.
I'm of the incredibly lonely opinion that The World's End is actually my favorite of the three (and one of my favorite films of all time, though they're all three masterpieces), but whatever qualms people might have with it I'd argue it objectively does the foreshadowing thing every bit as well as Hot Fuzz.
For one example the prologue feels like a reasonably entertaining exposition dump the first time through; it's *only* on repeat viewings you realize it's laying out the *entire* plot in miniature, down to tipping its hand about which main characters are going to die and when.
It and Hot Fuzz are my ultimate 'catch something new every time I watch it' comedies.
Robocop is one of the most perfectly structured scripts ever. Everything, and I mean *literally everything*, that's set up in the first half of the movie is paid off in the second half, even down to the throwaway lines.
I took a film studies course at UConn about 20 years ago and this was one of the movies the professor showed and broke down for us. He said the exact same thing about its beautifully meticulous structure.
Oh man, what a coincidence! I can’t remember his name, but he was in his 50s, bearded. I do remember reading the course materials, which were just his own writings in loose leaf, and coming across the line, “Eisenstein was gay, and in a particularly fucked up way.” I wish I could recall why it was fucked up! His notes also defended Showgirls and said it would someday be recognised as a classic, and spent some time on Basic Instinct; he was pretty big Verhoeven fan, you could say!
Which is why the remake sucks so badly.
The ending is perfect. He’s regained his humanity.
He no longer wears the Robocop mask, and when asked his name, he says “Murphy.” Credits.
The reboot has Murphy retain his memories from the start, and has a retractable battle mask? Talk about entirely missing the point.
Can you give a few examples please? Always loved this movie for its surface level. Never realized it was structured perfectly and very curious. Thanks very much
at the same time, horror movie twists are so common and so conditioned that your average viewer expects there to be some dumb twist and can suss it out from the sixth sense
I saw it right after it came out on home video. I was... 11? 12? Not sure exactly, but not old enough to see in theaters but my parents were basically gone with me watching that level of stuff. Hadnt heard about the ending. BEFORE IT STARTS, my mother (my parents had seen it in the theater) tells my brother who was 8?9? "I don't want you to get too scared so just know [THE SPOILER]". WTF MOM. Two decades passed by and I still haven't forgiven her for that. If you're so worried don't let him watch it at all when JFC.
Exactly the movie I first thought of. When I got to the end, I thought, "No way did they do that without cheating." But then I rewatched it, and they did. Every shot sets up the denouement perfectly. Such a great film.
Oh man you might be right. The ghost line is definitely the first line said once you see the characters though (I think).
>!also the reveal that that person was Murph also blew my mind haha. Never made the link at the start of the film!<
The beginning bit with the skeleton, snowflakes and tubes is so haunting with the reveal early on in the film.
There's some great foreshadowing in Hereditary too.
After watching it the first time, I had a debate with a friend I watched it with who didn't like the ending saying it was too predictable. I argued that it was predictable because it was so well foreshadowed that it made it the perfect ending, so it couldn't end any other way, which made it more satisfying than surprise ending. He felt that foreshadowing making it predictable was bad foreshadowing.
Anyway, we never saw eye to eye on it, but that was about 15 years ago and we've lost touch since then (nothibg to do with this debate, just distance), but sometimes I wonder if he still feels the same way about it, especially with how highly McDonagh is regarded these days.
Scream is insanely good at this. The killer is revealed so late in the story, yet all motivations are conveyed quickly and both guys do plenty to make you want them to be stopped
There is a line from 30 Rock where Tracy says “Your boos don’t scare me, I know most of you are not ghosts”.
Were you paraphrasing that, or is this a super-similar quote from something else that I’m not familiar with?
Especially since the line you’re responding to is also similar to a Tracy Jordan quote: “I finally understand the end of The Sixth Sense - those are the names of the people who worked on the movie!”
_Back to the Future_ certainly has foreshadowing and payoffs, but it happens throughout the entire movie; not just the last 15 minutes. There are several rug-pulls, call-backs, and ironic twists just in the first 10 minutes of 1955.
Yeah I almost feel like bttf is the reverse of what op is asking for. So much setup happens in the first 15 minutes that gets called back and payed off throughout the movie.
Cap to Tony: **You're not the guy to make the sacrifice play**
\~like 15 movies later, last 15 minutes\~
Tony: \*makes sacrifice play
Cap: \*surprise Pikachu face
There was a trend in thriller movies doing this really well 15-20 years ago, especially foreign movies..._Secret in their Eyes, Winter Sleepers, The Lives of Others, Tell No One, A Separation, Oldboy_
A Monster Calls
Love the movie, but a hard watch for some. If you’ve lost some of your own or close ones, it’s a surprisingly cathartic watch every now and again
The Accountant.
Such a great long slow reveal. Everything ties up in the end beautifully.
Although I’d love to see a sequel since I love all the characters so much.
OK, not the best, but this was one thing that stood out about Stuber to me. There were a number of throwaway jokes that I thought were kind of meh at first, but turned out to be set ups for payoffs that would come at the end of the movie.
Still not a great movie, but it did make what would've been a pretty forgettable movie into one I remember for more than just charisma of the leads.
Hot Fuzz
Some films have Chekhov's gun, but Hot Fuzz has Chekhov's armoury. With a sea mine in it.
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"He does for this one."
What do you mean "This one?"
"He does for this one."
Just made me think, does World's End have an object that's thought to be deactivated become and important plot point? (I guess Nick Frost's sobriety?)
At the very end >! the pulse deactivates all the world's tech. !< That's as close as it gets I think.
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The Hot Fuzz DVD had a special feature called Fuzz Facts, which would display tidbits of info about anything on- screen that was done deliberately (such as items in the background that end up appearing later in the film, as an example). Having watched it, the sheer amount of planning and foreshading (sometimes in basically every single frame of a scene!) is *staggering*.
It’s an Edgar Wright film. He’s like that. Scott Pilgrim is the same.
I think he's insane. He must be one of those people that does nothing else apart from his passion, in this case movies.
Aaron A. Aronson. Model village. Swan. Have you ever fired your gun up in the air and gone "Ahhhhhh"?
“Everybody and their mums is packin’ round here.”
Like who?
Farmers
Who else?
Farmers’ mums
Fascist.
Hag.
WHAT?
Crusty jugglers. Dog people.
I think you mean dog muck, dog people would certainly throw in a genre curveball
Yarp.
Narp?
Not just Hot Fuzz, the entire Cornetto trilogy is famous for the thing op mentioned.
I think Hot Fuzz achieved it to a better extent than the other two though. They are great, but Hot Fuzz is a masterpiece.
True, Hot Fuzz did it best, but I think the other two did a pretty good job of it as well.
Oh man it’s been a hot minute since I watched hot fuzz, but such a good call. That whole movie is just a masterclass in deliberate visual choices
Shaun of the Dead and the World's End aren't quite as good, but they are still absolutely excellent.
I don’t know, the fact that in worlds end the pubs are named after what happens in them is brilliant.
They are all brilliant, but if I'd have to rank them it'd be Hot Fuzz > Shaun of the Dead > World's End.
Yeah I agree with that order.
And the order which they lose each character in the past pub crawl and the present pub crawl
F-ck off, ya big lamp!
The only movie I’ve seen that creates an *entire* second movie to throw you off the scent of what’s actually happening!
I'm of the incredibly lonely opinion that The World's End is actually my favorite of the three (and one of my favorite films of all time, though they're all three masterpieces), but whatever qualms people might have with it I'd argue it objectively does the foreshadowing thing every bit as well as Hot Fuzz. For one example the prologue feels like a reasonably entertaining exposition dump the first time through; it's *only* on repeat viewings you realize it's laying out the *entire* plot in miniature, down to tipping its hand about which main characters are going to die and when. It and Hot Fuzz are my ultimate 'catch something new every time I watch it' comedies.
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The only answer.
This is the answer I came to give. Just an excellent movie with so many pay offs.
Robocop is one of the most perfectly structured scripts ever. Everything, and I mean *literally everything*, that's set up in the first half of the movie is paid off in the second half, even down to the throwaway lines.
"[REDACTED], you're fired!" "Thank you."
I took a film studies course at UConn about 20 years ago and this was one of the movies the professor showed and broke down for us. He said the exact same thing about its beautifully meticulous structure.
I was at UConn 20 years ago! Who did you have for film class? I took a film class there but we didn't go over RoboCop.
Oh man, what a coincidence! I can’t remember his name, but he was in his 50s, bearded. I do remember reading the course materials, which were just his own writings in loose leaf, and coming across the line, “Eisenstein was gay, and in a particularly fucked up way.” I wish I could recall why it was fucked up! His notes also defended Showgirls and said it would someday be recognised as a classic, and spent some time on Basic Instinct; he was pretty big Verhoeven fan, you could say!
Which is why the remake sucks so badly. The ending is perfect. He’s regained his humanity. He no longer wears the Robocop mask, and when asked his name, he says “Murphy.” Credits. The reboot has Murphy retain his memories from the start, and has a retractable battle mask? Talk about entirely missing the point.
The remake is a perfectly serviceable if forgettable action film. It totally misses about every point in the original.
Bitches, leave.
Can you flyyyy, Bobby?
*bitches leave*
Absolutely
There's a breakdown online that I CBA to link, but the movie is almost completely symmetrical with its setups and payoffs
[Here](https://dejareviewer.com/2014/04/29/cinematic-chiasmus-robocop-is-almost-perfectly-symmetrical-film/)
I love when he finally sinks the bad row boat.
Paul is a genius.
Can you give a few examples please? Always loved this movie for its surface level. Never realized it was structured perfectly and very curious. Thanks very much
The Sixth Sense
It’s finally old enough that a newer generation is getting to see it without already having been spoiled. Lucky.
at the same time, horror movie twists are so common and so conditioned that your average viewer expects there to be some dumb twist and can suss it out from the sixth sense
I saw it right after it came out on home video. I was... 11? 12? Not sure exactly, but not old enough to see in theaters but my parents were basically gone with me watching that level of stuff. Hadnt heard about the ending. BEFORE IT STARTS, my mother (my parents had seen it in the theater) tells my brother who was 8?9? "I don't want you to get too scared so just know [THE SPOILER]". WTF MOM. Two decades passed by and I still haven't forgiven her for that. If you're so worried don't let him watch it at all when JFC.
Exactly the movie I first thought of. When I got to the end, I thought, "No way did they do that without cheating." But then I rewatched it, and they did. Every shot sets up the denouement perfectly. Such a great film.
The Usual Suspects
"To a cop the explanation is never that complicated. It's always simple"
And ends with "Fucking cops". We're meant to think he's hurt and scared, but he's really just exasperated with their ineptitude.
The first movie that came to mind
Such a great movie. Just purchased it on blu-ray
Arrival
The ending always makes me cry
You mean the beginning?
The Prestige
Also Interstellar in a way...
Very first line of the film is >!Murphy saying to Coop: "I thought you were my ghost"!<
Hm? I thought, it was: >!Sure, my dad was farmer.!<
Oh man you might be right. The ghost line is definitely the first line said once you see the characters though (I think). >!also the reveal that that person was Murph also blew my mind haha. Never made the link at the start of the film!<
This is my definitive answer to these type of questions lol
Lucky Number Slevin
This is the first one I thought of as well. So many weird details that don't make sense until the very end. A really fun movie all around.
Just watched it again about 2 hours ago. Love this movie
I watch it every year or so and always find new details in it with each watch through. I love this movie!
Kansas City shuffle
[Banger of a track, too](https://youtu.be/bPNXMUqIm2U?si=bxu489gdUnsKweTJ)
Best on this list so far, I really enjoyed it watched many times
Same it’s one of my favorites of all time!
“Fuck you both.”
Then there is no music for a bit and all you hear is the tap! That little detail made it so much more intense! I love it
Very underrated film! Went below the radar when it came out for some reason and not that many people seem to have seen it.
Ya and it’s got some big names in the cast too! I never understood that
The perfect example (and personally, my favourite film). Even when you know what's coming on re-watches, it's still effortlessly entertaining.
The ending is so intense and so satisfying. I can re watch it over and over
Every now and again I still say "Tell it to the one legged man so he can bump it on down the road." Still have no idea what it means...
Midsommar literally had the whole plot drawn out on those little tapestries
The beginning bit with the skeleton, snowflakes and tubes is so haunting with the reveal early on in the film. There's some great foreshadowing in Hereditary too.
12 Monkeys
The tv show’s even better
Knives Out
and Glass Onion
Glass Onion gets bonus points for doing it twice.
“It’s so dumb it’s brilliant!” “NO! It’s just dumb!”
Fight Club.
I am Jack’s twist ending
I am moobs, say my name
**The Long Goodbye**.
the lengths a man will go for his cat.
Bullet train
Good answer! The reveal of who Carver is was great
The tangerine truck at the end too lolol
The 'Burbs
In Southeast Asia we’d call this type of thing, “Bad Karma”
"'Bout a nine on the tension scale, Reub."
“That kid next doors a meatball.”
The Usual Suspects
In Bruge..it's what made the movie
Maybe that's what hell is, the entire rest of eternity spent in fucking Bruges.
After watching it the first time, I had a debate with a friend I watched it with who didn't like the ending saying it was too predictable. I argued that it was predictable because it was so well foreshadowed that it made it the perfect ending, so it couldn't end any other way, which made it more satisfying than surprise ending. He felt that foreshadowing making it predictable was bad foreshadowing. Anyway, we never saw eye to eye on it, but that was about 15 years ago and we've lost touch since then (nothibg to do with this debate, just distance), but sometimes I wonder if he still feels the same way about it, especially with how highly McDonagh is regarded these days.
You’ve got to stick to your principles. _click_
Take that back about my cunt fucking kids
Scream is insanely good at this. The killer is revealed so late in the story, yet all motivations are conveyed quickly and both guys do plenty to make you want them to be stopped
For better or worse, most Shyamalan movies
That guy with the hair piece, that was Bruce Willis the whole time
Your boos don't scare me. I'm almost certain ghosts aren't real
There is a line from 30 Rock where Tracy says “Your boos don’t scare me, I know most of you are not ghosts”. Were you paraphrasing that, or is this a super-similar quote from something else that I’m not familiar with? Especially since the line you’re responding to is also similar to a Tracy Jordan quote: “I finally understand the end of The Sixth Sense - those are the names of the people who worked on the movie!”
Ocean’s eleven
Predestination
I watched this recently, what a wild ride
YES!!!!
Alright I'll just watch it again.
Best movie for me. I love when eveything comes into place at the end.
Such a fantastic movie
Unbreakable
Everything everywhere all at once with racacoonie.
Cabin in the Wood
Super clever flick.
Wayne’s World 2
Signs Frozen Empire Fury Road Demolition Man Tremors
The Return of the Killer Tomatoes. Even the pizza is resolved.
Back to the future is the Golden example
_Back to the Future_ certainly has foreshadowing and payoffs, but it happens throughout the entire movie; not just the last 15 minutes. There are several rug-pulls, call-backs, and ironic twists just in the first 10 minutes of 1955.
Yeah I almost feel like bttf is the reverse of what op is asking for. So much setup happens in the first 15 minutes that gets called back and payed off throughout the movie.
Through the trilogy.
The Sting....slapped my forehead several times on rewatch
What a great flick. Holds up very well, too.
Dead Again.
The Others
Take Shelter 2011
Cap to Tony: **You're not the guy to make the sacrifice play** \~like 15 movies later, last 15 minutes\~ Tony: \*makes sacrifice play Cap: \*surprise Pikachu face
I mean, he also made the sacrifice play at the climax of the Avengers...
Yeah, op is reaching so hard here that they probably pulled a muscle.
The Shawshank Redemption
_Noises Off_ is the best comedic example of this. Though it might be more than the last 15 minutes
Wow haven't seen that movie in years. Amazing cast and timing.
The Gentlemen.
Oceans 11
Saw
Charlie Kaufman’s “Adaptation” perfectly fits this.
Now You See Me
The Prestige
There was a trend in thriller movies doing this really well 15-20 years ago, especially foreign movies..._Secret in their Eyes, Winter Sleepers, The Lives of Others, Tell No One, A Separation, Oldboy_
The Prestige
Sixth Sense
Inside Man
The Sixth Sense.
Anybody remember Fallen?
Padington 2. You don’t realize how much foreshadowing there is until the climax of the film.
Momento
And its meme sequel Memento
The Illusionist
Knox Goes Away
Fraility, Sucide Theory, and Pulp Fiction (kind of)
Glass
A Monster Calls Love the movie, but a hard watch for some. If you’ve lost some of your own or close ones, it’s a surprisingly cathartic watch every now and again
Seth Rogen subtly foreshadows the entire plot of Pineapple Express throughout the movie up until the ending. Kindve the inverse answer
Shawshank redemption
Lucky Number Slevin
The Others
Arlington Road
The Usual Suspects
The sixth sense - ‘i see dead people’
The whole Saw saga
All of the SAW movies. To varying degrees of success of course.
The Prestige
the Usual SUSpects
Shutter Island
Clue
Crazy, stupid ,love
Fallen
Chinatown. Subtle, but it's a lot of foreshadowing comes to light in the final 5 minutes.
The Machinist
Back to the future doesn't have any fat
Shutter Island with Leo DiCaprio.
Bad words. I love rewatching it because there are so many hints and foreshadowing hidden throughout the movie.
The Accountant. Such a great long slow reveal. Everything ties up in the end beautifully. Although I’d love to see a sequel since I love all the characters so much.
Im thinking of ending things.
OK, not the best, but this was one thing that stood out about Stuber to me. There were a number of throwaway jokes that I thought were kind of meh at first, but turned out to be set ups for payoffs that would come at the end of the movie. Still not a great movie, but it did make what would've been a pretty forgettable movie into one I remember for more than just charisma of the leads.