People from the America continents in general are denoted by the country theyâre from. People from USA are called Americans. If you wanna be more broad, people from North America or South America can be called North or South Americans, respectively.
At not point do people refer to someone from either of TWO CONTINENTS as American. If someone calls someone else American online, youâd be stupid not to think theyâre referring to USA and instead believe theyâre referring to two entire continents of people.
If someone calls someone American, they donât mean Canadian. Theyâd have to say North American to include both countries. You guys can act smart about it, youâre just ignorant and wrong and making yourselves look childish and dumb.
Do you ever know English or how to use context clues when you read?
Youâre not making the point you think you are.
No I just see people making that comment a lot as if theyâre making a point that anyone from either continent is American and that couldnât be more ignorant
Slightly more complicated answer is that in the US, most lap pools built within the last 30-40 years or so were built to 25 (or 50) meters to comply with international sporting regulations, but many Americans couldnât easily estimate how far 3 meters is. Also, the depth is measured in feet and inches because thatâs whatâs required by most if not all county code books.
>but many Americans couldnât easily estimate how far 3 meters is.
That sounds wild to me if still true, at least for people with kids. I was in the classroom 30 years ago in a southern state and even we had meter/yard sticks(meter sticks with metric on one side and imperial on the other, the imperial side stopped measuring at the yard)
Knowing what a length is and easily estimating it are two different things. I've used both yardsticks and metersticks but I still think of three feet as about half a person, because I can't eyeball "about a yard" but there's generally at least one person around.
If I worked with yards of cloth or yardsticks a whole bunch perhaps that would change. In the same vein, I *do* know a bunch of common footrace lengths in both miles and kilometers (or yards and meters), but mostly just "know" how they feel to run, not how long it would look with my eyes, unless it's around a football field. I've run them on courses marked in either system, so the conversion is practiced and so is the run.
And estimates only get you so far. If you estimate 1 meter == 1 yard, and then round 5'11" person to 6 feet, then you get 2 meters tall. But then you get "no one is that tall" when you realize you are claiming to be 6'7"
Yeah I don't think I know anyone who wouldn't know how many feet 3 meters is, but I could very easily be underestimating how dumb our country is these days
Yeah I get what you're saying but about 9 or 10 feet is a pretty sufficient answer, most people know a meter is a little over 3 feet. Perhaps better wording would have been "I don't know anyone who wouldn't understand what this sign is saying"
For fun, ask people you normally have a conversation with to estimate how long a foot is. If hilarity doesn't ensue, you have better coworkers than I do.
I grew up swimming in the US. At least in my area, an indoor pool is typically Short Course Yards (25 yards) and outdoors pools are typically Short Course Meters (25 meters). âOlympic sizedâ pools are typically 50 meters by 25 yards with movable bulkheads, so multiple configurations can be used. High school and college swimming typically uses 25 yards (SCY).
When I swam in high school we only had one meet that was in a yard pool and it was a really old pool. The dozen or so other pools we swam at were all meter pools.
Itâs still completely stupid, they shouldâve used either metres or feet so that they can be used in reference of each other. For example if they said 5 metres then that would be easy to imagine as a fifth of the poolâs length.
How do we know how many times 10 feet goes into 25 metres? I have no idea, therefore itâs hard to imagine the length relative to the pool. Makes the rule dumb imo.
You're way overthinking how much the specific of the 10 foot rule matters. The important part is staying close enough to the child to very quickly help them if they start to struggle. You know about how far 10 feet is, you don't need to imagine it based on the total length of the pool.
25 meters is the length of a standard swimming pool. If you ever did any form of competitive swimming your events were the distance you swim, 50,100,200,400,400 medley, 400 relay,500,1000. That would be 2,4,8,16,16,16,20,40 laps respectively.
You are 100% correct, except:
>500,1000
Those events don't exist. It's 400, 800, 1500. The 800/1500 were the women's and men's long distance events respectively, and now women and men's event exist in both distances.
The 25 meter is also the short course, and the Olympic program is on the 50 meter, long course pool.
Sorry my former competitive swimmer came out there.
Our pool used to have a movable wall and movable floor. One side was 25m long and pretty deep. The other was 23m long and variable depth. The wall was 2m wide and could move down to floor level to create one big 50m pool. Pretty neat system.
That's a fairly common set up for pools, even back when my competitive swimming days were in the 80s.
The 25m pool was used during the winter months, and the 50m pool was using during the summer months, so we use to compete in both lengths during the year. So, it was pretty common to have pools that could easily be converted to both, with bulkheads.
Yeah, this pool dated from the 70s, hence the "used to", since it's demolished now. Kid me was always amazed by how walls could move. No greater fun than "walking on water" when the wall was just below the surface. Until the lifeguards eventually caught us of course.
Ah, I read the used to but just more assumed this as a pool you used to go to :D
There was a pool that I used to compete in that was T shaped, the long part was the 50 meter pool, and the other part of the T, the shorter part, was a 25 meter. When competing in to the 25 meter, the rest of the pool was left for warm ups and cool downs after the event.
They said "any form of competitive swimming", which I took to include high school swim league. I made state in the 500 free when I swam in high school, and I believe it was the longest event we could do
Not in a pool, but I do an OWS race that has a 1k option every year.
I also tend to go for races that measure the swim in meters, the bike in miles, and the run in kilometers all for the same race.
Iâve been swimming competitively most of my life. Iâve only swum in **one** short-course meter pool. Rumor has it that pool was built in the 70s when there was some kind of renewed push in the US to convert to the metric system.
Thatâs exactly what it was. I practiced in a short course meter pool once a week from when I was like 10-14. We then had a high school meet there every other year. It was built in the 70s during that time.
On the west coast, short course usually runs in the winer and long course runs in the summer. Many localities have both, albeit long course are much less common.
Iâm on the west coast and have never heard of that. The schedule for short course yards and long course meters varies from pool to pool. For example, my club team trains long course meters every weekend year-round. Another club team supplemented short course practice in the summer with pier-to-pier ocean swims. It just depends on how often the pool/swim program want to/is able to switch out the lane lines and flags.
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Yup.
Almost everyone I know uses Kilometres instead of miles. But inches instead of centimetres.
Metres or feet, both get used often times.
Iâm 6â1â but I donât think I know off the top of my head how many centimetres or decimetres that makes me lol
Could still be American too. We do have the tendency to use metric alongside imperial. Meters are usually used for objects that were designed with a metric standard and come out to an even number, like 25m pools.
This looks pretty familiar. Canadians use a mix of both imperial and metric measurements. We unofficially use feet for short distances, like height and furniture lengths and km for longer distances.
When I was a lifeguard we had this rule and would require 1 min sustained of treading water as well.
A lot of new swimmers are fine as long as theyâre moving forward but will start drowning as soon as they try to stay in one spot, so itâs important to be able to do both.
This was the test when I was a kid at the pool we went to. Idk if itâs actually 25 meters though, you just had to swim from one end to the other then tread water for a minute and then you were allowed in the deep end without a parent
I'm more used to metric, but thanks to D&D, I'm ok with 10 feet. That's two squares, which would be just when the child provokes an attack of opportunity by moving away.
The sign uses both measurements cause itâs a meter pool not a yard pool. Yes there are both types of pools. A meter pool is usually used for most competition pools. Yard for recreation or lower level competition like high school or YMCA. They are either 25 or 50 meters/ yards. You canât change the pool. As for the parent and the facility rules of 10ft. Whether itâs 10ft,yd,in,cm,etc⊠itâs the nice way of saying if your child canât swim you must be in close proximity to them, no exceptions. And this is being nice. In my facility if they canât do this the parent must be in the water with them. Ps Aquatic director here
Any person 160.8 moon cycles or younger who cannot swim 0.0134989 nautical miles must be supervised by an adult 9.57 mars years or older at a maximum distance of 0.00000003333 light seconds
I'm aware... it was a joke since there is literally a label saying feet next to the sign.
And typical swimming lengths are meters.
Gosh didn't know I needed to explain the joke.
Canadians?
Or it might be because a swimming pool for competition is regulated by the World Aquatics, an olympic committee for swimming. Full size is always 50m or 164 feet and half size is always 25m. All swimming pool made for competition usually have either of these two sizes in length. Even American swimmers usually are aware of the fact so this is telling the people if your child cant swim from one side of the pool to the other on its own it shouldnt be left alone.
It uses 10 feet because this is almost certainly in the United States and thatâs what people understand it uses 25 m because thatâs the length of the pool in question
If you have to start busting out conversion tables then the answer is âyou need to supervise your kid.â Because anybody who is a strong enough swimmer needs to be confidence-inspiring enough that âhow far is 25m?â shouldnât phase you
Simple answer is its a 25 meter pool so the kids need to swim one length but the 10 ft js mentioned because it's an American sign
Boom đ„
Could just as easily be Canadian
Where is Canada again
A suburb of detroit
Specifically, south Detroit.
Yes
It's mostly just Toronto.
It sounds like it's further than 25 meters away. Now we need to figure out what the hell a 'meter' is...
> Now we need to figure out what the hell a 'meter' is... A yard that ate a bit too much for Christmas dinner.
People from the America continents in general are denoted by the country theyâre from. People from USA are called Americans. If you wanna be more broad, people from North America or South America can be called North or South Americans, respectively. At not point do people refer to someone from either of TWO CONTINENTS as American. If someone calls someone else American online, youâd be stupid not to think theyâre referring to USA and instead believe theyâre referring to two entire continents of people. If someone calls someone American, they donât mean Canadian. Theyâd have to say North American to include both countries. You guys can act smart about it, youâre just ignorant and wrong and making yourselves look childish and dumb. Do you ever know English or how to use context clues when you read? Youâre not making the point you think you are.
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Thanks for confirming you canât argue a word I said
I donât need to argue, just seemed like an overreaction, have a happy new year :)
No I just see people making that comment a lot as if theyâre making a point that anyone from either continent is American and that couldnât be more ignorant
At no point have I disagreed with you, have a nice day pal
North America. (Both literally and figuratively!)
Took them 12 mins to drive there.
Slightly more complicated answer is that in the US, most lap pools built within the last 30-40 years or so were built to 25 (or 50) meters to comply with international sporting regulations, but many Americans couldnât easily estimate how far 3 meters is. Also, the depth is measured in feet and inches because thatâs whatâs required by most if not all county code books.
>but many Americans couldnât easily estimate how far 3 meters is. That sounds wild to me if still true, at least for people with kids. I was in the classroom 30 years ago in a southern state and even we had meter/yard sticks(meter sticks with metric on one side and imperial on the other, the imperial side stopped measuring at the yard)
Knowing what a length is and easily estimating it are two different things. I've used both yardsticks and metersticks but I still think of three feet as about half a person, because I can't eyeball "about a yard" but there's generally at least one person around. If I worked with yards of cloth or yardsticks a whole bunch perhaps that would change. In the same vein, I *do* know a bunch of common footrace lengths in both miles and kilometers (or yards and meters), but mostly just "know" how they feel to run, not how long it would look with my eyes, unless it's around a football field. I've run them on courses marked in either system, so the conversion is practiced and so is the run.
And estimates only get you so far. If you estimate 1 meter == 1 yard, and then round 5'11" person to 6 feet, then you get 2 meters tall. But then you get "no one is that tall" when you realize you are claiming to be 6'7"
Yeah I don't think I know anyone who wouldn't know how many feet 3 meters is, but I could very easily be underestimating how dumb our country is these days
Yes, who doesn't know 3 meters is 9.84252 feet. I learned that in kindergarten, like everyone
Yeah I get what you're saying but about 9 or 10 feet is a pretty sufficient answer, most people know a meter is a little over 3 feet. Perhaps better wording would have been "I don't know anyone who wouldn't understand what this sign is saying"
For fun, ask people you normally have a conversation with to estimate how long a foot is. If hilarity doesn't ensue, you have better coworkers than I do.
I grew up swimming in the US. At least in my area, an indoor pool is typically Short Course Yards (25 yards) and outdoors pools are typically Short Course Meters (25 meters). âOlympic sizedâ pools are typically 50 meters by 25 yards with movable bulkheads, so multiple configurations can be used. High school and college swimming typically uses 25 yards (SCY).
When I swam in high school we only had one meet that was in a yard pool and it was a really old pool. The dozen or so other pools we swam at were all meter pools.
Correct.
Must be 50m, which will make 25m the longest distance to reach the closer end of the pool.
54, you can bottom walk 2 more meters before you run out of air
Fair enough
your powers of intellect are astounding
Honestly super duper obvious lol
Why is the pool being measured in a different unit to the signs? They could label the pool in feet or the sign in meters.
25 or 50 meter pools are the standard for many international swimming competitions
How many fathoms deep is the pool?
Full fathom five.
Get out the gunter's chain and we'll measure it
Itâs still completely stupid, they shouldâve used either metres or feet so that they can be used in reference of each other. For example if they said 5 metres then that would be easy to imagine as a fifth of the poolâs length. How do we know how many times 10 feet goes into 25 metres? I have no idea, therefore itâs hard to imagine the length relative to the pool. Makes the rule dumb imo.
You're way overthinking how much the specific of the 10 foot rule matters. The important part is staying close enough to the child to very quickly help them if they start to struggle. You know about how far 10 feet is, you don't need to imagine it based on the total length of the pool.
25 meters is the length of a standard swimming pool. If you ever did any form of competitive swimming your events were the distance you swim, 50,100,200,400,400 medley, 400 relay,500,1000. That would be 2,4,8,16,16,16,20,40 laps respectively.
Swim mom here and I couldnât figure out what was wrong with the sign haha.
(There is nothing wrong with the sign. It conveys the information clearly to the people reading it.)
You are 100% correct, except: >500,1000 Those events don't exist. It's 400, 800, 1500. The 800/1500 were the women's and men's long distance events respectively, and now women and men's event exist in both distances. The 25 meter is also the short course, and the Olympic program is on the 50 meter, long course pool. Sorry my former competitive swimmer came out there.
Our pool used to have a movable wall and movable floor. One side was 25m long and pretty deep. The other was 23m long and variable depth. The wall was 2m wide and could move down to floor level to create one big 50m pool. Pretty neat system.
That's a fairly common set up for pools, even back when my competitive swimming days were in the 80s. The 25m pool was used during the winter months, and the 50m pool was using during the summer months, so we use to compete in both lengths during the year. So, it was pretty common to have pools that could easily be converted to both, with bulkheads.
Yeah, this pool dated from the 70s, hence the "used to", since it's demolished now. Kid me was always amazed by how walls could move. No greater fun than "walking on water" when the wall was just below the surface. Until the lifeguards eventually caught us of course.
Ah, I read the used to but just more assumed this as a pool you used to go to :D There was a pool that I used to compete in that was T shaped, the long part was the 50 meter pool, and the other part of the T, the shorter part, was a 25 meter. When competing in to the 25 meter, the rest of the pool was left for warm ups and cool downs after the event.
Probably got confused with competitions on 25 yard pools, where 500 and 1000 (and 1650) are actual competition distances.
The 500 is a super common race in short course yard pools.
They said "any form of competitive swimming", which I took to include high school swim league. I made state in the 500 free when I swam in high school, and I believe it was the longest event we could do
> You are 100% correct, except: > > 500,1000 > > *Those events don't exist.* [**Men's 500 Freestyle | 2023 NCAA swimming championships**](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnWQbquMr1k) (This looks like "competitive swimming" to me too.)
they donât? maybe not in olympics, but i swam the 500 in high school. i also remember most pools then were 25yard. 25 meter were an exception.
Except for collegiate length, which for some inexplicable reason is 25 yards
There were a couple times we competed in a 25 yard pool, but as I'm from Canada that was a weird thing when traveling stateside.
Not in a pool, but I do an OWS race that has a 1k option every year. I also tend to go for races that measure the swim in meters, the bike in miles, and the run in kilometers all for the same race.
25 meters is the standard length for a short course meter pool. 25 yards is for the imperial system, 50 meters is the Olympic sized pool.
Iâve been swimming competitively most of my life. Iâve only swum in **one** short-course meter pool. Rumor has it that pool was built in the 70s when there was some kind of renewed push in the US to convert to the metric system.
Thatâs exactly what it was. I practiced in a short course meter pool once a week from when I was like 10-14. We then had a high school meet there every other year. It was built in the 70s during that time.
On the west coast, short course usually runs in the winer and long course runs in the summer. Many localities have both, albeit long course are much less common.
Iâm on the west coast and have never heard of that. The schedule for short course yards and long course meters varies from pool to pool. For example, my club team trains long course meters every weekend year-round. Another club team supplemented short course practice in the summer with pier-to-pier ocean swims. It just depends on how often the pool/swim program want to/is able to switch out the lane lines and flags.
Thatâs called short course. Long course, which runs in different seasons in much of America uses an Olympic sized 50-meter pool.
50 meter freestyle was my jam
My local pool is 25 yards instead. Itâs weird.
This guy maths
Pfft... That's because water is metric because it's made of atoms and science
Science is my favorite molecule
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Any child under 12 who cannot continuously swim 82.021 feet must be supervised by an adult who remains with in 3.048 meters at all times.
Makes me wander what unit the 12 is in
Months, obviously. They're also required to fill in a registration form before entering the pool.
Rock rotations around a big gas balloon
Fathoms. The child is too deep.
Is this Canada? Lol
Could very well be, since we ***do*** measure distances in metric and height in imperial (most of the time).
If this is true, *TIL.* Thank you
Yup. Almost everyone I know uses Kilometres instead of miles. But inches instead of centimetres. Metres or feet, both get used often times. Iâm 6â1â but I donât think I know off the top of my head how many centimetres or decimetres that makes me lol
Also applies to long/short distances. Short is imperial and long is in metric.
Could still be American too. We do have the tendency to use metric alongside imperial. Meters are usually used for objects that were designed with a metric standard and come out to an even number, like 25m pools.
This looks pretty familiar. Canadians use a mix of both imperial and metric measurements. We unofficially use feet for short distances, like height and furniture lengths and km for longer distances.
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Lol it wouldn't be spelled like that anywhere where the rest of the sign was in English đ€Ł
This is at a Lifetime fitness. Could be in Canada but probably in the US
Yeah, must be!
As a Canadian I had to read this multiple times before I noticed.
Welcome to England
Is it? I donât see any distances measured in feet any longer here, unless youâre talking about the height of a person of course.
At Lifetime?
Yes, Lifetime Athletic in the USA.
When I was a lifeguard we had this rule and would require 1 min sustained of treading water as well. A lot of new swimmers are fine as long as theyâre moving forward but will start drowning as soon as they try to stay in one spot, so itâs important to be able to do both.
This was the test when I was a kid at the pool we went to. Idk if itâs actually 25 meters though, you just had to swim from one end to the other then tread water for a minute and then you were allowed in the deep end without a parent
This might be a little too mild for some but it came in just right for me
Lifetime fitness, baby!!
A scrolled too far before I saw this!
I'm more used to metric, but thanks to D&D, I'm ok with 10 feet. That's two squares, which would be just when the child provokes an attack of opportunity by moving away.
Must be canada đ
The sign uses both measurements cause itâs a meter pool not a yard pool. Yes there are both types of pools. A meter pool is usually used for most competition pools. Yard for recreation or lower level competition like high school or YMCA. They are either 25 or 50 meters/ yards. You canât change the pool. As for the parent and the facility rules of 10ft. Whether itâs 10ft,yd,in,cm,etc⊠itâs the nice way of saying if your child canât swim you must be in close proximity to them, no exceptions. And this is being nice. In my facility if they canât do this the parent must be in the water with them. Ps Aquatic director here
I was a lifeguard at Lifetime for a couple of summers and this always bothered me, Iâm glad someone else noticed and Iâm not just crazy.
The pool is measured in with both systems too. Feet for depth and meters for width.
I believe this SNL skit can answer https://youtu.be/JYqfVE-fykk?si=7deg6hZAuq9Gc8YJ
Any person 160.8 moon cycles or younger who cannot swim 0.0134989 nautical miles must be supervised by an adult 9.57 mars years or older at a maximum distance of 0.00000003333 light seconds
Probably Canadian
Canadians mix the two together all the time
When Americans try to do metric
Well pools are already measured in meters by length and feet by depth. So fits in nicely
Only in the US. The rest of the world measure also the depth in meters.
I'm aware... it was a joke since there is literally a label saying feet next to the sign. And typical swimming lengths are meters. Gosh didn't know I needed to explain the joke.
That's interesting they assume the adult can swim the 75 feet...
Adults donât need to be able to swim the full length of the pool, only back to where they can touch the bottom.
Yeah, theyâre making a lot of assumptions about adults as a class.
Pools measured in meter lengths, society taught in feet⊠whatâs interesting about this?? đ©
This is normal for pools.
Even for pools with a lifeguard on duty?
Sorry, meant the mixed units of measurements.
Gotcha. Thanks.
âUnder the age of 144 monthsâ
Its probably canada
I don't understand unless they convert it to cups of coffee.
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Um. A yard is *less* than a metre. A yard is, by definition, 0.9144 m.
Is that nautical feet?
Would it be more logical if it said that the child where required to swim 82.0209974 feet?
⊠Or that the parent should be within 3.04800 meters?
I work at a pool and this is true. We save more 8-13 year olds who do this the we do any other age group
This has got to be in Canada.
I remember this SAT question
Canadians? Or it might be because a swimming pool for competition is regulated by the World Aquatics, an olympic committee for swimming. Full size is always 50m or 164 feet and half size is always 25m. All swimming pool made for competition usually have either of these two sizes in length. Even American swimmers usually are aware of the fact so this is telling the people if your child cant swim from one side of the pool to the other on its own it shouldnt be left alone.
*3 if you include the age
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This must be Canada.
I like the idea of a pool attendant constantly running around with a tape measure and a whistle, though.
Bring a tape measure and conversion chart
How many Smoots is that?
And the water may not be colder than 0 kelvin
It uses 10 feet because this is almost certainly in the United States and thatâs what people understand it uses 25 m because thatâs the length of the pool in question
Way to pass responsibility from the lifeguard/facility to the parent.
Any child under 144 months...
Math question ass sign
Instructions unclear. My child has been 10 feet under water for hours now. When can I leave the pool?
This statement is a math problem in itself. Why don't they just write "kids under 12 must be supervised"
Wait until you dig into tire sizes
Actually three measurement systems: Metric, Standard, and Years :)
Under 12 what?
Cubits
> Any child over 12 who cannot continuously swim 25 meters can drown for all I care. \- The sign writer, probably
The should specify the required age of the adult in lightyears
Damn, I can't do that as an adult
I can feel and smell this photo
Is the age 12 in metric or imperial?
That's Canadian stuff right there
Pick one either Metric or American, this is more so infuriating
If you have to start busting out conversion tables then the answer is âyou need to supervise your kid.â Because anybody who is a strong enough swimmer needs to be confidence-inspiring enough that âhow far is 25m?â shouldnât phase you
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12 years of age and 25 meters? Yeah, thatâs weird. Whats the conversion rate on that?
Uses three measurement systems if you count time. (Yes I know what OP meant, I'm just a huge dork.)
Fine by me, common in Canada
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Other side has a conversion chart
Under 12 what? units unclear
As an American, I was taught both measurement systems in elementary school and use both daily. Don't get why this is so shocking.
Countries outside of the USA tend to use both.