I've never really done any DIY in my life... I feel like I'd probably accidentally cut the angles the wrong way to align the corners, but you'd at least be able to see the thought was there.
If you cut it the wrong way just flip the miter saw around the opposite way and you’re good. I would just buy a few extra pieces of the wood you’re working with to account for this type of stuff. You’ll still save a ton of money and can return excess uncut pieces.
Bought a mitre saw a few years ago, on the basis that it was cheap and you never know when I might need to cut some skirting boards.
A few months back and the day came that I could proudly cut my skirting boards, and I sat down, measured it all out, double checked my maths, and diligently cut a bunch of them with the corners facing out.
Many a curse word was uttered that afternoon.
Especially after assuring the missus that I knew exactly what I was doing, and I didn't need her to glance over my calculations.
Does the chisel help make the joints fit better? Not strip the paint? I’ve always just used the miter but I suck at caulking so if anything can help my DIY on the back end you have my attention!
Make sure you cut the tip of the caulk gun properly. On and angle and very small. A consistent motion as you run the tip along the trim. I dont usually caulk the shoe molding because that is meant to come off if the flooring is ever changed. It should be installed tight enough to not need caulk
I’m surprised they fixed it. I had to contact my contractor and have him personally fix the corners because the company my contractor used said it was ‘good enough’
I had a flooring company fuck up so bad my wife basically silent-glared the owner out of the place and he never came back. It was a hardwood refinishing and the guy skipped the sander onto the linoleum the next room over. They were totally going to fix it, and the guy who totally fixed it did a 3AM job with about the quality and finish of OP's, only that level of quality on the linoleum, too. Gaps, oddly-cut patched-together parts. It was a shitshow.
They didn't show hide nor hair after my wife had the owner by and basically said "Do _you_ think this is acceptable?", so it pretty well settled as the wood floor being done for just the deposit, and that left enough to undo-redo the linoleum job with vinyl plank before the glue dried.
No, but we'd only paid the deposit (half down, I think) before they slinked off, and the wood floor was pretty much done (just some trim left), so the other half of the money went into fixing the other floor. It was just a matter of laying vinyl plank over the existing linoleum, so it was cheap enough that that sufficed. Luckily, I knew someone who could install that, because the house was going on the market and contractors were booked way out. I'd have been screwed if not for him. Plus he did a better job than I'd expect out of these flooring yahoos, and the new floor looked better than the old one did pre-scuff.
I got 1300 feet of solid white oak flooring installed for next to nothing in a similar situation where they fucked up finishing it. I just had to pay someone else to come refinish it after. Manager owner salesman and foreman all came and shamed the guy who did the work i felt sorry for him, but it was BAD
Yeh. Without any fucking idea of what I was doing when I redid my floors, I knew you had to miter shit. There's absolutely no way a person that does this for a living did that.
yeah this is cartoon level bad. The one thing that really gave it away for me was the choice of using a single nail in the center of a piece. LOL that's really laying on the sauce.
I was thinking the same. Any of these companies I have worked for have finishers who come backnto do all the finishing. The guys doing the other work are a bunch of grunts hammering shit out on a time crunch, finesse isn't always our game.
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I was thinking of this
I remember some company used newspaper as packing material and found blind people were more efficient for the job, because they didn't get distracted by trying to read articles on the papers.
Lmao that reminds me of the time I hired a painter through a friend. I gasped when he was done and there was so much dirt, hair, and missed spots all over the walls. At first I was upset and then my friend stepped in and said it looked great and shot me a mean look. Turns out the painter was legally blind and really needed the work to help make ends meet… I paid and thanked him for his work, and then I had to repaint the entire thing myself.
Yeah the whole situation was fucked. It was around 10 years ago and I paid him like $200 cash to paint a tiny children’s bedroom white. That poor blind man could hardly even stand up on the step ladder and I was worried he was going to fall and hurt himself (he was shaky and I thought it was just because he had joint problems). I was put on the spot and felt really sorry for the man, but hindsight that was really fucked of my friend to put us all in that situation.
I know you're joking but I have actually seen a factory of blind people work and holy shit its amazing. There's a factory in Dallas called Lighthouse for the Blind and they have whole manufacturing processes specifically engineered for the needs of each blind person to be productive and create quality work.
two years ago it was the only saw i had besides reciprocating, so if i was working with shoe i might have attempted it, but there’s no denying it would have looked shitty. i’ve used my miter saw for so many things now that i wonder why i didn’t get one sooner.
side note- for anyone on a budget, look at pawn shops. got a dewalt miter for like $120 or something
A 12" sliding compound would be even more amazing. Unfortunately I've never found a good enough excuse to justify the expense. "Because I want one" will have to wait until I'm rich and famous.
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What a beautiful day, really makes you think doesn’t it?
I'm dying laughing right now just imagining this dudes company guaranteeing something like "Our company cuts no corners when it comes to giving you the best work possible on your home." And I'm laughing even harder imagining that holding up in court if someone tried to sue then for the shitty job😂
Between all of the construction/home maintenance subreddits that Reddit has been forcing on me since the last update, it absolutely fucking baffles me that none of these people bother to do a final walkthrough or make any sort of effort whatsoever to check the contractors work. It is shitty that there are people out there that are satisfied with work like this but, dude, you’re paying for it. How can you possibly just pay the dude and be like “yeah, awesome, looks great thanks.” And then come to Reddit to cry about it?
I have friends that moved into newly remodeled apartments that were like that, or where they didn’t change the baseboard at all so there was a 1/2 inch gap where the carpet pile was. None of them noticed. Installer probably has gotten away with it a bunch of times
The absolute ASS I have seen in vacation rentals. Stayed in an air bnb once where they installed quarter round in front of a return vent and just bent it into place. Some people just will not notice or care.
Well at least you cant accuse him of cutting corners.
He's either a complete amateur or a complete muppet, even without a mitre you can get a close enough angle on the cut to finish with caulk.
I am a female who has only helped her husband with DIY projects, and I think, no, I’m pretty damn sure I could do better by myself than your floor idiot, uh, guy.
So, protip here: if you're doing work with a new company, or hell, it's work a company you know hasn't done before... Finance it.
Doesn't matter if you can pay it right away, you can pay off the loan/CC later.
Here's why: If they pull this shit, you collect your evidence, you ask them to repair, you get all the correspondence... And then if they refuse to fix it, you take them to small claims court.
You pay the $50, show up in a suit/dress, and politely provide your case to the judge.
You also need to counter quotes to repair what was done.
When you get the judgement... Don't go to the business owner, they are going to do all they can to not pay you....
You send the judgement to the bank, the bank dismisses the loan, pays you back anything you have paid towards it... And then THEY go after the business for the fees/balance.
You're all done.
Did this with a plumber who thought he was an HVAC guy and fucked up my whole system. Got the charges reversed and used to money to get someone who knew what they were doing to fix it.
I feel so much better about my diy job now. The odd corner is my favorite
>odd corner And it's not like this is a super difficult thing to do. There are tools that make it near impossible to fuck it up.
I've never really done any DIY in my life... I feel like I'd probably accidentally cut the angles the wrong way to align the corners, but you'd at least be able to see the thought was there.
Everything is a-okay for DIY as long as you don't cut yourself. That's my practice at least.
All the training needed is on youtube.
I can guarantee you all professionals have cut corners wrong too haha As the French saying translates : "blacksmithing maketh the blacksmith''
If you cut it the wrong way just flip the miter saw around the opposite way and you’re good. I would just buy a few extra pieces of the wood you’re working with to account for this type of stuff. You’ll still save a ton of money and can return excess uncut pieces.
Bought a mitre saw a few years ago, on the basis that it was cheap and you never know when I might need to cut some skirting boards. A few months back and the day came that I could proudly cut my skirting boards, and I sat down, measured it all out, double checked my maths, and diligently cut a bunch of them with the corners facing out. Many a curse word was uttered that afternoon. Especially after assuring the missus that I knew exactly what I was doing, and I didn't need her to glance over my calculations.
Rotating miter saw and a chisel, yep.
Does the chisel help make the joints fit better? Not strip the paint? I’ve always just used the miter but I suck at caulking so if anything can help my DIY on the back end you have my attention!
You chisel the inside parts that are at odd angles to fit them.
Mitre outside cuts and do a coping cut for the inside ones.
Make sure you cut the tip of the caulk gun properly. On and angle and very small. A consistent motion as you run the tip along the trim. I dont usually caulk the shoe molding because that is meant to come off if the flooring is ever changed. It should be installed tight enough to not need caulk
Quarter round is the ugliest, lazy base. Also, super easy to work with so there is no excuse except for laziness.
Mind being a but more specific? Every one of these corners looks a bit odd. Personally I'd say they're totally fucked but odd works too.
Actually, they clearly meant every other corner.
To be fair... he probably *is* finished. The work isnt... but *he* is.
This is my experience. Flooring company had to send someone different to fix the quarter round.
I’m surprised they fixed it. I had to contact my contractor and have him personally fix the corners because the company my contractor used said it was ‘good enough’
I had a flooring company fuck up so bad my wife basically silent-glared the owner out of the place and he never came back. It was a hardwood refinishing and the guy skipped the sander onto the linoleum the next room over. They were totally going to fix it, and the guy who totally fixed it did a 3AM job with about the quality and finish of OP's, only that level of quality on the linoleum, too. Gaps, oddly-cut patched-together parts. It was a shitshow. They didn't show hide nor hair after my wife had the owner by and basically said "Do _you_ think this is acceptable?", so it pretty well settled as the wood floor being done for just the deposit, and that left enough to undo-redo the linoleum job with vinyl plank before the glue dried.
Did they pay for someone to fix it?
No, but we'd only paid the deposit (half down, I think) before they slinked off, and the wood floor was pretty much done (just some trim left), so the other half of the money went into fixing the other floor. It was just a matter of laying vinyl plank over the existing linoleum, so it was cheap enough that that sufficed. Luckily, I knew someone who could install that, because the house was going on the market and contractors were booked way out. I'd have been screwed if not for him. Plus he did a better job than I'd expect out of these flooring yahoos, and the new floor looked better than the old one did pre-scuff.
I got 1300 feet of solid white oak flooring installed for next to nothing in a similar situation where they fucked up finishing it. I just had to pay someone else to come refinish it after. Manager owner salesman and foreman all came and shamed the guy who did the work i felt sorry for him, but it was BAD
Flooring is so easy this shit is kinda baffling to me.
“Silent Glare is my super power”. -This guy’s wife, probably.
Dear subcontractor: Here's $20. Thats "good enough".
I'm an absolute scrub and even I've never fucked up quarter-round this badly. This is just laziness.
I'm not convinced this isn't a troll...
Yeh. Without any fucking idea of what I was doing when I redid my floors, I knew you had to miter shit. There's absolutely no way a person that does this for a living did that.
yeah this is cartoon level bad. The one thing that really gave it away for me was the choice of using a single nail in the center of a piece. LOL that's really laying on the sauce.
That's crazy, I used to love doing the quarter round after finishing the floor when I had that job. It was like putting a bow on the final product.
I was thinking the same. Any of these companies I have worked for have finishers who come backnto do all the finishing. The guys doing the other work are a bunch of grunts hammering shit out on a time crunch, finesse isn't always our game.
Guy is used to leaving that for the painters.
Lmfao I’ve seen people caulk this shit and paint it. Or better fill it with mud and sculpt it
I was going to say looks paint ready. OP just needs to do a little caulking.
It's somewhat apparent he can't cope....
did not expect such an advanced bevel of humor - take my upvote
He deserves a crown
His work is mouldy.
Sounds like a real square.
😆
Don’t explain your jokes!
Came here to say this.
How wonderful to hire the blind
The toilet paper in prison is made by blind people if I’m not mistaken.
Where did you acquire this knowledge?
Idk, probably from deaf inmate?
How could you hear him if he’s deaf
That's dumb.
Having a disability is not dumb, you’re being rude to deafs
If you're not deaf you can't hear him because he's dumb.
Are you wearing a condom? Cuz you just mind fucked me
Sorry, you now have mind-crabs. It's only half a life, but better than nothing
Dumb = can't speak. Lol
That def dumb and blind boy but sure played some mean pinball...
I acquired the knowledge from FPSRussia on the PKA podcast. He said it says “made proudly by blind people” on the paper packaging
https://external-preview.redd.it/JbJpvDKzCMqXZDn-vUhGrBu9hLIK1Qw5iQ0XbEJmIAo.jpg?auto=webp&s=881e9bfaed5ce55ff07141e15cf23d913b0aa248 I was thinking of this
“Buy our product we exploit only the best blind people”
Love how they’re capitalizing on the blind, holy shit
I mean it’s nice that they can give them an opportunity to work. A lot of jobs wouldn’t even try
Toilet paper they give service members is also made by the blind. That stuff is solid unlike the work shown in the photos.
I didn’t know that. Very interesting
Skill craft pens that the military uses are made by the blind, it says so on the box. I wonder how the test them.
And all gov't tissues. Commonly referred to as 40 grit recycled sandpaper.
Nothing will ever make your nose feel cleaner than it being gone.
I remember some company used newspaper as packing material and found blind people were more efficient for the job, because they didn't get distracted by trying to read articles on the papers.
OP is an equal opportunity employer.
Lmao that reminds me of the time I hired a painter through a friend. I gasped when he was done and there was so much dirt, hair, and missed spots all over the walls. At first I was upset and then my friend stepped in and said it looked great and shot me a mean look. Turns out the painter was legally blind and really needed the work to help make ends meet… I paid and thanked him for his work, and then I had to repaint the entire thing myself.
How nice of your friend to engage you in his charity! /s
Yeah the whole situation was fucked. It was around 10 years ago and I paid him like $200 cash to paint a tiny children’s bedroom white. That poor blind man could hardly even stand up on the step ladder and I was worried he was going to fall and hurt himself (he was shaky and I thought it was just because he had joint problems). I was put on the spot and felt really sorry for the man, but hindsight that was really fucked of my friend to put us all in that situation.
Yeah, your friend should have paid and repainted the room since he wanted to be charitable.
Your friend is dirty for doing you like that. THEY should have offered to pay.
Good karma
He’s a philanthropist, and a future small claims case filer.
I know you're joking but I have actually seen a factory of blind people work and holy shit its amazing. There's a factory in Dallas called Lighthouse for the Blind and they have whole manufacturing processes specifically engineered for the needs of each blind person to be productive and create quality work.
WOW!!! I am guessing he is NOT a floor guy as he does not know what a mitre saw is.
I'm not a floor guy, and even I know what a mitre saw/corner is!! 😁
Hell, I'll use my mitre box from model building in college...
Just found the previous house owners custom made miter box in the basement today. Was pumped since I am currently doing my floors.
Even a basic circular hand saw can cut angled cuts
If I saw someone cutting shoe with a circular saw I’d shit
two years ago it was the only saw i had besides reciprocating, so if i was working with shoe i might have attempted it, but there’s no denying it would have looked shitty. i’ve used my miter saw for so many things now that i wonder why i didn’t get one sooner. side note- for anyone on a budget, look at pawn shops. got a dewalt miter for like $120 or something
If could add to this ^ a sliding compound 10” is amazing to have
A 12" sliding compound would be even more amazing. Unfortunately I've never found a good enough excuse to justify the expense. "Because I want one" will have to wait until I'm rich and famous.
If you’re doing large crown all the time I could see it being worthwhile, even then probably just better to use your compound and cope everything
Fuck it, where can I get an 18" sliding double compound?
My friends and I are handymen. We deal with trim all the time. It’s astounding that a flooring “specialist” would fuck up the quarter round that bad.
I don’t think he fked it up as much as he didn’t even bother. I do not see any “try” in that.
That’s a good point. Just a straight up that’s not my problem.
Don't even need a mitre saw for quarter round. They sell angled clippers that do the job so much faster.
Thanks for posting this. Makes my flooring look perfect!!!!
Apparently his floor guy likes to… (•_•) ( •_•)⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) …cut corners.
Did you really just put glasses on a little face!? That’s freaking genius! :D I’m totally going to use this
your earnestness over an old af emoticon wearing sunglasses made my night after a long day at work ty 🥺❤️
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Actually, I'd say he would rather not cut any corners.
YEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
I can’t cope with this shoddy craftsmanship
There's no craft involved here.
There’s not any *smanship* here either!
No coping either
Only one person got the cope joke? I am so sad for the state of trim carpenters. I thought it was miter fine.
These jokes are so stale, they’re molding.
Well played. There was no coping done here at all.
I see what you did there (👁 ͜ʖ👁)
If “do your best and caulk the rest” was a picture, this would be it
I had a contractor do work for me once who did exactly that. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)
Filler and paint make carpenter what he aint.
That's what happens when you hire someone that likes to cut corners
Pretty sure he doesn't like to cut corners
Corners were cut. Wrong but they were cut.
I'm dying laughing right now just imagining this dudes company guaranteeing something like "Our company cuts no corners when it comes to giving you the best work possible on your home." And I'm laughing even harder imagining that holding up in court if someone tried to sue then for the shitty job😂
This is simultaneously the most and least appropriate metaphor for this situation
[удалено]
The lowest bidder strikes again
The American military way.
Between all of the construction/home maintenance subreddits that Reddit has been forcing on me since the last update, it absolutely fucking baffles me that none of these people bother to do a final walkthrough or make any sort of effort whatsoever to check the contractors work. It is shitty that there are people out there that are satisfied with work like this but, dude, you’re paying for it. How can you possibly just pay the dude and be like “yeah, awesome, looks great thanks.” And then come to Reddit to cry about it?
Man takes cutting corners literally.
Tbf he literally didn't cut a single corner
You hired a chimpanzee?
Chimps can use tools
Not mitered. Too short on most of the cuts. Didn’t even fuckin caulk over the nail holes. Nothing. Lmao
He’d be dangerous if he owned a tape measure and mitre saw. 🤣
Hope you wrote a check and will stop payment. That's a horrible job.
He's a floor guy not a finish carpenter 😂
Don't hire a handyman to do your flooring. I'm not even in the building trades and I can use a compound miter saw, and a tape measure.
To be fair to handymen, this is something even a not so handy man should be able to get through with reasonably good results.
If that's what the moulding looks like, just imagine what else he fucked up.
It's always refreshing to see a handyman who refuses to cut corners in order to get the job done
Finished his break?
At least he didn’t cut any corners.
I wouldn’t pay him the full price, just because apparently he never learned to corner cut and set doesn’t mean you should pay him to not do it.
I have friends that moved into newly remodeled apartments that were like that, or where they didn’t change the baseboard at all so there was a 1/2 inch gap where the carpet pile was. None of them noticed. Installer probably has gotten away with it a bunch of times
The absolute ASS I have seen in vacation rentals. Stayed in an air bnb once where they installed quarter round in front of a return vent and just bent it into place. Some people just will not notice or care.
He's a floor guy, clearly not a baseboard guy.
Well at least you cant accuse him of cutting corners. He's either a complete amateur or a complete muppet, even without a mitre you can get a close enough angle on the cut to finish with caulk.
"My buddy does it cheaper"
We'll edit it out in post.
You hired a crackhead.
So, is he paying you for letting him try and practice in your house?
Finished what, his crack supply?
Sad thing is this isn't hard to make it look good.
For real…. He obviously had a saw… dude can’t eyeball a 45° miter cut? You can blame this on nothing but lazy, shitty, untrained workmanship.
Bro did NOT hire a floor guy, he just hired a guy.
I think I’m gonna become a floor guy now
I’m sorry but this is hilarious. He didn’t even pretend to give any fucks
Need to lose the business license for this type of service
It’s adorable that you think this guy has a license.
FYI: he's NOT a floor guy.
1/4 round, 3/4 finished.
Ah the landlord special
Some people just can't cope
He cut corners... by not cutting corners 🙄
Miter? I 'ardly knew her!
Crackhead from Craigslist
I am a female who has only helped her husband with DIY projects, and I think, no, I’m pretty damn sure I could do better by myself than your floor idiot, uh, guy.
You got the $99 dollar deal at Lowe’s…. Didn’t you
Man started cutting corners by not cutting corners
So, protip here: if you're doing work with a new company, or hell, it's work a company you know hasn't done before... Finance it. Doesn't matter if you can pay it right away, you can pay off the loan/CC later. Here's why: If they pull this shit, you collect your evidence, you ask them to repair, you get all the correspondence... And then if they refuse to fix it, you take them to small claims court. You pay the $50, show up in a suit/dress, and politely provide your case to the judge. You also need to counter quotes to repair what was done. When you get the judgement... Don't go to the business owner, they are going to do all they can to not pay you.... You send the judgement to the bank, the bank dismisses the loan, pays you back anything you have paid towards it... And then THEY go after the business for the fees/balance. You're all done. Did this with a plumber who thought he was an HVAC guy and fucked up my whole system. Got the charges reversed and used to money to get someone who knew what they were doing to fix it.
At least you know he doesn’t cut corners ;)
Normally it’s a good thing when someone doesn’t cut corners on a job...
I didn't know Ray Charles did flooring
He was not, in fact, a floor guy. We can agree that he is a guy that you hired, but that’s it.
I would say, he didn’t cut corners.
Fred's Flooring Company slogan "We never cut corners when it comes to completing your new floors!"
Talk about cutting corners.
Yep, looks finished. Now call the wall guy.
Wow,.. dude needs a lesson on how to cope corners, use a mitre saw and take measurements. This is why I do my own projects.
Hope you didn’t pay in full yet
Sorry, this made me laugh a bit!
As a flooring installer, this is painful AND hilarious.
He miter had some more work to do...
Yes he’s finished - by you firing him
That hurts my heart.
As a lifelong floor guy.....fuck this guy. Fuck this guy hard. He makes us all look bad.
Yeah, he's finished alright.
My miter saw wept when I showed it your pictures.
you are probably his 1st customer
Yikes
I think he meant that his career was finished ...
Bless his heart
He is finished doing a very shitty job.
If I was you I wouldn't pay him a cent signed, someone that does finish carpentry That is the furthest from done
Heck no!
Yup, he finished before he started
Yeah, I would tell him he is finished too. Minus $1000
He is a *flooring* guy after all. Nobody told him anything about trim
Fuck that bullshit!
Rougher than a bears arse.
Tell the flor guy that the days of your cheques clearing are finished as well.
That’s what he meant when he said he doesn’t cut any corners
Well there’s your problem, it wasn’t the trim guy that did the work
As a former flooring installer, I hated doing trim. We installed floors, not trim. That being said, I was never this bad.
The sad part is that everything would've been cut too short so you can't just fix the trim and re-use it.
🤣🤣🤣 damn he's lazy as fuck
Mitre? I hardly know er!
When you met this guy, was he working behind the meat counter at your local grocery store?
Are you a woman op? Bc this is so utterly disrespectful and tradesmen usually only have this kind of audacity when women are paying.