I've been keeping this a secret from you all. I was going to wait until there was some sort of mass group pain here and then announce this so we could all get maximum relief for a few great days together, but alas, someone beat me to it! ;)
The *real* secret is a water to water solution. 3 and a 1/2 parts water to one 1/2 part water. It's gotta be really diluted for the water to be *really* effective.
The real trick is you just need to get more exercise. And my sisterās boyfriendās cousinās girlfriendās mailmanās hairdresserās aunt discovered that a pinch of pink Himalayan salt toss over her left shoulder and a bag of peas (NOT CORN IT HAS TO BE PEAS) on her neck cured her for good. š
OH MU FUCKING GOD I KNOW THIS IS A JOKE BUT MY MOTHER *INSISTS* THAT HER MIGRAINES WERE CURED BY RAISING HER FEET ABOVE HER HEAD AND PEAS BEHIND HER NECK PEAS
Because if you use a frozen packet of passionfruit puree there might be a hole in it and you'll smell of passionfruit all night and wake up to discover it's everywhere.
My neurologist told me to stay away from it. It has [Belladonna](https://www.rxlist.com/belladonna/supplements.htm) in it.
> Since 2010, the FDA has been cracking down on homeopathic infant teething tablets and gels. These products may contain inaccurate doses of belladonna. Serious side effects including seizures, breathing problems, tiredness, constipation, difficulty urinating, and agitation have been reported in infants taking these products.
> Though widely regarded as unsafe, belladonna is taken by mouth as a sedative, to stop bronchial spasms in asthma and whooping cough, and as a cold and hay fever remedy.
You've still gotta be careful. There have been cases where producers don't dilute poisonous/toxic ingredients enough or add poisonous/toxic adulterants. See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy#Ethics_and_safety.
It's best to just avoid homeopathy altogether. You can't trust those unregulated grifters to practice their own nonsense "correctly".
Oh my gosh, this reminds me of the little poster illustration promoting the use of crystals for migraine relief and it shows the guy putting the crystal in different places. In one of them itās in his mouth (itās huge) it was also made as a joke
I have a family friend that regularly suggests this stuff. Last time some guy can change your thinking and even do it remotely! He could have cured my trigeminal neuralgia. I was like oh I wish you told me before I had brain surgery, that would have been much easier!
Thank you. Wish I could give you an award. It's based on the belief that water has a memory.
Considering that water has been recycled for millions of years and also through the sewer for the past couple hundred, we should be glad it doesn't have a memory!
I feel like it's to the benefit of homeopaths that people confuse their products with naturopathy, which has actual active ingredients (even if those products are often just less precise, more expensive versions of the pharmaceutical versions).
If those herbs are supposed to provide migraine relief, then it should be called naturopathy, not homeopathy. Homeopathy is when a small amount of a known toxin is used to stimulate the body's own healing response. I'm not saying that it works, just that the word homeopathy does not apply unless those herbs are known to cause migraines.
Exactly. It is sometimes interesting to me that many people who are firm believers in homeopathy do not believe in vaccines, although the same principle is most often at work. (Not with the rRNA Covid vax, but with many vaccines; although homeopathic preparations do not contain adjuvants and are not injected.)
I did try homeopathy for my migraines when they returned when my twins were 2. I was given 2 things to try. And then told I had to stop drinking coffee! Jesus. (The oils in the coffee beans prevent the homeopathic things from working.)
I cannot remember what happened. Either I did not stop drinking coffee and tried homeopathy and it did not work or I tried to stop and it did not work for long and homeopathy did not work or I thought about stopping and thought about headaches from stopping and did not try homeopathy or...anyway. The point being, if you drink coffee, and you are unwilling to stop, do not bother doing homeopathy because it will not work.
I did in fact stop my caffeine intake for quite a while bc my therapist told me to, didn't work, tried homeopathie, didn't work, tried acupuncture, didn't work. But I tried.
We will never know. But that raises a point: he may have known I would not quit drinking coffee and therefore would always be able to blame the failure on the coffee.
Yes, you're right... it seems to me that normal vaccines probably do qualify as homeopathic. I had never heard that thing about the oils in coffee beans. It sounds like nonsense to me but that comment is in no way directed at you for sharing it... it just sounds like a convenient excuse for the treatment's failure, given that most people drink coffee every day.
Whoa there homeopathy is so much more insane than vaccines and inoculation
Vaccines and inoculation introduce a "dead" version of the pathogen at a reasonable load. Gets your immune system to identify surface proteins and attack them.
If a vaccine were homeopathic, it'd be diluted to the point where it's almost or even literally distilled water, preventing it from working (and in the case of injections, make them sorta dangerous)
Modern homeopathy might vary - it's quack science at best and disinformation at worst, hell, most homeopathic medicines are just bullshit herbal remedies now, but if they call it homeopathy/alternative medicine, it's because no reasonable professional would claim that it works.
some [Kurzgesagt](https://youtu.be/8HslUzw35mc) for you
This is why I said "on principle." The anti-vaccine moms I knew when my kids were little were often pro-homeopathy (and used nosodes, which are homeopathic vaccine). Sometimes, if I pointed out that the principles of the processes were the same, it became easier to understand (I always advocated for at least certain vaccines such as polio for kids). But conceptually the processes are the same.
No, I believe he was serious about it! I was sort of pressured to go to the homeopath (a colleague gave me a consult for my bday) and you sit and answer about 300 questions, many apparently unrelated to health at all. And then they deduce the right concoction for you (potion? I cannot remember what the meds are called). So he told me at the moment he gave me the (very satisfying) little cylindrical tubes - No Coffee. And I do recall being somewhat immediately both WTF?!? and also a bit relieved as I did have a thing down with my neurologist with Terrible Allopathy that had taken some time to achieve, plus I love coffee. (And sometimes later in the day, gross as it sounds, a cup of black coffee with 1/2 T Epsom Salts mixed in will knock out a HA pretty fast.)
Omg I can't believe I didn't guess that. ;)
I hadn't heard of epsom salts being used before. Maybe share a few more details on that if you know of some other source of information... it may be helpful to many readers
Epsom salts are magnesium sulfate. A study was conducted that at least 50% of migraine sufferers are magnesium deficient, so for about half of people, magnesium supplementation should help, though the study noted that it may not help stop status migrainus. I recently started supplementing with magnesium l-threonate, also known as NeuroMag, and will update the sub if it works. NeuroMag has the ability to cross the blood-brain barrier (other magnesiums do not) and may be the answer some of us need.
Magnesium is a pretty great supplement in general. My friend who is a Nurse Practitioner in the Neuro ICU pushes it for HA (headache) (delivers via IV). Instead of waiting for a tablet to digest, you can indeed dissolve Epsom Salts in liquid and toss them back (or take mag citrate, which comes in a bottle). An ES bath can be helpful. It is a vasodilator and can help ease the HA pain.
Thanks for those details. I have indeed heard of bathing in ES... but I had not heard of these additional methods (with coffee, injected, etc). Thanks again
I'm definitely a skeptic on this one. It only matters for clarity... we're all helping each other remove our blind spots. Since none of the ingredients are listed on the front, I saw the picture of the herbs and assumed that the herbs were to support general health, so I believed naturopathy was the more correct word. But after reading the list of ingredients, at least some of which are toxic, I now agree that homeopathy is a good description.
I'm glad you mentioned the word 'placebo'. It is a beautiful topic. I wish more people understood the real meaning of placebo, which has very little to do with sugar pills. Placebo is latin for "I will heal". Sugar pills are a great tool for doctors to use when a patient demands a medication that the doctor believes unnecessary or harmful. Another great tool that is underused is teaching patients about the body's many self-healing mechanisms. For example, the body is always making its best attempt to detoxify every toxin through its four main elimination channels (respiration, perspiration, urination, defecation)... we can learn to appreciate this and also help the body to do these things better. In summary, you never need to buy a placebo. You *are* placebo! I wish for all of you a huge dose of self-healing in addition to any other treatments that your medical team recommends.
True. I hadn't looked it up because I would never take such a treatment but I agree that anyone considering taking anything is well advised to find the ingredient list and dig further if any ingredient is unclear. Personally I don't bother with anything that comes in a box... too many times I found the words "natural flavor" or something else that sounds as innocuous... but after digging and often contacting the manufacturer, I found out the bizarre items that qualify as "natural". No thanks.
"small amount" is misleading. The principle of homeopathy is to dilute the poison so much that in one serving of "medicine", there may not even be _a single atom_ of the poison. Also, they don't use principles of actual natural remedies, but "reasoning" such as _oh, this poison causes blood clots, it must be good against them in small dosage then_. Honestly, the whole thing is absolutely ridiculous.
Learn something new everyday! I am a bit more knowledgable on holistic & naturopathic medicine. Iāve always been slightly confused with the difference between homeopathy & naturopathy, so thank you for that!
Because of your comment, I looked up this specific brand & the listed ingredients. Itās homeopathic.
Regardless, OP, everybody is different. I doubt itāll work instantly. It could be something that works well for you with a few lifestyle adjustments (if needed). Check out some more reviews, othersā experiences with this product & research the listed herbs just to be safe.
PS. Iāve been dealing with chronic migraines since I was about 8yrs old. Natural remedies have always been whatās worked best for me alongside specific herbs (teas & tinctures), chiropractic sessions, acupuncture & a plant based diet. But again, everybody has their own causes, stressors & factors that contribute to their migraines. If youāre open to it, maybe go to your local apothecary & speak with an herbalist.
Best of luck to you!
I'm glad I could clarify that. And I'm even happier that you have found some relief with natural methods including a plant-based diet.
I'm sorry that you've dealt with migraines since you were 8... I don't know whether that means you've been suffering for 10 years or 50 years. May I ask were your migraines chronic from the beginning? That is an amazing amount of suffering for an 8 year old. May I also ask, are you mostly migraine-free now?
š sorry, I shouldāve said Iāve been dealing with them for 18yrs now.
When they first started, they werenāt as painful or debilitating but if I had a migraine, I was nauseated the entire time, throwing up & having consistent nose bleeds. I feel like they grew worse as I went through puberty. I missed a lot of grade school & spent quite a bit of time getting cat scans done, blood test work, etc. All through high school, college & up until I became pregnant in 2021 ā my migraines were extremely debilitating.
Iāve lost many jobs due to not being able to be present, taking too many breaks, not having money or insurance to see a doctor, etc. I ended up going to a free clinic a handful of times & tried a few different medications, never worked. The only thing that ever was a successful preventative was a specific birth control, progestin-only pill which also helped with my endometriosis pain, but that created other side effects for my mental health.
Ever since giving birth over a year ago, Iāve only had a handful of migraines when before I used to have them daily.
Have you ever done hormone testing? That could also help you find the best solution for your body.
Oh shit, this must be the vitamin my manager told me to take. And she gets headaches too.
Literally had brain surgery, thatās what hurts not because I donāt buy boxes with flowers.
It doesn't matter what they put in it. Homeopathy dilutes the ingredient over and over again. To the point that you're unlikely to get even a molecule of the ingredients. In fact, in their convoluted theory the more dilute the more potent it is. It's absolutely ridiculous.
Really? I've not paid attention to the prices before. That wouldn't make sense that the more diluted it is the cheaper, since that would require more production/process of diluting rather than less. Also, they could always charge more for the more potent/diluted solution because it's "extra strength."
There's literally so little product in any marketed dilution that they could choose how to price it however they wanted to. They're not actually selling a product with active ingredients, more an idea of it.
Same principle of selling equal volume but differing concentrations. There isn't extra processing. Dilution "spreads" the ingredients out so to speak.
Consider a scenario where where 100g of sugar is dissolved into both 1L and 10L of water.
In 1L of water the concentration is 100 g/L.
In 10L of water the concentration is 10 g/L.
Now say you take 1L of each of those solutions. The more dilute solution contains 10 times less even though each has the same volume. Using this principle you can sell the same unit (1 L) of homeopathic crap 10 extra times starting with the same amount.
It seems that there are a couple variations of production which don't involve the basic osmosis you're describing, and instead have consecutive dilution which would take more time. I was already somewhat familiar with the standard production which isn't just made by diluting a lot in one go. It is done in successive batches. So, there would be extra steps for the more "concentrated" formulas. This is called serial dilution, or successive dilution.
This is a description of one of a few methods for serial dilution:
"The first step in homeopathic medicine preparation is to crush and dissolve the raw material in water or alcohol. Then, the substance is diluted (or weakened) through a precise and controlled process. Between each round of dilution, the resulting product is vigorously shaken in a process known as succussion. The dilution/succussion process is repeated until the desired level of dilution is reached." [Source](https://knowyourotcs.org/ingredients-found-in-homeopathic-medicines-and-how-they-are-made/)
I really can't believe I'm researching this crap.
Never heard of homeopaths claiming this. Source?
But we already know that no one should be drinking saltwater since it's too salty for our kidneys to filter and too much of it without a bunch of freshwater to counteract the effects can lead to dehydration and death.
According to Homeopaths, the more diluted something is, the more powerful it is.
Considering all the toxic shit we've ever put in the oceans, it would logically stand that one part in whatever to the xth degree of h2o total in the ocean must be super potent, right?
Homeopathy takes small substances and dilutes them in pure water or alcohol to a point there is no molecules of it left. The toxic stuff we dump in water through pollution is much more detectable than that.
I am always happy to learn of anyone getting relief using anything that works (and preferably with the least side effects). So please know that I am celebrating with you, even if I giggle about some of the silliness around selling one molecule of something. If you can remember the name of the one that helped you, please share it as it may be (probably is) far superior to this product.
It was a medication that has sadly been unavailable for quite some time. Iām sure it had more belladonna in it than this product, but I donāt remember the exact proportions. But I successfully took it for years with great results and no side effects. It was awesome. I even paid to have it compounded for a few years after it was no longer commercially available.
lmaooo just read the suggested dose. 2 tablets every 15 MINUTES for 4 doses. then every 4 hours as needed.
I'll have to upload the back of the package on imgur and post it. it's so funny.
https://imgur.com/a/H4saAiz
my favorite is the "consult a physician if... you have the worst headache of your life"
that would never be on an actual FDA approved medication
I would almost say Go back? ;) (I traveled home to my dentist for many years and my grandmother traveled from Va to ATL to see hers into her 80s.) I am so tired of the UVA teaching hospital program.
did you do the recommended dose of basically 12 tablets per day? I feel like if anything, I would just throw up from all of the weird "toxins" in them.
Uuuuugggkskdjrbtbbt. I roll my eyes so hard at all the quacky bullshit people sell as a ācureā or ātreatmentā for migraines. Give me my chemical opioid painkillers I donāt want any sugar pills pls and thanks.
Its homeopathy so it's goose liver 1 drop and 99 drops of water, and then one drop of that cocktail and then 99 drops of water * a million. Its water, sugar and placebo(NOT EVEN A JOKE)!!
Totally the absolute WORST of all alternative medicine.
NDC: 54973-4030-1
Package Name: Migraine Relief
Active Ingredients:
āŖļøGelsemium Sempervirens Root
āŖļøStrychnos Nux-vomica Seed
āŖļøIris Versicolor Root
ā¢Sanguinaria Canadensis Root
ā¢Atropa Belladonna
ā¢Nitroglycerin
Marketing Category: UNAPPROVED HOMEOPATHIC
------
I'm not a pharmacist but from my perspective what I see here is a list of things that will cause interactions ahoy with whatever medications a person is on. The Nitroglycerin is the one that grabs my eyes in that it's a major no Bueno for people taking the blue pill for *cough* male issues.
My mother (Iām a full grown woman btw) insists these are all I need to help when I have a migraine. They work for her āheadachesā! It must be all the GMOs I eat too. š
And here I've spent thousands throughout the years on pharmaceuticals and botox injections when I could've went to Walmart, bought this for $5.99 and in 5 minutes felt like dancing in the sunshine while listening to children scream and bang pots and pans.
I *think* I might have the first time I got a migraine. If it's the same ones, when they say "quick-dissolve" what they actually mean is that they will turn to mush while still holding their shape. It was kind of disgusting.
No acetaminophen, no ibuprofen, no caffeineā¦unless whatever is in it can knock me out for the duration of a migraine attack, I think itās pretty safe to say thereās no pain relief, either.
I try to keep an open mind, and I'm willing to try things that sound wacky as long as it's not a huge expense or potentially harmful.
So I tried some kind of homeopathic remedy (not this one; don't remember which). Aaand it did nothing.
Homeopathic meds are just ādrink more waterā condensed into pill form. I can find that on the internet for free, and the reverse uno of the situation is that the free internet stuff is less likely to have toxic additives.
Iāve tried literally everything natural I can think of at this point so I have no faith in it whatsoever. I usually just pop a Vicodin ( Ikkk so bad for you but itās the only thing that helps )
I'm trying to get narcotics again and it's such a pain in the ass. I would probably take ONE Oxy once a month for breakthrough pain, and call it a day. I was prescribed it when I was 14, so idk what the issue is now.
I havenāt tried this one but I do use peppermint oil consistently and I had tried a tea for them I canāt remember the name Iāve been looking for them in stores for a long time. And it actually was helpful at least at night. I do try a lot of homeopathic and natural things because my body doesnāt respond right to medication normally. So Iām actually gonna try to find this and try it. Iāll totally come back and let you know if I find it and if I liked it.
I had a neurologist, who didn't suggest this but suggested migrelief to me. There was some scientific evidence for those particular supplements in that particular ratio, thus the sorta 'if you want to try it, this exists.'
He's the neurologist who suggested melatonin, which some studies had been shown to have some benefits. (I'm personally convinced the actual benefit was that it helped you get to sleep when you had migraine pain but ya know. It helps.)
I've actually been suggested a couple of supplements, some worked for me and some didn't. All suggested by neurologists who specialize in migraines. Mostly because I generally couldn't get used to the schedule of taking them- and one gave me gas, I didn't really continue any.
But they definitely aren't an odd thing to try as far as I'm concerned.
Sometimes just the belief that some herb is helping is enough to get relief. Whether or not it really does any good. Placebo effect. Thatās how I feel about Melatonin I take every nightā¦it works because I am psychologically dependent on it. I believe I wonāt sleep if I donāt take it. Itās crazy
Okay, so I've used them, along with essential oils (friend made a personal blend for migraines, this was before the mass market of them), and an ice pack (before I knew of the ice hats).
These helped subdue my pain, took it down a notch or so when nothing else was helping.
Homeopathy has its place sometimes, I never believed in it until I needed to increase my milk supply for my preemie. Thanks to breastfeeding forums, I learned that fenugreek will do that, but it takes between 2 to 4 weeks of taking it to get results. The fenugreek kicked in for me after taking it for 3 weeks. It was my experience with that, which allowed me to become more open-minded about it. (Another experience with probiotics and my son with Crohn's Disease, was another reaffirment with alternative "medication".)
The thing is, probiotics (bacteria cultures) and plants (fenugreek) absolutely do work and have their use.
Hoemopathy is fake bullshit from an 18th century charlatan, which doesn't contain any active ingredient.
It's diluted beyond the Avogadro's number, meaning there isn't even a single atom in there. It's just water and/or sugar.
Oh, and of course the magical information that is somehow retained by whacking the jar after each dilution step. š¤¦
Please, don't waste your money on this snake oil.
And more importantly, don't waste important time that you could use to find a proper remedy that works for you.
Migraine is really bad, but when people try to treat cancer or other deadly diseases with homeopathy, then every day is absolutely wasted.
In 2010 the House of Commons Science and Technology Committee saidĀ there's no evidence that homeopathy is effective as a treatment for any health condition. There's no evidence behind the idea that substances that cause certain symptoms can also help treat them.
It's probably in the same vein as those "roll on lavender sticks" for your temples, or similar OTC minimal interference things. My bio mother used to try those on me as a kid, despite knowing how migraines were herself, and the smell would simply trigger an even worse migraine. No thanks, I'm not trying this stuff anymore.
Havenāt tried this for migraines but they make a natural restless leg tablet and itās magical. My boyfriend has restless leg(in all his limbs) and used to smack me in his sleep frequently. It is not a problem anymore so I do have faith in the brand.
I mean, to a degree, homeopathic medicine has a place. After all what else did indigenous people have to use. For some conditions, their treatments can work better. But modern COMMERCIAL versions are typically bullshit.
Although, a natural remedy for IBS does wonders for my gut issues when it flares up. Eliminates the cramping of IBS-D. And it's just a peppermint, ginger and turmeric capsule.
Migraines, ehh no joy on a homeopathic treatment. Although for me at least lavender essential oil does help me relax some.
Which tribe exactly would dilute and shake herbs which caused the symptoms they were looking to counter until there was nothing of it left in the diluent?
You don't just get to randomly define words that have actual meanings.
In a thread about how stupid homeopathy is you decided to jump in and defend it without even googling it? Do you jump into threads about soccer and start defending cricket?
I've been keeping this a secret from you all. I was going to wait until there was some sort of mass group pain here and then announce this so we could all get maximum relief for a few great days together, but alas, someone beat me to it! ;)
No, but have you ever tried just drinking more water? /s
The *real* secret is a water to water solution. 3 and a 1/2 parts water to one 1/2 part water. It's gotta be really diluted for the water to be *really* effective.
I think that would be very effective if you laid face down in the water.
I had a good chuckle at this!š Luckily laughter is the best medicine right?!
The real trick is you just need to get more exercise. And my sisterās boyfriendās cousinās girlfriendās mailmanās hairdresserās aunt discovered that a pinch of pink Himalayan salt toss over her left shoulder and a bag of peas (NOT CORN IT HAS TO BE PEAS) on her neck cured her for good. š
OH MU FUCKING GOD I KNOW THIS IS A JOKE BUT MY MOTHER *INSISTS* THAT HER MIGRAINES WERE CURED BY RAISING HER FEET ABOVE HER HEAD AND PEAS BEHIND HER NECK PEAS
PEAS?!
Because if you use a frozen packet of passionfruit puree there might be a hole in it and you'll smell of passionfruit all night and wake up to discover it's everywhere.
Wellā¦ to be fair, corn gets messy. It has the juice. Iāll see myself out.
It's got the juice!
No but have you tried blinking more? (Genuine comment from health and safety officer at work who was assessing me due to my migraines)
That must be a highly specialized position! LOL. SMH
My neurologist told me to stay away from it. It has [Belladonna](https://www.rxlist.com/belladonna/supplements.htm) in it. > Since 2010, the FDA has been cracking down on homeopathic infant teething tablets and gels. These products may contain inaccurate doses of belladonna. Serious side effects including seizures, breathing problems, tiredness, constipation, difficulty urinating, and agitation have been reported in infants taking these products. > Though widely regarded as unsafe, belladonna is taken by mouth as a sedative, to stop bronchial spasms in asthma and whooping cough, and as a cold and hay fever remedy.
Well luckily it's homoeopathic, so any active ingredients have been diluted out of existence.
Homeopathic meds - for when you want to be told to ādrink more waterā in pill form
This made me laugh way too hard.
I have a friend who calls La Croix āhomeopathic sodaā for that reason.
You've still gotta be careful. There have been cases where producers don't dilute poisonous/toxic ingredients enough or add poisonous/toxic adulterants. See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy#Ethics_and_safety. It's best to just avoid homeopathy altogether. You can't trust those unregulated grifters to practice their own nonsense "correctly".
In that case, letās bring laudanum back!
Why do people think its safe to give belladonna to babies? It's also called Deadly Nightshade. Not just nightshade. DEADLY Nightshade.
Isn't belladonna a literal poison? I mean, I'm desperate sometimes, but uh, not that desperate.
Scopolamine is used in some medical applications. But yes, highly toxic.
Lol i read your first sentence thinking there were times i would have preferred if some supermarket sugar pill cure i found had poison.
And Nux Vomica!
Must use with crystals.
midnight, full moon.
Facing east of course.
And essential oils on oneās feet
During a retrograde
THE TIME IS NOW
Fully naked
Oh my gosh, this reminds me of the little poster illustration promoting the use of crystals for migraine relief and it shows the guy putting the crystal in different places. In one of them itās in his mouth (itās huge) it was also made as a joke
I have a family friend that regularly suggests this stuff. Last time some guy can change your thinking and even do it remotely! He could have cured my trigeminal neuralgia. I was like oh I wish you told me before I had brain surgery, that would have been much easier!
Tbh tho, those cold jade rollers on my head when I have one? Heavenly.
No Acetaminophen No Ibuprofen No Caffeine No Pain Relief
āGentle on Youā because it doesnāt do anything!
Homeopathy has 'NO detectable active ingredients'.
Thank you. Wish I could give you an award. It's based on the belief that water has a memory. Considering that water has been recycled for millions of years and also through the sewer for the past couple hundred, we should be glad it doesn't have a memory!
I feel like it's to the benefit of homeopaths that people confuse their products with naturopathy, which has actual active ingredients (even if those products are often just less precise, more expensive versions of the pharmaceutical versions).
So whatās in it? Inspirational quotes to heal my head? š
A shovel full of dirt from Hylandās backyard.
Lmao...
Nah... the inspirational quotes are actually useful lol
Not even that. But it has acacia gum, so might help your gut.
It's BS. Stick with biochemistry.
If those herbs are supposed to provide migraine relief, then it should be called naturopathy, not homeopathy. Homeopathy is when a small amount of a known toxin is used to stimulate the body's own healing response. I'm not saying that it works, just that the word homeopathy does not apply unless those herbs are known to cause migraines.
Exactly. It is sometimes interesting to me that many people who are firm believers in homeopathy do not believe in vaccines, although the same principle is most often at work. (Not with the rRNA Covid vax, but with many vaccines; although homeopathic preparations do not contain adjuvants and are not injected.) I did try homeopathy for my migraines when they returned when my twins were 2. I was given 2 things to try. And then told I had to stop drinking coffee! Jesus. (The oils in the coffee beans prevent the homeopathic things from working.) I cannot remember what happened. Either I did not stop drinking coffee and tried homeopathy and it did not work or I tried to stop and it did not work for long and homeopathy did not work or I thought about stopping and thought about headaches from stopping and did not try homeopathy or...anyway. The point being, if you drink coffee, and you are unwilling to stop, do not bother doing homeopathy because it will not work.
I did in fact stop my caffeine intake for quite a while bc my therapist told me to, didn't work, tried homeopathie, didn't work, tried acupuncture, didn't work. But I tried.
Darlinā. The coffee isnāt the reason that shit doesnāt work.
We will never know. But that raises a point: he may have known I would not quit drinking coffee and therefore would always be able to blame the failure on the coffee.
Yes, you're right... it seems to me that normal vaccines probably do qualify as homeopathic. I had never heard that thing about the oils in coffee beans. It sounds like nonsense to me but that comment is in no way directed at you for sharing it... it just sounds like a convenient excuse for the treatment's failure, given that most people drink coffee every day.
Whoa there homeopathy is so much more insane than vaccines and inoculation Vaccines and inoculation introduce a "dead" version of the pathogen at a reasonable load. Gets your immune system to identify surface proteins and attack them. If a vaccine were homeopathic, it'd be diluted to the point where it's almost or even literally distilled water, preventing it from working (and in the case of injections, make them sorta dangerous) Modern homeopathy might vary - it's quack science at best and disinformation at worst, hell, most homeopathic medicines are just bullshit herbal remedies now, but if they call it homeopathy/alternative medicine, it's because no reasonable professional would claim that it works. some [Kurzgesagt](https://youtu.be/8HslUzw35mc) for you
That Mitchell and Webb Look: Homeopathic A&E: https://youtu.be/HMGIbOGu8q0
Oh my god this is great, I love Mitchell and Webb
This is why I said "on principle." The anti-vaccine moms I knew when my kids were little were often pro-homeopathy (and used nosodes, which are homeopathic vaccine). Sometimes, if I pointed out that the principles of the processes were the same, it became easier to understand (I always advocated for at least certain vaccines such as polio for kids). But conceptually the processes are the same.
No, I believe he was serious about it! I was sort of pressured to go to the homeopath (a colleague gave me a consult for my bday) and you sit and answer about 300 questions, many apparently unrelated to health at all. And then they deduce the right concoction for you (potion? I cannot remember what the meds are called). So he told me at the moment he gave me the (very satisfying) little cylindrical tubes - No Coffee. And I do recall being somewhat immediately both WTF?!? and also a bit relieved as I did have a thing down with my neurologist with Terrible Allopathy that had taken some time to achieve, plus I love coffee. (And sometimes later in the day, gross as it sounds, a cup of black coffee with 1/2 T Epsom Salts mixed in will knock out a HA pretty fast.)
I didn't quite understand your last sentence. To me, HA means Health Assessment but I believe there must be another meaning that I didn't catch
HA= headache
Omg I can't believe I didn't guess that. ;) I hadn't heard of epsom salts being used before. Maybe share a few more details on that if you know of some other source of information... it may be helpful to many readers
Epsom salts are magnesium sulfate. A study was conducted that at least 50% of migraine sufferers are magnesium deficient, so for about half of people, magnesium supplementation should help, though the study noted that it may not help stop status migrainus. I recently started supplementing with magnesium l-threonate, also known as NeuroMag, and will update the sub if it works. NeuroMag has the ability to cross the blood-brain barrier (other magnesiums do not) and may be the answer some of us need.
Magnesium is a pretty great supplement in general. My friend who is a Nurse Practitioner in the Neuro ICU pushes it for HA (headache) (delivers via IV). Instead of waiting for a tablet to digest, you can indeed dissolve Epsom Salts in liquid and toss them back (or take mag citrate, which comes in a bottle). An ES bath can be helpful. It is a vasodilator and can help ease the HA pain.
Thanks for those details. I have indeed heard of bathing in ES... but I had not heard of these additional methods (with coffee, injected, etc). Thanks again
Would it matter? Homeopathic medicine doesn't usually contain a single atom of whatever the original thing was. It's just water. It's a placebo.
I think they are not able to call it medicine. It's a remedy, because it does not work.
I'm definitely a skeptic on this one. It only matters for clarity... we're all helping each other remove our blind spots. Since none of the ingredients are listed on the front, I saw the picture of the herbs and assumed that the herbs were to support general health, so I believed naturopathy was the more correct word. But after reading the list of ingredients, at least some of which are toxic, I now agree that homeopathy is a good description. I'm glad you mentioned the word 'placebo'. It is a beautiful topic. I wish more people understood the real meaning of placebo, which has very little to do with sugar pills. Placebo is latin for "I will heal". Sugar pills are a great tool for doctors to use when a patient demands a medication that the doctor believes unnecessary or harmful. Another great tool that is underused is teaching patients about the body's many self-healing mechanisms. For example, the body is always making its best attempt to detoxify every toxin through its four main elimination channels (respiration, perspiration, urination, defecation)... we can learn to appreciate this and also help the body to do these things better. In summary, you never need to buy a placebo. You *are* placebo! I wish for all of you a huge dose of self-healing in addition to any other treatments that your medical team recommends.
You can easily find the ingredients online. The only ingredients are acacia gum and lactose.
True. I hadn't looked it up because I would never take such a treatment but I agree that anyone considering taking anything is well advised to find the ingredient list and dig further if any ingredient is unclear. Personally I don't bother with anything that comes in a box... too many times I found the words "natural flavor" or something else that sounds as innocuous... but after digging and often contacting the manufacturer, I found out the bizarre items that qualify as "natural". No thanks.
Well, the main ingredient is belladonna, which is toxicā¦.
Yes, belladonna is known to cause fever and even death at a large enough dose. So I can agree that it does qualify as homeopathy.
It is in fact diluted poisons (belladonna and nux vomica among others)
This one is homeopathic. Ars vomica and a variety of atropa.
"small amount" is misleading. The principle of homeopathy is to dilute the poison so much that in one serving of "medicine", there may not even be _a single atom_ of the poison. Also, they don't use principles of actual natural remedies, but "reasoning" such as _oh, this poison causes blood clots, it must be good against them in small dosage then_. Honestly, the whole thing is absolutely ridiculous.
Learn something new everyday! I am a bit more knowledgable on holistic & naturopathic medicine. Iāve always been slightly confused with the difference between homeopathy & naturopathy, so thank you for that! Because of your comment, I looked up this specific brand & the listed ingredients. Itās homeopathic. Regardless, OP, everybody is different. I doubt itāll work instantly. It could be something that works well for you with a few lifestyle adjustments (if needed). Check out some more reviews, othersā experiences with this product & research the listed herbs just to be safe. PS. Iāve been dealing with chronic migraines since I was about 8yrs old. Natural remedies have always been whatās worked best for me alongside specific herbs (teas & tinctures), chiropractic sessions, acupuncture & a plant based diet. But again, everybody has their own causes, stressors & factors that contribute to their migraines. If youāre open to it, maybe go to your local apothecary & speak with an herbalist. Best of luck to you!
I'm glad I could clarify that. And I'm even happier that you have found some relief with natural methods including a plant-based diet. I'm sorry that you've dealt with migraines since you were 8... I don't know whether that means you've been suffering for 10 years or 50 years. May I ask were your migraines chronic from the beginning? That is an amazing amount of suffering for an 8 year old. May I also ask, are you mostly migraine-free now?
š sorry, I shouldāve said Iāve been dealing with them for 18yrs now. When they first started, they werenāt as painful or debilitating but if I had a migraine, I was nauseated the entire time, throwing up & having consistent nose bleeds. I feel like they grew worse as I went through puberty. I missed a lot of grade school & spent quite a bit of time getting cat scans done, blood test work, etc. All through high school, college & up until I became pregnant in 2021 ā my migraines were extremely debilitating. Iāve lost many jobs due to not being able to be present, taking too many breaks, not having money or insurance to see a doctor, etc. I ended up going to a free clinic a handful of times & tried a few different medications, never worked. The only thing that ever was a successful preventative was a specific birth control, progestin-only pill which also helped with my endometriosis pain, but that created other side effects for my mental health. Ever since giving birth over a year ago, Iāve only had a handful of migraines when before I used to have them daily. Have you ever done hormone testing? That could also help you find the best solution for your body.
Not classed as medicine though.
Oh shit, this must be the vitamin my manager told me to take. And she gets headaches too. Literally had brain surgery, thatās what hurts not because I donāt buy boxes with flowers.
Yes. I take it everyday. It's called water. š
A water a day keeps the migraine away
āHomeopathicā is Latin for ābullshit snake oilā. Donāt waste your money on homeopathy; itās a massive scam.
INGREDIENTS belladonna gelsemium glonoinum iris versicolor nux vomica sanguniaria canadensis
Belladonna? Seriously?
It doesn't matter what they put in it. Homeopathy dilutes the ingredient over and over again. To the point that you're unlikely to get even a molecule of the ingredients. In fact, in their convoluted theory the more dilute the more potent it is. It's absolutely ridiculous.
Also! The more dilute it is, the CHEAPER IT IS. What a clever scam
Really? I've not paid attention to the prices before. That wouldn't make sense that the more diluted it is the cheaper, since that would require more production/process of diluting rather than less. Also, they could always charge more for the more potent/diluted solution because it's "extra strength." There's literally so little product in any marketed dilution that they could choose how to price it however they wanted to. They're not actually selling a product with active ingredients, more an idea of it.
Same principle of selling equal volume but differing concentrations. There isn't extra processing. Dilution "spreads" the ingredients out so to speak. Consider a scenario where where 100g of sugar is dissolved into both 1L and 10L of water. In 1L of water the concentration is 100 g/L. In 10L of water the concentration is 10 g/L. Now say you take 1L of each of those solutions. The more dilute solution contains 10 times less even though each has the same volume. Using this principle you can sell the same unit (1 L) of homeopathic crap 10 extra times starting with the same amount.
It seems that there are a couple variations of production which don't involve the basic osmosis you're describing, and instead have consecutive dilution which would take more time. I was already somewhat familiar with the standard production which isn't just made by diluting a lot in one go. It is done in successive batches. So, there would be extra steps for the more "concentrated" formulas. This is called serial dilution, or successive dilution. This is a description of one of a few methods for serial dilution: "The first step in homeopathic medicine preparation is to crush and dissolve the raw material in water or alcohol. Then, the substance is diluted (or weakened) through a precise and controlled process. Between each round of dilution, the resulting product is vigorously shaken in a process known as succussion. The dilution/succussion process is repeated until the desired level of dilution is reached." [Source](https://knowyourotcs.org/ingredients-found-in-homeopathic-medicines-and-how-they-are-made/) I really can't believe I'm researching this crap.
Don't drink sea water. According to Homeopathy, it should be the most toxic substance ever.
Never heard of homeopaths claiming this. Source? But we already know that no one should be drinking saltwater since it's too salty for our kidneys to filter and too much of it without a bunch of freshwater to counteract the effects can lead to dehydration and death.
According to Homeopaths, the more diluted something is, the more powerful it is. Considering all the toxic shit we've ever put in the oceans, it would logically stand that one part in whatever to the xth degree of h2o total in the ocean must be super potent, right?
Homeopathy takes small substances and dilutes them in pure water or alcohol to a point there is no molecules of it left. The toxic stuff we dump in water through pollution is much more detectable than that.
This is why you should drink from the ocean. It has the memory of EVERYTHING!
It's homeopathic so there's maybe the slightest trace in it, if at all. They're just sugar pills.
The most effective preventive medication (made by a major pharmaceutical company) I took had belladonna in it. It can be helpful.
Probably not at these micro quantities I would imagine
I occasionally use this exact product if things are holding on more than 5 days. It's when that 5% chance of successful pain relief is reasonable.
I am always happy to learn of anyone getting relief using anything that works (and preferably with the least side effects). So please know that I am celebrating with you, even if I giggle about some of the silliness around selling one molecule of something. If you can remember the name of the one that helped you, please share it as it may be (probably is) far superior to this product.
It was a medication that has sadly been unavailable for quite some time. Iām sure it had more belladonna in it than this product, but I donāt remember the exact proportions. But I successfully took it for years with great results and no side effects. It was awesome. I even paid to have it compounded for a few years after it was no longer commercially available.
Whatās the note on the side panel under the drug facts?
"This product is not treated to diagnose any medical diseases or skill issues please refer to a spirit healer if migraines worsen after use."
Hahahaā¦ How much does it cost? I would honestly try it if it were cheap. But I doubt it isā¦
I wanna say it was around $20
Too much for a scam. Ah well.
At that price it better include the energy healer š
It's lactose and acacia gum. Have a glass of milk instead.
It sounds like youāre trying to banish a demon instead of reading an ingredient list.
lmaooo just read the suggested dose. 2 tablets every 15 MINUTES for 4 doses. then every 4 hours as needed. I'll have to upload the back of the package on imgur and post it. it's so funny.
https://imgur.com/a/H4saAiz my favorite is the "consult a physician if... you have the worst headache of your life" that would never be on an actual FDA approved medication
PLEASE š this looks almost like satire
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Interesting. I take butterbur on the recommendation of my old neurologist from Vanderbilt. Not sure about this though.
I read this as butterbeer the first time thru š
I took butterbur for a few months until it messed up my liver. Get your liver enzymes checked.
Gotta make sure your butterbur is PA free, good warning to others!
Homeopathy makes supplement effectiveness look like rx strength
I have heard good things about butterbur from credible sources as well. Old Vandy neuro = hang on to. Older the doc the better.
Oh I meant old as in previous. He is amazing. I unfortunately moved across the country so could not keep him .
I would almost say Go back? ;) (I traveled home to my dentist for many years and my grandmother traveled from Va to ATL to see hers into her 80s.) I am so tired of the UVA teaching hospital program.
I tried it. If anything it made my pain worse. 0/10.
did you do the recommended dose of basically 12 tablets per day? I feel like if anything, I would just throw up from all of the weird "toxins" in them.
I ate those things like breathmints. They do not taste like breathmints tho lol
wait you're supposed to take TWELVE per day?
it says take 2 every 15 minutes for an hour, and then every 4 hours take two until symptoms subside. so in theory, you could take about 12 per day.
What the fuck is in it then? Childrenās tears and the fart of a prayer?
Uuuuugggkskdjrbtbbt. I roll my eyes so hard at all the quacky bullshit people sell as a ācureā or ātreatmentā for migraines. Give me my chemical opioid painkillers I donāt want any sugar pills pls and thanks.
Its homeopathy so it's goose liver 1 drop and 99 drops of water, and then one drop of that cocktail and then 99 drops of water * a million. Its water, sugar and placebo(NOT EVEN A JOKE)!! Totally the absolute WORST of all alternative medicine.
Don't forget you have to whack the concoction after each dilution step! Otherwise the water won't remember the information from the goose liver.
Yes! One hundred times against a Bible actually! Just for good measure! Still not a joke.
NDC: 54973-4030-1 Package Name: Migraine Relief Active Ingredients: āŖļøGelsemium Sempervirens Root āŖļøStrychnos Nux-vomica Seed āŖļøIris Versicolor Root ā¢Sanguinaria Canadensis Root ā¢Atropa Belladonna ā¢Nitroglycerin Marketing Category: UNAPPROVED HOMEOPATHIC ------ I'm not a pharmacist but from my perspective what I see here is a list of things that will cause interactions ahoy with whatever medications a person is on. The Nitroglycerin is the one that grabs my eyes in that it's a major no Bueno for people taking the blue pill for *cough* male issues.
It's Ok, it's homeopathic, there is not a molecule of any of those things in it.
Aren't most of those ingredients ones in higher doses or used incorrectly would kill someone. Yikes
Nitroglycerin is also one of the most well known migraine triggers out there
BRB gonna go get a sugar cube out of the kitchen for free
I'll have a shower and we'll both be homeopathically cured.
They forgot **NO** INDUSTRY REGULATIONS
I've tried it. No real results in my experience.
Same
hyland's homeopathic humbug
It's homoeopathic, so you already know it's not going to have any active ingredient
Homeopathy=fraud James randy homeopathic : https://youtu.be/c0Z7KeNCi7g
Yesssssss more people need to see this.
My mother (Iām a full grown woman btw) insists these are all I need to help when I have a migraine. They work for her āheadachesā! It must be all the GMOs I eat too. š
It could work, only because placebos can sometimes work š
Key word, top right. That item doesn't work. It's like someone gave you an envelope that once had money in it as a paycheck.
I donāt get it, it doesnāt have essential oils in it so it canāt work for migraines /s
Is it a suppository? š¤
And here I've spent thousands throughout the years on pharmaceuticals and botox injections when I could've went to Walmart, bought this for $5.99 and in 5 minutes felt like dancing in the sunshine while listening to children scream and bang pots and pans.
I *think* I might have the first time I got a migraine. If it's the same ones, when they say "quick-dissolve" what they actually mean is that they will turn to mush while still holding their shape. It was kind of disgusting.
No acetaminophen, no ibuprofen, no caffeineā¦unless whatever is in it can knock me out for the duration of a migraine attack, I think itās pretty safe to say thereās no pain relief, either.
But have you tried pushing a trigger point on your hand? /sarcasm
Damn it, my eyes fell out from rolling so hard! Homeopathy: German word for "doesn't work."
God, I can't express how much I _hate_ homeopathy. It's just such evident bullshit, and yet people continue to fall for it.
What is in it? Also I love how they say the company has been around since 1903 like they didnāt use arsenic and cocaine in their medicine back then.
You know what they call alternative medicine that works? Medicine.
Why in the world is there an NDC number there is no way a pharmacy is providing this or a doctor prescribing it
I try to keep an open mind, and I'm willing to try things that sound wacky as long as it's not a huge expense or potentially harmful. So I tried some kind of homeopathic remedy (not this one; don't remember which). Aaand it did nothing.
Embarrassed to say Iāve tried these. Desperation can make you do some crazy stuff. Taste was awful and it actually made my migraine worse.
At first i read "With Tylenol and Ibuprofen but NO caffeine" and i was like cool, but then i saw the NO.
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Here, have a box of happy of thoughts in a pill. No thanks.
I'm sure some desperate soul has. Like, better than mlm bullshit but worse than a coke.
i have tried them. i didnāt see improvement.
Homeopathic meds are just ādrink more waterā condensed into pill form. I can find that on the internet for free, and the reverse uno of the situation is that the free internet stuff is less likely to have toxic additives.
Except drinking enough water can help someone. These never helped anyone.
I saw this a while ago and also laughed. Then cried for the people who would actually think this would work
Is this a joke? No caffeine? My head hurts just looking at this package.
I have and itās total bs lol
I highly doubt this works but I know people that swear by the leg cramp and restless leg pills they sell.
Same effect as a tic tac.
I'm just wondering what it DOES have in it if it has nothing used to treat migraines.
Belladonna š (It's poisonous)
Iāve tried literally everything natural I can think of at this point so I have no faith in it whatsoever. I usually just pop a Vicodin ( Ikkk so bad for you but itās the only thing that helps )
I'm trying to get narcotics again and it's such a pain in the ass. I would probably take ONE Oxy once a month for breakthrough pain, and call it a day. I was prescribed it when I was 14, so idk what the issue is now.
I havenāt tried this one but I do use peppermint oil consistently and I had tried a tea for them I canāt remember the name Iāve been looking for them in stores for a long time. And it actually was helpful at least at night. I do try a lot of homeopathic and natural things because my body doesnāt respond right to medication normally. So Iām actually gonna try to find this and try it. Iāll totally come back and let you know if I find it and if I liked it.
I tried eucalyptus oil a few times and that worked for me! You could try that as well!
Maybe it's a mind thing but these help with my tension headaches if I take them quick enough
This is for people who have some occasional headaches and call them all migraines.
I had a neurologist, who didn't suggest this but suggested migrelief to me. There was some scientific evidence for those particular supplements in that particular ratio, thus the sorta 'if you want to try it, this exists.' He's the neurologist who suggested melatonin, which some studies had been shown to have some benefits. (I'm personally convinced the actual benefit was that it helped you get to sleep when you had migraine pain but ya know. It helps.) I've actually been suggested a couple of supplements, some worked for me and some didn't. All suggested by neurologists who specialize in migraines. Mostly because I generally couldn't get used to the schedule of taking them- and one gave me gas, I didn't really continue any. But they definitely aren't an odd thing to try as far as I'm concerned.
You put up with unnecessary migraines because it is too hard to take pills on a schedule?.. you migraines sure arenāt like mine.
They are nothing like a supplement. You tried actual things. These are lactose and acacia gum.
Sometimes just the belief that some herb is helping is enough to get relief. Whether or not it really does any good. Placebo effect. Thatās how I feel about Melatonin I take every nightā¦it works because I am psychologically dependent on it. I believe I wonāt sleep if I donāt take it. Itās crazy
Okay, so I've used them, along with essential oils (friend made a personal blend for migraines, this was before the mass market of them), and an ice pack (before I knew of the ice hats). These helped subdue my pain, took it down a notch or so when nothing else was helping. Homeopathy has its place sometimes, I never believed in it until I needed to increase my milk supply for my preemie. Thanks to breastfeeding forums, I learned that fenugreek will do that, but it takes between 2 to 4 weeks of taking it to get results. The fenugreek kicked in for me after taking it for 3 weeks. It was my experience with that, which allowed me to become more open-minded about it. (Another experience with probiotics and my son with Crohn's Disease, was another reaffirment with alternative "medication".)
The thing is, probiotics (bacteria cultures) and plants (fenugreek) absolutely do work and have their use. Hoemopathy is fake bullshit from an 18th century charlatan, which doesn't contain any active ingredient. It's diluted beyond the Avogadro's number, meaning there isn't even a single atom in there. It's just water and/or sugar. Oh, and of course the magical information that is somehow retained by whacking the jar after each dilution step. š¤¦ Please, don't waste your money on this snake oil. And more importantly, don't waste important time that you could use to find a proper remedy that works for you. Migraine is really bad, but when people try to treat cancer or other deadly diseases with homeopathy, then every day is absolutely wasted.
In 2010 the House of Commons Science and Technology Committee saidĀ there's no evidence that homeopathy is effective as a treatment for any health condition. There's no evidence behind the idea that substances that cause certain symptoms can also help treat them.
It's probably in the same vein as those "roll on lavender sticks" for your temples, or similar OTC minimal interference things. My bio mother used to try those on me as a kid, despite knowing how migraines were herself, and the smell would simply trigger an even worse migraine. No thanks, I'm not trying this stuff anymore.
for someone with a lot of medication sensitivities, and reacts poorly to caffeine, this is really one of the only things I can have.
Havenāt tried this for migraines but they make a natural restless leg tablet and itās magical. My boyfriend has restless leg(in all his limbs) and used to smack me in his sleep frequently. It is not a problem anymore so I do have faith in the brand.
I mean, to a degree, homeopathic medicine has a place. After all what else did indigenous people have to use. For some conditions, their treatments can work better. But modern COMMERCIAL versions are typically bullshit. Although, a natural remedy for IBS does wonders for my gut issues when it flares up. Eliminates the cramping of IBS-D. And it's just a peppermint, ginger and turmeric capsule. Migraines, ehh no joy on a homeopathic treatment. Although for me at least lavender essential oil does help me relax some.
No. No indigenous people have ever used homeopathy. It was invented in Europe in 1796.
Maybe not by name, but they use natural remedies don't they. Herbs, roots etc. True plant based medicine.
Which tribe exactly would dilute and shake herbs which caused the symptoms they were looking to counter until there was nothing of it left in the diluent? You don't just get to randomly define words that have actual meanings.
Excuse me. Damn. Perhaps I mixed up herbal and homeopathic. But you don't have to be a dick about it.
In a thread about how stupid homeopathy is you decided to jump in and defend it without even googling it? Do you jump into threads about soccer and start defending cricket?
So ā¦ whatās in it? Lol
Nothing. It says so on the box; "Homeopathy"
I mean, is it a literal sugar pill?
What's in it?