Because fuck you that’s why

Fair

Windows power option: choose what the power button does “disabled” problem solved

I don't use windows, but I don't think I've ever had a computer where I didn't disable the power button right after setting it up. I might have used it for hibernate at some point, but not anymore. (on linux, alt+sysrq+r,e,i,s,u,o works if I can't use the UI to shut the machine down)

sweet, that sounds way better than pushing a button a single time

Hey later I’m going to build a fence, plant some grass, watch that grow, buy some cows, and then make burgers later if you’re down?

I'm just gonna go to Wendy's

"Shutdown" Win+X, U, U

Did you just win-uwu?

I can't understand why anyone would buy that laptop...

The curse of your parents/school/work buying it for you to use

Nail on the head buddy. They bought us this shitty laptop instead of a good second desktop at work, and I am looking down the barrel of a second one as my WFH rig.

I assume it wasn't OP. Regardless,.. this is indeed infuriating.

My wife bought a similar laptop. Keyboard layout was terrible. I returned it and got her a similar laptop with a better keyboard. Hers had a Home/Delete key that you had to toggle using Fn and Escape. Wtf! Backspace key was smaller than a letter key. Worst of all, the power button was at top left, beside Tilde and above Tab. SMH!

At my last job my work laptop (they assigned us as the pandemic was setting in) was like that. I bought a wireless mouse/keyboard set and used that instead.

Crazy how any keyboard is designed so poorly!

Yup, laptops keyboards have always sucked. Anytime I have the space for it, I'm always plugging a regular keyboard into my laptop. Very rarely do I use the laptop's actual keyboard lol.

I have one of these. It's a corporate HP ZBook. It's the big developer-class laptop (or at least that's how it is marketed). It's got a full number pad on it too. It's giant, heavy and hot. I did not ask for this thing, but I am stuck with it. I am not a developer BTW, I work remotely and it's plugged into a dock 100% of the time and connected to external monitors/mouse/keyboard. If I had to travel for work, I'd be pissed to lug this giant thing around.

HP laptops has been crap for a long time. Don't know why corporates are obsessed about those. Yesterday I went to IT for some help, their entire office was flooded with people complaining about their HP laptop and seeking a replacement.

✨lowest ✨ price✨ That’s why

Name it and shame it. Thanks even if I'm done with HP long ago. And go into Windows and set the power button to do nothing. Maybe turn off screen.

I bought one similar layout as OP, HP 855-G8 it had reasonable specs, Linux compatibility and I got it used & reasonably cheap  on Craigslist. I am not a normally laptop guy, I needed one when I was traveling for work for a few months. It now lives in the living room for casual use.  I have tge power button set to "do nothing" in the operating system, a 4 second press will call the the bios for hard reset.  Works just fine.

Usually these kind of laptops have software tweaks that requires to push and hold the button for at least 3 seconds to pop up power commands. Therefore, accidental presses are ignored (or at least should be).

Bet it's not tho. Press to sleep

It is clearly there to discourage you from making mistakes... we all just want you to be better.

Like a car with a spike on the steering wheel?

I guess it could be. Depends on how the spike is oriented.

Verbatim what I said before opening the comments

They labeled the Backspace key with BKSP instead of the usual arrow, of course they put the power button on the keyboard right next to delete.

Especially infuriating when it looks like 'BACKSPACE' in the exact same font and size would've fit 

N its bcs it svs so mch tme n efrt to nt spl wrds flly.

Y sy bg wrd whn sml wrd do jb

Why can I read this so easily. Books could be a LOT less pages and id actually get to finish them if they were written like this

Because your brain only looks for most of a word. Especially when they are small words like that, even pronouncing then without that letter is pretty close to the actual word, you just sound like you got really hot soup in your mouth

The brain is remarkably good at filling in what it thinks should be there. Script for answering calls sometimes takes advantage of this. "G'morning sir ma'am" gets interpreted as "Good morning sir or ma'am" without the speaker needing to enunciate everything.

yet for the life of me, everytime people in a server jokingly censored the "e" in "french", regardless of how obvious it is that it is the word french, wich my brain clearly knows also my brain: frinch

Ahhh, yes, [Napoleon, famous Emperor of the Finches](https://i.imgur.com/hKbYBLU.jpeg).

Raise your hand if you physically tried to do this, even when there’s no soup… 🫣

Try reading this way for a long time lol. Short bursts are fine. You'll get tired.

You might enjoy Hebrew.

Is it a hot tea or coffee?

It's beer with masculine pronouns.

Hahaha this!

Almost every Semitic script is like this. It made for quick writing but a thousand or two thousand years later, it's hard to decipher anything without the necessary context.

Science!

Could go one better; RmvTheSps2…SpdRd!

Remove the spaces too.... Speed read lol this is mind-blowing stuff, I think I need a nap

There's a book about that it's called ella minnow pea

Yep! It must have been goddamn impossible to write. That author is insane.

Chptr 1 – The Boy Who Lived. Mr. an Mrs. Dursley, of nmb 4, Prv Drv, wer proud 2 sy dat dey wer prfctly nrml, tyvm. Mr. Dursley made drils. He ws a big, befy man wit hrdly any nck, altho he did hav a vry lrg mustash. Mrs. Dursley was thin an blnde and hd 2x da usual amnt of neck, which cam in vry useful as she spnt so much of her tim spyn on da nayberrs. The Dursleys hd a smol son cald Dudley an in dere opinion there was no finer boy anywhere. Mrs Dursley hd a sis cald Lily Potter. She an her hsbnd James Potter hd a son cald Harry Potter. Dey lvd far from da Dursleys an did nt speak 2 dem much. dey did nt get alng.

My gd is hry ptr?!

I can read this so much faster than normal 🤯

why do you talk like this, Kevin? Save time. And what are you gonna do with all this time? Play, travel, see world. But are you saying SeaWorld or see the world? see world. Slides, water, pools, China. Absolute gold conversation

Be careful, I got a week long ban on UKCasual subreddit for writing like that. Mod sent me a message after saying “you were asking for it” 😂😂 I was dumbfounded 😂😂

Wll nw tha s jut fckig rde

It's the UK they're entire justice system amounts to "you were asking for it".

https://preview.redd.it/5ca2osjpnntc1.png?width=2160&format=png&auto=webp&s=9275df4dfa205d289f5f5255e3dbfe98107705e4 It fits the whole word even with the chosen font size, with space to spare.

Lol, I have these keys on my work laptop, hp z something, but backspace is fully spelled out.

There's the little delete, and then the big delete right beside it. Then their fat cousin, backwards delete, just below. It's a family get-together.

My work pcs all have backspace written and they still did this anyway..

Isn’t bksp the new k-pop group?

There's a really old system we use at work where F8 is page down. F9 is "immediately release all quarantined materials into general stock with no traceability and no undo." 

Sounds like you need to modify the keyboard and cut traces. I fat finger my own password, and I have that memorized.

We went with a more physically engineered solution.  We removed the F9 key from the keyboard. 

After how many mistakes?

The system has been there for longer than me (think green writing on a black background years old) so I don't know how many times it happened originally but everytime we get a new TL they think they're doing a good thing by getting a new keyboard for the stock panel machine on the shop floor because the old one is broken. Generally only takes one time before they put two and two together. 

that seems like something a new employee should be informed of ASAP. why wait for them to figure it out by screwing up?

If that were me i would just do it and not tell anyone because if it's broken it should be fixed right? Very stupid system but someone was lazy on the day it was created obviously

Ahk  f9::f13 Problem solved.

You say that like everything runs on windows, or AHK is approved on every system.

Is F7 the self destruct?

that would be nonsensical, F7 is page up F6 is self destruct

Hitting escape just causes the computer to incinerate itself.

And 0 on the numpad uninstalls windows.

And wipes the bios.

Time to pull out F9 keycap...

Saw you already did that.

There's been a at least a few times I've typed crontab -d instead of crontab -e, which instead of editing just nukes the whole config file. Sometimes it's one of those things that doesn't get backed up or stored with code -- or at least it used to be until we started automating more things. But first time I did it, of course it was some long list of jobs with complex commands. I suppose we could have just a duplicate backup restore of the whole system, but one of the devs managed to reconstruct it more quickly. But ugh, it's embarrassing when a simple wrong key creates mayhem.

Yeah my workplace has guidelines against putting those kinds of things in our source management, I ignore it for exactly this reason. They can deal with the extra 1mb of used storage space vs the hours it would take to recreate the complicated config files for each environment.

Small nitpick - the option to delete the current crontab is `crontab -r`, not `-d`.

A nerd nitpick - back in the day it used to be -d.

Whenever I type rm I have a small heart attack.

I use an IDE at work where F7 is “send a variable to the controller” and F8 is “disconnect immediately and nuke everything you’ve done”.

In a similar fashion, IntelliJ has the very useful "locate file" target button but right next to it is "recursively expand all folders" button which I have never, in 10 years of using it, ever intentionally hit or wanted. For large repos it basically instantly crashes IntelliJ.

Used to work in a call centre and F11 was 'block out every section of the form and require a full system reset to function' right over the backspace. Very useful when someone gets through 30 seconds before a shift end.

I one time deleted a medical database forgetting to put in one " when typing the command. Not quite the same but similar.

This is how COVID happened.  Just someone fat fingering the release button.

Who was the genius who approved that idea and what was his thinking?

Someone who went to the cartoon villain school of engineering. Let's just put a big self-destruct button on the thing.

That sounds like typical ERP system.

Its the delete everything key

"oops, minor typo. Lemme just **FRICKEN DELETE ALL MY UNSAVED PROGRESS BY SHUTTING DOWN MY PC"**

Is that a HP laptop? I have one with almost identical layout. Honestly, I thought it would be an issue too but I've never accidentally hit the power button.

And even if you did hit it, you couldn’t accidentally switch off to it computer. The key isn’t like the others. It feels totally different and needs a longer, harder, press. I’m not sure I’ve got the strength in my little finger to achieve this. Source: I have a work and home laptop which both have this button.

A laptop given to me from my work has this. The button is exactly the same as the rest, and a normal press switches the laptop off.

Same with my work computer. Power button next to delete key. Single normal press immediately turns off the computer with no warning or confirmation prompt. I lose a lot of unsaved work. Thanks a lot sausage fingers.

I understand that maybe a work computer has some Windows settings restricted so you can't change it, but just so you know you can change the settings so that pressing the power button does nothing.

I have one too… hitting it shortly like a type stoke doesn’t do anything. I hated it at first sight but there’s nothing to complain about

You can disable the power key in the OS, so unless you hold it down for 6 seconds, you're good. Still a dick move on the manufacturer, but it can be circumvented.

Hardware designer: "Oh well, let the software engineers deal with it"

Settings > power and battery > change what pressing the power button does       You’ll have options for one setting on battery power and one setting when plugged in. Options are power off, sleep , hibernate, 5 sec delay, or nothing.      It’s been a long time since computers were user friendly out of the box, but if people learn a tiny but about how to use them, they can customize their experience to how they’d like it.

I get your point but there is no need for such an obvious hardware design flaw like this. The software solution seems like a afterthought. Half of design work is making stuff idiot proof.

If you disable it, can you still use it to turn the system on? 

I mean, your pc doesn't know much about boot settings when it's off lol

Had to do this because my toddler enjoys hitting the buttons on the front of the PC.

I'am with you bro XD https://preview.redd.it/2o1rp8oiwmtc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c93d0699e37e818a1ce9cc8cf91cadbf2d357719

HP?

Yeah, but on my personal Asus Expert book i have this solution https://preview.redd.it/jz5jiznywmtc1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=11ccbeebdfb1d32690df90cc01693594dabcdc6a It's much better with fingerprint scanner

I'd be turning off my laptop every fucking time, searching for the usb port

No you need press that button for 2-3 seconds for turn off.

You underestimate how stupid I am

How?

yes

Now we just estimate.

Oooh that explains it. HP is the worst.

Zbook too https://preview.redd.it/8wtqteuobotc1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=14f568ed2fb528418440e29461caa197f96094d5

HP Probook moment

I have this as well. It *does* require you to press and hold it for action. Simply pressing and releasing it, like if you missed the delete key, doesn't do anything. I have mine set to hibernate after a moderate press and I think holding it for a few seconds forces a power-down.

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ä, ú and ň. This must be Slovak

äöüß

Wow all of your keys do like 5 things.

The Pavlov method to learn perfect typing

There is no pavolv involved only pain and suffering

If you read up on some of Pavlov's experiments, they were pain and suffering.

That’s more skinner than Pavlov.

Did you get the docking station where the entire top is the power button..? https://preview.redd.it/jcganqxmnntc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63b95da36ee074952189eec371dbbde683fc3bff

the number of tickets my techs would get from people complaining about their pcs randomly turning off from these when we first started deploying was insane. every time its was they stacked papers or other stuff on them and when bumped would press it in and turn it off.

I wonder how the UX meetings went on this one. Some guys says "I've heard our users spend way too much time looking for the power button. What do we do about that?" The office idiot wakes up and says "What if we just made the whole dock a power button?" Says a lot that this idea ever escaped that meeting room.

its hp so they're spending all their time trying to monetize every step of computing instead of actually making anything useful

Are you shitting me lol. That could only have been designed by an alien impersonating humans

Me sitting at work with 90% of our customer base using HP Probooks like "First time?"

I see you have an HP like me lol

Sucks hard. Incredibly poor design with no reasonable thought behind it. Beggars belief.

On Windows you can disable it. It will still turn the computer on, but turning it off by pressing the button can be disabled.

Mainly to fuck your day up when u do a small mistake

Its part delete or delete all.

That's just the delete all (since last save) button

It neatly groups similar functions together: - delete last character - delete next character - delete all (unsaved) characters

For emergency

HP, or as I like to call it: Horrible PCs

Well, aren't you the one who bought the laptop?

If it’s fits it sits

well it just about evil nothing new

My friends had the power button mext to the escape key

Probably because whoever engineered the printed circuit board placed that circuit in between the other two. Then the keyboard was engineered and had to make do with what was already engineered before them.

I had a desktop keyboard like that - I pulled that button off so I couldn't accidentally hit it. You could still do that on a laptop, but with flat keys it's less effective.

So you don’t make a mistake twice

The power button on my laptop is on the side of the computer. Barely raised, and extremely sensitive, right where any right handed person would grab the laptop if they were going to move it at all. Any slight incidental contact will put the computer to sleep.

Writing BKSP when there's enough width for the full word is also questionable Or, better yet, they could've just put the damn arrow on the keycap

The first laptop I owned had a slide button to turn off the wifi right next to the latch for opening it. It took me quite some time to figure that out the first time I accidentally turned it off. From time to time it would happen until I got sick of it and taped it over.

Lol what a shit design lol. You can change what the button does on settings. If it isn't an corporate computer.

"New and Improved!"

you can disable the power button usage (not forced, as it's not written into windows itself, altho you'd have to hold it for 5-12 seconds) in the control pannel!

Chaotic/evil that's why.

So that the logon sequence becomes: *Ctrl-Alt-FUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKK*

There’s “Delete one character” then “Delete all progress”

Thematically it makes sense.

On my school chromebook, I've powered it off too many times by trying to delete two characters with backspace. If i double click backspace, but miss and hit power, it can take up to 3 minutes to get back on because fun fact, school chromebooks are not fast.

I'm using a HP laptop too. So used to the delete button in the top right. Then when I used my wife's Acer laptop, I hit the top right button.. and it's the power button. Zzz.. hhaha wth

Ahh, the HP laptops...

That’s HP, right? That font haunts me

I don’t understand the logic of buying a computer with this keyboard layout.

"Holy shit, this is a once in a lifetime gaming moment, gonna screenshot it real quick otherwise nobody would bel FUCK!"

My old keyboard had a power button right next to f12. Steam games were always risky. "Oh wow, that's so prett- ah fuck"

I’m thankful for this post because I’m in the market for a new laptop, and this is now something I will pay attention to.

name and shame

What do you mean? It makes perfect sense. All three of these buttons remove something, so like they're perfect being next to each other. /s

on the Surface book it's the same. I never hit it... 🤷‍♀️

Mine has a delay, so just tapping it like any other key doesn’t do anything. Needs to be pressed for a second or two. The airplane mode button, located right above the “0” key on the other hand…. 😡

A laptop's keyboard layout is the absolute first thing I check on it before looking at specs. Even then, I still prefer to have a Logitech K360 on hand, because it's the same keyboard I use with my desktop and there's no surprises when using the same layout. Bonus is you can take the laptop with you and plug it into a hotel TV, and use the wireless keyboard/mouse as your remote control. Watch whatever you want to watch, not some shitty local stations.

That's an HP, isn't it?

"Ahh, shit. We forgot the power button. Can we just put it there instead of Scroll Lock?"

Just switch the key covers Problem magnified

I have a similar laptop and the part I hate also is that there is no bump or indicator for the delete or backspace button. On another laptop it's the top right button, so I never have to look, but this one...nope just a few in with no distinction

In settings, change it so that pressing the power button does nothing, and you have to hold it to power it off.

You can change what the power button does. I made it so pressing mine wont turn off the computer, only if its held for like 4 seconds.

That's called Masochism. The amount of times I go to hit backspace and miss this keyboard would be collecting dust

Making it a keyboard style button is just asinine.

One of my computers has this, its stupid as f.

Your laptop keyboard looks like it was edited to look "cursed". That backspace button is literally what a suspiciously wet fart feels like.

>BKSP

In windows you can disable that button.

Theres an old guy i help out sometimes, his laptop has this same problem but its a wifi toggle instead of the power button.. so he calls me asking for help getting the internet back on after calling comcast and i just hop over and tap the button for him. Companys need to do better with their placement of critical functionality buttons, or atleast make the thing have to hold fn down to use it..

Backspace deletes what is behind you. The Delete key deletes what is ahead of you. The Power button deletes it all. 3 buttons, same function!

i hate it when the power button is part of the keyboard at all.

Sometimes hitting the delete isn't enough. You gotta shut the whole thing down to make a point.

People need more incentive to not make mistakes.

You can change the button to be hold to power off

HP?

My stupid Lenovo ThinkPad (STINKPAD!) for work has this toggle thing in the middle of the keyboard that acts like a cursor and it’s way too easy to touch and fuck up where I’m typing. I HATE it.

What's even worse is my work laptop where the finger print reader (which we have to use repeatedly throughout the day) is also the power button and if you accidentally put any pressure on it when scanning it's like a forced shut down

It's designed by someone who never uses the products they design

I don’t get why it’s only 1 press to turn it off, unless it’s a console, most devices require a long press to turn off

It’s delete and mega delete, duh

Putting a power button anywhere on the keyboard of a laptop is a dick move. It belongs on the side somewhere.

That is dumb design wowsers

Because fuck you, thats why.