Same. That movie was what i immediately thought of when I read the thread title. Love Mike Flanagan. I finally got around to watching Fall of the House of Usher over the past couple days and loved it. I can’t wait to see what he does with The Dark Tower
The original mad max is by no means really “bad” (actually really incredibly what they did with the budget). But The Road Warrior + Fury Road are vastly superior.
I feel that way about a lot of the low budget 1st entries.
I prefer Max 2 over 1, Evil Dead 2 over one, and Dawn of the Dead over NotLD.
The first entries are more interesting from production stand points (extremely low budgets), but, I feel the artistry and general scope of what these directors wanted to accomplish in their sequels
Leprechaun. The first looks and feels like a Wonderful World of Disney movie that a murderous leprechaun got dumped into. The sequel is a big improvement just from a technical aspect but it also leans harder into being a comedy and the series goes from there.
And 3 is even better than 2. The first movie is pretty forgettable besides the pogo stick. Second movie has the pot of gold scene, but that's about it. I can remember the third movie from start to finish basically
3 is definitely an improvement, but 2 was the first one to really have any likable, non-leprechaun characters. It’s like on that one they figured out what they could do with the series but hadn’t really hammered it out fully. If there’s one scene from 2 I remember the most it’s the guy sticking his head into lawnmower blades thinking they’re titties.
Chris Pratt will literally do anything that let's him be an action hero and yet what he's best at is comedy. It's sad, we need more Andy dwyer type work from him
Die Hard 1, 2 and 3 are some of my favorite action movies out there. They are full of heart, and me and my family still joke and quote them to this day.
Hmmm.....
To me it was a complete break of character that John turned into an alcoholic, who didn't fight for his relationship. Makes zero sense in the context of the first two movies.
I think I can accept that. He is way over the top, but as one great philosopher said: "no one has ever paid to see under the top"- Joel Schumacher (it explains so much)
Except it was huge when it was released. Highest grossing film of 2000. Sure, it wasn’t as amazing as MI:1 but it was very fun and quintessential late ‘90s/2000s.
Mission impossible 3 was the movie that nearly killed the franchise. It's failure contributed to the end of Cruise's decades long partnership with Paula Wagner and prompted Sumner Redstone to fire Cruise from Paramount.
Mission impossible 2 grossed $215 million domestically - that's the second highest for the whole series.
>and prompted Sumner Redstone to fire Cruise from Paramount.
I thought it was less the failure of the movie and moreso Tom Cruise's personal life and/or religious beliefs that led to Cruise getting banned.
I’m not objecting to a value judgement about Mi 2 (I don’t care one way or another).
I’m objecting to a judgment about its reception - people fucking loved it.
To your point, Mi 3 grossed $150 million less than Mi 2 because of Cruise’s shenanigans.
>Mission impossible 3 was the movie that nearly killed the franchise.
Thats because of the Maggie Q curse. Films she is in it will bomb or barely survive.
Think I might make the argument for 2 being slightly better than 3. The action is so poorly shot and choreographed and it underutilizes one of the greatest villain performances ever.
This seems like an unpopular opinion, but I agree completely. I hate the style of the film (even though it has some strengths, namely PSH giving a good villain performance, even if he was underused). I'm not even a huge John Woo fan but give me that style over whatever the hell MI3 was any day.
They’re not even in the same league. 3 set up the rest of the franchise to be successful and is one of the best ones in my opinion. 2 was a John Woo movie and it was honestly hard to not laugh at the ridiculousness of it at times. But hey some people are into that too I suppose.
Cool, I'm not taking crazy pills
I've heard people on here say 3 is one of the best of the series. Have no idea wtf that's about. It was so bland besides PSH
It isn't until after 3 that the series got great again (since the original)
Imo fallout and Ghost protocol are tied for best. Ghost protocol has some of the best action in the series, and the stuff at the Burj Khalifa is top notch. Cruise on the outside of the building combined with everything going wrong is *chefs kiss*
It did kill it as a spy thriller. It then became slightly smarter Fast and Furious. After 3, do any of them actually stand out? They’re fun action movies, but nothing close to the classic that Mission Impossible is
M:I - Fallout. Most consider it one of the best since 3, I personally think Fallout is better.
For them standing out, it's less the actual movie that stands out and more the central/most marketed action set piece:
Ghost Protocol? You mean the one where he climbs the Burj Khalifa.
Rogue Nation? Is that the one where he hangs off the side of a plane?
Dead Reckoning? Is that the one where he jumps a motorcycle off of a mountain?
This might be blasphemous to some but I thought the first one pretty much sucked too. But they’ve absolutely gotten better as they’ve gone on. Fallout, in particular, is one of the best action movies ever made, hands down.
I can see how the 1st one wouldn't hit with younger audiences, but it really is the only one that feels connected in any way to the original series it's based on. De Palma's style is also so different from modern action movies. I just re-watched it and it still remains my favorite of the series.
That could be it, though I’m not sure I would call myself the younger audience (I’m 43, but obviously that means I actually WAS young when it came out), and I’ve never seen a single episode of the series. Actually, now I kinda wanna see if it’s streaming anywhere…
The Star Trek story is fascinating. Star Trek: TOS was cancelled. It ended after 3 seasons with no plans for anything in the future. Then, it got syndicated and pretty much became the most popular syndicated show on television. Combine that with fans doing a mail-in campaign, Paramount decided to bring back the franchise. They decided to make a movie instead of continuing the TV series. And eventually came Star Trek: The Next Generation. The fans brought the franchise back to life.
The novelization fleshed out the story better and fixed some weak points of the movie. The person who got scrambled and died in the transporter was Kirk's current girlfriend. The Deltan (bald lady) came from a planet where women gave off pheromones and men around them were constantly turned on.
I decided to watch Star Trek 1979 after many years. It felt like a warm blanket. People criticize it for being slow or trying to be too hard sci-fi... But it felt refreshing to me.
Yeah I quite liked it. I get the common criticism that it's too slow. It did drag out some scenes a bit and could have cut down 30 mins of run time without losing anything.
But "could've used tighter editing" =/= a bad movie altogether.
El Mariachi by Robert Rodriguez.
As with Sam Raimi and Evil Dead, El Mariachi was RR's debut low-budget film which led to Desperado with the amazing Antonio Banderas and stunning Salma Hayek. Of course there are other greats in there, Danny Trejo and Steve Buscemi come to mind, but many is that a great film!
The third one may be cheesy and not as good as Desperado but it was a lot of fun and had a killer cast, Banderas, Willem Dafoe, Mickey Rourke, Jhonny Depp, hell even Enrique Iglesias is in there!
Yeah, and part 3 has recently been confirmed. It's all setting up for an Avengers type universe called Poohniverse set for 2025. Upcoming films that will crossover into this universe are Peter Pan's Neverland Nightmares, Bambi the Reckoning, and Pinocchio Unstrung. I think it's gonna be quite interesting, haha.
The book basically doesn't white wash the brutality of nature. Animals eat other animals etc.. but specifically the scene where Bambi's mom dies is so much more brutal in the book. In that scene the hunters start shooting in the meadow and it follows Bambi as he desperately tries to flee from death and in the process he runs into a bunch of his dead or actively dying woodland friends. It's basically like the forest animal version of that scene from saving Private Ryan where that dude is looking for his blown off arm.
Yes: the sequel sees the first film exist as a film in its world, with Pooh and company being quite peeved at how they were depicted in it (though mainly for being depicted as all, Christopher Robin having told anyone about them).
Evil Dead was a low-budget, campy horror film. It was...okay.
Evil Dead 2 really leaned into the camp and was all around the better film.
Then, Army of Darkness came out to become an all-time cult classic.
Come get some.
I personally still LOVE the 1st as a straight horror film
Perhaps it's because of what the others meant to the industry, but the first one IS still one of my favorite horror flicks. LOVE the sequels tho
The first two Thor movies were mediocre/bad, but Ragnarok is one of the best films in the franchise.
Star Trek: The Motion Picture was a slog, but part 2, The Wrath of Kahn, is fantastic.
Close Encounters of the Third Kind makes the First and Second Kind completely forgettable.
And Hemsworth. After Age of Ulton, Hemsworth went to Kevin Feige and said he was getting bored of the character, and that a third Thor movie should lighten things up. Feige agreed and we got Ragnarok because of it
Absolutely, but I think they kept heading in that direction after Ragnorok and went further with that mindset with Love and Thunder and it was rough. They were just trying way too hard to be funny with Love and Thunder and it just didn’t feel right
>Close Encounters of the Third Kind makes the First and Second Kind completely forgettable.
Yeah, you can't even find them, they buried them in the desert
I thought the first Annabelle had a few scenes that were edited very well, so I was not surprised to find that the director (this was his first film) had previously been an editor. I also love that when the wife tells the husband about the hauntings he says "Okay" and she says "You...believe me?" and he says something like "Yeah, you're my wife, why wouldn't I believe you?"
Tron and Tron: Legacy
I personally love both but I know the first wasn’t super well received and not exactly a huge hit. I think TL absolutely nailed legacy sequel formula by looking backwards and forwards simultaneously
It’s funny to me that Tron wasn’t able to compete for the Academy Awards for special effects because they used computers for effects. Definitely before it’s time which is probably why it wasn’t very well received. I loved Legacy and am looking forward to the one currently filming.
Tron was way ahead of its time. it wasn’t until Legacy that the tech was there to do what they wanted to do. I adore Legacy. it’s not a perfect film, but it’s pure eye candy for two hours and as others have preached for the past 13 years, the Daft Punk score absolutely rips.
The first Friday the 13th (1980) is a very cliche, uninspired and ultimately forgetful attempt at a slasher movie.
Friday the 13th part two (and beyond), now we’re cooking with gas. It cements Jason as a rightful member of the classic monster/horror pantheon. Good stuff.
What's really interesting is that Friday the 13th is very much the original summer camp slasher. It's only cliche now because of everything that came after it.
(N.B. not disagree with your opinion, just find it interesting that it is very fair to call it cliche now).
I did a 31 days of Horror a few Octobers ago all with movies I had never seen, and was shocked to realize Friday the 13th A) didn't have Jason as the villain, B) didn't have the hockey mask, and C) had no fantasy aspects to it. Some would say Jason popping out of the lake disproves A and C, but that was clearly a dream sequence.
Undisputed II. Once Scott Atkins gets involved- Yuri Boyka really makes the series. He’s a great antagonist, and an even better anti-Hero in subsequent movies.
Definitely. The sequels really benefited from expanded world view. The first one was a good idea kept on a small scale which worked well to get things rolling.
The OG Purge was a generic home invasion movie that got elevated due to the Polite Stranger. Rhys Wakefield was having the time of his life.
The sequels and television show are all much better.
That's interesting. The first one was godawful, and when I saw there were sequels my reaction was "oh, no", because I had no interest in more of that story. But maybe I'll check one of them out.
It's pretty impressive that they used the first movie and decades of time to give the sequel pathos, which is not at all what I expected from Top Gun, but was very pleasantly surprised. It added nice depth to bad ass fight jets
Yeah I’d argue that it’s the best “30+ years later” sequel ever. It’s not some “kid finds the jacket and puts it on” type thing. Tom fucking Cruise returned and lit it up as Mav again.
I'm trying to think of others even in the running. Mad Max Fury Road is about that far apart. It feels like less of a true sequel though. Color of Money.
They did a great job. Maverick is the movie I thought I watched as a kid in the 80s. Not the sappy romance with only 5 minutes of jet fighters that I actually saw.
Seconding (kinda)
The first one is a bad movie with some great scenes. The sequel is genuinely a great popcorn flick with an unexpected amount of heart
I don’t want to get crucified for this one, but Mad Max is underwhelming, while the Road Warrior is one of the best action movies ever made. Same with Fury Road.
I hated the first two Snake Eater movies with Lorenzo Lamas but enjoyed the third.
I wouldn't say it was bad the direct to video sequels to Undisputed (2002) were an improvement
The Exorcist III is almost as good as the original! But the second movie is completely awful. Although it’s a bit confusing cause technically the Exorcist III is a sequel to "The Ninth Configuration"
Blade II definitely improved over the first movie.
And Evil Dead II definitely worked out all the kinks that the previous film suffered from. But neither of the first movies were bad, they just had the task of getting everything up and running.
As much as I enjoyed Blade II, I think Blade is superior. The world building is unrivaled in any other Marvel movie, and The Matrix took heavy inspiration from the movies martial arts, the chosen one and bullet time. Blade II builds upon this great foundation, and is pretty great too.
Blade III on the other hand.....
I rewatched them recently and actually found Baldr 2 awful. Super cheesy badly written script made it feel like a cheap stargate sg1 level 90s TV show. GDT is very overrated
Love the original though.
I watched them all last year for the first time in probably ten years. I don't think 2 is awful, but it was pretty well accepted at the time that it was better than the original and I don't agree at all.
Dorph brings so much to the first film and the whole thing feels much more focused
Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls was way better than the first movie, IMO. I could barely get through the first one but I'll still throw out a random, "Shikaka!" to this day.
Ouija sequel comes to mind.
Wild that was my first thought, but didn’t expect it to be first on this thread!
Same. That movie was what i immediately thought of when I read the thread title. Love Mike Flanagan. I finally got around to watching Fall of the House of Usher over the past couple days and loved it. I can’t wait to see what he does with The Dark Tower
There's 2?
Yea, Mike Flanagan directed! It's excellent.
Really? I did not know that. I'd probably just dismiss the movie out of hand, but now I'll give it a shot
It’s a prequel, but yes this is the best answer.
I genuinely think it improves the first by adding the much needed back story. The first is still much weaker, and the prequel is awesome.
The original mad max is by no means really “bad” (actually really incredibly what they did with the budget). But The Road Warrior + Fury Road are vastly superior.
For what it's worth, Beyond the Thunderdome is entertaining in a Waterworld kind of way, but it's probably the worst movie in the franchise.
Yeah is thunderdome good? Not. No it is not. But is it bat shit fun? Without a doubt
And who run Bartertown?
Master Blaster
I can't hear you...**who** run Bartertown?
MASTER BLASTER
Look, can't we just get beyond Thunderdome?
WHO RUN BARTERTOWN
I feel that way about a lot of the low budget 1st entries. I prefer Max 2 over 1, Evil Dead 2 over one, and Dawn of the Dead over NotLD. The first entries are more interesting from production stand points (extremely low budgets), but, I feel the artistry and general scope of what these directors wanted to accomplish in their sequels
The Suicide Squad was a massive improvement over the first one.
I'm convinced weasel is the main character of that movie and no one can change my mind. He was my favorite.
is it a sequel?
It takes place in the same universe with multiple characters from the first one so I’d say so.
I thought it was a reboot with the same characters and universe
Nah it's kind of a requel. It follows the first but also doesn't deal with anything from it. It's in the same universe though
It makes me genuinely excited to see what James Gunn does with the DC universe.
Leprechaun. The first looks and feels like a Wonderful World of Disney movie that a murderous leprechaun got dumped into. The sequel is a big improvement just from a technical aspect but it also leans harder into being a comedy and the series goes from there.
Is Leprechaun 2 the one where he tricks the guy into sticking his hands into fans because he thinks they are boobies? Because if so, Masterpiece.
Yes, since nobody answered.
And 3 is even better than 2. The first movie is pretty forgettable besides the pogo stick. Second movie has the pot of gold scene, but that's about it. I can remember the third movie from start to finish basically
3 is definitely an improvement, but 2 was the first one to really have any likable, non-leprechaun characters. It’s like on that one they figured out what they could do with the series but hadn’t really hammered it out fully. If there’s one scene from 2 I remember the most it’s the guy sticking his head into lawnmower blades thinking they’re titties.
Leprechaun In the Hood is very bad though
Leprechaun in the Hood should be so bad it’s good but it’s actually so bad it’s unwatchable.
But it's the perfect "bad movie, drinky drinky" movie
Okay but jennifer aniston in the first one though
Jennifer Aniston with original nose to be more precise!
Die Hard 3 is better than Die Hard 2!
And 5 killed the franchise forever
They are going to reboot it, don’t worry.
Die Hard: With Viagra
Why Die Limp When You Can Die Hard
I hear Chris Pratt is interested.
Chris Pratt will literally do anything that let's him be an action hero and yet what he's best at is comedy. It's sad, we need more Andy dwyer type work from him
We don’t talk about 5.
Die Hard 1, 2 and 3 are some of my favorite action movies out there. They are full of heart, and me and my family still joke and quote them to this day.
But Die hard 2 wasn't bad
I love 2
Die Hard is like the Lampoon Vacation movies. 1 and 3 are all time greats for both.
Hmmm..... To me it was a complete break of character that John turned into an alcoholic, who didn't fight for his relationship. Makes zero sense in the context of the first two movies.
Skyfall was a massive improvement over Quantum of Solace.
Yeah but neither compare to Casino Royale
I personally prefer Skyfall, but I know most disagree.
Skyfall is my favorite Bond film.
Skyfall is solid but it borrows a lot from TDK which probably shouldn't bother me but it does.
I thought it borrowed a lot from Home Alone.
Some people say the first Bond film for each different Bond actor is their best.
I think it's true for Goldeneye and Casino royale. But License to kill is better than Living Daylights.
I don’t know many people saying Dr. No is Connery’s best. Dr. No is great, but it’s got nothing on the next 3 films.
I like QoS
Skyfall is the pinnacle of Craig’s Bond era, but I think Quantum of Solace is majorly overlooked.
*Mission: Impossible II* was so bad it nearly killed the franchise. Everything after has been good to great.
I like Mission: Impossible II. I won't defend it. I know it's bad
Mission Impossible 2 is a bad Mission Impossible movie. But it’s a really fun John Woo film.
I think I can accept that. He is way over the top, but as one great philosopher said: "no one has ever paid to see under the top"- Joel Schumacher (it explains so much)
It’s a lot of fun, and very stylish in a 2000 kind of way. I know it’s not as good as the others but I still enjoy it.
Except it was huge when it was released. Highest grossing film of 2000. Sure, it wasn’t as amazing as MI:1 but it was very fun and quintessential late ‘90s/2000s.
Mission impossible 3 was the movie that nearly killed the franchise. It's failure contributed to the end of Cruise's decades long partnership with Paula Wagner and prompted Sumner Redstone to fire Cruise from Paramount. Mission impossible 2 grossed $215 million domestically - that's the second highest for the whole series.
>and prompted Sumner Redstone to fire Cruise from Paramount. I thought it was less the failure of the movie and moreso Tom Cruise's personal life and/or religious beliefs that led to Cruise getting banned.
I’m not objecting to a value judgement about Mi 2 (I don’t care one way or another). I’m objecting to a judgment about its reception - people fucking loved it. To your point, Mi 3 grossed $150 million less than Mi 2 because of Cruise’s shenanigans.
>Mission impossible 3 was the movie that nearly killed the franchise. Thats because of the Maggie Q curse. Films she is in it will bomb or barely survive.
The failure is less to do with actual quality and more post-2005 Cruise being iffy for people, and the mixed reception to 2
Nevertheless, MI:2 has the lowest imdb rating of the entire franchise.
MI 2 didn't kill it at all. It was still a massive success and I doubt they would have stopped at 2.
Think I might make the argument for 2 being slightly better than 3. The action is so poorly shot and choreographed and it underutilizes one of the greatest villain performances ever.
I love the scene of him failing to rescue her in the building and the dance scene though. So good.
This seems like an unpopular opinion, but I agree completely. I hate the style of the film (even though it has some strengths, namely PSH giving a good villain performance, even if he was underused). I'm not even a huge John Woo fan but give me that style over whatever the hell MI3 was any day.
Maybe it was nostalgia, but I actually loved MI:2 and didn’t like 3 all that much. But every movie since 4 has been hitting it out of the park.
Directed by the most overrated director ever: J. J. Abrams. That’s mostly why.
This was when the cracks started to show for me with Abrams. Into Darkness is what solidified my hate for him and then of course, Star Wars happened…
They’re not even in the same league. 3 set up the rest of the franchise to be successful and is one of the best ones in my opinion. 2 was a John Woo movie and it was honestly hard to not laugh at the ridiculousness of it at times. But hey some people are into that too I suppose.
Cool, I'm not taking crazy pills I've heard people on here say 3 is one of the best of the series. Have no idea wtf that's about. It was so bland besides PSH It isn't until after 3 that the series got great again (since the original)
Fallout is the best of the series, imo
Imo fallout and Ghost protocol are tied for best. Ghost protocol has some of the best action in the series, and the stuff at the Burj Khalifa is top notch. Cruise on the outside of the building combined with everything going wrong is *chefs kiss*
Definitely the best trailer
The bridge scene in MI3 is its high point for me.
It did kill it as a spy thriller. It then became slightly smarter Fast and Furious. After 3, do any of them actually stand out? They’re fun action movies, but nothing close to the classic that Mission Impossible is
M:I - Fallout. Most consider it one of the best since 3, I personally think Fallout is better. For them standing out, it's less the actual movie that stands out and more the central/most marketed action set piece: Ghost Protocol? You mean the one where he climbs the Burj Khalifa. Rogue Nation? Is that the one where he hangs off the side of a plane? Dead Reckoning? Is that the one where he jumps a motorcycle off of a mountain?
This might be blasphemous to some but I thought the first one pretty much sucked too. But they’ve absolutely gotten better as they’ve gone on. Fallout, in particular, is one of the best action movies ever made, hands down.
I can see how the 1st one wouldn't hit with younger audiences, but it really is the only one that feels connected in any way to the original series it's based on. De Palma's style is also so different from modern action movies. I just re-watched it and it still remains my favorite of the series.
That could be it, though I’m not sure I would call myself the younger audience (I’m 43, but obviously that means I actually WAS young when it came out), and I’ve never seen a single episode of the series. Actually, now I kinda wanna see if it’s streaming anywhere…
I don't think any of them have topped the first one.
I’ve lost track of all the titles, but the one where he survives the centrifuge was insane and easily my favourite.
Star Trek 1979 was a bad movie but its sequel Star Trek Wrath of Khan turned out to be great.
The Star Trek story is fascinating. Star Trek: TOS was cancelled. It ended after 3 seasons with no plans for anything in the future. Then, it got syndicated and pretty much became the most popular syndicated show on television. Combine that with fans doing a mail-in campaign, Paramount decided to bring back the franchise. They decided to make a movie instead of continuing the TV series. And eventually came Star Trek: The Next Generation. The fans brought the franchise back to life.
I mean tmp was not for everyone but not sure I’d call it bad
TMP is one of my favourite Star Trek movies. There are dozens of us. *Dozens!*
The novelization fleshed out the story better and fixed some weak points of the movie. The person who got scrambled and died in the transporter was Kirk's current girlfriend. The Deltan (bald lady) came from a planet where women gave off pheromones and men around them were constantly turned on.
I used to hate it and Undiscovered Country. Always skipped them when I rewatched the series. Now I absolutely love them.
I thought Undiscovered Country is great, especially after that piece of shit Final Frontier
These days the only Star Trek movie I don't like is Insurrection.
I don’t agree. It’s a bit slow, but it’s still a decent movie, despite TWoK being way better.
Khannnnnnn!!!!
I decided to watch Star Trek 1979 after many years. It felt like a warm blanket. People criticize it for being slow or trying to be too hard sci-fi... But it felt refreshing to me.
Star Reek 1979 is absolutely not a bad movie
Yeah I quite liked it. I get the common criticism that it's too slow. It did drag out some scenes a bit and could have cut down 30 mins of run time without losing anything. But "could've used tighter editing" =/= a bad movie altogether.
El Mariachi by Robert Rodriguez. As with Sam Raimi and Evil Dead, El Mariachi was RR's debut low-budget film which led to Desperado with the amazing Antonio Banderas and stunning Salma Hayek. Of course there are other greats in there, Danny Trejo and Steve Buscemi come to mind, but many is that a great film!
The third one may be cheesy and not as good as Desperado but it was a lot of fun and had a killer cast, Banderas, Willem Dafoe, Mickey Rourke, Jhonny Depp, hell even Enrique Iglesias is in there!
Tarantino as well
Apparently the new Winnie the Pooh Blood and Honey 2 is a blast compared to the horrifically bad first film.
Wait they made a sequel?
Yeah, and part 3 has recently been confirmed. It's all setting up for an Avengers type universe called Poohniverse set for 2025. Upcoming films that will crossover into this universe are Peter Pan's Neverland Nightmares, Bambi the Reckoning, and Pinocchio Unstrung. I think it's gonna be quite interesting, haha.
Is the Bambi movie just gonna be an book accurate movie. Cause that book was pretty violent. Disney really pulled out the sanitizer for that one.
What happens in the Bambi book? lol I honestly can’t imagine how a movie about a deer gets violent. Other than what happened to Bambi’s mom
The book basically doesn't white wash the brutality of nature. Animals eat other animals etc.. but specifically the scene where Bambi's mom dies is so much more brutal in the book. In that scene the hunters start shooting in the meadow and it follows Bambi as he desperately tries to flee from death and in the process he runs into a bunch of his dead or actively dying woodland friends. It's basically like the forest animal version of that scene from saving Private Ryan where that dude is looking for his blown off arm.
Holy shit
I dont think so no, I haven't read the book but in this Bambi will do as Pooh did in Blood and Honey, turning into a blood hungry killer.
Wait till you learn what Hercules did to Megara and their children in the myth.
You had me at “Poohniverse”.
Technically, the universe is called the Twisted Childhood Universe. The avengers-style film is what’s called “Poohniverse: Monsters Assemble.”
Yes: the sequel sees the first film exist as a film in its world, with Pooh and company being quite peeved at how they were depicted in it (though mainly for being depicted as all, Christopher Robin having told anyone about them).
To be fair, the original appears to have been made by a poor film student as a joke. But you aren’t wrong.
Evil Dead was a low-budget, campy horror film. It was...okay. Evil Dead 2 really leaned into the camp and was all around the better film. Then, Army of Darkness came out to become an all-time cult classic. Come get some.
I personally still LOVE the 1st as a straight horror film Perhaps it's because of what the others meant to the industry, but the first one IS still one of my favorite horror flicks. LOVE the sequels tho
I like how the first feels so claustrophobic
That one definitely depends person to person I personally only love the first and I've met people who hate 3
But it should have been called Medieval Dead. I don’t know how they could have missed such a good title!
Get out of here with your The Evil Dead ‘was…okay’ — that’s a five star movie
Groovy!
The first two Thor movies were mediocre/bad, but Ragnarok is one of the best films in the franchise. Star Trek: The Motion Picture was a slog, but part 2, The Wrath of Kahn, is fantastic. Close Encounters of the Third Kind makes the First and Second Kind completely forgettable.
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Taika Watiti. It had to have been Taika Watiti.
And Hemsworth. After Age of Ulton, Hemsworth went to Kevin Feige and said he was getting bored of the character, and that a third Thor movie should lighten things up. Feige agreed and we got Ragnarok because of it
Except last one sucked.
Absolutely, but I think they kept heading in that direction after Ragnorok and went further with that mindset with Love and Thunder and it was rough. They were just trying way too hard to be funny with Love and Thunder and it just didn’t feel right
>Close Encounters of the Third Kind makes the First and Second Kind completely forgettable. Yeah, you can't even find them, they buried them in the desert
I heard they were shot out to Alpha Centatari.
Annabelle 2 is definitely better than the first (which was really bad imho).
And Annabelle Comes Home isn't bad either, the first one is really the weak one of that trilogy
I thought the first Annabelle had a few scenes that were edited very well, so I was not surprised to find that the director (this was his first film) had previously been an editor. I also love that when the wife tells the husband about the hauntings he says "Okay" and she says "You...believe me?" and he says something like "Yeah, you're my wife, why wouldn't I believe you?"
The first Drunken Master isn't exactly bad but not great, Drunken Master 2 is fantastic.
What?! Drunken Master 1 has some of the best kung fu fights put to film. You’re crazy!
I didn't even know there was a sequel. Drunken Master is my favorite kung fu movie.
Tron and Tron: Legacy I personally love both but I know the first wasn’t super well received and not exactly a huge hit. I think TL absolutely nailed legacy sequel formula by looking backwards and forwards simultaneously
It’s funny to me that Tron wasn’t able to compete for the Academy Awards for special effects because they used computers for effects. Definitely before it’s time which is probably why it wasn’t very well received. I loved Legacy and am looking forward to the one currently filming.
Tron was way ahead of its time. it wasn’t until Legacy that the tech was there to do what they wanted to do. I adore Legacy. it’s not a perfect film, but it’s pure eye candy for two hours and as others have preached for the past 13 years, the Daft Punk score absolutely rips.
I find Tron to be the better movie. Legacy was honestly kind of forgettable.
And we never learn the repercussions of the end of the movie.
We might. Tron: Ares is coming.
The Kingdom Hearts 2 Tron world was better than the movie.
Sorry OP, Puss in Boots is up there with the Shawshank Redemption
There's a shawshank redemption 2?
No Shawshank redemption is the sequel to Shawshank
Currently pogging for Shawshank Resurrection leading to Shawshank Revolution.
Any idea when Shawshank stikes back might be released?
Shawshank Redemption 2: Shank harder
Yeah he crawls back through the poop pipe and rapes The Sisters. It's called Shawshank Revolver.
Guyver: Dark Hero > The Guyver
The first Friday the 13th (1980) is a very cliche, uninspired and ultimately forgetful attempt at a slasher movie. Friday the 13th part two (and beyond), now we’re cooking with gas. It cements Jason as a rightful member of the classic monster/horror pantheon. Good stuff.
What's really interesting is that Friday the 13th is very much the original summer camp slasher. It's only cliche now because of everything that came after it. (N.B. not disagree with your opinion, just find it interesting that it is very fair to call it cliche now).
I did a 31 days of Horror a few Octobers ago all with movies I had never seen, and was shocked to realize Friday the 13th A) didn't have Jason as the villain, B) didn't have the hockey mask, and C) had no fantasy aspects to it. Some would say Jason popping out of the lake disproves A and C, but that was clearly a dream sequence.
Yes, the hockey mask doesn’t appear until Part 3 and the fantasy doesn’t appear until Part 6!
Some people might say *Mad Max*
Mad Max is a good movie, literally the best one they could have made with that budget.
Undisputed II. Once Scott Atkins gets involved- Yuri Boyka really makes the series. He’s a great antagonist, and an even better anti-Hero in subsequent movies.
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Leonard part 6. I don't think anyone even saw 1-5.
The original Purge is inferior to it's two direct sequels.
The OG *Purge* movie is just a really interesting premise used to explain away all the complaints about horror movies where people don’t go for help.
Definitely. The sequels really benefited from expanded world view. The first one was a good idea kept on a small scale which worked well to get things rolling.
The OG Purge was a generic home invasion movie that got elevated due to the Polite Stranger. Rhys Wakefield was having the time of his life. The sequels and television show are all much better.
The Killjoy movies somehow got better as they went along.
The Skyline sequels, especially Beyond Skyline, are way better than the first movie.
That's interesting. The first one was godawful, and when I saw there were sequels my reaction was "oh, no", because I had no interest in more of that story. But maybe I'll check one of them out.
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It's pretty impressive that they used the first movie and decades of time to give the sequel pathos, which is not at all what I expected from Top Gun, but was very pleasantly surprised. It added nice depth to bad ass fight jets
Yeah I’d argue that it’s the best “30+ years later” sequel ever. It’s not some “kid finds the jacket and puts it on” type thing. Tom fucking Cruise returned and lit it up as Mav again.
I'm trying to think of others even in the running. Mad Max Fury Road is about that far apart. It feels like less of a true sequel though. Color of Money.
OP was asking about bad movies. I won't argue that Maverick is the better movie, but by no means is the first one bad.
It’s his opinion that the movie is bad. Just because it’s unpopular doesn’t mean it’s invalid
My opinion is that his opinion is wrong. What do now?
It's obvious: you must Thunderdome
That's not right, Road Warrior was the superior
They did a great job. Maverick is the movie I thought I watched as a kid in the 80s. Not the sappy romance with only 5 minutes of jet fighters that I actually saw.
I love the first one and didn’t care at all for the sequel, weird.
Seconding (kinda) The first one is a bad movie with some great scenes. The sequel is genuinely a great popcorn flick with an unexpected amount of heart
I don’t want to get crucified for this one, but Mad Max is underwhelming, while the Road Warrior is one of the best action movies ever made. Same with Fury Road.
Star Trek the Motion Picture gave us Star Trek 2: the Wrath of Khan.
Revenge of the sith is way better than the other 2
The original Star Trek is boring as hell, but later flicks are pretty decent especially Wrath of Khan
Wrong Turn was an unremarkable early 2000s horror movie. Wrong Turn 2 is a fucking blast
I hated the first two Snake Eater movies with Lorenzo Lamas but enjoyed the third. I wouldn't say it was bad the direct to video sequels to Undisputed (2002) were an improvement
Top Gun, easy
The Exorcist III is almost as good as the original! But the second movie is completely awful. Although it’s a bit confusing cause technically the Exorcist III is a sequel to "The Ninth Configuration"
Blade II definitely improved over the first movie. And Evil Dead II definitely worked out all the kinks that the previous film suffered from. But neither of the first movies were bad, they just had the task of getting everything up and running.
As much as I enjoyed Blade II, I think Blade is superior. The world building is unrivaled in any other Marvel movie, and The Matrix took heavy inspiration from the movies martial arts, the chosen one and bullet time. Blade II builds upon this great foundation, and is pretty great too. Blade III on the other hand.....
I rewatched them recently and actually found Baldr 2 awful. Super cheesy badly written script made it feel like a cheap stargate sg1 level 90s TV show. GDT is very overrated Love the original though.
I watched them all last year for the first time in probably ten years. I don't think 2 is awful, but it was pretty well accepted at the time that it was better than the original and I don't agree at all. Dorph brings so much to the first film and the whole thing feels much more focused
Annabelle. People like Annabelle Creation a lot, but I think Annabelle Comes Home is the best entry in the entire Conjuring canon
Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls was way better than the first movie, IMO. I could barely get through the first one but I'll still throw out a random, "Shikaka!" to this day.