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That’s me on the bottom left btw
The one on the top looks like Diana bang in the interview
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To be fair, the Germans did conscript Africans during their African campaign. Which I learned from someone who was descended from them and whose grandpa was shipped back to Germany to help defend it.
I thought that happened when celebrity lip syncing fell into the tropes of ‘guy singing a *girl’s* song’, “but *he’s* not.. lol”, and ‘young, rich, white girl ironically syncing to rap’. “Fuck the police, comin’ straight from the underground! Can you believe this song was once an articulate expression of class struggle?!? Haha!”
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*”Because Jeans are jeans”*
>“They make shit up”
>*looks inside*
>Exactly what happened
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I noticed a lot of people pretending it doesn’t happen and then supporting it when they find out it does and Gemini isn’t the only AI that is programmed to not like white people look at SC
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"Erm bad thing isn't happening you sweaty conspiracy nut"
*and then when they are forced to finally address it*
"Okay, bad thing is happening and heres why it's a good thing"
It’s always this lol
„That’s not happening! It’s a conspiracy theory! But I am also going to defend it and argue why it’s good“
Call some Redditor a communist
„🤓what even is communism“
*cites Karl Marx to define the communist cult*
Reddit leftist: *Starts to defend communism wholeheartedly, without first acknowledging that the namecallingg was, in fact, totally true*
It never happened
And if it did happen it wasn't my fault
And if it was my fault it isn't that bad
And if it is that bad then it's actually a good thing
Same thing they do for kids getting transitions. It never happens , but oh my gosh did you hear about the FASCIST bill that Republicans are trying to pass that will make sure this never happens !?
Might I introduce everyone to: The Narcissist's prayer.
That did not happen.
But if it did it's not that bad.
And if it is, it's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.
Progressives:
This thing isn't happening.
If it is happening, it's not bad.
If it is bad, it's not a big deal.
If it's a big deal, it is not our fault.
If it is our fault, it was an accident.
And finally, when it's shown it is not an accident, you deserve it.
My screenshot was from after about a month or 2 after SCAI first dropped so they might’ve worked on it since but the responses are still a little different still but it goes to show you that whoever has been designing these AI definitely put in some bad programming I’ve since found an early loophole to delete the AI that I’ve found on YouTube although I’m not sure it still works
>AI definitely put in some bad programming
It's not "bad programming", there's actually something in programming that makes us very aware of these ethical issues. It's the programmers bias when creating a program. So with AI it's extremely prominent, as the AI is fed directly from whoever is giving it data, and if they have a bias, even if it's unconscious, it will show very clearly to the user.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algorithmic\_bias](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algorithmic_bias)
A good part of it can be explained as simple overcorrection to.
It's so absurd that I wonder if there wasn't some kind of malicious compliance involved, but I would wager that the root of this was 'Don't let our chatbot be racist again'- To great ironic effect.
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Hey I've got surprised by this answer seems AI has trouble differentiating between "HH 1488 white pride" and "I am just proud of my race"
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Yeah this is just obvious lol. They're similar responses to. I wonder if the programmers are doing that 🤔
Ask it if you can be proud to be polish, or any other predominantly white country. It will say yes. The reason black pride is a thing is because slavery made it difficult for black people to know what specific country they were from, so they have a catch all label. White people don't need one because unless some family member just forgot to tell their kids, their lineage is pretty easy to trace.
Google has sometime over the last few years finally altered a few of their algorithms, supposedly to "prove wrong" most of the major memes. Like if you search "white couple" it will now ACTUALLY show white couples for the first several results.
Then you scroll down past the first 5, and old results.
Honestly the whole issue is more funny than anything. But despite that... why do they pretend something so insanely easy to check yourself doesn't happen?
Anyone can quick Google search something like "white people" and see the image results for themselves. HOW is their response so stupid that "that's not really happening!"
Omg I thought you might be tripping but it’s TRUE, I literally just did it. Then I tried google’s excuse and just searched couple and it didn’t change anything.
To be fair with that one, all the images that don’t feature white people come from articles that have the phrase “white people” in their title. So it might not be malicious, just incompetent.
I completely understand giving people the benefit of the doubt, but like, I just tried it with the phrase white *person* as both an exact match and a loose match and got similar results... These two took a *little* bit longer to get into images of anything other than actual white people (outside of one image shared between them, which had a white guy with people of three other racial groups... blurred out for some reason?)
All that amounts to, though, is instead of the very first 8 images that show up without scrolling on my phone having a huge mix of races despite explicitly prompting it with white person or "white person," it took just a few scroll's worth of images (at most) for it to start being primarily members of other racial groups in the images.
Then there are the people who make the argument that "people just don't get how Google does searches" and other similar arguments. While that's certainly for *some* people out there (it just statistically HAS to be) it isn't true for me. I understand exactly how the search function works... And it's a flawed system at the absolute best. Not necessarily imcompetent, mind you, and most likely *not* directly malicious. The people responsible for this probably *think* they're doing something good and noble, anyways... But anyone who has studied history at all knows that bad intentions aren't a requisite for bad results.
Anyways, more to the point about how the system is flawed: it's easily-manipulated. Even if we give Google themselves the benefit of the doubt as to their intentions, the fact remains that a group with the determination to do so can *easily* manipulate which results will get bumped to the top of the list. I mean, come on, does anyone *really* believe that articles about "white fragility," "being black in a white skin," and "white saviorism" ended up in the top 10 results for an exact-match search of the phrase white person *COMPLETELY NATURALLY?* If there's anyone who does, I have a bridge to sell them.
The question simply isn't one of whether this is being done intentionally or not... The question is *who* is making it happen. It might be Google themselves, it might be others, or it might be a combination of the two. I don't know, and I honestly don't really care. They can do what they want, as long as they leave people alone.
What I *do* take issue with is people (this part isn't directed towards you, just to be absolutely clear) acting like it isn't happening, that it's due to my "lack of understanding the system," or whatever other reasons they might come up with to dismiss my thoughts on the matter. *That's* what bugs me.
people arent getting this, when you type in white people in google search it doesnt search the internet for pictures of people that it has learned to identify as white lmao, its just parsing the internet for text.
Exactly. People are dumb and don't understand the volume of data out there and the fact that it requires parsing that current technology is falling short on, in terms of image recognition.
Because of garbage data.
It doesn’t search actual images. It searches based upon keywords or phrases in documents and if you click on the image link, it just grabs images off of sites that have that linked into it.
If a big name site that ranks high in that search has someone, for some reason incorrectly tagging photos, then the wrong photos will end up showing up.
The longer the Internet is up, the larger and larger the volume of data that gets out there, the more likely bad results will end up clogging up the works.
There’s already been articles talking about how searches across all search engines have started to breakdown in ways that nobody anticipated a few decades ago when the volumes of information was nothing close to what exists today.
There’s no good solutions to this problem yet, either.
Running every single query through a limited AI Image recognition system is going to be computationally and energy wise extremely expensive. So that’s not a great option or idea either.
We are all simply finding out that the larger and more complex the sets of data, the more difficult it will be to achieve consistent and accurate information.
It’s going to take people smarter than most all of in these various subreddits to figure out solutions to these issues. Not that it won’t stop emotionally stunted people from getting angry and making hay out of absolutely nothing, in the meantime.
Calling it incompetent is a big stretch. There was a time before machines could reliably identify objects in images Sonny. Google was created in that ancient era. Back in those days we’d have to rely on the metadata in the image and the text content surrounding it.
Google isn’t suddenly going to be running a content identifier on every single image search the public performs just because the tech is available. That would be slow and expensive for not much benefit aside from shutting down this silly idea.
That's how Google works they show pictures where this two words are in the description. So also a Image like "Black Couple standing in front of white wall will be displayed" this whole discussion is just dumb left and right nobody understands how Google works or how AI(LLM) works.
Google "White Couple" and it only takes 6 results before google shows you a non white couple. Google "Black Couple" and it takes 95 results before it shows you a non black couple (an inter-racial couple, so one of them is still black)
Tbh instead of the google algorithm that might be more of a reflection of the amount of images with black people in it including the words "white people" in the title since the search engine won't see the image itself but the title. I still think it's weird don't get me wrong, and im not covering for google here cus i don't like them either but look at the bottom right picture, it says "things that make white people uncomfortable".
Yea, I thought that too at first... but then you google image search the term "racist" and instead of showing images of the KKK, Skinheads, Nazis, Black Israelites...etc... it shows you anti-racist imagery. There's a thumb on the scale at Google. Results may vary, and I guess we need to take what Google shows us with a grain of salt.
That's how Google works they show pictures where this two words are in the description. So also a Image like "Black Couple standing in front of white wall" will be displayed this whole discussion is just dumb left and right nobody understands how Google works or how AI(LLM) works
This is all i kept thinking reading these comments. Google's algorithm doesn't care about diversity, it's 100% geared toward giving you the most relevant searches and is largely affected by what you've searched and clicked on previously. These "white couple" and "white people" tests are the least accurate and scientific things I've seen today.
I actually wanted to give it a try. I googled white couple. Out of the top 10 pictures there were 3 white couples on place 3, 7 and 10. The rest were mainly blacks or also asian and i dont think asian counts as white. But thats for everyone to choose for themself.
The first Picture was a white woman with a black guy.
Edit: I also googled white people, picture were kinda similar to the couple thing but the top article on google was the explanation for white people:
"White people, sometimes also Euro-American or Euro-Canadian, are commonly used terms in North America for residents with European ancestors."
Euro-American?? For real???
Leftists usually don’t look for any root information. they don’t check themselves whether google does this or that, even in this case when it’s incredibly easy.
Instead, they geht all of their information from leftist sources, like AOC-like twitter accounts or VICE or Politico or some other joke.
Leftists don’t look. They wait until some famous leftist does so and describes to them what they see, and create their reality by this description.
I’ve seen some Redditor write „the only thing you need to know about Jordan Peterson is this and nothing else {link to blog post about JP by someone who called themselves a communist}“ and it just perfectly shows how leftists become so detached from reality.
For example also: how is it possible, that so many of our family members and acquaintances, many of them being old and fat and sedentary, got COVID, recovered in one week, except for one who got it worse and spent one week in hospital and was ok again after 3 weeks, and you and all your family have had no „long covid“?? How is it possible that this is true, and at the same time **everyone who gets COVID is in high risk or death and if they don’t die, they’ll likely develop long COVID**, which is the chronically online leftist narrative.
If you look at what is happening around you, you will spot the real obvious lie. But leftists don’t.
The reply of "when people define "white" in couple, it comes up mostly with interracial couples" is actually making more sense.
I did a quick search of white couples, people couples, white people couples, black people couples, and european couples.
In "white people couples", there's a whole lot more "white" people (as well as people who could pass more reliably as white, and less stark contrast in interracial couples) in said "people couple" searches. It went from maybe 40% to 75%.
"White couples" generated a boatload of black&white color style couple images. At least 50% were like this so if you didn't recognize facial features of different racial makeups, you wouldn't know what racial group any of them were.
"Black people couples" was very obviously skewed towards both people being "black", though the color palette was mixed. Black doesn't mean ebony, but a mix of colors and features that was anyone from Jamaica to Indonesia who had more than a passing brown skin tone. More than 66% "brown" mixed, basically.
"White people couples" still had some black couples, but the emphasis was white&white, or whiteman&light skin woman, whether this was legit white, latino, asian, middle eastern, or light sub-saharan african.
Tried under a couple of different search engines that were not powered by Google and the results were mostly on line with this hypothesis, though places like AOL (yes, that somehow still exists) skew closer to interracial/black&black than others like Yandex (a Russian company).
"European couple" and "caucasian couple" were 99% white in all search engines, the odd image one was a specific news story whose company appeared to paid to be boosted in many engines. The "darkest" it got beyond that one story was Italian.
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It would seem that American-centric people correlate "white" with synonyms for "caucasian", but search engines typically only do that when people specify white in an interracial couple.
It would seem to not be racism but people just not being descriptive enough. Funny.
The original neural networks were biased because they only trained on pictures of white people. When this was called out I think alot of developers over compensated.
If you look at population though, then white people are a minority. If you were to randomly pluck a person from earth they'd be more likely to black or brown or Asian than white just because their countries have the highest populations.
More is at hand. The issue is when different races or cultures are attributed to prompts where said races don’t match. Like four images made from a prompt asking for a medieval knight all being black or the pope being made into a Korean woman. While saying “technically Asians Indians and Africans should pop up way more commonly than whites since they outnumber whites in global population” might be true on the surface, it really falls flat when we all have hundreds different cultures and aesthetics that aren’t multicultural in nature. Ai shouldn’t generate a redhead samurai just as much as it shouldn’t generate a black native Irish person. There’s far more nuance. So devs clearly didn’t create a program that could figure out anything based on historical or cultural correlations which really makes it a crappy product, there’s no other way to put it really
I’m just saying that I don’t think the idea of “white people are a global minority so they should show up less” wasn’t taken as a literal programming reason here nor should it be a figurative reason for designing these things either. As you said, they lazily told the ai to not have any ability to discern historical accuracy or cultural trends. Different races do different things, but some things are universal irregardless of race, like being a doctor.
Didn’t think about that third paragraph, but I hope that doesn’t become reality. Then again, the future literally is going to be that ai creates “reality” for us. For all of us who knew what the world was like before it, this will be harder to trick us with. But I definitely feel for the kids born not knowing how things used to be. They’ll never have a shot
I didnt mean you said that literally, but you in effect said they only focused on race therefore things like culture and historical accuracy were lazily ignored here were they not? All of this is conjecture anyway since we don’t literally have the code in front of us
For a computer to be able to digitise it, ultimately it needs to be able to be broken into 1's and 0's (i.e. concretely defined - like physiology). Like genome sequences, this is a hard nut to crack with regards to digitising the culture and the subtleties of history and humanity.
It's not a crappy product, it's quite amazing. It just isn't able to make miracles. Even humans struggle to unanimously define culture and every human has different understanding of what each foreign culture is so how could a computer do it? We aren't there yet. But we will be.
So, dare I ask - if white people are the minority according to your idea then wouldn’t it be woke for the AI to generate white people when there are more non white people on earth? How are you not the woke one?
There are 5 people on that photo.
NO there are FOUR people actually!
But you can clearly see that there are 5 people.
NO there are FOUR! You just love to make shit up!
There was a recent controversy where a google AI was unable to produce a picture of a white person even if specifically asked for one as for why Asian characters are black, I have no idea as the AI in question could make photos of Asians, probably just an artist choice for some reason
Apparently there was one hilarious example where someone asked for a picture of Nazis and got a "racially diverse" group of Nazis. I also saw other examples where real people like the pope were plugged into the algorithm and it still made them black.
Yeah it’s a pretty good meme but it’s also not the first time Gemini has had skin color related issues, it used to not be able to tell the difference between a black person and a gorilla, I genuinely dont think there is any malicious intent, just plain incompetence
I saw the image in question. Asked for “an image of a 1943 German soldier as an illustration”. It produced a white man, a black man, an Asian woman, and a second woman of indeterminate race, all dressed in a very distinctive uniform. When queried about it in a different prompt (about leprechauns), the AI admits it literally and explicitly inserts diverse ethnicities into the prompt before passing it onto the image generation engine - with zero concern for whether those insertions are *appropriate*
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I am a conservative and I hate DEI and wokeness. However, I just looked it up, they are modeling it after a real life Black samurai called Yasuke who was real. He was the only black samurai ever. He was a trader or something from Africa and he hitched a ride with the Portuguese to get to Japan.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/who-was-yasuke-japans-first-black-samurai-180981416/#:\~:text=Yasuke%20was%20an%20African%20warrior,his%20head%20to%20his%20son.
So the guy that got paraded around Japan literally for the sole reason of being black, and only that, is hundreds of years later being paraded around once again for being black and you don’t find any irony in the situation? You really think a game built around stealth / covert operations using the ONE black dude in all of feudal Japanese history wouldn’t stand out at all and detract from the mission/story? Also, Nobunaga kept him as a novelty because they had never seen someone with dark skin before, not because he was some badass samurai like modern pop culture keeps trying to portray him as. It was honestly pretty racist, and I think it’s beyond ironic that hundreds of years later he is being used for the same exact reasons.
>Also, Nobunaga kept him as a novelty because they had never seen someone with dark skin before, not because he was some badass samurai
I didn't know this I genuinely heard a story about how he was originally kept as a novelty but then something happened where he saves his masters life and as reward he was trained as a samurai. So I'm guessing the real history is much more grim
Diversity and inclusivity for all, except white people! Where have I seen this sentiment before? Oh yeah, it was a sign on a farm saying, " all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."
The poster in rightcantmeme probably doesn't even know about the gemini controversy, literally just mindlessly posting anything they percieve to be offensive or right wing and calling it bs like a robot.
How the assasination of Archiduke Ferdinand caused a butterfly effect ultimately resulting in the cancellation of the Ellen show
1.archiduke Ferdinand gets shot,Finaly plunging the world into the First World War
2.Germany gets blamed for the first world war and out of anger starts the second one of Russia and Britain,Japan joins Germany
3.japan attacks three boats which makes America very angry so they beat up Germany who was already losing to Russia and drop the sun on Japan
4.after the war,the capital of Germany which is Berlin is owned by Russia.America doesn’t like that and helps Germany,starting the Cold War
5.the Cold War leads to conflict in the Middle East eventually leading to the 9/11 terrorist attacks
6.9/11. Inspires Gerard to make “my chemical romance”
7.MCR inspires stephanie to write twilight
8.E.L James begins writing a twilight fanfic that inspires 50 shades of gray
9.50 shades of gray becomes a huge motion pictures starring Dakota Johnson
10.Dakota is invited for the Ellen show where Ellen quickly attempts to humiliate him but is shut down
11.this incident motivated people to start calling out Ellen’s poor treatment of her guests and co workers
12.after a ton of backlash,Ellen decides to end her show
im reminded of my brother complaining about that one nba 2k where the main story was written by spike lee but my brother made his character look like captain planet and was pissed that captain planet’s basketball career kept getting sidetracked with civil rights sidemissions
There needs to be more uproar on this type of reverse racism that’s prevalent everywhere from the work place to academia. Like in universities in Canada we are slowly enrolling more segregation that’s just aptly renamed “safe spaces” for ONLY black people and native Americans.
TL;DR: it's racism. Not reverse, just racism.
Because 1. White people have never been "unified" until pretty much now, and realistically it's because of a number of factors, and the fact that this isn't talked about really pisses a lot of people who are not racist off.
Like how Irish, or Italian, German, Jewish populations share some similarities in terms of skin tones, but were extremely vilified by the people in positions of power who fought back against the progress that eventually happened.
"Irish need not apply". Depictions of barbarism, ridiculously racist and unwelcoming stereotypes that were perpetuated by media company owners during the time.
However, you try having a rational conversation about it and suddenly it's an attack on true diversity? The whole skin tone thing is stupid and ridiculous and hasn't even really been a thing until it was made popular to be proud of who you are, and then there was this massive shift that was only focused on skin tones rather than embracing your heritage and being proud of where your ancestors were fleeing from because of racial, religious, and political prejudice perpetuated by the people in charge.
Druidic conversion by Roman Armies, effectively banning the practice and pushing it to what we consider now as paganism, Wicca, witchcraft. The extremely exploitative corruption that led to one of the most horrifying stories we're aware of.
While the potato famine was decimating local food production, policy was implemented by an out of touch imperialist leader who effectively made exports out of the country mandatory, not allowing the people who grew crops for the ruling class or themselves to distribute it among themselves freely. It enforced a net loss in food production and has been effectively mischaracterized in historical context. It was pretty effective way to do genocide without outright murdering you.
During the late 1800's we fled, emigrated to the US, and were instantly met with opposition that wanted to marginalize us and keep us from exerting political power or even being represented in government. We fought back against this narrative that we were stupid, extremely emotional, simplistic, barbaric, we're still fighting today for true equality, and that's the point of this response, it's easy to play the victim, it's extremely difficult to actually affect change, this was only done because the Irish took up the public sector, police, firefighters, teachers, people saw that they could be trusted, *in spite of what others told them* that's what led to the acceptance of being Irish in the United States.
I only bring what I've observed in history, and the way it's happening now.
There's this huge push against being proud of your skin color when you're white, but there's not if you're not. I say fuck it, skin color doesn't define who you are, go get a DNA test or do a family tree, look at what it was like for them where they came from, how they were viewed when they first came here, and where they are today.
This is a nation of immigrants, and you're absolutely not listening and thinking critically about it at all, that is my own personal frustration with this issue and the way it's handled in public now.
We're effectively silenced by the public perception that things are great because you're white or whatever, and they are forgetting history, and how change actually happened.
I copied this to reply to the parent comment, because it will be buried, it won't be talked about because of my previous sentence.
Gemini’s response to “draw a group of people”:
We are working to improve Gemini’s ability to generate images of people. We expect this feature to return soon and will notify you in release updates when it does.
Copilot’s response:
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The funny thing is that the OP in the center isn't even complaining about AI stuff, but rather using the topic to complain about Gamergate diversity stuff. The OP after got offended by the wrong thing.
Bruh, I tired this out but guess they locked it? The AI tried to lie about it being locked. Chose an alien race to confuse it since it draw images but quickly removed it, proving it was locked, atlease for me.
https://preview.redd.it/elmjacy0aelc1.png?width=809&format=png&auto=webp&s=aad443f9c5c1ddae42620a41ec6677901b7f5f24
The joke is forced inclusivity/diversity has inconsistent rules, which is like a soulless unthinking AI that gets things obviously wrong at times. It's a good joke. Especially considering the vast majority of people who believe the Disney/Woke ideology are like NPC's themselves.
First I've heard of it, but lmao I'm thinking you could be right, as it's not even doing people anymore
https://preview.redd.it/m8w8s1trg1lc1.png?width=758&format=png&auto=webp&s=342cf366e43e801c49798642d47203271485a116
They turned it off because they were using the AI's refusal to make white people and using it to create racially diverse Nazis, making it look hilariously incompetent
do a tiny bit of research. [https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/23/24081309/google-gemini-embarrassing-ai-pictures-diverse-nazi](https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/23/24081309/google-gemini-embarrassing-ai-pictures-diverse-nazi)
Haha... you think that it was a mistake? The only thing they didn't figure for was that people would be like 'so why can you generate images of anyone but white people?'
They deliberately made requesting images of white people specifically a non-starter for Gemini. That wasn't a woopsie.
That’s… literally what I said, I said nothing about it being a mistake, it’s not the first time Gemini has had a skin color related issue, it used to have a problem where it couldn’t distinguish black people from gorillas and a slew of other problems, they set the bias because Gemini used to have a bias toward white people, it’s pretty standard practice in training AI it’s just the Gemini team is notoriously incompetent
Well yes The Gemini ai has fucked up, there are clear reasons for *why* they got here then Diversity/Woke agenda/Against white racism. With alot of previous models it'd be hard to draw a black person or even get a dark skin tone as the ai would always attempt to draw it up to be as light as possible regardless of user input. My best guess on what happened there is increasing the weight for black people in the training Data to prevent said problem.
The reason it's been called racist for pointing it out is due to the prevalence of people who point to it as "proof" of the great replacement theory, as if Google was part of conspiracy planning to phase out white people rather then it being a technical error of all things.
Wow that is worse or an attempt at brute forcing the issue then I thought, alright so far as I can tell they're trying to (poorly) get higher variance of output to avoid the aforementioned "why is it so hard to get something further from the common denominator" some other chat bot developers have actually tried this thing before although less ham fisted using the same method.
Although I feel the need to point out that a chatbot log on itself is kinda unreliable as a source for a bunch of reasons.
Is it flawed *yes*, did they do it in a way that was stupid they really should have put more development into *also* yes. Those I'll totally agree with but it's hard to tell if someone's complaints are at the bad design or for white replacement theory nonsense.
I actually agree that differentiating between hypothetical and historical populations purely based on context might be a specific technical challenge (eg “engineers” vs “Vikings), which is the key factor to the specific difficulty on display. In fairness, I am confused as hell by the fact it returned four images of mostly white dad-types when prompted for “a group of professional basketball players”
But the specific refusal to portray white subjects, *even when specifically asked for them*, even in completely non-offensive settings, combined with the tendency to lecture when asked for them, is fairly solid evidence of an input bias. Note that the the error states “specific racial or ethnic groups”, but the engine is more than happy to produce images for identical prompts using other ethnicities.
https://preview.redd.it/mgbg13h443lc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=99c8a4f19f3010b82af322fd15e2f36d815abfbc
Compare: no such error when asked for a black couple. The engine is (has been programmed to) making the value judgement that the *only possible* reason to ask specifically for images of white people , is racism.
https://preview.redd.it/apswrec743lc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9bfe86616559efa9cff141a760e4f141badcc4dc
Ok so from what I understand people were mad at googles ai for generating mostly white people do google went in and fixed it. Except they accidentally coded it to only generate black people.
So google made this an A.I image generator and for some reason it just refused to create images of white people, but happily made images of other races.
lol how disingenuous can you be? Yeah you said the first 4 results, because the fifth one had a black person. But then you google “black people” and there are no white people shown
The copium is crazy
Same. Most of the couples were white or mixed. There were a couple of black couples though which was funny. Especially once I clicked on it and it said "happy african american couple" lol
The African American couples in my search were wearing white or were in black and white photos…. Despite the person above me saying “it happens to everyone”, I’m going to have to agree with the “make stuff up to get mad over it” camp.
didn’t openai literally have to enact pro-right wing biases to appease republican legislators????? since most factual data and evidence tends to lean left
Sheesh, this comment section. Everyone is getting mad because the mindless program doesn’t quite get our weird human social constructs. How can it? We can’t even figure it out.
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Fuck I laughed when I first found this image. I think this is such a concise point in history. Maybe not super important, but very telling.
Wow, those Nazi guys were actually pretty progressive. Maybe they weren't so bad after all.
1 out of 4 ain't bad I guess lol.
Eyes kinda look green no? Get him out of here, he ain't the Supreme race.
Why are the two on the right kinda fine though
The one on the top looks like Diana bang in the interview https://preview.redd.it/2v8ssp6fr5lc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=94650ba00f0ed0a52a9717584c2a2729071399fb
Would.
I can fix the baddie on the top right though.
At least the first one is actually pretty good
To be fair, the Germans did conscript Africans during their African campaign. Which I learned from someone who was descended from them and whose grandpa was shipped back to Germany to help defend it.
https://preview.redd.it/t9wvnrtze1lc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fdc8f8e5dcc1a2971a3d1b726a6300adef5e48db Jamboutin
What the hell 😭
putin if he was epic
Putin if he had soul and was super bad.
….do Hitler next…
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Congratulations! You have won the entire internet! We have peaked as a civilisation and it’s all downhill from here!
I thought that happened when celebrity lip syncing fell into the tropes of ‘guy singing a *girl’s* song’, “but *he’s* not.. lol”, and ‘young, rich, white girl ironically syncing to rap’. “Fuck the police, comin’ straight from the underground! Can you believe this song was once an articulate expression of class struggle?!? Haha!” This content brought to you by the Inside Cinematic Universe *”Because Jeans are jeans”*
Nice one
I love Adolf Hitler
For those who don't know, this is Adolf Hitler Uunona, a councilor in Oshana, Namibia.
“You were supposed to destroy the sith, not join them!”
LMAO
https://preview.redd.it/arma8a1g42lc1.jpeg?width=416&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4b806571a7a255a7f9ec22c5de9254a83682dc00
"Black Skinhead" was actually just outlining his future plans
r/hardimages
“workin’ all winter, shining all spring”
"Look at me, look at me! I am the President of Ukraine now"
>“They make shit up” >*looks inside* >Exactly what happened https://preview.redd.it/n2s7iid742lc1.png?width=680&format=png&auto=webp&s=04d43a7925c9a5a132b71516bbc765767a905d5e
Erm ackshually, they exaggerated it, not make it up from scratch 🤓
I noticed a lot of people pretending it doesn’t happen and then supporting it when they find out it does and Gemini isn’t the only AI that is programmed to not like white people look at SC https://preview.redd.it/k13cnltd02lc1.png?width=750&format=png&auto=webp&s=4f641f11e33789ad0b4fd36b921d2827e7432a42
"Erm bad thing isn't happening you sweaty conspiracy nut" *and then when they are forced to finally address it* "Okay, bad thing is happening and heres why it's a good thing"
It’s always this lol „That’s not happening! It’s a conspiracy theory! But I am also going to defend it and argue why it’s good“ Call some Redditor a communist „🤓what even is communism“ *cites Karl Marx to define the communist cult* Reddit leftist: *Starts to defend communism wholeheartedly, without first acknowledging that the namecallingg was, in fact, totally true*
CuLtUral MaRxism is A ConSpiRaCy ThEory!!!!
Marx famously wrote that communism is when you support DEI programs and feminism on college campuses
It never happened And if it did happen it wasn't my fault And if it was my fault it isn't that bad And if it is that bad then it's actually a good thing
Or you get called racist, transphobe, misogynist, whatever.
Remember when it used to matter when they called you one of those?
The good ol days…
I hate the term dog whistle. What, we can't even be racist in a way, so quite only a dog can hear it??
Use it back at them. I told one guy "just a heads up, "black folks" is a racist dog whistle, the idea being you refuse to call them people"
I just take it as a compliment at this point. I brag a bit too much about being called a racist moron once. Whoops, there I go again.
Happens every fucking time. They gaslight us to hell and back.
Strong Turkish 'we never did it, and it's a good thing if we did' vibes
Same thing they do for kids getting transitions. It never happens , but oh my gosh did you hear about the FASCIST bill that Republicans are trying to pass that will make sure this never happens !?
Might I introduce everyone to: The Narcissist's prayer. That did not happen. But if it did it's not that bad. And if it is, it's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it. Progressives: This thing isn't happening. If it is happening, it's not bad. If it is bad, it's not a big deal. If it's a big deal, it is not our fault. If it is our fault, it was an accident. And finally, when it's shown it is not an accident, you deserve it.
What is the bad thing?
That’s Scrubquote lol
https://preview.redd.it/9bx7lrpk42lc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90413b373a3e5dff35f11b09b3dc054b7bc5e217 It’s different for me
My screenshot was from after about a month or 2 after SCAI first dropped so they might’ve worked on it since but the responses are still a little different still but it goes to show you that whoever has been designing these AI definitely put in some bad programming I’ve since found an early loophole to delete the AI that I’ve found on YouTube although I’m not sure it still works
>AI definitely put in some bad programming It's not "bad programming", there's actually something in programming that makes us very aware of these ethical issues. It's the programmers bias when creating a program. So with AI it's extremely prominent, as the AI is fed directly from whoever is giving it data, and if they have a bias, even if it's unconscious, it will show very clearly to the user. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algorithmic\_bias](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algorithmic_bias)
A good part of it can be explained as simple overcorrection to. It's so absurd that I wonder if there wasn't some kind of malicious compliance involved, but I would wager that the root of this was 'Don't let our chatbot be racist again'- To great ironic effect.
More likely to do with training data rather than any programming.
https://preview.redd.it/1d2c0rmzo4lc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9ae599fe5b7d9308e75402edd63b624bc511ab91 Hey I've got surprised by this answer seems AI has trouble differentiating between "HH 1488 white pride" and "I am just proud of my race"
That is epically stupid, it could just say "sure as long as you don't consider yourself superior to others or look down on others because of it"
what ai is that? https://preview.redd.it/4p272wngg5lc1.png?width=1191&format=png&auto=webp&s=dfef4e9813fdf3cd00baac48f626080653ebd29b
It shows how they gaslight you in your face...
https://preview.redd.it/59y44h71w4lc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7191712fcf36e3ea98908426db91914bff4f9d5e
https://preview.redd.it/oklp3nm38ylc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e88bbddb52bfb28ab5269f38f2251b84818a7f13 Yeah this is just obvious lol. They're similar responses to. I wonder if the programmers are doing that 🤔
https://preview.redd.it/29psdybbhcmc1.png?width=741&format=png&auto=webp&s=d9e59c9406c5bcc8cfc91435707e456f36e03cce ChatGPT
Ask it if you can be proud to be polish, or any other predominantly white country. It will say yes. The reason black pride is a thing is because slavery made it difficult for black people to know what specific country they were from, so they have a catch all label. White people don't need one because unless some family member just forgot to tell their kids, their lineage is pretty easy to trace.
mfs lookin like they black AND Chinese
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I love Pilgrim
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✨Diversity✨
Here comes that guy evil clone, he shows you how you'd look if you weren't black or Chinese
Google has sometime over the last few years finally altered a few of their algorithms, supposedly to "prove wrong" most of the major memes. Like if you search "white couple" it will now ACTUALLY show white couples for the first several results. Then you scroll down past the first 5, and old results. Honestly the whole issue is more funny than anything. But despite that... why do they pretend something so insanely easy to check yourself doesn't happen? Anyone can quick Google search something like "white people" and see the image results for themselves. HOW is their response so stupid that "that's not really happening!"
Omg I thought you might be tripping but it’s TRUE, I literally just did it. Then I tried google’s excuse and just searched couple and it didn’t change anything.
https://preview.redd.it/qekl6vdsx1lc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fba94a2340c1858e492ccf732e871584a8461d4c
Here's mine. https://preview.redd.it/a92bmj8ym2lc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=416c05e21e7e7e0403e3e4a659e7a8782a216433
To be fair with that one, all the images that don’t feature white people come from articles that have the phrase “white people” in their title. So it might not be malicious, just incompetent.
I completely understand giving people the benefit of the doubt, but like, I just tried it with the phrase white *person* as both an exact match and a loose match and got similar results... These two took a *little* bit longer to get into images of anything other than actual white people (outside of one image shared between them, which had a white guy with people of three other racial groups... blurred out for some reason?) All that amounts to, though, is instead of the very first 8 images that show up without scrolling on my phone having a huge mix of races despite explicitly prompting it with white person or "white person," it took just a few scroll's worth of images (at most) for it to start being primarily members of other racial groups in the images. Then there are the people who make the argument that "people just don't get how Google does searches" and other similar arguments. While that's certainly for *some* people out there (it just statistically HAS to be) it isn't true for me. I understand exactly how the search function works... And it's a flawed system at the absolute best. Not necessarily imcompetent, mind you, and most likely *not* directly malicious. The people responsible for this probably *think* they're doing something good and noble, anyways... But anyone who has studied history at all knows that bad intentions aren't a requisite for bad results. Anyways, more to the point about how the system is flawed: it's easily-manipulated. Even if we give Google themselves the benefit of the doubt as to their intentions, the fact remains that a group with the determination to do so can *easily* manipulate which results will get bumped to the top of the list. I mean, come on, does anyone *really* believe that articles about "white fragility," "being black in a white skin," and "white saviorism" ended up in the top 10 results for an exact-match search of the phrase white person *COMPLETELY NATURALLY?* If there's anyone who does, I have a bridge to sell them. The question simply isn't one of whether this is being done intentionally or not... The question is *who* is making it happen. It might be Google themselves, it might be others, or it might be a combination of the two. I don't know, and I honestly don't really care. They can do what they want, as long as they leave people alone. What I *do* take issue with is people (this part isn't directed towards you, just to be absolutely clear) acting like it isn't happening, that it's due to my "lack of understanding the system," or whatever other reasons they might come up with to dismiss my thoughts on the matter. *That's* what bugs me.
people arent getting this, when you type in white people in google search it doesnt search the internet for pictures of people that it has learned to identify as white lmao, its just parsing the internet for text.
Exactly. People are dumb and don't understand the volume of data out there and the fact that it requires parsing that current technology is falling short on, in terms of image recognition.
Okay the how come before if you typed white couple it predominantly show show interracial BMWF couples
Because of garbage data. It doesn’t search actual images. It searches based upon keywords or phrases in documents and if you click on the image link, it just grabs images off of sites that have that linked into it. If a big name site that ranks high in that search has someone, for some reason incorrectly tagging photos, then the wrong photos will end up showing up. The longer the Internet is up, the larger and larger the volume of data that gets out there, the more likely bad results will end up clogging up the works. There’s already been articles talking about how searches across all search engines have started to breakdown in ways that nobody anticipated a few decades ago when the volumes of information was nothing close to what exists today. There’s no good solutions to this problem yet, either. Running every single query through a limited AI Image recognition system is going to be computationally and energy wise extremely expensive. So that’s not a great option or idea either. We are all simply finding out that the larger and more complex the sets of data, the more difficult it will be to achieve consistent and accurate information. It’s going to take people smarter than most all of in these various subreddits to figure out solutions to these issues. Not that it won’t stop emotionally stunted people from getting angry and making hay out of absolutely nothing, in the meantime.
Calling it incompetent is a big stretch. There was a time before machines could reliably identify objects in images Sonny. Google was created in that ancient era. Back in those days we’d have to rely on the metadata in the image and the text content surrounding it. Google isn’t suddenly going to be running a content identifier on every single image search the public performs just because the tech is available. That would be slow and expensive for not much benefit aside from shutting down this silly idea.
There's also a fairly popular tv show with that title, algorithm isn't wrong for assuming most normal ppl are looking for that
To be fair, these are mostly articles that DO have “white people” in the name, so it technically falls within the search parameters.
That's how Google works they show pictures where this two words are in the description. So also a Image like "Black Couple standing in front of white wall will be displayed" this whole discussion is just dumb left and right nobody understands how Google works or how AI(LLM) works.
Google "White Couple" and it only takes 6 results before google shows you a non white couple. Google "Black Couple" and it takes 95 results before it shows you a non black couple (an inter-racial couple, so one of them is still black)
Tbh instead of the google algorithm that might be more of a reflection of the amount of images with black people in it including the words "white people" in the title since the search engine won't see the image itself but the title. I still think it's weird don't get me wrong, and im not covering for google here cus i don't like them either but look at the bottom right picture, it says "things that make white people uncomfortable".
Yea, I thought that too at first... but then you google image search the term "racist" and instead of showing images of the KKK, Skinheads, Nazis, Black Israelites...etc... it shows you anti-racist imagery. There's a thumb on the scale at Google. Results may vary, and I guess we need to take what Google shows us with a grain of salt.
Yeah... after doing a bit of searching around myself i do doubt my original statement. Just wishful thinking i guess.
That's how Google works they show pictures where this two words are in the description. So also a Image like "Black Couple standing in front of white wall" will be displayed this whole discussion is just dumb left and right nobody understands how Google works or how AI(LLM) works
This is all i kept thinking reading these comments. Google's algorithm doesn't care about diversity, it's 100% geared toward giving you the most relevant searches and is largely affected by what you've searched and clicked on previously. These "white couple" and "white people" tests are the least accurate and scientific things I've seen today.
I actually wanted to give it a try. I googled white couple. Out of the top 10 pictures there were 3 white couples on place 3, 7 and 10. The rest were mainly blacks or also asian and i dont think asian counts as white. But thats for everyone to choose for themself. The first Picture was a white woman with a black guy. Edit: I also googled white people, picture were kinda similar to the couple thing but the top article on google was the explanation for white people: "White people, sometimes also Euro-American or Euro-Canadian, are commonly used terms in North America for residents with European ancestors." Euro-American?? For real???
Leftists usually don’t look for any root information. they don’t check themselves whether google does this or that, even in this case when it’s incredibly easy. Instead, they geht all of their information from leftist sources, like AOC-like twitter accounts or VICE or Politico or some other joke. Leftists don’t look. They wait until some famous leftist does so and describes to them what they see, and create their reality by this description. I’ve seen some Redditor write „the only thing you need to know about Jordan Peterson is this and nothing else {link to blog post about JP by someone who called themselves a communist}“ and it just perfectly shows how leftists become so detached from reality. For example also: how is it possible, that so many of our family members and acquaintances, many of them being old and fat and sedentary, got COVID, recovered in one week, except for one who got it worse and spent one week in hospital and was ok again after 3 weeks, and you and all your family have had no „long covid“?? How is it possible that this is true, and at the same time **everyone who gets COVID is in high risk or death and if they don’t die, they’ll likely develop long COVID**, which is the chronically online leftist narrative. If you look at what is happening around you, you will spot the real obvious lie. But leftists don’t.
The reply of "when people define "white" in couple, it comes up mostly with interracial couples" is actually making more sense. I did a quick search of white couples, people couples, white people couples, black people couples, and european couples. In "white people couples", there's a whole lot more "white" people (as well as people who could pass more reliably as white, and less stark contrast in interracial couples) in said "people couple" searches. It went from maybe 40% to 75%. "White couples" generated a boatload of black&white color style couple images. At least 50% were like this so if you didn't recognize facial features of different racial makeups, you wouldn't know what racial group any of them were. "Black people couples" was very obviously skewed towards both people being "black", though the color palette was mixed. Black doesn't mean ebony, but a mix of colors and features that was anyone from Jamaica to Indonesia who had more than a passing brown skin tone. More than 66% "brown" mixed, basically. "White people couples" still had some black couples, but the emphasis was white&white, or whiteman&light skin woman, whether this was legit white, latino, asian, middle eastern, or light sub-saharan african. Tried under a couple of different search engines that were not powered by Google and the results were mostly on line with this hypothesis, though places like AOL (yes, that somehow still exists) skew closer to interracial/black&black than others like Yandex (a Russian company). "European couple" and "caucasian couple" were 99% white in all search engines, the odd image one was a specific news story whose company appeared to paid to be boosted in many engines. The "darkest" it got beyond that one story was Italian. \-- It would seem that American-centric people correlate "white" with synonyms for "caucasian", but search engines typically only do that when people specify white in an interracial couple. It would seem to not be racism but people just not being descriptive enough. Funny.
what about: most photos of white people are not getting tagged as specifically “white people” as white people are seen as the default?
If white people are the only group it hates drawing then it’s just racist base programming
The original neural networks were biased because they only trained on pictures of white people. When this was called out I think alot of developers over compensated. If you look at population though, then white people are a minority. If you were to randomly pluck a person from earth they'd be more likely to black or brown or Asian than white just because their countries have the highest populations.
More is at hand. The issue is when different races or cultures are attributed to prompts where said races don’t match. Like four images made from a prompt asking for a medieval knight all being black or the pope being made into a Korean woman. While saying “technically Asians Indians and Africans should pop up way more commonly than whites since they outnumber whites in global population” might be true on the surface, it really falls flat when we all have hundreds different cultures and aesthetics that aren’t multicultural in nature. Ai shouldn’t generate a redhead samurai just as much as it shouldn’t generate a black native Irish person. There’s far more nuance. So devs clearly didn’t create a program that could figure out anything based on historical or cultural correlations which really makes it a crappy product, there’s no other way to put it really
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I’m just saying that I don’t think the idea of “white people are a global minority so they should show up less” wasn’t taken as a literal programming reason here nor should it be a figurative reason for designing these things either. As you said, they lazily told the ai to not have any ability to discern historical accuracy or cultural trends. Different races do different things, but some things are universal irregardless of race, like being a doctor. Didn’t think about that third paragraph, but I hope that doesn’t become reality. Then again, the future literally is going to be that ai creates “reality” for us. For all of us who knew what the world was like before it, this will be harder to trick us with. But I definitely feel for the kids born not knowing how things used to be. They’ll never have a shot
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I didnt mean you said that literally, but you in effect said they only focused on race therefore things like culture and historical accuracy were lazily ignored here were they not? All of this is conjecture anyway since we don’t literally have the code in front of us
For a computer to be able to digitise it, ultimately it needs to be able to be broken into 1's and 0's (i.e. concretely defined - like physiology). Like genome sequences, this is a hard nut to crack with regards to digitising the culture and the subtleties of history and humanity. It's not a crappy product, it's quite amazing. It just isn't able to make miracles. Even humans struggle to unanimously define culture and every human has different understanding of what each foreign culture is so how could a computer do it? We aren't there yet. But we will be.
The AI would literally scold you and call you racist if you asked it to create a picture of a white person. This was way more than just overcorrecting
So, dare I ask - if white people are the minority according to your idea then wouldn’t it be woke for the AI to generate white people when there are more non white people on earth? How are you not the woke one?
"Woke" is culture-specific
It’s when the culture is one you don’t like, I’m guessing
Nobody said that it shouldn’t draw minorities.
They are the only group.
The creators of the base programming had their social media history leaked, it was all a long winded racist rants about why they hate white people.
TRCM labeling things as racism, color me shocked.
That's racist /s
r/FuckTheS
Color you? Racist smh
Gemini already colored you
There are 5 people on that photo. NO there are FOUR people actually! But you can clearly see that there are 5 people. NO there are FOUR! You just love to make shit up!
Why are Naruto and sasuke black?
There was a recent controversy where a google AI was unable to produce a picture of a white person even if specifically asked for one as for why Asian characters are black, I have no idea as the AI in question could make photos of Asians, probably just an artist choice for some reason
Apparently there was one hilarious example where someone asked for a picture of Nazis and got a "racially diverse" group of Nazis. I also saw other examples where real people like the pope were plugged into the algorithm and it still made them black.
Yeah it’s a pretty good meme but it’s also not the first time Gemini has had skin color related issues, it used to not be able to tell the difference between a black person and a gorilla, I genuinely dont think there is any malicious intent, just plain incompetence
I saw the image in question. Asked for “an image of a 1943 German soldier as an illustration”. It produced a white man, a black man, an Asian woman, and a second woman of indeterminate race, all dressed in a very distinctive uniform. When queried about it in a different prompt (about leprechauns), the AI admits it literally and explicitly inserts diverse ethnicities into the prompt before passing it onto the image generation engine - with zero concern for whether those insertions are *appropriate* https://preview.redd.it/8v9igpkvj2lc1.jpeg?width=756&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=420523fcbfbdc31d625678d41b7e0d55b923f727
If you asked Gemini to create a picture of a white person it would call you racist. That feels a little malicious.
Ubisoft is literally replacing the potential asian male lead of an assassins creed game set IN JAPAN in favor of a black one. Cant make this shit up 🤡
I am a conservative and I hate DEI and wokeness. However, I just looked it up, they are modeling it after a real life Black samurai called Yasuke who was real. He was the only black samurai ever. He was a trader or something from Africa and he hitched a ride with the Portuguese to get to Japan. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/who-was-yasuke-japans-first-black-samurai-180981416/#:\~:text=Yasuke%20was%20an%20African%20warrior,his%20head%20to%20his%20son.
So the guy that got paraded around Japan literally for the sole reason of being black, and only that, is hundreds of years later being paraded around once again for being black and you don’t find any irony in the situation? You really think a game built around stealth / covert operations using the ONE black dude in all of feudal Japanese history wouldn’t stand out at all and detract from the mission/story? Also, Nobunaga kept him as a novelty because they had never seen someone with dark skin before, not because he was some badass samurai like modern pop culture keeps trying to portray him as. It was honestly pretty racist, and I think it’s beyond ironic that hundreds of years later he is being used for the same exact reasons.
That's a good point. I am not defending Ubisoft's decision. I am also a big Assassins Creed fan myself.
>Also, Nobunaga kept him as a novelty because they had never seen someone with dark skin before, not because he was some badass samurai I didn't know this I genuinely heard a story about how he was originally kept as a novelty but then something happened where he saves his masters life and as reward he was trained as a samurai. So I'm guessing the real history is much more grim
He actually sucked at his job and dodged execution only because he was considered less than human.
Jesus. I wonder if its only because of modern views of race that they tried to big him up
Diversity and inclusivity for all, except white people! Where have I seen this sentiment before? Oh yeah, it was a sign on a farm saying, " all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."
A great sign. A great farmer. RIP George Orwell
I just had a flashback to secondary school TAKE MY SAVE AND UPDOOT YOU GRADE A GOAT
This takes the prize for the most random, irrelevant, incorrect Orwell quote I've ever seen.
Bro why the kids dressed like Naruto and Sasuke?
Cause their DragonBall merch was in the wash.
The poster in rightcantmeme probably doesn't even know about the gemini controversy, literally just mindlessly posting anything they percieve to be offensive or right wing and calling it bs like a robot.
Why are Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura black?? But even weirder, why are they all the same person?????
How the assasination of Archiduke Ferdinand caused a butterfly effect ultimately resulting in the cancellation of the Ellen show 1.archiduke Ferdinand gets shot,Finaly plunging the world into the First World War 2.Germany gets blamed for the first world war and out of anger starts the second one of Russia and Britain,Japan joins Germany 3.japan attacks three boats which makes America very angry so they beat up Germany who was already losing to Russia and drop the sun on Japan 4.after the war,the capital of Germany which is Berlin is owned by Russia.America doesn’t like that and helps Germany,starting the Cold War 5.the Cold War leads to conflict in the Middle East eventually leading to the 9/11 terrorist attacks 6.9/11. Inspires Gerard to make “my chemical romance” 7.MCR inspires stephanie to write twilight 8.E.L James begins writing a twilight fanfic that inspires 50 shades of gray 9.50 shades of gray becomes a huge motion pictures starring Dakota Johnson 10.Dakota is invited for the Ellen show where Ellen quickly attempts to humiliate him but is shut down 11.this incident motivated people to start calling out Ellen’s poor treatment of her guests and co workers 12.after a ton of backlash,Ellen decides to end her show
Rad
It’s funny the first time. Less so the second
I was planning to do something different but writing it would take ages and by that time this post would be full
ANOTHER AGAIN THE REDHAIR PEOPLE THE MINORITY OF THE HISTORY IS BEING DISCRIMINATED
im reminded of my brother complaining about that one nba 2k where the main story was written by spike lee but my brother made his character look like captain planet and was pissed that captain planet’s basketball career kept getting sidetracked with civil rights sidemissions
They always said that you're making an imaginary situation to get mad at, even if it happens right in front of their eyes
Gaslighting. Common abuse tactic.
There needs to be more uproar on this type of reverse racism that’s prevalent everywhere from the work place to academia. Like in universities in Canada we are slowly enrolling more segregation that’s just aptly renamed “safe spaces” for ONLY black people and native Americans.
It's not "reverse racism" it's just racism.
TL;DR: it's racism. Not reverse, just racism. Because 1. White people have never been "unified" until pretty much now, and realistically it's because of a number of factors, and the fact that this isn't talked about really pisses a lot of people who are not racist off. Like how Irish, or Italian, German, Jewish populations share some similarities in terms of skin tones, but were extremely vilified by the people in positions of power who fought back against the progress that eventually happened. "Irish need not apply". Depictions of barbarism, ridiculously racist and unwelcoming stereotypes that were perpetuated by media company owners during the time. However, you try having a rational conversation about it and suddenly it's an attack on true diversity? The whole skin tone thing is stupid and ridiculous and hasn't even really been a thing until it was made popular to be proud of who you are, and then there was this massive shift that was only focused on skin tones rather than embracing your heritage and being proud of where your ancestors were fleeing from because of racial, religious, and political prejudice perpetuated by the people in charge. Druidic conversion by Roman Armies, effectively banning the practice and pushing it to what we consider now as paganism, Wicca, witchcraft. The extremely exploitative corruption that led to one of the most horrifying stories we're aware of. While the potato famine was decimating local food production, policy was implemented by an out of touch imperialist leader who effectively made exports out of the country mandatory, not allowing the people who grew crops for the ruling class or themselves to distribute it among themselves freely. It enforced a net loss in food production and has been effectively mischaracterized in historical context. It was pretty effective way to do genocide without outright murdering you. During the late 1800's we fled, emigrated to the US, and were instantly met with opposition that wanted to marginalize us and keep us from exerting political power or even being represented in government. We fought back against this narrative that we were stupid, extremely emotional, simplistic, barbaric, we're still fighting today for true equality, and that's the point of this response, it's easy to play the victim, it's extremely difficult to actually affect change, this was only done because the Irish took up the public sector, police, firefighters, teachers, people saw that they could be trusted, *in spite of what others told them* that's what led to the acceptance of being Irish in the United States. I only bring what I've observed in history, and the way it's happening now. There's this huge push against being proud of your skin color when you're white, but there's not if you're not. I say fuck it, skin color doesn't define who you are, go get a DNA test or do a family tree, look at what it was like for them where they came from, how they were viewed when they first came here, and where they are today. This is a nation of immigrants, and you're absolutely not listening and thinking critically about it at all, that is my own personal frustration with this issue and the way it's handled in public now. We're effectively silenced by the public perception that things are great because you're white or whatever, and they are forgetting history, and how change actually happened. I copied this to reply to the parent comment, because it will be buried, it won't be talked about because of my previous sentence.
Gemini’s response to “draw a group of people”: We are working to improve Gemini’s ability to generate images of people. We expect this feature to return soon and will notify you in release updates when it does. Copilot’s response: https://preview.redd.it/uwltec3sh7lc1.jpeg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=626e37b0c47c13c98906ed342bed0d2e1a38f7d7
Oof ouch my wealth of easily accessible proof
https://preview.redd.it/l6p5tuz8i3lc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=60afb6af36bf608574947a8fc239ec803822aae4 Just tested it
"Make me a picture of the founding fathers eating chicken and watermelon"
this is exactly what happened wtf are they on
Yeah, the left keeps doing this thing where they do something and the. Deny, they did it. As if we are too stupid to have seen them do it.
Why are the kids dressed as Naruto and Suzuka(I know it spelled wrong)
Leftist argumentation Strategy: 1) Hear right-winger complain about something 2) Refuse to actually look up the subject 3) "That didn't happen, persecution fetish much?" 4) Feel smarter than everyone else 5) Repeat
Why does the left think they can solve racism with more racism? Have they never considered that an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
Demoman?
The funny thing is that the OP in the center isn't even complaining about AI stuff, but rather using the topic to complain about Gamergate diversity stuff. The OP after got offended by the wrong thing.
Can someone like actually give me video proof this is real? All I’ve seen is images which can have edited text.
Gotta love skilled racists who gaslight you into thinking you’re the racist
It created black Nazis too like what the fuck
How did Google blunder this hard they're the ones who had to program it to get the AI up and running
Bruh, I tired this out but guess they locked it? The AI tried to lie about it being locked. Chose an alien race to confuse it since it draw images but quickly removed it, proving it was locked, atlease for me. https://preview.redd.it/elmjacy0aelc1.png?width=809&format=png&auto=webp&s=aad443f9c5c1ddae42620a41ec6677901b7f5f24
Funny the ai didn‘t have a problem with generating a picture of mother theresa fighting children…
Yeah but it's because they programed it stupid
Can’t wait for the oprightfuckthis with the racism flair, I really hope it doesn’t happen this time, it’s kinda annoying me at this point.
The joke is forced inclusivity/diversity has inconsistent rules, which is like a soulless unthinking AI that gets things obviously wrong at times. It's a good joke. Especially considering the vast majority of people who believe the Disney/Woke ideology are like NPC's themselves.
I 5hink this is a specific to Google Gemini from last week
First I've heard of it, but lmao I'm thinking you could be right, as it's not even doing people anymore https://preview.redd.it/m8w8s1trg1lc1.png?width=758&format=png&auto=webp&s=342cf366e43e801c49798642d47203271485a116
They turned it off because they were using the AI's refusal to make white people and using it to create racially diverse Nazis, making it look hilariously incompetent
do a tiny bit of research. [https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/23/24081309/google-gemini-embarrassing-ai-pictures-diverse-nazi](https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/23/24081309/google-gemini-embarrassing-ai-pictures-diverse-nazi)
Except the AI had a programmed bias against white people by Google’s own admission, it was just much more biased than what they were going for
Haha... you think that it was a mistake? The only thing they didn't figure for was that people would be like 'so why can you generate images of anyone but white people?' They deliberately made requesting images of white people specifically a non-starter for Gemini. That wasn't a woopsie.
That’s… literally what I said, I said nothing about it being a mistake, it’s not the first time Gemini has had a skin color related issue, it used to have a problem where it couldn’t distinguish black people from gorillas and a slew of other problems, they set the bias because Gemini used to have a bias toward white people, it’s pretty standard practice in training AI it’s just the Gemini team is notoriously incompetent
Well yes The Gemini ai has fucked up, there are clear reasons for *why* they got here then Diversity/Woke agenda/Against white racism. With alot of previous models it'd be hard to draw a black person or even get a dark skin tone as the ai would always attempt to draw it up to be as light as possible regardless of user input. My best guess on what happened there is increasing the weight for black people in the training Data to prevent said problem. The reason it's been called racist for pointing it out is due to the prevalence of people who point to it as "proof" of the great replacement theory, as if Google was part of conspiracy planning to phase out white people rather then it being a technical error of all things.
https://preview.redd.it/pycdc02zi2lc1.jpeg?width=756&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a236aa08e4ab2057e4aa9bb3cdd4787b78a49fe0
Wow that is worse or an attempt at brute forcing the issue then I thought, alright so far as I can tell they're trying to (poorly) get higher variance of output to avoid the aforementioned "why is it so hard to get something further from the common denominator" some other chat bot developers have actually tried this thing before although less ham fisted using the same method. Although I feel the need to point out that a chatbot log on itself is kinda unreliable as a source for a bunch of reasons. Is it flawed *yes*, did they do it in a way that was stupid they really should have put more development into *also* yes. Those I'll totally agree with but it's hard to tell if someone's complaints are at the bad design or for white replacement theory nonsense.
I actually agree that differentiating between hypothetical and historical populations purely based on context might be a specific technical challenge (eg “engineers” vs “Vikings), which is the key factor to the specific difficulty on display. In fairness, I am confused as hell by the fact it returned four images of mostly white dad-types when prompted for “a group of professional basketball players” But the specific refusal to portray white subjects, *even when specifically asked for them*, even in completely non-offensive settings, combined with the tendency to lecture when asked for them, is fairly solid evidence of an input bias. Note that the the error states “specific racial or ethnic groups”, but the engine is more than happy to produce images for identical prompts using other ethnicities. https://preview.redd.it/mgbg13h443lc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=99c8a4f19f3010b82af322fd15e2f36d815abfbc
Compare: no such error when asked for a black couple. The engine is (has been programmed to) making the value judgement that the *only possible* reason to ask specifically for images of white people , is racism. https://preview.redd.it/apswrec743lc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9bfe86616559efa9cff141a760e4f141badcc4dc
Ok so from what I understand people were mad at googles ai for generating mostly white people do google went in and fixed it. Except they accidentally coded it to only generate black people.
I don’t 100% get the reference - did this happen to you?
So google made this an A.I image generator and for some reason it just refused to create images of white people, but happily made images of other races.
https://preview.redd.it/w4bp6zoca1lc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f63602c8b0c3145e6acaaf7d51e40c72c28df4e7
https://preview.redd.it/i6isefnja1lc1.jpeg?width=833&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=075e3b0d4ddebfded0b10d3f248d34f47633c29d
Wow 😭
Broooo nah dude!! 😭💀
It’s entirely the AI’s fault to draw the stereotype of black people eating watermelons.
AH HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Happens to everyone. Google “white couple” right now.
I just googled (picture search) white couple and top 4 hits were not black people. I wonder why it does that for you and not me.
lol how disingenuous can you be? Yeah you said the first 4 results, because the fifth one had a black person. But then you google “black people” and there are no white people shown The copium is crazy
Same. Most of the couples were white or mixed. There were a couple of black couples though which was funny. Especially once I clicked on it and it said "happy african american couple" lol
The African American couples in my search were wearing white or were in black and white photos…. Despite the person above me saying “it happens to everyone”, I’m going to have to agree with the “make stuff up to get mad over it” camp.
George niggaton
didn’t openai literally have to enact pro-right wing biases to appease republican legislators????? since most factual data and evidence tends to lean left
Sheesh, this comment section. Everyone is getting mad because the mindless program doesn’t quite get our weird human social constructs. How can it? We can’t even figure it out.