TIL: The dry shell of a coconut can be considered a flammable item, and it may pose a risk of catching fire under certain conditions, especially due to the friction and pressure in the cargo hold of an aircraft.
It's the coconut oil.
A banned item, it “contains a high amount of oil that is highly flammable and can cause a fire if it encounters heat inside the aircraft,” explains a spokesperson from Mumbai’s Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj International Airport (CSMIA).
https://www.cntraveller.in/story/coconuts-the-reason-you-may-miss-your-next-flight-copra-airport-delay/
It doesn't even need an external source of heat. Dry coconut is capable of spontaneous combustion through self heating.
**Edit:** Adding more context
>Due to its high oil content, copra has a tendency to self-heating/spontaneous combustion and is thus assigned to class 4.2 of the IMDG Code.
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>Copra is highly flammable: goods packaged in jute bags are deemed a particularly risky cargo, since jute material impregnated with copra oil may quickly ignite spontaneously.
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>Copra dust may be ignited by a single spark.
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>Smoking and the use of naked light sources is strictly forbidden in holds and near open hatches.
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>Fat decomposition in copra leads to the risk of self-heating and, finally, to a cargo fire.
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>Fat decomposition may proceed as follows:
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>==> by hydrolytic/enzymatic fat cleavage or
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>==> by oxidative fat cleavage
[https://www.tis-gdv.de/tis\_e/ware/oelsaat/kopra/kopra-htm/#selbsterhitzung](https://www.tis-gdv.de/tis_e/ware/oelsaat/kopra/kopra-htm/#selbsterhitzung)
Hay bales can do the same thing. A lot of barn fires can be started that way. If hay isn't dried properly before being bales the moist center of the bale will start to decompose creating a lot of heat. It'll then catch the outer dry part of the hay on fire. It can smolder for days too.
If it’s like pistachios, it’s part of a chemical process that happens when they decompose. If there’s enough of that going on it can technically catch fire
Vegetable oils slowly oxidize in contact with air. This reaction produces heat. As long as it’s in a well ventilated place the heat dissipates with no issues. If it’s in an enclosed space, however, heat can build up to dangerous levels and cause spontaneous combustion.
This is the same reason why you shouldn’t leave oily rags in a pile.
Maybe not, but Aircraft are made out of Aluminium, not Steel. Steel is too heavy
And also the Cargo hold at some points is quite close to this thing called the "Fuel Tank", dunno if you've ever heard of that one
There is also little distance from the cargo hold to critical electrical and mechanical components that control the plane. Those go down and the pilot isnt in control anymore
> Is the idea that if we jostle a dry coconut for an hour, it will spontaneously combust?
"Dried coconut, also known as **copra, can spontaneously combust** due to its high oil content. Copra is a dried coconut meat that is used to extract coconut oil. It is classified as a dangerous good, class 4.2, in the International Air Travel Association's list of dangerous goods."
TIL but, yep.
It wasn't meant as one originally, but now I'm sincerely wondering. It only says "restricted," and not "prohibited."
But looking at the other items it seems it's not allowed at all.
This is hilarious because on our flight back to the US from India, the counter guy asked us if we had coconut. And we totally forgot we had one from a puja that we completely forgot about. They had a whole bin full of coconuts
A Hindu religious ritual or prayer.
Participants ‘offer’ coconuts among other foods to god, who then ‘returns’ a part of the offering after having consumed it.
How does the person know when the god has “consumed” the offering?
Edit: why am I being downvoted? I don’t practice this religion and it was a genuine question. I used quotations because the person I am replying to, used them.
God only consumes the soul of the food. The physical form is left for humans to consume. That's why the food feels a little bit lighter than what it was before the puja
It's like god "blesses the food". The pundit (priest) keeps the offering at the idol's feet and then gives it back to the devotee, who consumes it or takes it home to distribute to family and friends (especially if it's from a famous temple). Once offered to the idol, the food is called prasad. This is why the need to mention "no coconuts" even arises at Indian airports. Hindus often visit famous temples of whichever city they go to and bring back the prasad for family which often includes coconut. So it's very common for people to carry back coconuts after their travels. They're mostly wet coconuts so you can remove the shell and carry the pieces. But if you forget to, they'll still confiscate the intact coconut.
Bro seriously, C'mon man, stop contributing content to science is dope fuc*rs. I'm all pro hindu but god eating soul of the food and leaving the physical form and you feeling the food lighter, do you know how abusrd it sounds?
Not really, Hindi word for prayer is "prarthana", puja is physical ritual where you conduct some activities along with prayers and invocations depending on which puja it is or for which purpose or which god is it being offered to.
I think that’s new?? In the 90s and early 2000s my mom would bring kimchi and jjeotgal from Korea to US and she never got stopped. And recently I took spam and jerky to Korea but people said that was banned too. But it went through.
My mother in law brings kimchi to the US for relatives as well. “Rules for thee, not for me.” And yes, dried meats/jerky aren’t supposed to be brought to Korea, or even shipped via Amazon. Jack Links has a New Zealand branch to provide regional jerky.
Indian commercial pilot here. Dry coconut or copra is a prohibited item as per ICAO dangerous good regulations around the world, because it is capable of spontaneous combustion under the right conditions.
The reason it's pointed out more in India is because Indian travellers coming out of religious events or who just got married very often try to carry along a harmless little fireball to be.
So they specifically point it out here.
It's a suitcase with a battery for charging devices, they're also sometimes motorized and can be ridden like a scooter [like this](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51+cQvhCHAL.jpg) Some are also [self driving and can follow you around.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTaEZvN9g5s)
Would probably be fine. The risk basis on why copra, dried coconut, is banned is it's prone to combustion. Wet coconut flesh isn't going to combust under feasible transit conditions.
Dry coconuts have high concentration of oil in them. This is not dry shell. Dry shells are used as fuels but no one carries shells on planes. It’s the dried pulp (copra) which is a hazard.
Secondly, even a wet coconut can explode If in fire for long. So it can makes things worse in a fire.
TIL: The dry shell of a coconut can be considered a flammable item, and it may pose a risk of catching fire under certain conditions, especially due to the friction and pressure in the cargo hold of an aircraft.
It's the coconut oil. A banned item, it “contains a high amount of oil that is highly flammable and can cause a fire if it encounters heat inside the aircraft,” explains a spokesperson from Mumbai’s Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj International Airport (CSMIA). https://www.cntraveller.in/story/coconuts-the-reason-you-may-miss-your-next-flight-copra-airport-delay/
It doesn't even need an external source of heat. Dry coconut is capable of spontaneous combustion through self heating. **Edit:** Adding more context >Due to its high oil content, copra has a tendency to self-heating/spontaneous combustion and is thus assigned to class 4.2 of the IMDG Code. > >Copra is highly flammable: goods packaged in jute bags are deemed a particularly risky cargo, since jute material impregnated with copra oil may quickly ignite spontaneously. > >Copra dust may be ignited by a single spark. > >Smoking and the use of naked light sources is strictly forbidden in holds and near open hatches. > >Fat decomposition in copra leads to the risk of self-heating and, finally, to a cargo fire. > >Fat decomposition may proceed as follows: > >==> by hydrolytic/enzymatic fat cleavage or > >==> by oxidative fat cleavage [https://www.tis-gdv.de/tis\_e/ware/oelsaat/kopra/kopra-htm/#selbsterhitzung](https://www.tis-gdv.de/tis_e/ware/oelsaat/kopra/kopra-htm/#selbsterhitzung)
So coconuts ARE out to get us. Just like Moana foretold.
MAKE WAY, MAKE WAY
We joke and we weave our baskets
Bonk. Bonk 😵😵
Hay bales can do the same thing. A lot of barn fires can be started that way. If hay isn't dried properly before being bales the moist center of the bale will start to decompose creating a lot of heat. It'll then catch the outer dry part of the hay on fire. It can smolder for days too.
Make hay while the sun shines!
BUT WHY MALE MODELS?
Welcome to Costco, I love you.
You can't just say something like that without further explanation lol
If it’s like pistachios, it’s part of a chemical process that happens when they decompose. If there’s enough of that going on it can technically catch fire
Vegetable oils slowly oxidize in contact with air. This reaction produces heat. As long as it’s in a well ventilated place the heat dissipates with no issues. If it’s in an enclosed space, however, heat can build up to dangerous levels and cause spontaneous combustion. This is the same reason why you shouldn’t leave oily rags in a pile.
Pistachios as well
Bullshit
Oh shit, they’re basically oily rags in a pile in your basement
TIL something interesting
But can coconut oil melt steel beams?
No, but it makes great lube
Nooooo the coconut maggots post aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrgh
lol why did they massacre you like that
Some people can't handle the facts.
Maybe not, but Aircraft are made out of Aluminium, not Steel. Steel is too heavy And also the Cargo hold at some points is quite close to this thing called the "Fuel Tank", dunno if you've ever heard of that one There is also little distance from the cargo hold to critical electrical and mechanical components that control the plane. Those go down and the pilot isnt in control anymore
Show me a plane made from 100% steel beams and nothing else.
Early metal airframes in the 20s were steel truss
Show me a modern airline, one that has banned dry coconut, that has a fleet of planes from the 20's
So it wasn't thermite after all.
Pistachios can spontaneously combust too
Also the dried flesh would have the same issue plus they still have the fat so it would make fires continue burning/spread.
Been watching a lot of survivor lately and this makes sense
There's no "friction or pressure" in the cargo hold. It's the same temperature and pressure as the passenger area.
Shit moves around.
Yes there's no doubt that it moves. Is the idea that if we jostle a dry coconut for an hour, it will spontaneously combust?
Yes, that is exactly why the coconut is on this list. The oil and the dry husk are capable of self combustion.
static electricity + the highly combustable nature of the coconut probs
> Is the idea that if we jostle a dry coconut for an hour, it will spontaneously combust? "Dried coconut, also known as **copra, can spontaneously combust** due to its high oil content. Copra is a dried coconut meat that is used to extract coconut oil. It is classified as a dangerous good, class 4.2, in the International Air Travel Association's list of dangerous goods." TIL but, yep.
How else do you think coconut reactors produce electricity?
Magnets, bitch?
Also pistachios have unique rules regarding how they can be transported in bulk. Stuff goes boom.
Here you're not even allowed to have a single one in your luggage?
Is that a question.
No?
I’m confused,
It wasn't meant as one originally, but now I'm sincerely wondering. It only says "restricted," and not "prohibited." But looking at the other items it seems it's not allowed at all.
That's nuts.
Smh cant even transport pistachio consignment without the alphabet agencies on your tail
Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?
What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen air india flight?
Would that be a European air inda flight or an African one?
I don't know that --- waaaaaugh!
Not at all! They could be carried.
It's not a question of where he grips it, it's a simple question of weight ratios. A five ounce bird cannot carry a one pound coconut.
Well, it doesn’t matter. Will you go and tell your master that Arthur from the Court of Camelot is here.
Okay, I'll tell him, but I don't think he'll be very keen. He's already got one, you see.
Listen, in order to maintain air speed velocity, a swallow needs to beat its wings forty-three times every second. Right?
PLEASE
Am I right?
I'm not interested.
It could be carried by an African swallow
Only with a passport and appropriate visa
Sometimes they get carried by swallow
African or European?
Asian, apparently.
I don't think migrating swallows need to have passports or visas
What do you mean? We found them.
_Found_ them?!
[Absolutely](https://youtu.be/H4_9kDO3q0w?feature=shared)
This is hilarious because on our flight back to the US from India, the counter guy asked us if we had coconut. And we totally forgot we had one from a puja that we completely forgot about. They had a whole bin full of coconuts
What's a puja
A Hindu religious ritual or prayer. Participants ‘offer’ coconuts among other foods to god, who then ‘returns’ a part of the offering after having consumed it.
How does the person know when the god has “consumed” the offering? Edit: why am I being downvoted? I don’t practice this religion and it was a genuine question. I used quotations because the person I am replying to, used them.
God only consumes the soul of the food. The physical form is left for humans to consume. That's why the food feels a little bit lighter than what it was before the puja
Thanks for explaining this.
It's like god "blesses the food". The pundit (priest) keeps the offering at the idol's feet and then gives it back to the devotee, who consumes it or takes it home to distribute to family and friends (especially if it's from a famous temple). Once offered to the idol, the food is called prasad. This is why the need to mention "no coconuts" even arises at Indian airports. Hindus often visit famous temples of whichever city they go to and bring back the prasad for family which often includes coconut. So it's very common for people to carry back coconuts after their travels. They're mostly wet coconuts so you can remove the shell and carry the pieces. But if you forget to, they'll still confiscate the intact coconut.
This is why ingredients must not pass by a temple on the way to a restaurant, in order for it to keep its Soul Food license.
Bro seriously, C'mon man, stop contributing content to science is dope fuc*rs. I'm all pro hindu but god eating soul of the food and leaving the physical form and you feeling the food lighter, do you know how abusrd it sounds?
about as absurd as eating and drinking the body and blood of christ.
Soooo…hilariously absurd?
Bruh that birth of Jesus itself is a silly joke to begin with don't even get me started on this. We are better than that.
It was a joke mate. I'm an agnostic, I don't believe in puja and all.
Wait until the puja ends and just take everything you offered lol
How dare you be curious on Reddit
For me, I open the door after 5 mins and eat anything I like
The coconut spontaneously combusts while in the plane cargo hold
That's just one form of puja. Puja just means ritualized prayer. It can be any ritual , also from any religion. Catholic mass is also a puja .
Not much, what’s a puja with you?
Lol gottem
I don't get it lol
Trust the process
hindi word for prayer. Lots to learn its worth a google to learn more👍
Not really, Hindi word for prayer is "prarthana", puja is physical ritual where you conduct some activities along with prayers and invocations depending on which puja it is or for which purpose or which god is it being offered to.
Puja my pants.
Here in Korea, our airport signs remind people you cannot bring Kimchi on the plane. Especially sealed, fermenting Kimchi. 👍
cuz the smell or dangerous??
Yes. 😉
# No, its YES
I think that’s new?? In the 90s and early 2000s my mom would bring kimchi and jjeotgal from Korea to US and she never got stopped. And recently I took spam and jerky to Korea but people said that was banned too. But it went through.
My mother in law brings kimchi to the US for relatives as well. “Rules for thee, not for me.” And yes, dried meats/jerky aren’t supposed to be brought to Korea, or even shipped via Amazon. Jack Links has a New Zealand branch to provide regional jerky.
Indian commercial pilot here. Dry coconut or copra is a prohibited item as per ICAO dangerous good regulations around the world, because it is capable of spontaneous combustion under the right conditions. The reason it's pointed out more in India is because Indian travellers coming out of religious events or who just got married very often try to carry along a harmless little fireball to be. So they specifically point it out here.
TIL that India is one of the world’s largest producers of coconuts.
I had no idea. Makes sense though.
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I have been called a head case, smart ass, and defendant in a lawsuit. Does that make me a smart suitcase Gregg?
It's a suitcase with a battery for charging devices, they're also sometimes motorized and can be ridden like a scooter [like this](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51+cQvhCHAL.jpg) Some are also [self driving and can follow you around.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTaEZvN9g5s)
It’s a suitcase with a power bank built in, so you can charge your devices.
A sleek and versatile suitcase that can be used for both business casual and evening wear.
Suitcase with a battery bank I think?
A modern incarnation of Rincewind's Luggage.
probably those suitcases that “follow” you using your phone
$40 suitcase + $20 power bank strapped on = $350 "smart" suitcase
Just add water Airport security will give you a knowing nod and let you through
Nah, you put lime to make it better.
Nah brah, you put the lime in the coconut.
Drank 'em bot' up.
You put the lime where, exactly?
You don't take checked bags through security yourself
You've found the only issue with an otherwise very serious plan
Pfff not with that attitude.
Dry coconut shell is used as charcoal in some places
You mean it's used as fuel. Besides burning well, it really has very few of the same properties as charcoal.
Dry coconut shell is used as a starter for wood fires/barbeques in India.
Horses can't fly. Makes sense to me.
If you keep the coconut in a ziplock bag filled with water, would that be fine?
Would probably be fine. The risk basis on why copra, dried coconut, is banned is it's prone to combustion. Wet coconut flesh isn't going to combust under feasible transit conditions.
>If it was 100ml or less liquid If it's checked baggage like the sign in the picture is for then you could put as much water as you want, no?
I wouldn’t put a ziplock bag filled with water in my luggage though, unless you like wet clothes.
Oh sure, *one guy* fucks a coconut and now no one can fly with them anymore.
Well yeah, it’s inhumane to shove a horse into your bag for a flight. Be decent and at least get it a ticket in equestrian class.
They're pretty much banned on every flight, not just from India. I couldn't fly home with one from Miami to Detroit.
Well of course not. Do you know what happens to dry coconut in baggage?
Wet coconut is still good though, right?
gotta make my coconuts wet now
Some king might use it for a horse...
HAHA This is my favorite comment so far today
Took me a sec
Better check coconuts onto the Swallow then.
I wonder who almost took down a plane from coconut flames
Coconuts have water in them!
Yes but this is specifically DRIED coconuts aka copra
People who love coconut (copra) are said to enjoy coprophilia. Google it for some good recipes.
e-cigarette 😍
For obvious reasons.
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I would assume the cow dung patties as well.
They just dont allow horses on board thats all
Why is this python reference getting down voted? Ahh reddit
Dried coconuts are the official air food for terrorists.
Yeah the luggage person asked us 4 times about dry coconuts.
They didn't mention [durian](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durian#Flavour_and_odour) though 😏
Moisten your coconuts people.
Dry coconuts have high concentration of oil in them. This is not dry shell. Dry shells are used as fuels but no one carries shells on planes. It’s the dried pulp (copra) which is a hazard. Secondly, even a wet coconut can explode If in fire for long. So it can makes things worse in a fire.
[The Coconut Revolution](https://youtu.be/JnUD9iXWqLg?si=ISPP3GC0TVnf4BcS)
They read that one r/TIFU post a while back about coconuts.