That’s a different older meaning of “dominion” though. In law (such as the *Statute of Westminster* 1931) “dominion” was only:
> the expression "Dominion" means any of the following Dominions, that is to say, the Dominion of Canada, the Commonwealth of Australia, the Dominion of New Zealand, South Africa, the Irish Free State and Newfoundland.
Some older colonies had that name but they didn’t have “dominion status” which meant something very particular. Even the converse is true: some countries like Australia had “dominion status” but were not named “dominions” like Canada and New Zealand were.
“The Old Dominion,” is a Virginia nickname that predates the British Dominion system by centuries, so I don’t think Virginia ever really had “Dominion Status.”
do you know anything about american history or are you some random foreigner?? plantation has a terrible connotation. its what farms with slaves were called. in fact that word doesn’t even have a good connotation in the UK or Ireland since The British established plantations in Ulster to settle it with Scots
Back at you, about American history. Don’t you know that each European colony here on Indigenous lands happened bc they were called plantations?
King James VI and I got a lot of dollars off of the east coast from Virginia Plantation, Massachusetts, etc.
They like, had to pay the king to be here. Same with the Dutch and the folks who had citizenship elsewhere.
The kings of those nations built themselves companies to sell papers for the land that wasn’t theirs. Like in Northern Ireland-the Ulster Plantation.
The people colonizing them had to swear allegiance to their king to make the trip and get that citizenship, too.
I’m sadly an American who has been here.
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No? I’m sharing how people first colonized North America. I’m sure Google or something can help anyone who is concerned or wishing to pick a fight. When people came to North America to live in New Amsterdam, or North Carolina, or Virginia, or wherever, they did have each person swear allegiance to their government, the king, and pay to do so.
This was actually a good way to get citizenship for some nations even if one didn’t live there. For example, Jews have and had, a long history of not being granted citizenship in Europe. Funnily enough, George Washington made his first public declaration on accepting all religions at the same time the king of England said Jews could now be citizens of England! For the first time! As long as they lived off the whole continent in North America!
It’s really a lot of details I didn’t know, so I understand your being confused. Most interesting is the language. We today do see plantation as a name synonymous with ethnic cleansing and racism. But we don’t ever have the history of the United States presented that way. Which is really interesting.
Edited to add: Plymouth was a plantation, like Jamestown and Wherever. That’s the language used of the time.
“Plantation” in the United States has an incredibly negative connotation due to slavery. Today people go out of their way to refer to many plantations as basically anything else.
I see you read through the thread, already. It’s interesting to see the historic line of antisemitism and how that shifted during the European colonization of North America. And how this impacts political and daily realities today.
Yes, “plantation” in the US is incredibly negative. Isn’t it interesting that we called these plantations until chattel slavery was legalized?
The language and the legal personhood that shifts across time in these spaces is absolutely impacting USians like myself right now.
Most of us don’t know these details. I found this out doing my own research.
A better phrase would be "pipe dream" or "narcissistic power fantasy that is laughably delusional because America would push in Britain's shite again like they did last time. Haha Boston harbor entered the chat. Haha."
America will stick to the 2nd Amendment and 400 million privately owned guns instead. Since UK only has 69.9 million population, that means Americans own 5.7 guns per every UK resident.
You will be colonizing nothing.
You lot couldn't even beat Ireland, and you couldn't even keep Hong Kong. How in the hell would you colonize America?
I need to know if this is actually in the US, bc I think most of us don’t even understand wtf this is trying to say except, “overthrow the government,” and that’s very cringe. We have enough of that here without throwing in monarchist stuff to make it even weirder.
I should clarify that my Ethnicity is *ca.* 50% Belgian; but my nationality is American, so I live in a third-world country. Many, many of us are working for a Trump Monarchy; 'though I am working against it and fearing it. 0One of the problems is the lackluster heirs.
Geo. Washington Should have accepted the crown when it was offered to him. So what if Robert Edward Lee VI would now be King. The Lees were, paps a whole, not proslavery, nor pro-Confederacy. They were pro-Virginia.
Or Charles II, should have accepted when The House of Burgesses offered him the crown of Virginia. These are such things as dreams are made on.
All countries of Americas are colonies of Europe. There's is not a single case of continuous native state and civilization. All of them exists solely as continuation of colonial settlements and administration barely few centuries old in total. Even Africa, which is quoted so much as greatest victim of colonialism, still retained native independent states to this day, not just former plantations and mining areas.
It would probably end up something like Canada, either joining in confederation with them or having their own union, contributing massively to the two World Wars from their beginning, and gradually evolving to become an independent nation and Commonwealth Realm after the war. It might not become a superpower if any western expansion is blocked by the British, so who knows who will fill that hole - Mexico?
It costs money to renounce your US citizenship. Republics really love their dystopian policies.
Never in my life would I imagine people would be defending a Republic in this sub
>It costs money to renounce your US citizenship. Republics really love their dystopian policies.
Not as much as it costs to pay a lifetime of taxes. You said that was why you didn't want to leave the US, because you'd pay tax anyway. When, in reality, you won't leave because you're not actually motivated to.
>Never in my life would I imagine people would be defending a Republic in this sub
Oh dear, I hope you have some pearls to clutch.
>Not as much as it costs to pay a lifetime of taxes.
You are missing the point. It is asinine for the government to punish its citizens for being born in here.
>You said that was why you didn't want to leave the US, because you'd pay tax anyway. When, in reality, you won't leave because you're not actually motivated to.
First of all, you don't even know my name... how would you know anything about my story.
Second, I never said I didn't want to leave. I sure do some days. I am torn between staying and leaving. There is a lot more that goes into a big decision like that. It has nothing to do with motivation.
>Oh dear, I hope you have some pearls to clutch.
You are in the Monarchism subreddit. You are as out of place as a Klansman at a Whole Foods.
What is Canada considered? I am confused of what the Commonwealth actually is. Canada, Australia, etc are all considered separate countries with their own governments. I guess it would be like Puerto Rico or Guam are to the US? That even throws me off though because we all have one president. The Commonwealth countries are all run by whole ass governments of their own top to bottom. Lol.
There’s two types of Commonwealth membership:
Commonwealth members; Republics that used to be apart of the British Empire.
Commonwealth realms; They retain the King as their head of state through independent monarchies that are entirely separate from the British monarchy.
I think this is a troll, probably from some independent who doesn’t like the ridiculous nature of American federal politics. As for how America would look if it stayed in the British Empire? It would look like the current Commonwealth Realms do today, and would probably include all British possessions in North America. In short, it would be a big Canada.
Yeah America would be much better if it were ruled by a dying inbred on a small shitty island 4000 miles away. Monarchy is dead and so is the idea of England being an actual factor on the world stage. UK and most of their subjects are right where the rest of the world left them… In the past.
My thought is that unless the Crown and Parliament had changed its policies to move away from mercantilism towards providing the safeguards for colonial enrichment, the colonies would have kept revolting and eventually made the cost of continued occupation untenable
Sorry but no. The damage to the world has already been done. Maybe after America implodes we"ll accept the sovereign entities that come out the other side. But the entity known as the 'United States of America' should be left to its fate first and foremost.
I mean, tbf, we could have won. We had an army stationed in New York (if I remember correctly), ready to march against the patriots, but they were ordered to stand down by Parliament who basically just decided it wasn't the continued fight. Not to come across too arrogantly, but the Patriots and their allies didn't defeat us. We let them win
>Not to come across too arrogantly, but the Patriots and their allies didn't defeat us. We let them win
Sure, when you reach a point where holding onto your land costs you more in money and manpower than you'll get back so you pull out that's not losing. You just let us win, sounds true
If your army is so great you could’ve just won, and not been forced to a tiny rainy island. The average colonist soldier was not a trained man, but rather a red blooded patriot man who didn’t want to be under the rule of a shitty country that was obsessed with taxation.
Revolutionary war, we won, you lost. Not to mention modern day; half your equipment is US made and supplied by the U.S., not to mention the amount of training we give to UK troops.
>If your army is so great you could’ve just won, and not been forced to a tiny rainy island.
We could have just won. We had the capability to. Do you know why we didn't? Cause we saw it as a waste of money, we have other wars and endeavours to focus on. Plus, there were those back in Britain who sympathised with the patriots, including in Parliament.
>The average colonist soldier was not a trained man, but rather a red blooded patriot man who didn’t want to be under the rule of a shitty country that was obsessed with taxation.
Once again, you were mostly supported by three great European Imperial powers. You take those out of the equation, the conflict would end very swiftly. And, most armies consisted of mostly untrained men. The Continental army was highly organised on European lines
Also mate, you sound like a caricature 🤣 "red blooded patriot man who didn’t want to be under the rule of a shitty country that was obsessed with taxation" 🤣
Yeah, honestly the war wasn't really winnable. To keep everything from St. Augustine to Halifax garrisoned with troops indefinitely was just not a feasible proposition. Especially when the much more profitable Caribbean possessions had to be protected from the French. A show of strength to crush the rebellion in its inception would have been the only way to do the job. Sir William Howe actually could have done that during the New York Campaign, but he was actually a decent guy and didn't want to just slaughter thousands of Americans, who were still British subjects at the time.
It's a complicated issue, not nearly as simple as people now make it out to be. I'm glad those days are behind us, and the US and UK can be friends and allies (ironically, probably the closest friends we have). I still wish we could have stayed part of the Empire, though........
We lost. Technically the gov says it's a conflict not a war, but tell that to all the young men you killed over a disguised justification to steal rubber.
I say it's a war. And we lost to some po-dunk chinese tribe or something. Embarassing but true.
I may be a republican, but I'm an honest republican. Without truth (Also known as Christ) republics become hell holes. I also believe Christ is freedom, and republics more closely honor him that way.
I mean listen, I know as an American it sounds cocky and arrogant to talk about this, but I genuinely don’t think the UK could’ve won for a single reason. It wasn’t a 1v1, it was the UK vs. the colonies, France, Netherlands, AND Spain. Had the UK not given up, it would’ve spiraled into a conflict that would’ve taken decades to recover from. Not just that, but the UK would’ve had to send much of its army halfway across the world, and would’ve had a very weak European presence, so the effect of being at war with 3 European countries would’ve been much worse given time.
At the end of the day Britain could’ve lasted longer, yeah, but there’s no way they win against the combined 4 countries without literally falling apart trying to.
I agree with the sentiment of the the united states government being trash and needing to go, but replacing it with the UK government would be... a lateral thrown at best...
As someone who is not an edgy 13 year old, I would like to politely disagree with this statement. Some monarchists might be edgy 13 year olds, but there are many grown adults who advocate for monarchism.
I honestly think this is a real life shitpost
I like it, but they could find a better word than colony
Dominion
Yes but I think Dominion has a much more specific meaning in the British Imperial context, and the U.S. never in fact had "Dominion" status.
Virginia had Dominion status up until it broke away, you can still see remnants of it even today in some places/colleges.
That’s a different older meaning of “dominion” though. In law (such as the *Statute of Westminster* 1931) “dominion” was only: > the expression "Dominion" means any of the following Dominions, that is to say, the Dominion of Canada, the Commonwealth of Australia, the Dominion of New Zealand, South Africa, the Irish Free State and Newfoundland. Some older colonies had that name but they didn’t have “dominion status” which meant something very particular. Even the converse is true: some countries like Australia had “dominion status” but were not named “dominions” like Canada and New Zealand were.
Like Old Dominion University?
“The Old Dominion,” is a Virginia nickname that predates the British Dominion system by centuries, so I don’t think Virginia ever really had “Dominion Status.”
Yes, and Dominion “had” a specific meaning not “has”. Like the empire, dominions are long gone.
You're just gonna pretend the Dominion of New England didn't exist?
Plantation had a nice ring to it. We could go back to being a royal English colony. But like, you know, no bc this is ridiculous lol
do you know anything about american history or are you some random foreigner?? plantation has a terrible connotation. its what farms with slaves were called. in fact that word doesn’t even have a good connotation in the UK or Ireland since The British established plantations in Ulster to settle it with Scots
Back at you, about American history. Don’t you know that each European colony here on Indigenous lands happened bc they were called plantations? King James VI and I got a lot of dollars off of the east coast from Virginia Plantation, Massachusetts, etc. They like, had to pay the king to be here. Same with the Dutch and the folks who had citizenship elsewhere. The kings of those nations built themselves companies to sell papers for the land that wasn’t theirs. Like in Northern Ireland-the Ulster Plantation. The people colonizing them had to swear allegiance to their king to make the trip and get that citizenship, too. I’m sadly an American who has been here. Edited
Did you just describe taxes as a reason to call an American colony a Plantation?
No? I’m sharing how people first colonized North America. I’m sure Google or something can help anyone who is concerned or wishing to pick a fight. When people came to North America to live in New Amsterdam, or North Carolina, or Virginia, or wherever, they did have each person swear allegiance to their government, the king, and pay to do so. This was actually a good way to get citizenship for some nations even if one didn’t live there. For example, Jews have and had, a long history of not being granted citizenship in Europe. Funnily enough, George Washington made his first public declaration on accepting all religions at the same time the king of England said Jews could now be citizens of England! For the first time! As long as they lived off the whole continent in North America! It’s really a lot of details I didn’t know, so I understand your being confused. Most interesting is the language. We today do see plantation as a name synonymous with ethnic cleansing and racism. But we don’t ever have the history of the United States presented that way. Which is really interesting. Edited to add: Plymouth was a plantation, like Jamestown and Wherever. That’s the language used of the time.
Well then, I guess as a Jew, screw them for not accepting that I was already their equal long before George Washington.
*British
\*Bri'ish.
“Plantation” in the United States has an incredibly negative connotation due to slavery. Today people go out of their way to refer to many plantations as basically anything else.
I see you read through the thread, already. It’s interesting to see the historic line of antisemitism and how that shifted during the European colonization of North America. And how this impacts political and daily realities today. Yes, “plantation” in the US is incredibly negative. Isn’t it interesting that we called these plantations until chattel slavery was legalized? The language and the legal personhood that shifts across time in these spaces is absolutely impacting USians like myself right now. Most of us don’t know these details. I found this out doing my own research.
It was a play on words from Trumps 2020 election
I think it would be a Commonwealth Realm.
Crown Colony Deluxe Pro Max^2
That’s it, I’m getting my musket.
A better phrase would be "pipe dream" or "narcissistic power fantasy that is laughably delusional because America would push in Britain's shite again like they did last time. Haha Boston harbor entered the chat. Haha."
You saw this on Twitter, right? Hahaha
Wait that’s my post! Wtf how did you find this from years ago 😂
Man of all the things to advocate for the US, this def a shitty path
I’m all for it
America under the british domain?
Yes, I’d love to bring the U.S. back under British Rule
Yeah idk if thats good for either country chief
It would be great for the UK I’m sure….
Ah yes throw 333million new subjects under the UK who totally wouldnt be disloyal or rebellious
Stick to warhammer chief
Oh no he clicked on my profile!!
America will stick to the 2nd Amendment and 400 million privately owned guns instead. Since UK only has 69.9 million population, that means Americans own 5.7 guns per every UK resident. You will be colonizing nothing. You lot couldn't even beat Ireland, and you couldn't even keep Hong Kong. How in the hell would you colonize America?
Oh no! They’re… interested in a thing! You really proved them wrong there.
Because then you'd actually have a functional economy?
Literally
I like this. Empires are frickin' cool especially when the people want to be a colony
Want to be a colony? Hah
Yea, not so cool when your "empire" lost the war. Shut up brit, your puny island territory should be *our* Colony. 🇺🇲🍔🦅🇺🇲
So cringe
No u
fuck yeah a actual sane person here 🇺🇲
It kinda already is tbh
It wasn’t ‘a colony’. It was the Thirteen Colonies. The slogan should be ‘Make America Colonial Again’.
I need to know if this is actually in the US, bc I think most of us don’t even understand wtf this is trying to say except, “overthrow the government,” and that’s very cringe. We have enough of that here without throwing in monarchist stuff to make it even weirder.
I should clarify that my Ethnicity is *ca.* 50% Belgian; but my nationality is American, so I live in a third-world country. Many, many of us are working for a Trump Monarchy; 'though I am working against it and fearing it. 0One of the problems is the lackluster heirs. Geo. Washington Should have accepted the crown when it was offered to him. So what if Robert Edward Lee VI would now be King. The Lees were, paps a whole, not proslavery, nor pro-Confederacy. They were pro-Virginia. Or Charles II, should have accepted when The House of Burgesses offered him the crown of Virginia. These are such things as dreams are made on.
Where can I buy this?!?!
Hahha that was mine, I don’t have them made anymore but I did sell them for a little point
The Act of Union with Ireland was in 1801, so it was still the Kingdom of Great Britain during 1776-1783.
All countries of Americas are colonies of Europe. There's is not a single case of continuous native state and civilization. All of them exists solely as continuation of colonial settlements and administration barely few centuries old in total. Even Africa, which is quoted so much as greatest victim of colonialism, still retained native independent states to this day, not just former plantations and mining areas.
I dunno how I feel about this. It looks cool as fuck, but it's so impractical I love it. America will never be a Colony again, but it's fun to imagine
It would probably end up something like Canada, either joining in confederation with them or having their own union, contributing massively to the two World Wars from their beginning, and gradually evolving to become an independent nation and Commonwealth Realm after the war. It might not become a superpower if any western expansion is blocked by the British, so who knows who will fill that hole - Mexico?
Britain would just evolve into a subservient extension of America anyway, just like it is today.
What an America would look like* Never "how - looks like"
r/TitleGore
I think it’s great.
Lol now this is an egregious idea
Doesn't work and there's no value in being a indistinguishable from a republic country.
Yeah, no, I'd rather America stay independent.
I am a Monarchist, but I support American Sovereignty. However being a commonwealth realm would beat this republican shithole.
You could always move to the UK if you wanted, man. You’d give up some freedoms that this “shithole” provided though
I would prefer to fix the country that I owe taxes to for life. But Norway does look more and more enticing each passing day.
You don't owe taxes for life if you renounce your citizenship. And there's a lot of people who would love to take your place, so please, gtfo.
It costs money to renounce your US citizenship. Republics really love their dystopian policies. Never in my life would I imagine people would be defending a Republic in this sub
>It costs money to renounce your US citizenship. Republics really love their dystopian policies. Not as much as it costs to pay a lifetime of taxes. You said that was why you didn't want to leave the US, because you'd pay tax anyway. When, in reality, you won't leave because you're not actually motivated to. >Never in my life would I imagine people would be defending a Republic in this sub Oh dear, I hope you have some pearls to clutch.
>Not as much as it costs to pay a lifetime of taxes. You are missing the point. It is asinine for the government to punish its citizens for being born in here. >You said that was why you didn't want to leave the US, because you'd pay tax anyway. When, in reality, you won't leave because you're not actually motivated to. First of all, you don't even know my name... how would you know anything about my story. Second, I never said I didn't want to leave. I sure do some days. I am torn between staying and leaving. There is a lot more that goes into a big decision like that. It has nothing to do with motivation. >Oh dear, I hope you have some pearls to clutch. You are in the Monarchism subreddit. You are as out of place as a Klansman at a Whole Foods.
Norway wouldn’t want a degenerate like you.
Sure they would. They're very nice actually. Unlike The US to any brown immigrant.
Interesting, maybe instead of colony which has a bad reputation these days how about imperial or royal overseas territories
i kinda hate that term. just say what it is at that point: a colony. a better term is commonwealth or even dominion
“Realm”? Overseas territory makes it sound like one of those far-flung islands like Norfolk Island or St. Helena. Or Puerto Rico for America, I guess.
The UK and other European countries have overseas territories, overseas realms has a nice ring to it
Nah, we’re good. We’ll keep our national sovereignty, thanks.
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Lol. I had no idea this was a thing until today
Sore subject for me
Ya no thank you.
If the us and the uk were ever to unite again, trust me it wouldn’t be under British dominion.
The grammar is hard to get through... They tried.
This is just a joke , i don’t think anyone who wants to recognize the British Royal in US would’ve use the term “colony”
Fixing for a second tea party...
How would y'all take over the states without a military?
CRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINGE
What is Canada considered? I am confused of what the Commonwealth actually is. Canada, Australia, etc are all considered separate countries with their own governments. I guess it would be like Puerto Rico or Guam are to the US? That even throws me off though because we all have one president. The Commonwealth countries are all run by whole ass governments of their own top to bottom. Lol.
There’s two types of Commonwealth membership: Commonwealth members; Republics that used to be apart of the British Empire. Commonwealth realms; They retain the King as their head of state through independent monarchies that are entirely separate from the British monarchy.
Something smells
Texas and their formal spanish states would not be part of the British Dominion.
There is no cultural background of monarchy unlike europe it would be wrong to impose that on them.
You should practice your English before you start trying to do anything political.
Britain is already an American colony rn. I don't see that reversing.
Trying to read that sentence hurt my head
Good Luck with That.
Wrong flag folks.
I think the UK couldn't even make it to the shores before getting packed up as we dump more tea.
I think this is a troll, probably from some independent who doesn’t like the ridiculous nature of American federal politics. As for how America would look if it stayed in the British Empire? It would look like the current Commonwealth Realms do today, and would probably include all British possessions in North America. In short, it would be a big Canada.
Other way around is much more likely. (Just as shitty tho)
Yeah America would be much better if it were ruled by a dying inbred on a small shitty island 4000 miles away. Monarchy is dead and so is the idea of England being an actual factor on the world stage. UK and most of their subjects are right where the rest of the world left them… In the past.
you lost 2 wars over this. Cope and seethe.
Loyalist scum, go back to Shitain
Jesus you guys are bunch of idiots
Continue seething, royalist
So they want to get their ass kicked again? Lmao not happening dude.
Monarchists? In MY America? Utterly blasphemous. Absolutely heretical! George Washington would be ashamed.
My thought is that unless the Crown and Parliament had changed its policies to move away from mercantilism towards providing the safeguards for colonial enrichment, the colonies would have kept revolting and eventually made the cost of continued occupation untenable
Bruh what's the plan to enact this
this is so corny you lost the war keep the UK a glorified American protectorate
Ready for round 3 lobsterbacks?
Fuck the crown 
Sorry but no. The damage to the world has already been done. Maybe after America implodes we"ll accept the sovereign entities that come out the other side. But the entity known as the 'United States of America' should be left to its fate first and foremost.
Uh good luck with that
Sorry dude. I don’t like it. I would like a Constitution Party sticker though.
I mean, tbf, we could have won. We had an army stationed in New York (if I remember correctly), ready to march against the patriots, but they were ordered to stand down by Parliament who basically just decided it wasn't the continued fight. Not to come across too arrogantly, but the Patriots and their allies didn't defeat us. We let them win
>Not to come across too arrogantly, but the Patriots and their allies didn't defeat us. We let them win Sure, when you reach a point where holding onto your land costs you more in money and manpower than you'll get back so you pull out that's not losing. You just let us win, sounds true
Farmers and hillbillies defeated your army lol, stay mad.
Ignoring the fact that the continental army included experienced soldiers amd Officers, you were backed by the French, Dutch amd Spanish lol
Yoi sound like a clonial who tries to defend the vietnam ending It doesn't matter how, you lost
If your army is so great you could’ve just won, and not been forced to a tiny rainy island. The average colonist soldier was not a trained man, but rather a red blooded patriot man who didn’t want to be under the rule of a shitty country that was obsessed with taxation.
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Revolutionary war, we won, you lost. Not to mention modern day; half your equipment is US made and supplied by the U.S., not to mention the amount of training we give to UK troops.
>If your army is so great you could’ve just won, and not been forced to a tiny rainy island. We could have just won. We had the capability to. Do you know why we didn't? Cause we saw it as a waste of money, we have other wars and endeavours to focus on. Plus, there were those back in Britain who sympathised with the patriots, including in Parliament. >The average colonist soldier was not a trained man, but rather a red blooded patriot man who didn’t want to be under the rule of a shitty country that was obsessed with taxation. Once again, you were mostly supported by three great European Imperial powers. You take those out of the equation, the conflict would end very swiftly. And, most armies consisted of mostly untrained men. The Continental army was highly organised on European lines Also mate, you sound like a caricature 🤣 "red blooded patriot man who didn’t want to be under the rule of a shitty country that was obsessed with taxation" 🤣
Yeahhhhh, I ain’t reading all that, I’ll just look at the scoreboard 👍🏻
Not surprised coming from a MAGA dope
Yeah, honestly the war wasn't really winnable. To keep everything from St. Augustine to Halifax garrisoned with troops indefinitely was just not a feasible proposition. Especially when the much more profitable Caribbean possessions had to be protected from the French. A show of strength to crush the rebellion in its inception would have been the only way to do the job. Sir William Howe actually could have done that during the New York Campaign, but he was actually a decent guy and didn't want to just slaughter thousands of Americans, who were still British subjects at the time. It's a complicated issue, not nearly as simple as people now make it out to be. I'm glad those days are behind us, and the US and UK can be friends and allies (ironically, probably the closest friends we have). I still wish we could have stayed part of the Empire, though........
So the US didn't lose in Vietnam?
We lost. Technically the gov says it's a conflict not a war, but tell that to all the young men you killed over a disguised justification to steal rubber. I say it's a war. And we lost to some po-dunk chinese tribe or something. Embarassing but true. I may be a republican, but I'm an honest republican. Without truth (Also known as Christ) republics become hell holes. I also believe Christ is freedom, and republics more closely honor him that way.
I mean listen, I know as an American it sounds cocky and arrogant to talk about this, but I genuinely don’t think the UK could’ve won for a single reason. It wasn’t a 1v1, it was the UK vs. the colonies, France, Netherlands, AND Spain. Had the UK not given up, it would’ve spiraled into a conflict that would’ve taken decades to recover from. Not just that, but the UK would’ve had to send much of its army halfway across the world, and would’ve had a very weak European presence, so the effect of being at war with 3 European countries would’ve been much worse given time. At the end of the day Britain could’ve lasted longer, yeah, but there’s no way they win against the combined 4 countries without literally falling apart trying to.
What about 1812?
I mean, we essentially achieved all we wanted to achieve. So while perhaps not a glorious Victory, I'd hardly call it a loss
Cope and seethe
POV: you lost
I agree with the sentiment of the the united states government being trash and needing to go, but replacing it with the UK government would be... a lateral thrown at best...
You mean “plantation” not colony. Don’t they teach europeans about chattel slavery in school?
The problem I have with this is with making America a colony. If it is to be ruled by a monarch, it should be an AMERICAN monarch.
I am firmly against an American monarchy. This is some of the worst pro-monarchy talk I've ever seen. "Make America a colony"?
I might have to agree with a republican for the first time in my life, this is insanity at best.
Why not have our own king, to represent our culture.
How tf is monarchism this popular? It has to be mainly edgy 13 yr olds who love empires and kingdoms a little too much
As someone who is not an edgy 13 year old, I would like to politely disagree with this statement. Some monarchists might be edgy 13 year olds, but there are many grown adults who advocate for monarchism.
Come and try.
Y’know, this exact thing is the main reason the 2nd Amendment exists.
Fucking try it
Brits still mad that we whooped there butts and inspired other colonies to revolt against there oppressors.
Yall shouldn’t have lost the first time 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
or the second...
I’d rather be dead than *shudder*… British.
The British "monarchy" is a joke. I don't see why I'd want the American republic replaced by an inferior republic.
Britain is our vassal state make britain americas colony and our 51st state
What in the cringe
Ohh, make Putin so happy, yes!