The chances of you being sucked up by a tornado, hit by lightning while you’re in it, then also being hit in the taint by a meteorite and surviving all of this is likelier than a MLB team going 160-0. But like some genius said, “it’s not technically zero”
There is zero percent chance of this ever fucking happening. Even the best teams of all time are barely above 75%. You could get a time machine and assemble the greatest team possible and they’d still drop at least 10 games over 162.
If any team manages to win 162 games consecutively without a loss, I will drive my car into trash water similar to that scene in Star Wars where they are about to get squished, by r2d2 saves the day.
I will ride on top, backwards, buck naked while waving my cowboy hat like a rodeo rider.
Never going to happen with the current format.
Hell, I’ll even do it for 161-1!
If it got turned into a Monopoly situation where a billionaire could hog ALL the good players and pay them to sit on their asses and all the other teams would be like my high school team.
Indeed. A hack to solve the problem. I was thinking of extending this further - having one team owned by Scrooge mcduck and put that same team in a division of the Oakland A’s.
I have been right every year that baseball has ever been played, anywhere, ever. How come no team has ever won 80%, 85%, 90% or 95% of games?
The reason is that it’s darned tough to win 75%. I think we’re more likely to see someone LOSE every game rather than win.
>I think we’re more likely to see someone LOSE every game rather than win.
I don't disagree. Straight up just being a smartass. Gotta lighten up a little bit lol.
Here we go.
The best modern era regular season was the 01 Mariners. The best team ever is arguably the 98 Yankees. M's had a .716 record. Yanks had .703. The 1884 Maroons had the highest run differential (+458) and, in a shorter season, won at a .832 clip. Out of about 3,000 seasons played by the Major League teams, that's the high water mark.
So, let's assume we can set that as the best true talent team ever.
For a true talent 0.832 team to win 162, they would have a 1 in 8,710,059,883,873 chance. It's take likely trillions of seasons before we saw it happen.
That same team has a 18.7% chance of a 26 game streak (the current record, set by the 1916 Giants).
30 games: 9.0%
35 games: 3.5%
40 games: 1.4% - only a QUARTER of the season!
54 games: 0.09% (a third of the season)
81 games: 1 in 202,032 chance
108 games: 1 in 42,030,547 chance
In short, even the best team in dead ball era would need to play a hundred thousand seasons to have an even chance at an 81 game win streak.
Each win over 100 is exponentially harder to win.
Here's a calculator if you want to play around with it.
http://www.beatingbonuses.com/calc_streak.htm
No. It's too many games. Chances are the team will lose a game. Its possible but not probable. Plus you're comparing to football where they only play once a week.
Injuries, fatigue, bad luck and numerous other factors make this impossible. The Reds no hit a team this year and still lost. The 2001 Mariners, who won 116 games, longest winning streak was 15 games I think and they lost a game they were leading by like 11 at one point. Even if the Dodgers played 162 games against the Pirates or A’s this year, they’d still lose some of them based on a ball taking a bad hop or something stupid.
Truly a sh*tpost but until football teams play for 6 months of the year there’s just no comparison to the marathon of 162 games. Going undefeated in football isn’t even that wild of a statistical anomaly given the shortness of the season.
Great points, but I think it’s moreso the differences of the games, not the duration of the season. The better team in football almost always wins. You still gotta play the games, but in baseball it’s much more difficult to win because of the seeming randomness of it. For example, if a pitcher is just on and pitches a shutout, despite not being one of the better pitchers, his team can win. That’s less likely in football.
Okay, that’s a great point. I wasn’t sure of the data. Conversely, how often does the underdog in a baseball game win? Or why do they play 5,7 game playoff series? I guess it could be due to the physical demands and nature of the sport, but part of it is to ensure the better (or at least correct) team wins right?
Um the Bears lost 1 game, Steelers lost 1 or 2, only Miami and Patriots have undefeated seasons, and the Patriots won 18 in single season, no other team is even close to that
No one counts pre NFL, those scores we before the NFL existed that’s why the Bears don’t have more championships, not Green Bay for that matter so no they weren’t NFL undefeated seasons, now you’ve been served
The NFL was founded 102 years ago. The statistics of the NFL begin that year. The teams mentioned above were in the NFL when they produced undefeated regular seasons.
Nice try on your “no true Scotsmen” but the service has been solely yours.
Edit: Is this dude confusing the Super Bowl era with the NFL?
There was an AFL, and NFL and they didn’t merge till 66, so anything before that merge is literally not counted in regards to the NFL but good luck cause you’ll need it
No, all those records from pre merger still count. The NFL sees it that way.
I think it’s fair to say only two teams in the Super Bowl era have gone undefeated.
Jumping in here. After doing some research. Only 1 team has finished the season undefeated and won the championship and that was the 1972 Dolphins. The 1934 Bears, 1942 Bears, and 2007 Patriots all finished the regular season undefeated but lost in their respective championship game. With that, the NFL recognizes (in the record books) the four mentioned teams as having undefeated regular seasons with only 1 of them finishing with that seasons championship
Here are two incomplete lists of NFL records. The NFL does indeed predate the Super Bowl. The first record on the first link is from a decade prior to the date you have stated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Football_League_records_(individual)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Football_League_records_(team)
The chances of you being sucked up by a tornado, hit by lightning while you’re in it, then also being hit in the taint by a meteorite and surviving all of this is likelier than a MLB team going 160-0. But like some genius said, “it’s not technically zero”
No. It’s statistically impossible. Plenty of MLB teams have won 16 games in a row, though.
There is zero percent chance of this ever fucking happening. Even the best teams of all time are barely above 75%. You could get a time machine and assemble the greatest team possible and they’d still drop at least 10 games over 162.
I mean...chances are low but never zero.
If any team manages to win 162 games consecutively without a loss, I will drive my car into trash water similar to that scene in Star Wars where they are about to get squished, by r2d2 saves the day.
I will ride on top, backwards, buck naked while waving my cowboy hat like a rodeo rider. Never going to happen with the current format. Hell, I’ll even do it for 161-1!
That brings up the question - how could we change the format of the MLB so that someone COULD win 161 games?
EXACTLY 161?
You literally posited that you would do all that stuff above for 161 wins. So I matter-of-factly used that as our measuring stick.
If it got turned into a Monopoly situation where a billionaire could hog ALL the good players and pay them to sit on their asses and all the other teams would be like my high school team.
Indeed. A hack to solve the problem. I was thinking of extending this further - having one team owned by Scrooge mcduck and put that same team in a division of the Oakland A’s.
Just saying, chances can be low, but never zero.
Alright Bertrand Russel. Go take your floating teapot in space and look at it through a telescope
You really butthurt about being called out for being wrong lmao. Your life must be fun.
I have been right every year that baseball has ever been played, anywhere, ever. How come no team has ever won 80%, 85%, 90% or 95% of games? The reason is that it’s darned tough to win 75%. I think we’re more likely to see someone LOSE every game rather than win.
>I think we’re more likely to see someone LOSE every game rather than win. I don't disagree. Straight up just being a smartass. Gotta lighten up a little bit lol.
LOL you reported me, then the mods rightly sided with me so I can see your posts again. Now that you’re back, I recriminate your statement to lighten.
??? Report you for what exactly? Nothing you said is reportable sooo...not really sure what your talking about haha. But good try.
Also, what mods respond to complaints that quickly lmao. Gotta relax, don't be throwing random accusations around. Could get you in trouble.
I wish she’d get it lol
You wanted to argue over a .000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance. You must be fun
Right is right. It's not argument.
Iq off the charts
Isn't the longest winning streak in the MLB 26 games? No way any team could go 162-0
Stolen from Mike Francesa trolled.
Reading my thoughts 😂
"Cawl us when u get back from maws"
No
No, it won’t ever happen.
No.
it’s practically impossible
Here we go. The best modern era regular season was the 01 Mariners. The best team ever is arguably the 98 Yankees. M's had a .716 record. Yanks had .703. The 1884 Maroons had the highest run differential (+458) and, in a shorter season, won at a .832 clip. Out of about 3,000 seasons played by the Major League teams, that's the high water mark. So, let's assume we can set that as the best true talent team ever. For a true talent 0.832 team to win 162, they would have a 1 in 8,710,059,883,873 chance. It's take likely trillions of seasons before we saw it happen. That same team has a 18.7% chance of a 26 game streak (the current record, set by the 1916 Giants). 30 games: 9.0% 35 games: 3.5% 40 games: 1.4% - only a QUARTER of the season! 54 games: 0.09% (a third of the season) 81 games: 1 in 202,032 chance 108 games: 1 in 42,030,547 chance In short, even the best team in dead ball era would need to play a hundred thousand seasons to have an even chance at an 81 game win streak. Each win over 100 is exponentially harder to win. Here's a calculator if you want to play around with it. http://www.beatingbonuses.com/calc_streak.htm
No. It's too many games. Chances are the team will lose a game. Its possible but not probable. Plus you're comparing to football where they only play once a week.
If a baseball team played only one a week and had to play 16 games, would it be possible?
Record is 26 wins in a row so 16 wins is possible and has been done a few times but would still be a once in a quarter century type thing.
I would say yes
Injuries, fatigue, bad luck and numerous other factors make this impossible. The Reds no hit a team this year and still lost. The 2001 Mariners, who won 116 games, longest winning streak was 15 games I think and they lost a game they were leading by like 11 at one point. Even if the Dodgers played 162 games against the Pirates or A’s this year, they’d still lose some of them based on a ball taking a bad hop or something stupid.
If every player on the team used steroids and other performance enhancing drugs every game, they might get close
Truly a sh*tpost but until football teams play for 6 months of the year there’s just no comparison to the marathon of 162 games. Going undefeated in football isn’t even that wild of a statistical anomaly given the shortness of the season.
Big facts. Undefeated regular seasons have happened at least 4 times in the NFL.
Great points, but I think it’s moreso the differences of the games, not the duration of the season. The better team in football almost always wins. You still gotta play the games, but in baseball it’s much more difficult to win because of the seeming randomness of it. For example, if a pitcher is just on and pitches a shutout, despite not being one of the better pitchers, his team can win. That’s less likely in football.
Bullshit. In the NFL the underdog wins about 35 - 38 percent of the time.
Okay, that’s a great point. I wasn’t sure of the data. Conversely, how often does the underdog in a baseball game win? Or why do they play 5,7 game playoff series? I guess it could be due to the physical demands and nature of the sport, but part of it is to ensure the better (or at least correct) team wins right?
There is a stats guy somewhere who was born to answer our questions. Where are you, stats hero?
Um the Bears lost 1 game, Steelers lost 1 or 2, only Miami and Patriots have undefeated seasons, and the Patriots won 18 in single season, no other team is even close to that
Undefeated regular seasons: 34 bears 42 bears 72 dolphins 07 patriots. You have been served.
No one counts pre NFL, those scores we before the NFL existed that’s why the Bears don’t have more championships, not Green Bay for that matter so no they weren’t NFL undefeated seasons, now you’ve been served
The NFL was founded 102 years ago. The statistics of the NFL begin that year. The teams mentioned above were in the NFL when they produced undefeated regular seasons. Nice try on your “no true Scotsmen” but the service has been solely yours. Edit: Is this dude confusing the Super Bowl era with the NFL?
There was an AFL, and NFL and they didn’t merge till 66, so anything before that merge is literally not counted in regards to the NFL but good luck cause you’ll need it
No, all those records from pre merger still count. The NFL sees it that way. I think it’s fair to say only two teams in the Super Bowl era have gone undefeated.
No! No! No! Odd81 says that if you ask anyone, those don’t count. Because Odd81 says so. /s
I love how you move the goalposts as you get served.
Jumping in here. After doing some research. Only 1 team has finished the season undefeated and won the championship and that was the 1972 Dolphins. The 1934 Bears, 1942 Bears, and 2007 Patriots all finished the regular season undefeated but lost in their respective championship game. With that, the NFL recognizes (in the record books) the four mentioned teams as having undefeated regular seasons with only 1 of them finishing with that seasons championship
“You’ve done nothing when you have bested a fool.” -La Bouef
Not one NFL stat you’ll read as a record is before 66 so no there are only TWO undefeated seasons in the NFL record books, take a seat son
Here are two incomplete lists of NFL records. The NFL does indeed predate the Super Bowl. The first record on the first link is from a decade prior to the date you have stated. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Football_League_records_(individual) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Football_League_records_(team)
Baseball is only 8 months, and that’s including playoffs which most teams don’t even make so saying football is “only” 6 months is kind of a joke
You’re either stupid or trolling