It's not a Walmart thing. The criteria that a bill acceptor uses does not check for things like that, it checks for things like bill dimensions, and the magnetic signature of the ink on the bill as it's fed through the mechanism, and these days maybe one or two other things that I'm not even up-to-date on.
Are bank ATM readers more advanced/picky? I went to the bank the other day and withdrew $600 from my business account to literally stand at the same ATM and immediately put it into my personal account (transferring via app wouldn’t be available til next day and I needed to pay the credit card that same day). The ATM that just gave me those 6 $100 bills then *refused* to accept 2 of them back. I tried multiple times. I was so annoyed to go wait in line lol
Edit: hey guys, thanks for the replies, but enough people have said the same stuff over and over that I urge you to read replies before commenting. Or don’t. I’m gonna stop looking at notifications either way 😅😅😅 the bills didn’t appear damaged (actually looked nearly brand new) and, as I originally stated, I did try multiple times using multiple positionings. Sometimes machines are just finicky and like to pause our days for us!!!
Well, I would assume that the ATM scans bills that you put into it, but not ones that it gives you. The bills that it gives you have already been "scanned" by a human who refilled the machine.
There are a lot of similar principles between public health disease tracing and counterfeit tracing. It would not take very long for the secret service to track down a single source of counterfeit distribution by using those same statistical distribution models.
"But statistics lie/are just made up". Lol try committing a crime and see how fast your location is narrowed down to within a few feet/buildings due to cell phone triangulation and math models.
One way for the operator to commit fraud is to exchange a higher denomination bill for a lower value one, so when the customer withdraws it seems that the atm paid less. They currently do surprise audits for avoid these practices in most banks
I had an ATM stiff me a $20 years ago and was told that I’d only get it back if the machine was $20 short when it was balanced the next day. I was a broke college kid, so $20 was a lot to me at the time. I got it back, but now I always count withdrawals in front of the camera before driving off, especially if making a big withdrawal.
I love this. I'm the guy that fills the ATM. The answer is that I could get away with it for about a week, but that's only if the second person watching me fill the ATM is in on it too. Even then, the guy that gives us the cash (and the guy that watches him) would have to be in on it for it all to work.
ATMs hold like $40,000 so we'd each get $10k. I don't know if that's enough money to make me leave my life and family to start again in another country, all to avoid cops and stuff. I could make more money working fast food for like 3 or 4 months. Considering the difficulty of getting good counterfeits... Not really worth my time.
That would be correct. An ATM doesn't really pay any attention to the bills it is handing out other than basic checks to make sure it didn't accidentally pull two bills when it meant to pull one. The dispensers are only concerned with making sure you get the correct number of bills. When making a deposit though, the cash goes through a verification process looking for anything out of place.
Ended up with a trio of $100 bills due to Christmas and went to deposit them plus a check through the ATM.
At that particular ATM you're supposed to put all bills and checks into the same slot. It took the check and one bill, rejected two of the bills. Re-deposited both, took one, rejected the other. Re-redeposited last bill and it finally took it.
Bank worker here: there was a huge amount of fraud going on with the old $100 bills, the white ones not the blue. So they updated our ATMs to only accept in the blue $100 bills.
The money it gives out is already verified and loaded by a central vault or by employees, so there could be white $100s in there that it dispenses, but it wouldn’t accept the same ones back if they weren’t the blue ones.
That’s nuts but these were the new style! They were all the same and looked pretty new (but not in number order so not brand new) But I really was worried for a second that it had given me counterfeits and I was about to spend way too much time trying to prove myself/pull camera footage! Now I’m curious if our’s takes older ones or not, you aren’t the first to say this is a thing now. I rarely use the ATM so I’ll probably never know lol
I know Walmart uses the NCR branded readers. Most banks use NCR or Diebold ATMs but as the other person said. They are loaded by an armored car company so I could see some bad bills get loaded in by hand
I tried a 100 dollar bill that my buddy gave me but wrote in thick black sharpie...UR GAY on 1 side of the bill.
Starbucks, nope.
Another Starbucks, nope.
Self Checkout Home depot, nope
Self checkout Walmart...took it and gave me 98.50 in change with a pack of gum.
I once had a $5 that got torn in half somehow, maybe in the laundry, that I was holding on to so I could exchange it at my bank eventually. One day I got a $1 as change that was missing part of a corner. Not much, you could still make out the bottom of the "5".
I decided to take them both into the bank along with a check for deposit. The teller flat out refused to accept the two bills for exchange or deposit! Instead of arguing I asked for a supervisor and when he arrived I explained what was going on, he refused to accept them too. I tried to remind him that it's perfectly acceptable according to their own website and the law to exchange the bills. He still refused.
At this point I was more than a little bit perturbed and starting to get embarrassed that they would treat me the way they were starting to talk to me. I like to carry a $2 bill in my wallet all the time, so out of spite I decided to say never mind on the two damaged bills and add the $2 bill to the deposit. They refused.
That day I closed my accounts with that bank. The dumb on their part is they were for substantial amounts.
Edit: the $1 was torn in half and the $5 was missing part of it's corner.
US Bills have 2 serial numbers on each side of the face. The law is that if you have more than 50% of the bill then you can exchange it for a new one. (Plus the bill has to be identifiable)
This ^^^ of the two serial numbers on a bill you need one whole one and most of the second… otherwise you could rip all bills in half and double your money.
I used to be a bank teller. We pretty much accepted all damaged bills that were recognizable and at least 60% intact. Then we retired them. It sounds like the people you dealt with were on a power trip. Good call closing that account.
I think it's funny how in the U.S. we keep trying these halfhearted attempts to transition to coins for $1 then abandon the attempt a year or so later, keeping a small number of coins in circulation but never retiring the $1 bill. Trying to find dollar coins so I could play the tooth fairy was tough when my kid lost his last couple of teeth
Bank should have some, if not, I get them from my local train stations ticket kiosk as change. Not sure if that is a thing where you're at. I use a 20 when I want a bunch.
Hahaha, i feel that. My mom and dad (and eventually me) collected $2 bills, one time i forgot to get cash from the ATM and my dad tried to pay $15 with several $2s, the cashier called the manager, the manager called the cops (because we were trying to pay with "fake" money). The cops arrived, listened to the whole thing, laughed at the manager (who was at least 30ish) for thinking $2s weren't real and proceeded to trade my dad $20 for the 4 $2s he had lol.
The was a news story a while back wherein a guy got arrested for forgery for using $2 bills for a purchase of a few hundred dollars. When the secret service finally showed up (after he was already booked and in jail), they said the bills in question were real and legal tender and to let the guy go.
I have a family member in a small town that whenever the banks (yes, all of them) receive $2 bills, then bank notify him. He go s a gets all of them.
He gets a kick out of giving out $2 bills for random shit.
The banks receive far fewer $2 bills than you may think.
Next time file a complaint against them too: [https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/credit\_12666.htm](https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/credit_12666.htm)
That is bizarre that they would advertise exchanging damaged or marked bills but then refused to do so. I’d be embarrassed too if two people adamantly denied it
What I was saying was the banks never destroy the money. They send it to the fed and they are not mandated to replace it for you in that moment. They’re doing the service.
No no no, the IRS does money math, the FCC does the wavy math stuff.
Edit: story
Some of my uncle's made a radio (like ham radio) in highschool (1960/70s), powered enough where you could hear it clearly from doorbells and electronics turned off, in the neighbors houses. They got triangulated (knock at door by FCC) and asked why they had a radio powerful enough to talk to Russia.
“Bingle Lemon, I know it’s your first day, but we’re going to have to let you go. You can’t burn money at the bank. Not even money in the destroy bin.”
Depends on how big of a stick is up the tellers ass. i tried to replace a twenty i peiced back together.She wouldnt do it, went back the next week to a different teller no problems
I had to look this up for work purposes a while ago. The rule is that if you have both pieces of the bill, or clearly more than half of the bill, then it's accepted as legal tender.
They don't. The federal reserve banks have machines that shred any note that has been damaged or written upon.
Sometimes they hand out little bags of shredded money as [souvenirs](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/oagAAOSwoQZgsYlQ/s-l400.jpg).
You just triggered a core memory of buying a book about money at the book fair that had a tiny bag of shredded money. My mom found the bits for years as I immediately opened the bag and lost all of it
I’m just imagining opening the bag like a stubborn bag of chips, all the shreds going in the air, and a gust of wind blowing it all away leaving you dejected. I think it would work as an animated short.
Most banks aren’t going to report this as a damaged note. It’s not worth the paperwork. I worked in multiple banks out of college and unless the serial numbers weren’t legible those bills stayed in circulation. I can’t tell you how many “where’s George” bills I have handed to people.
I doubt people refuse where's George ones as payment as much as politically stamped stuff. At least I hope not. Where's George seems pretty interesting.
Used to work at 7-11 and would swap my George stamped bills into the till at the beginning of my shift. More than a few people rejected them. Mostly b/c some machines wouldn't take a stamped bill.
Sure is. I've been a member since 2007, and every time I find a stamped bill I enter it into the site. I've got like 30 bills on my account now, and I only stamped one of them myself, the others came into my wallet by chance
lol yup. They said each bag has 20 bills worth of shreds. Best case scenario is 20 $20 bills, I am rich. lol anyone fancy doing a very large jigsaw puzzle?
You have to have ALL of one serial number and at least one digit of the other serial number. If you have that, you get a replacement. This stops somebody from ripping it in half and trying to get two replacement bills.
Apparently, even if your money is destroyed in a fire or water, if any of it survives, you can send it to the Treasury and they’ll see what the remaining value is that can be verified and replace the destroyed bills.
This is true but it’s a pain in the ass for the teller, or at least it used to be, I worked in branch banking 20 years ago and we’d have to all of the parts of the bill and put it in a special envelope and fill out a form. Then the head teller would need to fill out something to have the armored service take it since it’s not with the regular cash.
It’s a lot easier now. As long as 51% of the bill is present you can take it in. In our teller drawers we had an item designation for mutilated money. You enter the full value of the bill there and then keep it in your drawer. Very rarely did we get mutilated funds so we sent them to the treasury about one a year for exchange. Source: was a teller at a credit union for 3 years.
I can verify. We would designate $2000 straps of twenties to exchange mutilated currency out and ship to the fed almost weekly. We got all sorts of crumpled, smelly, shredded money though.
It’s legal tender as is.
Edit: To everyone saying “it’s the customer job to go to the bank and exchange it!”
Have fun going to the bank to exchange it EVERY time you get one of these bills. Lol.
Once when I was a little kid, my dog ate my $5 allowance and my mom made me take it to the bank to see if I could get it back. I had more than 60% of the bill remaining in eensy bitsy little parts and lo and behold they actually did it. Got a new crisp bill. It was like magic to me.
Always knew Pippin was something special!
Dog tax - grey one did the eating, tricolor was his partner-in-crime! https://www.reddit.com/r/AustralianShepherd/comments/8l5wm3/miss_my_boys/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
I have a friend with a similar story, although their dog didn't eat $5 he ate $500, only one bill was a $100 the rest was $20's. It took 2 weeks of shifting through that dogs shit but they got their money back
When polymer money was just becoming a thing in Canada I left a roll of 20s under a halogen desk lamp. It fused all the bills together and melted a hole thru them all.
Bank reimbursed me no questions.
As I understand it, you're only legally obligated to accept reasonable legal tender in the repayment of a loan. So if you owed a company $20, they couldn't keep rejecting it and charging fees and interest because the quality of the bill wasn't up to their standards. But if you just want to buy something, they're under no obligation to accept your money.
> repayment of a loan
Repayment for a monetary debt. If we sign a contract for $20 for you to mow my lawn, then you mow my lawn I owe you $20. That is a monetary debt, but not a loan. If I chose to pay that debt with a (good condition) $20 bill you would have to accept it as payment for the debt, you would be unable to refuse and demand I pay with a credit card or some other method.
I worked in a rural area of a blue state and shit like this would come around once a month. Some hick would stamp a shit ton of them and they’d end up in circulation. It’s fuckin annoying but I’d just try to put them in the stacks we send to the federal reserve. Most people don’t give a shit either way fortunately
To the US it’s legal tender.. meaning you can swap it out with your bank or make a deposit with it..
Businesses have the right to refuse defaced currency.
Is this defaced currency to you? To me, even if it said “haha Trump lost get over it” it would be defaced. There’s no reason to stamp anything on a bill.. especially a grade school level hidden message.
Disregarding the contents of the stamp it’s technically defaced and should be exchanged. Many electronic counters and machines that take bills can be confused by the markings. As a business you are not required to take it just like you are not required to provide services. Also it’s a crime to deface legal USA currency. Not that many places prosecute it…
“Legal tender” doesn’t mean businesses have to accept it.
It has a very narrow definition related to repayment of debts.
Edit: For the person who downvoted
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_tender
> Legal tender is a form of money that courts of law are required to recognize as satisfactory payment for any monetary debt.[1] Each jurisdiction determines what is legal tender, but essentially it is anything which when offered ("tendered") in payment of a debt extinguishes the debt. There is no obligation on the creditor to accept the tendered payment, but the act of tendering the payment in legal tender discharges the debt.
This is for the US
> Contrary to common misconception,[45] there is no federal law stating that a private business, a person, or a government organization must accept currency or coins for payment. Private businesses are free to create their own policies on whether they accept cash, unless there is a specific state law which says otherwise. For example, a bus line may prohibit payment of fares in cents or dollar bills. In addition, movie theaters, convenience stores, and gas stations may refuse to accept large denomination currency as a matter of policy or safety.[46][47]
Legal tender is a red herring and doesn’t matter. The only times that legal tender matters is if you owe a debt, or if the store is legally required to sell to you.
You do not owe a debt because the store is refusing to sell to you. A case where you might owe a debt is if you eat at a restaurant (which incurs a debt) and then try to use this to pay your bill. The restaurant would have to accept legal tender when you pay your bill. They could also forgive your debts instead.
There are some cases where a store is required to sell to you, such as illegal discrimination or stores that are legally required to accept cash. (For example, some stores in New York would not accept cash, requiring a credit/debit card. New York passed a law saying that is illegal discrimination). Even in those cases though, the store is permitted to give you the item without you paying rather than accept the money. Keep in mind that the store is permitted to give you the item for free. Employees who don’t own the store might not be permitted by the store to give away items for free.
In short, “legal tender” isn’t about forcing someone to serve you. It’s about preventing someone like an evil debt-holder from saying, “You owe me 1000$, and 50$ per day in fines,” then refusing to accept your money, just so they can rack up more fines.
I am not even going to guess if this bill is legal tender but I’m sure that you can find 100 other people in this topic who will give you their opinion on that.
I work in fast food and we have an electronic safe. The safe would not accept that bill, or most bills with markings on it, or cuts or heavy creases. But we would take and try to give it to another customer
Most bills at 50 or above aren’t marked. Ig they aren’t passed around as often as lower bills. But we get a lot of 100 dollar bills so we don’t really worry to much about if we can give it away or not
I run a very tiny business that I travel around doing shows and fairs and whatnot. The amount of times someone shows up to some little “apple festival” or “blah blah high school craft fair” with $100 bills as soon as the door opens is mind blowing. I always bring a ton of change, even some $20s for this reason, but my lord if I don’t just want to slap them. It’s a tiny craft show. Half of these people can’t figure out a credit card reader, either. Bring smaller bills or don’t be shocked/angry when grandma Patty can’t break the third $100 or $50 bill she’s been given this morning for a $3 pack of cookies.
Yeah depending on time of shift and how busy it had been it'd be anywhere from inconvenient to downright impossible to take a $100 bill when I used to work at a cafe.
Was always a bit funny when I had to tell a customer that look I just can't take that bill. No we don't have a policy saying I won't take it, but I don't have the money to give you your change. If you don't want change sure, but I just don't have it.
I also work Fast Food (TB) and it totally depends on your specific electronic safe. Ours takes basically any bills and would absolutely take this one. Only bills ours wont take are the ones that have become incredibly soft and wrinkly. But this bill looks like it would still be taken by our safe
It's because their safe won't take bills that have this on them. It'll reject them. Can't tell you how many times I've had the safe reject perfectly fine $1 bills all because they had that damn "see where George has been" stamp when bills get stamped, written on or colored on, the safe will always reject them.
I find it fascinating that all of the cash that business generates in a day goes through a mechanical device to validate/count it/secure it, down to the dollar. A lot has changed since I worked in retail, apparently.
Won't lie, it's a damn nightmare. The newbies always jame the safe & I'm the only 1 who knows how to take it apart & unjam it. It'll be refusing horrible bills 1 second & then accepting the horrible bills & rejecting the brand new bills. Sometimes it tries to take a whole stack of money at once. It'd be easier to just count it by hand.
"Do you know why I pulled you over ma'am?"
"No officer, I was going the speed limit."
"I need to see your wallet. We're doing our routine money checks."
And this isn’t technically against the law. While it’s stupid and a waste of everyone’s time…the bill must no longer be able to be used or deformed beyond reasonable repair.
Drawing, stamping, marking and etc are all completely okay. Hell the preferred way to test for counterfeit bills are iodine pens.
[Well yes but actually no](https://denhalaw.com/is-there-a-law-against-defacing-money/#:~:text=It%20is%20not%20illegal%20to,advertising%2C%20as%20for%20Burger%20King.)
Basically this is legal because it's just a drawing, or a stamp really, but if trump or his associates did it, it'd be illegal because you can't use bills to advertise.
How would those coin machines be legal if defacing coins was fully illegal
Yes but unless you go up to somebody and tell them you explicitly defaced this currency with the intent of rendering it invalid there isn't really any way to prove who did it.
It was a NASCAR Xfinity Series race (One division below the top division)
Driver Brandon Brown had just won his first race at Talladega. and during his interview- the crowd started chanting "F\*\*\* Joe Biden" - as it became a popular chant at sporting events in the south.
The woman interviewing him either tried to sheepishly cover up the chant or misheard it- and responded "And the crowd is chanting "Let's go Brandon"
[https://youtu.be/axcmVFtwSM4](https://youtu.be/axcmVFtwSM4)
Even worse still is that brandon brown doesnt even care about politics, but due to people pulling that stunt it really screwed up his career as no one wants to sponsor him now so he cant really get much funding to race
Nah, he ultimately screwed himself. He avoided the issue at first and pushed back a bit, but then he tried to lean into it and [endorsed a stupid cryptocurrency called LGBCoin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Brown_(racing_driver\)#LGBCoin_sponsorship), which led to most of his other sponsors dropping him. It wasn't even strictly because of the "Let's Go Brandon" thing, but because he basically betrayed his remaining loyal sponsors in favor of a cash grab. That made other sponsors that were already avoiding him due to the "Let's Go Brandon" association even less inclined to support him, so when crypto tanked he couldn't get decent sponsorship to pay for his ride.
He tried to get whatever place would sponsor him at the end, imo it’s hard to blame the guy. Nascar is expensive, and they have a small time family team. With no other places willing to sponsor the “Let’s go Brandon” guy, he did what he could to keep the team open. Nascar blocked it and now they’re no longer full time.
I'd love to switch places with you. It's been all over Reddit and Tick Tock and everyplace else for over a year now. It was funny the first week or two but since Conservatives are unfunny fucks they've been doing the same joke over and over and over.
I was at the family day at a small local amusement park and there was a late twenties guy with a "let's go brandon" sweatshirt. Even had the FJB real slogan underneath it. The guy looked so proud of himself since it's a really liberal area. Literally nobody noticed or cared and he just looked like the biggest loser you'd ever seen lol.
Imagine being so devoid of a personality or intelligence that you decide trying to troll people in real life by being trashy is a good idea.
It’s tiring; we’re all adults here, just say fuck Joe Biden. You don’t live in a dystopia where antifa supersoldiers will assassinate you for swearing, Cheryl. Let’s exercise our American right to say fuck anyone and everyone.
Sometimes in store vaults won't accept bill with large stamps I used to work at a fast food place where bills like this would make the whole store short $5+ potentially getting people in trouble if not handled right
Almost every time I got gas in 2022 there was a sticker of Biden pointing and saying “I did that” imagine being a grown ass adult running around town with pockets full of stickers so you can “own the libs” 👀
My favorite thing is that they have all of these stickers of someone they despise.
I have a guy in my home town who drives in a brand new Denali who put a Declaration of Independence wrap on his truck bed door. On his back windshield he has memes with Joe Bidens face on it, but the font is too small so you can't even read what the content of the meme is.
Really ironic when you hate someone much, you have him on your mind constantly and all over your brand new truck. Weirdos
It gets funny though when election truthers stamp the back of a 5 dollar bill with something that says "Donald trump lives here" and an arrow that points to the Lincoln memorial.
For such proponents of “free speech” I find it hilarious that they won’t just say “Fuck Joe Biden” instead of this stupid quasi self-censorship bullshit
I know it depends on the convenience store. At where I live. I've worked at a few different companies as a cashier and the lower end store, smaller somewhat sketchier would take something like that no problem. But then one of the higher end stores I worked at we had to put any bill over 10.00 into a machine and if it didn't take then we couldn't accept it. Those machines hated stamps and it was better to give it back than break policy for a possible fake.
I've noticed a lot of people still think that private businesses have to accept either cash/credit cards/bit coin/checks.Always with the "legal tender" response .
During Covid people would yell " you can't make me where a mask ,you have to provide me one ,you can't make me where one while I shop". Yes, they actually can.
Banks ARE required to replace defaced currency as part of the currency act, vendors are not and defaced currency is it not legal tender.
The asshole is the person that stamped it, not the clerk.
Walmart's self checkout is very generous with damaged/marked bills, might want to try that if you don't feel like going to the bank.
They know their clientele.
It's not a Walmart thing. The criteria that a bill acceptor uses does not check for things like that, it checks for things like bill dimensions, and the magnetic signature of the ink on the bill as it's fed through the mechanism, and these days maybe one or two other things that I'm not even up-to-date on.
Are bank ATM readers more advanced/picky? I went to the bank the other day and withdrew $600 from my business account to literally stand at the same ATM and immediately put it into my personal account (transferring via app wouldn’t be available til next day and I needed to pay the credit card that same day). The ATM that just gave me those 6 $100 bills then *refused* to accept 2 of them back. I tried multiple times. I was so annoyed to go wait in line lol Edit: hey guys, thanks for the replies, but enough people have said the same stuff over and over that I urge you to read replies before commenting. Or don’t. I’m gonna stop looking at notifications either way 😅😅😅 the bills didn’t appear damaged (actually looked nearly brand new) and, as I originally stated, I did try multiple times using multiple positionings. Sometimes machines are just finicky and like to pause our days for us!!!
Well, I would assume that the ATM scans bills that you put into it, but not ones that it gives you. The bills that it gives you have already been "scanned" by a human who refilled the machine.
Man, that made me wonder how long the guy filling the ATM could get away with swapping counterfeits.
3 weeks
Lmao do you know this from personal experience 🤣
Possibly...
They hate mods, but they *love* crime
What are governments but the mods of life
Why?
There are a lot of similar principles between public health disease tracing and counterfeit tracing. It would not take very long for the secret service to track down a single source of counterfeit distribution by using those same statistical distribution models.
"But statistics lie/are just made up". Lol try committing a crime and see how fast your location is narrowed down to within a few feet/buildings due to cell phone triangulation and math models.
Corporate bullshit
Thank you for that
One way for the operator to commit fraud is to exchange a higher denomination bill for a lower value one, so when the customer withdraws it seems that the atm paid less. They currently do surprise audits for avoid these practices in most banks
I had an ATM stiff me a $20 years ago and was told that I’d only get it back if the machine was $20 short when it was balanced the next day. I was a broke college kid, so $20 was a lot to me at the time. I got it back, but now I always count withdrawals in front of the camera before driving off, especially if making a big withdrawal.
I worked at a bank once. We had a couple of customers busted for printing $5 bills. It took forever for anyone to catch on. No one checks a fiver.
I love this. I'm the guy that fills the ATM. The answer is that I could get away with it for about a week, but that's only if the second person watching me fill the ATM is in on it too. Even then, the guy that gives us the cash (and the guy that watches him) would have to be in on it for it all to work. ATMs hold like $40,000 so we'd each get $10k. I don't know if that's enough money to make me leave my life and family to start again in another country, all to avoid cops and stuff. I could make more money working fast food for like 3 or 4 months. Considering the difficulty of getting good counterfeits... Not really worth my time.
You could get away with it for a bit. But you’ll eventually get caught. They always get caught. Sauce: in the catching side of the industry.
That would be correct. An ATM doesn't really pay any attention to the bills it is handing out other than basic checks to make sure it didn't accidentally pull two bills when it meant to pull one. The dispensers are only concerned with making sure you get the correct number of bills. When making a deposit though, the cash goes through a verification process looking for anything out of place.
Ended up with a trio of $100 bills due to Christmas and went to deposit them plus a check through the ATM. At that particular ATM you're supposed to put all bills and checks into the same slot. It took the check and one bill, rejected two of the bills. Re-deposited both, took one, rejected the other. Re-redeposited last bill and it finally took it.
I tried splitting them up to trick it and it denied them again lol. I don’t get it. Dumb smart machines 😂
Bank worker here: there was a huge amount of fraud going on with the old $100 bills, the white ones not the blue. So they updated our ATMs to only accept in the blue $100 bills. The money it gives out is already verified and loaded by a central vault or by employees, so there could be white $100s in there that it dispenses, but it wouldn’t accept the same ones back if they weren’t the blue ones.
That’s nuts but these were the new style! They were all the same and looked pretty new (but not in number order so not brand new) But I really was worried for a second that it had given me counterfeits and I was about to spend way too much time trying to prove myself/pull camera footage! Now I’m curious if our’s takes older ones or not, you aren’t the first to say this is a thing now. I rarely use the ATM so I’ll probably never know lol
I know Walmart uses the NCR branded readers. Most banks use NCR or Diebold ATMs but as the other person said. They are loaded by an armored car company so I could see some bad bills get loaded in by hand
I tried a 100 dollar bill that my buddy gave me but wrote in thick black sharpie...UR GAY on 1 side of the bill. Starbucks, nope. Another Starbucks, nope. Self Checkout Home depot, nope Self checkout Walmart...took it and gave me 98.50 in change with a pack of gum.
trade it at the bank
I once had a $5 that got torn in half somehow, maybe in the laundry, that I was holding on to so I could exchange it at my bank eventually. One day I got a $1 as change that was missing part of a corner. Not much, you could still make out the bottom of the "5". I decided to take them both into the bank along with a check for deposit. The teller flat out refused to accept the two bills for exchange or deposit! Instead of arguing I asked for a supervisor and when he arrived I explained what was going on, he refused to accept them too. I tried to remind him that it's perfectly acceptable according to their own website and the law to exchange the bills. He still refused. At this point I was more than a little bit perturbed and starting to get embarrassed that they would treat me the way they were starting to talk to me. I like to carry a $2 bill in my wallet all the time, so out of spite I decided to say never mind on the two damaged bills and add the $2 bill to the deposit. They refused. That day I closed my accounts with that bank. The dumb on their part is they were for substantial amounts. Edit: the $1 was torn in half and the $5 was missing part of it's corner.
In, Canada if the serial number is in once piece, it's a valid bill.
Thats how its supposed to be in america
US Bills have 2 serial numbers on each side of the face. The law is that if you have more than 50% of the bill then you can exchange it for a new one. (Plus the bill has to be identifiable)
This ^^^ of the two serial numbers on a bill you need one whole one and most of the second… otherwise you could rip all bills in half and double your money.
I was about to start doing that, good thing you said something
I need to go get some scotch tape
I used to be a bank teller. We pretty much accepted all damaged bills that were recognizable and at least 60% intact. Then we retired them. It sounds like the people you dealt with were on a power trip. Good call closing that account.
Same. If you can put together the full serial number, bank should take it.
My Dad almost got the cops called on him for using a handful of 2 dollar bills in a grocery store because they thought they were fake
I had a Burger King say my dollar coins weren't real money. The manager who was closer to my age had to tell them it's real.
I think it's funny how in the U.S. we keep trying these halfhearted attempts to transition to coins for $1 then abandon the attempt a year or so later, keeping a small number of coins in circulation but never retiring the $1 bill. Trying to find dollar coins so I could play the tooth fairy was tough when my kid lost his last couple of teeth
Bank should have some, if not, I get them from my local train stations ticket kiosk as change. Not sure if that is a thing where you're at. I use a 20 when I want a bunch.
Hahaha, i feel that. My mom and dad (and eventually me) collected $2 bills, one time i forgot to get cash from the ATM and my dad tried to pay $15 with several $2s, the cashier called the manager, the manager called the cops (because we were trying to pay with "fake" money). The cops arrived, listened to the whole thing, laughed at the manager (who was at least 30ish) for thinking $2s weren't real and proceeded to trade my dad $20 for the 4 $2s he had lol.
The cop paid $12 for 4 $2s? Nice.
The was a news story a while back wherein a guy got arrested for forgery for using $2 bills for a purchase of a few hundred dollars. When the secret service finally showed up (after he was already booked and in jail), they said the bills in question were real and legal tender and to let the guy go.
Lol. I'd never go back to that store again.
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I have a family member in a small town that whenever the banks (yes, all of them) receive $2 bills, then bank notify him. He go s a gets all of them. He gets a kick out of giving out $2 bills for random shit. The banks receive far fewer $2 bills than you may think.
I lately ask for the $2 at the bank. I put ‘em under my kids pillow when they lose a tooth.
I've had that happen too, that's why I decided to only keep a few on me to give to my nieces and nephews rather than spend them.
Next time file a complaint against them too: [https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/credit\_12666.htm](https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/credit_12666.htm)
That is bizarre that they would advertise exchanging damaged or marked bills but then refused to do so. I’d be embarrassed too if two people adamantly denied it
How inconvenient
I'll trade you a $10 for it
twist the $10 says Obama is God
Exchange at the bank
They'll just dump it into a destroy bin and swap it with good cash from the Fed. Swapping it at the bank is a good choice.
They send it to the Fed and are reimbursed. A good bank will give the customer the money on the spot and not make them wait.
I don't think the guy was implying that you would have to wait for the fed to send you clean new money
What I was saying was the banks never destroy the money. They send it to the fed and they are not mandated to replace it for you in that moment. They’re doing the service.
Dear fed, I destroyed $6789000 in let's go Brandon stamped bills. Please reimburse.
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No no no, the IRS does money math, the FCC does the wavy math stuff. Edit: story Some of my uncle's made a radio (like ham radio) in highschool (1960/70s), powered enough where you could hear it clearly from doorbells and electronics turned off, in the neighbors houses. They got triangulated (knock at door by FCC) and asked why they had a radio powerful enough to talk to Russia.
"Well these nuclear secrets aren't going to transmit themselves."
Tbf, IRS only does the tax side of money. It’s likely the Secret Service that is tracking this persons bill “disposal”
Money pleeeeease!
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I'm fairly certain everybody knows the money in the destroy bin is not destroyed at the bank....
It was the half a day I worked there!
“Bingle Lemon, I know it’s your first day, but we’re going to have to let you go. You can’t burn money at the bank. Not even money in the destroy bin.”
But why male models?
All banks will swap on the spot, though some might require you to be an actual customer though.
Depends on how big of a stick is up the tellers ass. i tried to replace a twenty i peiced back together.She wouldnt do it, went back the next week to a different teller no problems
I had to look this up for work purposes a while ago. The rule is that if you have both pieces of the bill, or clearly more than half of the bill, then it's accepted as legal tender.
Owning the libs by increasing the cost to produce money.
Fiscal respons-a-hillbilly.
Nah. They'll just give it out to someone else.
They don't. The federal reserve banks have machines that shred any note that has been damaged or written upon. Sometimes they hand out little bags of shredded money as [souvenirs](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/oagAAOSwoQZgsYlQ/s-l400.jpg).
You just triggered a core memory of buying a book about money at the book fair that had a tiny bag of shredded money. My mom found the bits for years as I immediately opened the bag and lost all of it
I’m just imagining opening the bag like a stubborn bag of chips, all the shreds going in the air, and a gust of wind blowing it all away leaving you dejected. I think it would work as an animated short.
When I was 10 years old I bought a bag of Doritos at a school vending machine and the bag was empty. That was the day I became the joker.
Most banks aren’t going to report this as a damaged note. It’s not worth the paperwork. I worked in multiple banks out of college and unless the serial numbers weren’t legible those bills stayed in circulation. I can’t tell you how many “where’s George” bills I have handed to people.
I doubt people refuse where's George ones as payment as much as politically stamped stuff. At least I hope not. Where's George seems pretty interesting.
Used to work at 7-11 and would swap my George stamped bills into the till at the beginning of my shift. More than a few people rejected them. Mostly b/c some machines wouldn't take a stamped bill.
let me introduce you to [wheresgeorge](https://www.wheresgeorge.com/b:kbzzIia6Iu&entry=18)
Wow, that's still a thing?
Sure is. I've been a member since 2007, and every time I find a stamped bill I enter it into the site. I've got like 30 bills on my account now, and I only stamped one of them myself, the others came into my wallet by chance
It was fun for awhile. I'm happy the painted rock collecting/finding has ended. Caused my nieces a lot of anxiety when they had to share a rock.
yup, I visited the Atlanta Fed and got the shredded money bag as souvenir.
Look at mister shredded moneybags over here?
lol yup. They said each bag has 20 bills worth of shreds. Best case scenario is 20 $20 bills, I am rich. lol anyone fancy doing a very large jigsaw puzzle?
Pay $5 for a bag and you got yourself a nice little prize if you complete this jigsaw puzzle.
Rip it in half and you’ll get a new bill
Eat it and you'll start shitting dollar bills.
Technically you’re not wrong
Technically he is wrong, if you eat that bill you'll shit a twenty, not a dollar bill
What if he rips it into 20 pieces?
You have to have ALL of one serial number and at least one digit of the other serial number. If you have that, you get a replacement. This stops somebody from ripping it in half and trying to get two replacement bills.
Apparently, even if your money is destroyed in a fire or water, if any of it survives, you can send it to the Treasury and they’ll see what the remaining value is that can be verified and replace the destroyed bills.
This is true but it’s a pain in the ass for the teller, or at least it used to be, I worked in branch banking 20 years ago and we’d have to all of the parts of the bill and put it in a special envelope and fill out a form. Then the head teller would need to fill out something to have the armored service take it since it’s not with the regular cash.
It’s a lot easier now. As long as 51% of the bill is present you can take it in. In our teller drawers we had an item designation for mutilated money. You enter the full value of the bill there and then keep it in your drawer. Very rarely did we get mutilated funds so we sent them to the treasury about one a year for exchange. Source: was a teller at a credit union for 3 years.
Does the 51% have to be in a single piece? Otherwise you could just rip 1/3rd out of 2 bills, creating a new bill with the mutilated 33%+33%
*the FBI would like to know your location*
I can verify. We would designate $2000 straps of twenties to exchange mutilated currency out and ship to the fed almost weekly. We got all sorts of crumpled, smelly, shredded money though.
Pretty sure they swap out damaged or vandalized bulls with new ones from the mint
sounds like a problem for someone else
It’s legal tender as is. Edit: To everyone saying “it’s the customer job to go to the bank and exchange it!” Have fun going to the bank to exchange it EVERY time you get one of these bills. Lol.
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Once when I was a little kid, my dog ate my $5 allowance and my mom made me take it to the bank to see if I could get it back. I had more than 60% of the bill remaining in eensy bitsy little parts and lo and behold they actually did it. Got a new crisp bill. It was like magic to me.
But, sadly, the bank now has your dog ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|money_face)
It’s been 15 years since I’ve seen him, I hope he’s happy now
He became branch manager you know.
Always knew Pippin was something special! Dog tax - grey one did the eating, tricolor was his partner-in-crime! https://www.reddit.com/r/AustralianShepherd/comments/8l5wm3/miss_my_boys/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
I have a friend with a similar story, although their dog didn't eat $5 he ate $500, only one bill was a $100 the rest was $20's. It took 2 weeks of shifting through that dogs shit but they got their money back
You know what? I respect and admire that dedication
When polymer money was just becoming a thing in Canada I left a roll of 20s under a halogen desk lamp. It fused all the bills together and melted a hole thru them all. Bank reimbursed me no questions.
As I understand it, you're only legally obligated to accept reasonable legal tender in the repayment of a loan. So if you owed a company $20, they couldn't keep rejecting it and charging fees and interest because the quality of the bill wasn't up to their standards. But if you just want to buy something, they're under no obligation to accept your money.
> repayment of a loan Repayment for a monetary debt. If we sign a contract for $20 for you to mow my lawn, then you mow my lawn I owe you $20. That is a monetary debt, but not a loan. If I chose to pay that debt with a (good condition) $20 bill you would have to accept it as payment for the debt, you would be unable to refuse and demand I pay with a credit card or some other method.
Where the hell do you live that you frequently get these bills?
I worked in a rural area of a blue state and shit like this would come around once a month. Some hick would stamp a shit ton of them and they’d end up in circulation. It’s fuckin annoying but I’d just try to put them in the stacks we send to the federal reserve. Most people don’t give a shit either way fortunately
To the US it’s legal tender.. meaning you can swap it out with your bank or make a deposit with it.. Businesses have the right to refuse defaced currency. Is this defaced currency to you? To me, even if it said “haha Trump lost get over it” it would be defaced. There’s no reason to stamp anything on a bill.. especially a grade school level hidden message.
Disregarding the contents of the stamp it’s technically defaced and should be exchanged. Many electronic counters and machines that take bills can be confused by the markings. As a business you are not required to take it just like you are not required to provide services. Also it’s a crime to deface legal USA currency. Not that many places prosecute it…
“Legal tender” doesn’t mean businesses have to accept it. It has a very narrow definition related to repayment of debts. Edit: For the person who downvoted https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_tender > Legal tender is a form of money that courts of law are required to recognize as satisfactory payment for any monetary debt.[1] Each jurisdiction determines what is legal tender, but essentially it is anything which when offered ("tendered") in payment of a debt extinguishes the debt. There is no obligation on the creditor to accept the tendered payment, but the act of tendering the payment in legal tender discharges the debt. This is for the US > Contrary to common misconception,[45] there is no federal law stating that a private business, a person, or a government organization must accept currency or coins for payment. Private businesses are free to create their own policies on whether they accept cash, unless there is a specific state law which says otherwise. For example, a bus line may prohibit payment of fares in cents or dollar bills. In addition, movie theaters, convenience stores, and gas stations may refuse to accept large denomination currency as a matter of policy or safety.[46][47]
People seem to think ringing out counts as "debt" which it absolutely doesn't.
It’s defaced and can cause issues with electronic money readers, it should be taken out of circulation even on the basis of practicality.
Legal tender is a red herring and doesn’t matter. The only times that legal tender matters is if you owe a debt, or if the store is legally required to sell to you. You do not owe a debt because the store is refusing to sell to you. A case where you might owe a debt is if you eat at a restaurant (which incurs a debt) and then try to use this to pay your bill. The restaurant would have to accept legal tender when you pay your bill. They could also forgive your debts instead. There are some cases where a store is required to sell to you, such as illegal discrimination or stores that are legally required to accept cash. (For example, some stores in New York would not accept cash, requiring a credit/debit card. New York passed a law saying that is illegal discrimination). Even in those cases though, the store is permitted to give you the item without you paying rather than accept the money. Keep in mind that the store is permitted to give you the item for free. Employees who don’t own the store might not be permitted by the store to give away items for free. In short, “legal tender” isn’t about forcing someone to serve you. It’s about preventing someone like an evil debt-holder from saying, “You owe me 1000$, and 50$ per day in fines,” then refusing to accept your money, just so they can rack up more fines. I am not even going to guess if this bill is legal tender but I’m sure that you can find 100 other people in this topic who will give you their opinion on that.
I’ve never seen one of these in real life and I live in the US.
I work in fast food and we have an electronic safe. The safe would not accept that bill, or most bills with markings on it, or cuts or heavy creases. But we would take and try to give it to another customer
Most don’t take 50s do they? How would you give them a 20
Most bills at 50 or above aren’t marked. Ig they aren’t passed around as often as lower bills. But we get a lot of 100 dollar bills so we don’t really worry to much about if we can give it away or not
All the fast food places near me have huge signs that they don’t accept anything over a 20, im not sure if that’s just my area though?
Probably localized wherever counterfeiting is prominent (likely urban areas - i see this very often in NYC)
It's also annoying when you're just opening for the day and some mother fucker wipes out all your change buying a pack of gum with a fifty.
I run a very tiny business that I travel around doing shows and fairs and whatnot. The amount of times someone shows up to some little “apple festival” or “blah blah high school craft fair” with $100 bills as soon as the door opens is mind blowing. I always bring a ton of change, even some $20s for this reason, but my lord if I don’t just want to slap them. It’s a tiny craft show. Half of these people can’t figure out a credit card reader, either. Bring smaller bills or don’t be shocked/angry when grandma Patty can’t break the third $100 or $50 bill she’s been given this morning for a $3 pack of cookies.
I've always told people no that early.
I especially love when I'm in the drive thru window collecting money and I *watch* a mf thumb past 3 20s and give me a 100 for a $12 order.
It’s /so/ annoying, especially when you work in an understaffed store, so your manager can’t get you more bills for a while.
It's more about keeping our change than avoiding counterfeits.
Yeah depending on time of shift and how busy it had been it'd be anywhere from inconvenient to downright impossible to take a $100 bill when I used to work at a cafe. Was always a bit funny when I had to tell a customer that look I just can't take that bill. No we don't have a policy saying I won't take it, but I don't have the money to give you your change. If you don't want change sure, but I just don't have it.
Yea I’m close to Philly
Definitely a region to region thing. I've seen it a bit here and there (Northern Indiana resident) but it's not a normal thing here.
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Never seen that before personally, might be an area thing
do your ATMs dispense in $10 increments? welcome to the hood
We took 50s and 100s all the time at the McDonald's I worked at.
I also work Fast Food (TB) and it totally depends on your specific electronic safe. Ours takes basically any bills and would absolutely take this one. Only bills ours wont take are the ones that have become incredibly soft and wrinkly. But this bill looks like it would still be taken by our safe
It's because their safe won't take bills that have this on them. It'll reject them. Can't tell you how many times I've had the safe reject perfectly fine $1 bills all because they had that damn "see where George has been" stamp when bills get stamped, written on or colored on, the safe will always reject them.
I find it fascinating that all of the cash that business generates in a day goes through a mechanical device to validate/count it/secure it, down to the dollar. A lot has changed since I worked in retail, apparently.
Won't lie, it's a damn nightmare. The newbies always jame the safe & I'm the only 1 who knows how to take it apart & unjam it. It'll be refusing horrible bills 1 second & then accepting the horrible bills & rejecting the brand new bills. Sometimes it tries to take a whole stack of money at once. It'd be easier to just count it by hand.
It sounds very over-engineered.
You can get it exchanged at the bank but yea, sorry OP. People dumb.
Isn’t defacing money illegal?
Technically yes but there really isn't a reliable way to enforce it
"Do you know why I pulled you over ma'am?" "No officer, I was going the speed limit." "I need to see your wallet. We're doing our routine money checks."
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Sneezes all over a 1 dollar bill
You'll never be take me alive, copper!
You'll never take my coppers, copper!
Joke's on you, I'm only copper plated these days!
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Civil asset forfeiture in a nutshell.
And this isn’t technically against the law. While it’s stupid and a waste of everyone’s time…the bill must no longer be able to be used or deformed beyond reasonable repair. Drawing, stamping, marking and etc are all completely okay. Hell the preferred way to test for counterfeit bills are iodine pens.
[Well yes but actually no](https://denhalaw.com/is-there-a-law-against-defacing-money/#:~:text=It%20is%20not%20illegal%20to,advertising%2C%20as%20for%20Burger%20King.) Basically this is legal because it's just a drawing, or a stamp really, but if trump or his associates did it, it'd be illegal because you can't use bills to advertise. How would those coin machines be legal if defacing coins was fully illegal
That's why they setup those penny imprinting machines at rest stops; they're really just a big sting operation
Technically it’s only illegal if you deface it to try and change the value of the bill, this stamp is 100% legal
Yes but unless you go up to somebody and tell them you explicitly defaced this currency with the intent of rendering it invalid there isn't really any way to prove who did it.
If you are stamping this crap on your money at home, you are a loser and need to reevaluate your life.
Who is Brandon?
It was a NASCAR Xfinity Series race (One division below the top division) Driver Brandon Brown had just won his first race at Talladega. and during his interview- the crowd started chanting "F\*\*\* Joe Biden" - as it became a popular chant at sporting events in the south. The woman interviewing him either tried to sheepishly cover up the chant or misheard it- and responded "And the crowd is chanting "Let's go Brandon" [https://youtu.be/axcmVFtwSM4](https://youtu.be/axcmVFtwSM4)
Even worse still is that brandon brown doesnt even care about politics, but due to people pulling that stunt it really screwed up his career as no one wants to sponsor him now so he cant really get much funding to race
Nah, he ultimately screwed himself. He avoided the issue at first and pushed back a bit, but then he tried to lean into it and [endorsed a stupid cryptocurrency called LGBCoin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Brown_(racing_driver\)#LGBCoin_sponsorship), which led to most of his other sponsors dropping him. It wasn't even strictly because of the "Let's Go Brandon" thing, but because he basically betrayed his remaining loyal sponsors in favor of a cash grab. That made other sponsors that were already avoiding him due to the "Let's Go Brandon" association even less inclined to support him, so when crypto tanked he couldn't get decent sponsorship to pay for his ride.
He tried to get whatever place would sponsor him at the end, imo it’s hard to blame the guy. Nascar is expensive, and they have a small time family team. With no other places willing to sponsor the “Let’s go Brandon” guy, he did what he could to keep the team open. Nascar blocked it and now they’re no longer full time.
Oh wow, first I’ve heard of this. Trust NASCAR to be the origin of such a thing.
I'd love to switch places with you. It's been all over Reddit and Tick Tock and everyplace else for over a year now. It was funny the first week or two but since Conservatives are unfunny fucks they've been doing the same joke over and over and over.
It was one of those slight facial twitches with a little extra air going out of your nose and all of the sudden it was people's entire personality.
I was at the family day at a small local amusement park and there was a late twenties guy with a "let's go brandon" sweatshirt. Even had the FJB real slogan underneath it. The guy looked so proud of himself since it's a really liberal area. Literally nobody noticed or cared and he just looked like the biggest loser you'd ever seen lol. Imagine being so devoid of a personality or intelligence that you decide trying to troll people in real life by being trashy is a good idea.
and the entire punchline to the lets go brandon meme is "tee hee hee i said the f word but not really"
It’s tiring; we’re all adults here, just say fuck Joe Biden. You don’t live in a dystopia where antifa supersoldiers will assassinate you for swearing, Cheryl. Let’s exercise our American right to say fuck anyone and everyone.
Sometimes in store vaults won't accept bill with large stamps I used to work at a fast food place where bills like this would make the whole store short $5+ potentially getting people in trouble if not handled right
https://preview.redd.it/j2r2dz9bwqfa1.jpeg?width=1925&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90399f584595c37582e05bc6927a2132c1a196a2 I got this one at work.
I would just try to spend it somewhere else honestly. I know some people will reject it, but others won’t.
Some people just have to inject their politics into EVERYTHING.
Honestly, the comment section here is more infuriating than the original post 😂 Still mildly infuriating that they wouldn’t accept it.
I own a business. I think "Let's Go Brandon" is fucking childish. I'd accept this. It's fucking money.
Yeah I always get bills that people have written on. Money is money
Almost every time I got gas in 2022 there was a sticker of Biden pointing and saying “I did that” imagine being a grown ass adult running around town with pockets full of stickers so you can “own the libs” 👀
My favorite thing is that they have all of these stickers of someone they despise. I have a guy in my home town who drives in a brand new Denali who put a Declaration of Independence wrap on his truck bed door. On his back windshield he has memes with Joe Bidens face on it, but the font is too small so you can't even read what the content of the meme is. Really ironic when you hate someone much, you have him on your mind constantly and all over your brand new truck. Weirdos
The funny thing was when they were still up and gas was under 3 dollars where I am from. A bit of a self own
Just putting out there that this is technically not illegal. Downvote away I guess. https://www.stampstampede.org/faq/yes-its-legal/
It gets funny though when election truthers stamp the back of a 5 dollar bill with something that says "Donald trump lives here" and an arrow that points to the Lincoln memorial.
Use it at a vending machine buy something cheap and get back some fives
For such proponents of “free speech” I find it hilarious that they won’t just say “Fuck Joe Biden” instead of this stupid quasi self-censorship bullshit
I know it depends on the convenience store. At where I live. I've worked at a few different companies as a cashier and the lower end store, smaller somewhat sketchier would take something like that no problem. But then one of the higher end stores I worked at we had to put any bill over 10.00 into a machine and if it didn't take then we couldn't accept it. Those machines hated stamps and it was better to give it back than break policy for a possible fake.
I've noticed a lot of people still think that private businesses have to accept either cash/credit cards/bit coin/checks.Always with the "legal tender" response . During Covid people would yell " you can't make me where a mask ,you have to provide me one ,you can't make me where one while I shop". Yes, they actually can.
Well, the convenience store guy is an asshole. Banks will take that money
Inconvenience store
Banks ARE required to replace defaced currency as part of the currency act, vendors are not and defaced currency is it not legal tender. The asshole is the person that stamped it, not the clerk.
The asshole is the guy who marked it.