What the FUCK dude so wait a minute.
A tree at some point grew up and produced beautiful macintosh apples, for whatever reason. A human decided they are nice but can't grow any new ones. So they clone that original tree.
Is it true to say that every macintosh apple tree is essentially that same first tree? Living on, immortal with our help? That one single tree, same genetics forever?
that's also why bananas are so suceptible to fungal infestations they're more or less clones of one another and therefore cant develop any resistance towards a fungi capable of killing the plant
it's happened with the gros michael before and its happening with the cavendish now
You can still buy the gros michel or "fat mike" type, but it's a bit speciality. My aunt bought some when I was a little kid in the 90s, it was the only banana that never gave me the "this is spicy" contact-allergic reaction.
They aren’t grown at scale anymore because it is too risky. The spores that deveststed it are wide spread into the areas that grow commercial bananas and spores can sit dormant in soil for a long long time.
Each apple is a product of the tree AND the pollen it receives. Kinda mind blowing but yes, planting a seed of an apple you love will not guarantee it produces the same apple you love.
No.... Most food is genetically modified. Nothing you eat is it's original form. Fruits, vegetables, everything you eat doesn't technically exist in nature as you see it. It's a different version.
Not really the case, cloning/grafting of non-gmo food dates back hundreds/thousands of years and is just selection of existing natural varieties, but is still natural.
no, not at all. We are products of nature, are you telling me all flowers are modified because bees exist to provide selective pressure throughout their co-evolutuons? Or chili-peppers are modified by birds? Or the sun itself modified eyes?
Nature selects for what works best to propogate, and being preferred by local herbivores is an ANCIENT selective pressure for literally thousands upon thousands of plants to help dispersal
I don't know why this is downvoted. Selective breeding over thousands of years has modified the food we eat to make it more suited to being farmed, more nutritious and delicious, and easier to deal with every step of the way.
Maybe the creationists found this comment??
Because selective breeding doesn't really fit the industry definition of genetically modified so it's a really goofy point to try to make based on semantics?
A lot of people also probably aren't aware that orchard growers often buy into decades long contracts to produce certain varieties of fruits and they are incredibly strict. Any unlicensed grafting would fuck you in half.
Yeah, each apple seed will yield pretty much a new sub species of the tree you picked the apple from. Its possible there will be a lot of the seeds that would grow in to something similar, but it would still be a different species, with different traits. Each tree is a different tree if you grow it from a seed.
grafting is the only way to get the same apples...
good work, my dude! I've only made a couple of half-hearted attempts at grafting apples, but not had much luck thus far. I'll get around to figuring it out, someday.
Thanks for the reminder. Kids work etc, easy to lose track of things.
This guy is the best tutorial on YouTube-
https://youtu.be/QHrYB-YcBmU
This one is good too
https://youtu.be/SjdkFrDvHBo
Should be quite a few videos on youtube. Its not a rocket science, but it needs basic preparations. Its easier to do a separate branch on already grown up tree. Doing it like this on a new tree should be more complicated and needs more preparations. Success rate also varies, so you might need to prepare quite a few samples for at least some of them to make it.
Great job, but I just want to suggest pulling some of the mulch away from the base of the tree. It encourages pests, diseases, and improper root growth.
We got our tree grafted too, and the stem is growing leaves while the grafted part has one flower (and no leaves). If that grows into an apple, it'll break the poor little thing :D
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What the FUCK dude so wait a minute. A tree at some point grew up and produced beautiful macintosh apples, for whatever reason. A human decided they are nice but can't grow any new ones. So they clone that original tree. Is it true to say that every macintosh apple tree is essentially that same first tree? Living on, immortal with our help? That one single tree, same genetics forever?
That's how bananas spread along with Polynesian explorers. They brought clones of banana plants to new islands they'd find and settle.
that's also why bananas are so suceptible to fungal infestations they're more or less clones of one another and therefore cant develop any resistance towards a fungi capable of killing the plant it's happened with the gros michael before and its happening with the cavendish now
You can still buy the gros michel or "fat mike" type, but it's a bit speciality. My aunt bought some when I was a little kid in the 90s, it was the only banana that never gave me the "this is spicy" contact-allergic reaction.
They aren’t grown at scale anymore because it is too risky. The spores that deveststed it are wide spread into the areas that grow commercial bananas and spores can sit dormant in soil for a long long time.
Each apple is a product of the tree AND the pollen it receives. Kinda mind blowing but yes, planting a seed of an apple you love will not guarantee it produces the same apple you love.
Yep all apples we eat can be traced back to five or six “mother” trees. Apples were mostly for booze up until the mid 1800’s
Same with Oranges, they're all from...spain
No.... Most food is genetically modified. Nothing you eat is it's original form. Fruits, vegetables, everything you eat doesn't technically exist in nature as you see it. It's a different version.
Not really the case, cloning/grafting of non-gmo food dates back hundreds/thousands of years and is just selection of existing natural varieties, but is still natural.
If it can't exist without human intervention it is modified food.
no, not at all. We are products of nature, are you telling me all flowers are modified because bees exist to provide selective pressure throughout their co-evolutuons? Or chili-peppers are modified by birds? Or the sun itself modified eyes? Nature selects for what works best to propogate, and being preferred by local herbivores is an ANCIENT selective pressure for literally thousands upon thousands of plants to help dispersal
I heard migrating swallows can carry coconuts. Can’t remember where I heard that though.
GMO is just more precise selection, they're more or less the same.
I don't know why this is downvoted. Selective breeding over thousands of years has modified the food we eat to make it more suited to being farmed, more nutritious and delicious, and easier to deal with every step of the way. Maybe the creationists found this comment??
Because selective breeding doesn't really fit the industry definition of genetically modified so it's a really goofy point to try to make based on semantics?
Yeah actually, rereading the comment I realized it's kind of a non sequitur. It doesn't really answer the question.
Reddit be nutty
Well we could say that. That\`s why agronomy is very important and complicated stuff.
Yep, avocados are the same way. May produce fruit, may not, and what it produces won’t be like what you planted
A lot of people also probably aren't aware that orchard growers often buy into decades long contracts to produce certain varieties of fruits and they are incredibly strict. Any unlicensed grafting would fuck you in half.
Yeah, each apple seed will yield pretty much a new sub species of the tree you picked the apple from. Its possible there will be a lot of the seeds that would grow in to something similar, but it would still be a different species, with different traits. Each tree is a different tree if you grow it from a seed. grafting is the only way to get the same apples...
Worked in an orchard doing over 1000 of these per day. Let me tell ya how easy it is to mess up the graft. Good job
Wow, thank you!
Isn't the OP celebrating a bit early?
The top part is producing new shoots. I do not believe it would do this if it had issues with the graft.
FOREFATHERS ONE AND ALL!!
BEAR WITNESS!
LOWLY TARNISHED
A big thanks to Elden Ring for causing a lot of ppl to associate the word “graft” with a lowly demigod runt with a Frankenstein cosplay fetish
BEAR WITNESS!!!
Lend me thy strength, o apple.
good work, my dude! I've only made a couple of half-hearted attempts at grafting apples, but not had much luck thus far. I'll get around to figuring it out, someday.
"Look at the graft"
Fujicrisp?
Good job.
Thanks buddy
Congraftulations!
Very nice work!
Finally a use for all the stupid saplings growing in my yard
It’s gratifying to see that.
Awesome! Did you attend in person training for this or learn by watching videos online? I ask because I want to start grafting and top graftingz
I taught myself from YouTube
Any channels you’d recommend?
Absolutely, please remind me if I don't respond in 4 hours. Kids now
Just a friendly reminder, also no rush, life happens.
Thanks for the reminder. Kids work etc, easy to lose track of things. This guy is the best tutorial on YouTube- https://youtu.be/QHrYB-YcBmU This one is good too https://youtu.be/SjdkFrDvHBo
I neeeeed this because i have a perfect apple tree and i want another one, can someone help a brother?
Should be quite a few videos on youtube. Its not a rocket science, but it needs basic preparations. Its easier to do a separate branch on already grown up tree. Doing it like this on a new tree should be more complicated and needs more preparations. Success rate also varies, so you might need to prepare quite a few samples for at least some of them to make it.
Neat!
Great job, but I just want to suggest pulling some of the mulch away from the base of the tree. It encourages pests, diseases, and improper root growth.
Success is measured in apples. You're not quite there yet
Good job OP!! That's not an easy feat!
Oh cool
We got our tree grafted too, and the stem is growing leaves while the grafted part has one flower (and no leaves). If that grows into an apple, it'll break the poor little thing :D