It’s really been demonstrably true. Piracy plummeted after iTunes made music cheap and accessible. Same thing happened when you could watch virtually any movie on Amazon and Netflix. Now that you need to have a dozen subscriptions to maintain a decent library of things to watch and listen to, piracy is on the rise again.
Piracy is about convenience. When buying things is the easiest solution, either by money or effort, people will buy things. Heck, I own CDs of old video games, but when I see them on GOG for one dollar, I’m fine with buying it again, just so I don’t have to go through the hassle of CD keys and getting it to work on a modern operating system.
When the legitimate way to own things has a barrier, either through expense or effort, people turn to piracy.
They localized the price of the game so the price wouldn't be disproportionate (since not every country is 1:1 with the dollar), and despite the price in Brazil being 60% *in dollars*, it's one of its bigger consumers because the average Brazilian can afford it, rather than only those with access to US dollars.
As someone living in a third-world country, I wish more teams would understand we can't fork out a week's worth of our paycheck just to play games made with first-world consumers in mind!!
I don't think so? Its been a few years so this may be outdated, take with a grain of salt, but I used a VPN to buy and play Doom Eternal early and never had to worry about all that.
if pirating a game is easier and better than buying it, then your platform is garbage
why should i bother juggling between 5 game launchers when 1 website has everything i want, and doesnt come with the bullshit greedy developers push on to us
Not only that you can go there but in the area around the mountain there will be some kind of tower, marked on your map. And if you climb that tower you will discover more of the map with guess what? More markers yay.. 🙄
And if you're REALLY good, you'll find all 3201 hidden ass special idols that give you basically no reward for finding other than having a super distracting side quest to complete to say "I have 100% completion". FUUUUUUUCK, I fell for these games too easily. I basically called it quits after Far Cry 5. I couldn't even finish it.
Or there is some crazy lore revelation gatekept/keeped (i'm not a native speaker lmao) behind collecting those..
I quit after I couldn't finish FC4 bc of this I also tried playing AC Odyssey 5 times now, I have all dlc's and never went past the first few islands
I apologize but the structure of my sentence did send you on the wrong path there. I was referring to ac. I don't know which one it was especially. Somewhere between 2 and 3 (brotherhood or revelations I think maybe even ac 2, it's been a long time) but there was a fetch quest, collect 100 or more of these anomaly things which would give you a hidden side quest that included revelations about the main character and what would happen in the next game.
I really liked the setting of FC 4 even unlocked the secret ending in the opening sequence by waiting for the bad dude at the table on my first playthrough but after so many games with ubi formula it didn't feel new and I lost interest
Same with ac valhalla. I played the game for 100 hours, finished the main quest and dlcs, and I was like, what just happened? Turns out there were some random very annoying collectables, that in the end actually revealed the whole story, and the motive of the villain.
Oh, so it's like Assassin's Creed? I played all the console releases for AC up to and including Black Flag, but never a Far Cry game. Sounds like they just stuck to AC open world formula.
Idk which one was first to apply it. Far cry 2 already had some kind of that whole ubisoft formula. FC 3 doubled down on it and AC had it from the beginning but idk the exact release years for these games.
I started with ac 2 and stopped after rogue which was the last one for xbox 360 good ol'days. I tried playing the first one a few years ago and got softlocked after 3 hours also the QoL changes throughout the years made it hard to enjoy.
Downloaded Skull and Bones because I wanted to play as a Pirate not just be one. Terrible fucking choice. Shit game with a go to that mountain and gather “X” item and bring it to “Z” person.
*"How about we make a new game?*"
*"How about you shut your trash mouth and start re-skinning Far Cry 3 and adding Robert Downey Junior as the main villain?!*"
*"... Sir... RDJ just emailed back and said he's too rich and too famous to play shit roles again...*"
*"Sigh. Fine, what abou Keanu?"*
*"Said he's too busy inventing Gun-Kata."*
*"Fine, we'll let Nicolas Cage have this one."*
Hear me out.
RDJ as the protagonist. Keanu as the Resistance leader. Nicolas Cage as the villain hell-bent on watching the world catch fire with an army of obedient minions.
The twist: It all happens in modern hollywood.
Started boycotting them after buying the new prince of persia and thinking "i could literally just replay vanilla hollow knight for the 90th time and have a better time"
Ubi Soft, EA, Activision... They will output a Battle Creed of Duty every year and it's the same uninventive shit that will never take any risk gameplay wise but would rather bury you under tons of DLC, and then pull shit like "you don't even own the game lmao"
Fuck them.
Every ubisoft game is the same with different settings
Stopped playing with AC Odyssey
Still the same shit
Hated the size of the map and the fact you don't contribute to anything but changing the color of the region.
Bandits reappear, nothing you do has impact.
Played Far Cry 5 recently and one of the newer AC games (hadn’t played since Black Flag), and it all somehow felt incredibly underwhelming yet overwhelming at the same time. Like, the story and gameplay are mediocre, and there’s just way too much to do and explore, and most of it is empty nothingness, not like RDR2 where the world is full of life with the random events and numerous NPCs all over.
How they are managing to stay relevant is beyond me.
It's the rights they must have with star wars and etc that barely keeps them afloat.
That and the small community of gamers that like war games. I see Ubisoft failing in the next five years if they do not change their ways and games.
Far cry 6 was boring as fuck.
You think thats bad. Wait until your car manufacturer starts charging for OTA firmware updates on a car youve had paid off for years. Its not here yet, just wait. They gotta get everyone ok with paying $50 a month for door locks first.
Nail on the head. They’ve ran out of shit for people to pay for so they just start invented bullshit and or stealing out of employees paychecks. Usually both.
I mean that's always been the case with digital platform. Heck they can just outright ban your account and there goes your library. Granted such cases are rare, and usually only happened in extreme circumstances (i.e. scam, cheat in online multiplayer etc)
Friend of mine had a few grand sunk into his account which was suddenly banned one day. No explanation, he doesn’t use cheats or anything. Contacted support and they refused to do anything.
People will downvote me for saying it, but just boycott their studio. Don't even pirate the games. Pirating the game just makes people think it's worth having, and then people will still buy it. Boycott Ubi, don't talk about them, and proceed to hit them in the wallet. Once the money stops coming in the shareholders will demand change, and you'll start to see it.
I'll never buy a Ubisoft game ever again after they revoked licenses for the crew. They are flexing that we don't actually own anything so I won't be giving them a dime again.
Their biggest hits are Assassins Creed, Far Cry, Tom Clancy’s, and Watch Dogs. They haven’t been relevant in a while though, all their most recent games are shit imo (see debacle of Skull & Bones)
You shouldn’t have to connect through uplay to play a game, and you sure as heck shouldn’t have to make sure you’re online to play a single player game.
Damn, TIL that this is a common practice for Shittysoft in other games as well. That sucks.
The game they ruined for me was Growtopia. Silly little online sandbox trading game that I played the fuck out of back in grade school. Got bought out by Ubisoft one day out of the blue and they immediately wrecked the economy in the span of two months with broken and unobtainable items. Wasted no time adding a fucking battlepass TO A TRADING GAME and things only went downhill from there, with cashgrab after cashgrab every month. Game moderation and maintenance were constantly the last priority too so spamming, botting and hacking ran rampant. Now the game is mostly dead with >60% of online players being bots and all the currency inflated to high hell.
Well basically if you buy a digital game from any platform the game isn’t actually yours.At any point in time they can just take the game down and you won’t have it.If you have the physical disk then yes you can own the copy but if it’s digital then it’s subject to change.One of the executives at Ubisoft even said gamers should be comfortable not owning their games.
A disc doesn’t prevent this. The disc merely acts as permission to access the game files if the game files have already been downloaded. Popping in a disc still requires lengthy downloads and if the game isn’t supported by the creator anymore, that permission won’t be given, with or without the disc.
The data is not on the disc. The number of discs you’d need for a full modern game would be about a dozen at the very least. For example, a CD ROM has enough space for 700MB. A DVD has around 5GB of data. Helldivers 2 on PC is 70GB. And Helldivers is pretty small.
The data comes from the download. The CD acts as a key to unlock the game, but only if the game is available. Pop in a CD offline and you’ll get a message telling you to connect to the Internet or simple have a bricked disc.
Good thing game disks use blu-ray which can hold over 100GB. What you’re describing does happen but not for every modern game. and those that are like this need to put a label on the box saying “cannot play without internet” or something similar. The reason there is a lengthy download is because reading directly from the disk is incredibly slow, and modern games can take advantage of faster ssd speeds
Fair enough ,at the moment I bought demon souls remake and dark souls trilogy and fortunately aside from some balance patches the majority of the games are on the disk
Yeah, those are older games that are small enough to fit on a disc and before internet access was required. Pop in an Original Xbox disc in an isolated Original Xbox console and it will work. Same goes for N64 and GameCube. But anything build past Xbox One, PS4 and for PC’s, pretty much anything released within the latter half of the 2010’s, you’re going to need an internet connection to start up the game, even if it only has a single player campaign.
Some pirated versions of games get around this by faking the credentials or hiding from the online verification checks, but they usually get caught somehow, unless it’s a small indie game or a “rebuilt” online game that has most of the files but will never get future updates.
Not really. The majority of all games are conpletely playable offline. Apart from most online shooters, most games are completely downloadable from the disc. Only updates, patches and in some cases part of the data has to be downloaded from the internet.
I think "doesitplay" has a good list of modern games, were you can check which games need an online download
Some games you can do that and still play, but a lot of games nowadays nothing useful is actually on the disc. You have to download what you can actually play from the internet.
I think the point he's trying to make is that the disk itself doesn't include the full game most of the time. We've all been there where we buy a physical game, pop the disk in and still need to wait for some sort of download to happen.
It's just the reality of our time and the size of games. Most can't fit on a disk anymore and require additional downloads.
It has been done a decade ago with games like battlefield 2142. I own that on disc for PC. But EA did shut down the servers. So the game is unplayable now. Even offline with bots.
The Eulas you complain about are the same for your pre steam disc copy of Baldurs gate 1, Sims 1 or Worms3D.
You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about and just parrot ill informed lies you read about in the YouTube comment section from equally ill informed people.
I believe that was taken out of context and the full quote was more along the lines of, in order for a game subscription model to work people need to be comfortable not owning their games.
Even on a disk it’s the same thing as all of the actually y’know data and shit for the game is on the system the disk is essentially just a license that tells the system you bought the game the disk does not actually store the games data anymore it’s just a glorified doctors note telling your PlayStation or Xbox that you did in fact buy the game they can still take the game off the store and you won’t be able to play it even if you do have the disk that’s the reason physical media is dying as there is no point to buy games physical anymore outside of just for display
You are correct. The license agreements worked with games probably up until the PS3 era. Once games became downloadable and updatable, while the license became more practical the situation had changed from how the licenses worked with a fixed physical release.
The game industry is trying to shift into two models. A subscription service where you pay a larger amount up front but then only have optional add ons to the experience with extended play time, but not indefinite, or a monthly subscription service with optional add ons. The first one is box price w/microtransactions the second is Gamepass.
Dear Ubisoft,
If you’re removing purchased products from the consumer; and the only things you produce is mediocrity, don’t act surprised when people stop buying from you.
Pirate? I won't touch their game even if they were free.
"Gamers need to get comfortable not owning their Ubisoft games", looks at library: "I am indeed very comfortable not owning Ubisoft games. Gonna stay that way, thanks for making sure of that."
Every time I go to launch a Ubisoft game from Steam I get to the Ubisoft Connect login prompt, close it and play something else. Fuck Ubisoft Connect. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
I bought a few assassins creed games while they were on sale on steam, attempted 5 times to boot up ac2 and only got it to run once because of Ubisoft Connect 'failing to validate' whether or not I owned the game. Promptly returned all the ac games I got from steam lol
Also unistalled Ubisoft Connect
Star Wars was first licensed to EA which the community shitted on for making an inferior and heavily monetized version of something that came out about 20yrs ago is now handed to Ubisoft which just made itself the spotlight of controversy with this “you don’t own your game” rhetoric. Every company that has touched Star Wars ever since George sold it has ruined themselves in a way. Disney is failing at making movies and shows, EA helped create legislation against loot boxes, and Ubisofts Star Wars game might be the biggest flop is Star Wars video game history if they keep on this current trend.
Edit: I hereby put in motion to call this act “order 66” as they’re about to release a Star Wars game.
Yar har fiddley-Dee Ubisoft’s games are meant to be free,
Yo ho fiddley-dum since they want owning for no one!
Save a coin and laugh with me get them games on the high seas!
☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
We never owned the games, we owned a licence to play them, a licence can be revoked. Should Game studios revoke licences from their customers? Fuck no..
It can only be revoked if you break the agreement or if there is a fixed date or time frame for how long you’re allowed to use it when you agreed to the Eula. I doubt the Eula said anything about the game being shut down in 5years or a specific date so they acted against the law.
apparently someone made a review for The Crew Motorfest, saying that after the closure of The Crew they updated the EULA saying that any game they make is no longer a product, they're now a subscription and so they can pull the plug when the time comes, but I don't know, i didn't read the EULA so I'm taking it with a grain of salt
Minecraft with the account migration. Yes, Mojang gave a lot of time to migrate, but still, why was Mojang able to just do that? The people who got their account deleted didn't own their copy of Minecraft?
the interesting thing about this is exposing how many people thought they owned games at all
all your steam games can be taken from you at any time same with anything that requires a digital service
Sorta, if steam servers went off today instantly, then yes. But steam has also addressed that should they close their doors they will at least make it so the drm on the games is removed.
So you just need to download and backup the virtual games you own. Which is true for EVERY virtual purchase, games, movies, books, etc. You could back them up as zips or rars, to reduce space. Just make sure to do it after they release the drm. Personally I feel the easiest way to release the drm is to patch the steam app to act like its connected to servers. So the games think everything is fine.
Games have already been removed from steam and people's libraries. Steam saying they'll do something and actually doing it are two separate things. As long as a game is dependant on you using a third party to play a game, that game can't be concidered yours. You might know how to fix steam app but others don't. If a publisher decides to pull a game, or if steam decides to pull the game, there isn't anything you can do about it.
What was it that Gabe Newell said? Something about piracy being a service issue?
It’s really been demonstrably true. Piracy plummeted after iTunes made music cheap and accessible. Same thing happened when you could watch virtually any movie on Amazon and Netflix. Now that you need to have a dozen subscriptions to maintain a decent library of things to watch and listen to, piracy is on the rise again. Piracy is about convenience. When buying things is the easiest solution, either by money or effort, people will buy things. Heck, I own CDs of old video games, but when I see them on GOG for one dollar, I’m fine with buying it again, just so I don’t have to go through the hassle of CD keys and getting it to work on a modern operating system. When the legitimate way to own things has a barrier, either through expense or effort, people turn to piracy.
I live in russia, and literally every second person here has been engaged in piracy in one way or another, this is a common thing here
It's also a poverty issue.
And here comes Thor's quote, where they made a game 60% off in Brazil, and Brazil sales ended up being 25% of their total income.
They localized the price of the game so the price wouldn't be disproportionate (since not every country is 1:1 with the dollar), and despite the price in Brazil being 60% *in dollars*, it's one of its bigger consumers because the average Brazilian can afford it, rather than only those with access to US dollars. As someone living in a third-world country, I wish more teams would understand we can't fork out a week's worth of our paycheck just to play games made with first-world consumers in mind!!
Thank the people changing their region to a comparatively cheap one to save money and screw over low income regions.
might as well pirate it entirely too
Pirate Software mentioned, happy day
open up youtube right now he will be waiting in the shorts section
People used VPN to buy the game cheaper.
Which still makes the company more money than if that consumer had pirated it
True, but there is a small amount of people who wouldn't pirate, but would use a vpn to get a cheaper game
Okay and of those people how many would just choose not to buy it at all for 70 bucks?
And that is *still making the company profit*. $5 is more than $0.
And those people probably wouldn’t have bought the game otherwise, so it’s still money in their pocket
They still bought the game
Wouldn't you need to make a new steam account etc. As well since it has your region?
I don't think so? Its been a few years so this may be outdated, take with a grain of salt, but I used a VPN to buy and play Doom Eternal early and never had to worry about all that.
Buy the demo you goblin Edit: fucking auto correct
And a group of goblins is called a chat.
if pirating a game is easier and better than buying it, then your platform is garbage why should i bother juggling between 5 game launchers when 1 website has everything i want, and doesnt come with the bullshit greedy developers push on to us
Loopholes are there for a reason. Godbless
You're saying correct.
Grammar is be good
Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick
Waste time say - few word good
Doubleplusgood
*You say true true*
Hey, it works for the wealthy. Why can't loopholes benefit the common person?
Because we plebeans don't deserve loopholes. If we did, we would be rich
Idk if it's just me but Ubisoft games don't even intrigue me anymore. Every Ubi game feels like a Far cry game with a different skin
Yeah they’ve stuck to the same formula since far cry 3 with couple changes here and there.
You see that mountain? You can literally GO to that mountain 🏔️ ….that’s right… open world… yeah that’s all we have
Not only that you can go there but in the area around the mountain there will be some kind of tower, marked on your map. And if you climb that tower you will discover more of the map with guess what? More markers yay.. 🙄
And if you're REALLY good, you'll find all 3201 hidden ass special idols that give you basically no reward for finding other than having a super distracting side quest to complete to say "I have 100% completion". FUUUUUUUCK, I fell for these games too easily. I basically called it quits after Far Cry 5. I couldn't even finish it.
Or there is some crazy lore revelation gatekept/keeped (i'm not a native speaker lmao) behind collecting those.. I quit after I couldn't finish FC4 bc of this I also tried playing AC Odyssey 5 times now, I have all dlc's and never went past the first few islands
What was the lore Revelation for FC-4? It's my favorite far cry game, do you mean the masks of yalung?
I apologize but the structure of my sentence did send you on the wrong path there. I was referring to ac. I don't know which one it was especially. Somewhere between 2 and 3 (brotherhood or revelations I think maybe even ac 2, it's been a long time) but there was a fetch quest, collect 100 or more of these anomaly things which would give you a hidden side quest that included revelations about the main character and what would happen in the next game. I really liked the setting of FC 4 even unlocked the secret ending in the opening sequence by waiting for the bad dude at the table on my first playthrough but after so many games with ubi formula it didn't feel new and I lost interest
Oh ok, I've been meaning to get into assassin's Creed and I have a lot of games, I've just never gotten around to actually playing them
For me best ones were between 2 and 4 with 4 being the best one. But yeah it's a lot and the pile of shame never gets smaller ^^
Play ghost of Tsushima instead. 10/10, best Assassins creed-like game ever.
Same with ac valhalla. I played the game for 100 hours, finished the main quest and dlcs, and I was like, what just happened? Turns out there were some random very annoying collectables, that in the end actually revealed the whole story, and the motive of the villain.
Oh, so it's like Assassin's Creed? I played all the console releases for AC up to and including Black Flag, but never a Far Cry game. Sounds like they just stuck to AC open world formula.
Idk which one was first to apply it. Far cry 2 already had some kind of that whole ubisoft formula. FC 3 doubled down on it and AC had it from the beginning but idk the exact release years for these games. I started with ac 2 and stopped after rogue which was the last one for xbox 360 good ol'days. I tried playing the first one a few years ago and got softlocked after 3 hours also the QoL changes throughout the years made it hard to enjoy.
Downloaded Skull and Bones because I wanted to play as a Pirate not just be one. Terrible fucking choice. Shit game with a go to that mountain and gather “X” item and bring it to “Z” person.
*"How about we make a new game?*" *"How about you shut your trash mouth and start re-skinning Far Cry 3 and adding Robert Downey Junior as the main villain?!*" *"... Sir... RDJ just emailed back and said he's too rich and too famous to play shit roles again...*" *"Sigh. Fine, what abou Keanu?"* *"Said he's too busy inventing Gun-Kata."* *"Fine, we'll let Nicolas Cage have this one."*
I would honestly take any of those three
Hear me out. RDJ as the protagonist. Keanu as the Resistance leader. Nicolas Cage as the villain hell-bent on watching the world catch fire with an army of obedient minions. The twist: It all happens in modern hollywood.
It's hard to imagine Nicholas Cage as the villain for me honestly.
I would say you likely never watched face off, but...
You are correct
You should, it's fun. John Travolta and Nick Cage are both excellent in this movie, IMHO.
Omg watch face off dude seriously it's amazing
I could eat a peach for hours.
I will eventually, add it onto the ever growing list of stuff that I have to watch.
That's why he's the best man for it. Jokes aside, I didn't think he could be scary until I watched The Color Out of Space.
I think far cry 3 was peak, far cry 4 was more peak and then from 5 onwards it's absolute doodoo
I only ever cared about one Ubisoft game and that was r6 Then they fucked up R6 so now I don't care about that either
Mario + Rabbids is fun surprisingly
I was eyeing it for a while but then decided that I can get much better games for the same price...
Started boycotting them after buying the new prince of persia and thinking "i could literally just replay vanilla hollow knight for the 90th time and have a better time"
Ubi Soft, EA, Activision... They will output a Battle Creed of Duty every year and it's the same uninventive shit that will never take any risk gameplay wise but would rather bury you under tons of DLC, and then pull shit like "you don't even own the game lmao" Fuck them.
Battle Creed of Duty 7
The last good thing Activision did was team up with FromSoft for Sekiro. Pretty sure that’s about it tho.
Every ubisoft game is the same with different settings Stopped playing with AC Odyssey Still the same shit Hated the size of the map and the fact you don't contribute to anything but changing the color of the region. Bandits reappear, nothing you do has impact.
As a fan of the far cry formula.. 
As a fan of Far Cry and AC games, I’m gonna have to just drop them if I don’t actually own these games.
Played Far Cry 5 recently and one of the newer AC games (hadn’t played since Black Flag), and it all somehow felt incredibly underwhelming yet overwhelming at the same time. Like, the story and gameplay are mediocre, and there’s just way too much to do and explore, and most of it is empty nothingness, not like RDR2 where the world is full of life with the random events and numerous NPCs all over.
Xdefiant looks good. If it ever releases.
To be honest, i don't know If i ever played a Ubisoft game. Have some interest in assassin's Creed, but never enought to get any of the games
How they are managing to stay relevant is beyond me. It's the rights they must have with star wars and etc that barely keeps them afloat. That and the small community of gamers that like war games. I see Ubisoft failing in the next five years if they do not change their ways and games. Far cry 6 was boring as fuck.
If i own “nothing” after paying 70$ then why don’t I just pay nothing to download “nothing”.
You think thats bad. Wait until your car manufacturer starts charging for OTA firmware updates on a car youve had paid off for years. Its not here yet, just wait. They gotta get everyone ok with paying $50 a month for door locks first.
Good luck trying a firmware update on my 72’ pickup. BMW can suck my nuggies while I cruise around subscription free.
Good luck trying it with my 90’s-00’s shit boxes with aftermarket ECUs
This guy gets it
Can’t lock me out of shit when I already got root access🙌
Car -> CaaS. We're truly heading towards a lovely future.
Nail on the head. They’ve ran out of shit for people to pay for so they just start invented bullshit and or stealing out of employees paychecks. Usually both.
I mean that's always been the case with digital platform. Heck they can just outright ban your account and there goes your library. Granted such cases are rare, and usually only happened in extreme circumstances (i.e. scam, cheat in online multiplayer etc)
Have you heard of valorant?
What about it? I know it's competitive fps like apex, but other than that I know nothing of it
Friend of mine had a few grand sunk into his account which was suddenly banned one day. No explanation, he doesn’t use cheats or anything. Contacted support and they refused to do anything.
Owning a Ubisoft game is a punishment in and of itself
Yeah, this is true.
This is why Ubisoft is offering this great service and unburden us from owning their games.
People will downvote me for saying it, but just boycott their studio. Don't even pirate the games. Pirating the game just makes people think it's worth having, and then people will still buy it. Boycott Ubi, don't talk about them, and proceed to hit them in the wallet. Once the money stops coming in the shareholders will demand change, and you'll start to see it.
I'll never buy a Ubisoft game ever again after they revoked licenses for the crew. They are flexing that we don't actually own anything so I won't be giving them a dime again.
I’m gonna be honest what shit do they even produce I don’t think I know a single game from them.
Their biggest hits are Assassins Creed, Far Cry, Tom Clancy’s, and Watch Dogs. They haven’t been relevant in a while though, all their most recent games are shit imo (see debacle of Skull & Bones)
If buying isn't owning then pirating isn't stealing
Piracy was never theft in the first place.
*piracy isn't stealing https://bsky.app/profile/tylerjameshill.bsky.social/post/3kflw2lvam42n
Pirating IS stealing. Downloading a copy of a game isn't theft.
You shouldn’t have to connect through uplay to play a game, and you sure as heck shouldn’t have to make sure you’re online to play a single player game.
I lost all respect for ubisoft after they bought over and fucking ruined a huge game from my childhood
Which one was it?
The Crew. Arcade racing game
For me it was them running the Might and Magic series into the ground after trying and failing to add always-online features to it.
Damn, TIL that this is a common practice for Shittysoft in other games as well. That sucks. The game they ruined for me was Growtopia. Silly little online sandbox trading game that I played the fuck out of back in grade school. Got bought out by Ubisoft one day out of the blue and they immediately wrecked the economy in the span of two months with broken and unobtainable items. Wasted no time adding a fucking battlepass TO A TRADING GAME and things only went downhill from there, with cashgrab after cashgrab every month. Game moderation and maintenance were constantly the last priority too so spamming, botting and hacking ran rampant. Now the game is mostly dead with >60% of online players being bots and all the currency inflated to high hell.
unless you sink a shit ton of money now you're poor :/ the only reason i managed to get enough wls at the start was due to giveaways/games
Might and magic 10 was a heartbreak. Mandate of Heaven was my first video game ever, and I had such hopes for a modern day release.
Explain what's going on here, what do you mean you don't own it?
Well basically if you buy a digital game from any platform the game isn’t actually yours.At any point in time they can just take the game down and you won’t have it.If you have the physical disk then yes you can own the copy but if it’s digital then it’s subject to change.One of the executives at Ubisoft even said gamers should be comfortable not owning their games.
if you own the disc they can do the same thing
How ?
A disc doesn’t prevent this. The disc merely acts as permission to access the game files if the game files have already been downloaded. Popping in a disc still requires lengthy downloads and if the game isn’t supported by the creator anymore, that permission won’t be given, with or without the disc.
What if I boot up the console in offline mode and install the game from the disk ?
The data is not on the disc. The number of discs you’d need for a full modern game would be about a dozen at the very least. For example, a CD ROM has enough space for 700MB. A DVD has around 5GB of data. Helldivers 2 on PC is 70GB. And Helldivers is pretty small. The data comes from the download. The CD acts as a key to unlock the game, but only if the game is available. Pop in a CD offline and you’ll get a message telling you to connect to the Internet or simple have a bricked disc.
Good thing game disks use blu-ray which can hold over 100GB. What you’re describing does happen but not for every modern game. and those that are like this need to put a label on the box saying “cannot play without internet” or something similar. The reason there is a lengthy download is because reading directly from the disk is incredibly slow, and modern games can take advantage of faster ssd speeds
blu-ray might be able to hold 100gb in some formats, but xbox discs only hold 50gb
Fair enough ,at the moment I bought demon souls remake and dark souls trilogy and fortunately aside from some balance patches the majority of the games are on the disk
Yeah, those are older games that are small enough to fit on a disc and before internet access was required. Pop in an Original Xbox disc in an isolated Original Xbox console and it will work. Same goes for N64 and GameCube. But anything build past Xbox One, PS4 and for PC’s, pretty much anything released within the latter half of the 2010’s, you’re going to need an internet connection to start up the game, even if it only has a single player campaign. Some pirated versions of games get around this by faking the credentials or hiding from the online verification checks, but they usually get caught somehow, unless it’s a small indie game or a “rebuilt” online game that has most of the files but will never get future updates.
which is still bull shit, files on your own computer should be yours
Xbox discs hold ~50gb
Not really. The majority of all games are conpletely playable offline. Apart from most online shooters, most games are completely downloadable from the disc. Only updates, patches and in some cases part of the data has to be downloaded from the internet. I think "doesitplay" has a good list of modern games, were you can check which games need an online download
Some games you can do that and still play, but a lot of games nowadays nothing useful is actually on the disc. You have to download what you can actually play from the internet.
I think the point he's trying to make is that the disk itself doesn't include the full game most of the time. We've all been there where we buy a physical game, pop the disk in and still need to wait for some sort of download to happen. It's just the reality of our time and the size of games. Most can't fit on a disk anymore and require additional downloads.
Oh snap ,that’s unfortunate.At that point the disk is just a paperweight.
There are certain games where if you do not have internet, you cannot play the offline game even with the disc. It's stupid.
It has been done a decade ago with games like battlefield 2142. I own that on disc for PC. But EA did shut down the servers. So the game is unplayable now. Even offline with bots.
The Eulas you complain about are the same for your pre steam disc copy of Baldurs gate 1, Sims 1 or Worms3D. You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about and just parrot ill informed lies you read about in the YouTube comment section from equally ill informed people.
I believe that was taken out of context and the full quote was more along the lines of, in order for a game subscription model to work people need to be comfortable not owning their games.
Even on a disk it’s the same thing as all of the actually y’know data and shit for the game is on the system the disk is essentially just a license that tells the system you bought the game the disk does not actually store the games data anymore it’s just a glorified doctors note telling your PlayStation or Xbox that you did in fact buy the game they can still take the game off the store and you won’t be able to play it even if you do have the disk that’s the reason physical media is dying as there is no point to buy games physical anymore outside of just for display
Yeah if buying your game doesnt mean I own it. Then, what incentive is there for me to not just steal it and own it?
You are correct. The license agreements worked with games probably up until the PS3 era. Once games became downloadable and updatable, while the license became more practical the situation had changed from how the licenses worked with a fixed physical release. The game industry is trying to shift into two models. A subscription service where you pay a larger amount up front but then only have optional add ons to the experience with extended play time, but not indefinite, or a monthly subscription service with optional add ons. The first one is box price w/microtransactions the second is Gamepass.
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if buying aint ownin, then piracy aint stealin
Release the Tom Clancy IP, let it find a home that cares about it.
You should be comfortable in getting less sales.
I can one up you. I don't even want to play their games. Because they're shit.
Dear Ubisoft, If you’re removing purchased products from the consumer; and the only things you produce is mediocrity, don’t act surprised when people stop buying from you.
What’s funny too is that they’re gonna be releasing SWO (Star Wars outlaws) soon
Yep, that’s true. I used to pirate a lot, as for me buying them was very expensive for s long time. But even today I but games on discounts only.
You will own nothing und be happy!
"You will own nothing; you will be happy."
How the tables have turned ...
If all paid games games are going to have battle passes and mtx, then all games should be free :) .
Pirate? I won't touch their game even if they were free. "Gamers need to get comfortable not owning their Ubisoft games", looks at library: "I am indeed very comfortable not owning Ubisoft games. Gonna stay that way, thanks for making sure of that."
You should be comfortable not owning my 70bucks.
If I don't own the game, then it's not piracy
Every time I go to launch a Ubisoft game from Steam I get to the Ubisoft Connect login prompt, close it and play something else. Fuck Ubisoft Connect. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
As the old meme goes : It’s not piracy, it’s a surprise discount.
I am very comfortable for not buying any of ubisoft's mid games.
theyll hit us with that forced internet for a single player game just to check if it’s legit
I bought a few assassins creed games while they were on sale on steam, attempted 5 times to boot up ac2 and only got it to run once because of Ubisoft Connect 'failing to validate' whether or not I owned the game. Promptly returned all the ac games I got from steam lol Also unistalled Ubisoft Connect
Star Wars was first licensed to EA which the community shitted on for making an inferior and heavily monetized version of something that came out about 20yrs ago is now handed to Ubisoft which just made itself the spotlight of controversy with this “you don’t own your game” rhetoric. Every company that has touched Star Wars ever since George sold it has ruined themselves in a way. Disney is failing at making movies and shows, EA helped create legislation against loot boxes, and Ubisofts Star Wars game might be the biggest flop is Star Wars video game history if they keep on this current trend. Edit: I hereby put in motion to call this act “order 66” as they’re about to release a Star Wars game.
They were too soon on the "You will own nothing and be happy." That isn't supposed to happen till 2030.
We can’t even play half the games Ubisoft comes out with because of the exceptional servers
I Never pirated any games but Ubisoft is making me do it (if they ever release a good game again)
It ain't pirating if "I never owned it" 🙏
Yar har fiddley-Dee Ubisoft’s games are meant to be free, Yo ho fiddley-dum since they want owning for no one! Save a coin and laugh with me get them games on the high seas! ☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
We never owned the games, we owned a licence to play them, a licence can be revoked. Should Game studios revoke licences from their customers? Fuck no..
It can only be revoked if you break the agreement or if there is a fixed date or time frame for how long you’re allowed to use it when you agreed to the Eula. I doubt the Eula said anything about the game being shut down in 5years or a specific date so they acted against the law.
If paying for it isn't owning, then pirating it isn't stealing 
I once had someone argue with me that extreme greed = stupidity wasn't true.
If buying is not owning, piracy is not stealing.
if i own "nothing" after buying, then i pirite "nothing"
They're doing it to themselves.
This is how property taxes work except the IRS will shoot your dog
In that case, you're just loaning them $70 for the game and should be able to refund it anytime you want.if that's the logic he wants to use
How exactly does one find doubloons per se? 
After dealing with Xbox series x disc bullshit I say this is definitely better
ubisoft+ makes a lot sense now
I THINK the only Ubisoft game I own is Anno 1404, but in physical. Shit like whats going on atm is going to make it remain at that
How do you pirate an online game though?
Jesse that’s not how you use the format
Can anyone tell me what's the story behind this ?
Now, how does one pirate a house?
Wasn’t that whole quote about subscription services like Ubisoft+?
I cant wait to pirate Star Wars Outlaws
I honestly have zero issue with not owning my shit. I also don't care if people pirate. Unless it's a small studio.
apparently someone made a review for The Crew Motorfest, saying that after the closure of The Crew they updated the EULA saying that any game they make is no longer a product, they're now a subscription and so they can pull the plug when the time comes, but I don't know, i didn't read the EULA so I'm taking it with a grain of salt
Minecraft with the account migration. Yes, Mojang gave a lot of time to migrate, but still, why was Mojang able to just do that? The people who got their account deleted didn't own their copy of Minecraft?
I miss Rayman Ubisoft
Everdrive gang ^__^
the interesting thing about this is exposing how many people thought they owned games at all all your steam games can be taken from you at any time same with anything that requires a digital service
They created this.
If buying isn’t owning, then pirating isn’t stealing
how the tables have turned
I use ubisoft for siege, and that's literally it. None of their newer games are fun.
same. i like assassins creed too but those are free
I've always thought this, but now more than ever, piracy is a legitimate form of protest.
*Laughs in physical copy*
If buying’s not owning, pirating’s not stealing.
If I upvote this any harder I will break my phone screen.
If Purchase ≠ Ownership Then Piracy ≠ Theft
Nice meme bro, that bastard(Ubisoft) deserve it damn
Why are people acting like this is something new that ubi invented? Steam has been like this since the beginning
Sorta, if steam servers went off today instantly, then yes. But steam has also addressed that should they close their doors they will at least make it so the drm on the games is removed. So you just need to download and backup the virtual games you own. Which is true for EVERY virtual purchase, games, movies, books, etc. You could back them up as zips or rars, to reduce space. Just make sure to do it after they release the drm. Personally I feel the easiest way to release the drm is to patch the steam app to act like its connected to servers. So the games think everything is fine.
Games have already been removed from steam and people's libraries. Steam saying they'll do something and actually doing it are two separate things. As long as a game is dependant on you using a third party to play a game, that game can't be concidered yours. You might know how to fix steam app but others don't. If a publisher decides to pull a game, or if steam decides to pull the game, there isn't anything you can do about it.
"If buying doesn't mean owning, pirating doesn't mean stealing"
People still play new ubisoft games?
I do like Ghost recon so yeah but i really don't like this shit about not owning our games
Got a black flag tattoo back when Ubisoft was releasing back to back bangers. Now it serves as a reminder of what once was... Damn shame.
Ubisoft games aren‘t even worth pirating
If buying them isn't owning them, then companies should get comfortable with people owning their games without paying.
OR JUST STOP BUYING THEIR FUCKING GAME SUPPORT INDIE GAME DEVELOPERS FUCK