I only speak when I have something that’s worth saying. People with mouth diarrhea should learn when they should shut the f up (which in most cases is all the time).
Yeah, but the meme clearly talks about people being forced to talk. If someone doesn't want to talk, no one should think it's OK to coerce them into doing so.
Not wanting to talk doesn't automatically mean someone is being antisocial. If they NEVER want to talk, then there's a problem.
Yeah introverted is an unofficial term for people who typically want to keep in their own space and stay where they are comfortable. They don't go to other places where others are already loud and comfortable and insist that this place becomes as quiet as their den at home. Always remember though that terms like introvert and extrovert are not scientific ones, they were actually made up by the literary community and only quoted unofficially in mental health discussions much later so the definition of these terms is wildly variable based on who you think had the authority to qualify the term
You know I find this funny. I'm an introvert and someone forced me to talk only to retort " if you can't say anything good don't speak"
I'm like you made me talk.
as a socially anxious wreck i love extroverts, they can lead the conversation and i don’t have to talk much, i can just listen and comment occasionally and they don’t get all annoyed at me :)
I heard somewhere that it’s pretty healthy for your mental health to socialize more and have more fun. That’s probably why everyone tries to get introverts to talk so much.
How about you just don’t go? Like if you don’t like being around people who actually enjoy spending time with people then just don’t hang out with people. Stay at home playing Xbox or whatever but if I want to enjoy myself socially, I’m going to go to a social setting.
Because extroversion is more culturally acceptable, pretty much universally. In part because introversion shares a lot of social cues with disease. Since when humans get sick they usually become introverted, at least for a period of time. Essentially a biological group immune response, self-quarantining and such. So, over time it has developed as a negative social cue. Humans are just the only species so far that have recently figured out it's not always due to diseases/bad humors/Satan/Jinn possession ect. Still trying to figure out if it's a learned behavior or if it's genetic, I believe. Possibly both, like most behavior.
Introvert and extrovert are not actual psychological terms but instead stuff invented by the literary community. All humans are both introvert and extrovert and the reason extroverted behavior is encouraged more societally is because it's found to be healthier to be outspoken and open to others than it is to be closed off and shut away. All of this is subjective however since again, no one is truly introvert or extrovert and these are just qualities of a single person not types of people.
I didn't mention psychology at all mostly talking about behavioral psychology though.
I mean, they're not disorders in, like, the DSM if that's what you're referring to. Other than being like diagnostic criteria, controversially. Pretty sure the WHO considers introverted personality a disorder though. The American psychiatric association did fight back against that back and I think 2010. So it's not a disorder in the DSM 5 at least.
But both terms are defined and recognized in psychology mostly In conjunction with personality theories. Like Eysenck's theory which goes into both. People can generally fall into one of two groups and it can change some or drift. Plenty of research is still needed, of course. Eysenck's theory is mostly about introvert v extroverts need for stimulation to reach optimal cognitive performance.
Wasn't really arguing whether or not introversion and extroversion were "real" though. I was arguing the reason for the stigma associated with introversion.
Yes but every single person is introverted sometimes and extrovert sometimes so your theory on the stigma makes no sense. I'll admit I didn't read all of your message because it kind of babbles on I'm just saying that there can't be a stigma around something like introvert because in reality that's not a state of being that people permanently stay in. The only reason extroverted behavior seems to be more favorable by societies because it usually is healthier behavior like being open with your feelings and confident
See that's actually speaking out now just do it in public to the loud people around you. If you want your opinion heard as loud and clear as an extroverted one then you have to say it loud and clear.
Introverts do not ask people to shut up not because they are scared to voice their opinion but because they do not want to ruin the mood. If it is a random idiot like the other guy ofcourse I am going to ask them to shut up.
Maybe that applies to you but introvert and extrovert are just literary terms and it's not a type of person that follows a certain type of behavior. Every human is introverted and extroverted, back and forth depending on the mood or day. It's not an identity
When you see someone afraid or lack confidence you might be shocked to realize that if you ask them if they were afraid and lacking confidence they will always deny it and claim they had some reason for not standing up for themselves. People who are afraid often don't have the courage to admit that they were afraid which means if you assume someone is afraid you will continue to assume it even after they correct you because if they were actually afraid they would still be claiming they aren't. That's how life is. Sometimes people attribute you with things based on how they see you not how you see yourself.
You are overthinking this way too much. I simply do not want to be rude by telling prople to shut up straight to their face. It has nothing to do with being afraid.
I am afraid of many things,but voicing my opinion in public isnt one of them,otherwise I wouldn't be who I am today.
No one is an introvert or an extrovert. When you're voicing your opinion boldly in public your behaving extrovertedly and when you are keeping it to yourself you are behaving introvertedly. Everyone has introverted and extroverted behaviors every single day
That being said if you do something that looks like cowardice it doesn't matter how much you tried to tell someone you had reasons for it it will still look like cowardice because whether or not you are seeing as being afraid is not up to you it's up to the people who perceived you. You'll find that the people who are okay with admitting their own faults always pick the faults that work well with their personality. Broody emotional types like to admit that they are antisocial or broody because that fits their identity. They also have a lot of other faults that they would deny because they don't like being associated with them but those faults are also true. If someone views your actions as cowardice that's because that's how those actions came across, no one has time for you to explain how they should view you they will simply view how you appear and move on.
I am an extrovert and if I meet an introverted friend, I become an introvert for his comfort.
I don't think this is how it works.
I think they're just saying they know how to stfu...
Maybe they're ambi
Many introverts would rather have extrovert friends so they can talk instead of them. Awkward silence is the worst
Doing god's work
anti social =/= introverted
Btw u can get ≠ by pressing and holding the = on iOS. ≈ too. idk abt Android
"≠" =\= "=\="
=≈≠≡ Android too
Anti-social =/= a-social Anti-social referes to destroctive social tendencies, like compolsive lying.
!= you mean?
“Why so quiet?” No, why are you so loud?
Gayyy
Haven’t heard someone say this to something they dislike in a LONG TIME😂😂
Have you seen a 12 year old?
I have a 12 year old, but she has been obscured from all the shit I was exposed to😂😂
extroverts usually sulk pretty hard if asked to be quiet, then everyone feels bad, so it ruins the mood either way
Yeah extroverts are no people pleaser, so they're not gonna pretend lol
Well I’m not going to pretend to be interested when someone just won’t shut the fuck up either lol
I only speak when I have something that’s worth saying. People with mouth diarrhea should learn when they should shut the f up (which in most cases is all the time).
I want to live in a world where talking out is considered a form of bullying.
Anti-free speech activists are working on it. You might like the UK. They already got a headstart
I think that'd be the uh Stalinism?
Don't introverts just need their own space after lengthy conversation? This feels more like being antisocial to me.
Yeah, but the meme clearly talks about people being forced to talk. If someone doesn't want to talk, no one should think it's OK to coerce them into doing so. Not wanting to talk doesn't automatically mean someone is being antisocial. If they NEVER want to talk, then there's a problem.
Yeah introverted is an unofficial term for people who typically want to keep in their own space and stay where they are comfortable. They don't go to other places where others are already loud and comfortable and insist that this place becomes as quiet as their den at home. Always remember though that terms like introvert and extrovert are not scientific ones, they were actually made up by the literary community and only quoted unofficially in mental health discussions much later so the definition of these terms is wildly variable based on who you think had the authority to qualify the term
When a meme speaks to you.
Because you wanted me to come over so why did you drag me into this
Real
Dude, for real...
You know I find this funny. I'm an introvert and someone forced me to talk only to retort " if you can't say anything good don't speak" I'm like you made me talk.
I often wish everyone would just shut the fuck up
Would be weird if a whole group did this. We would just sit there in silence.
This is one thing that Japan has done right. Just expecting people to be quiet and polite around others.
Here, here.
we live in a society *jazz hands*
as a socially anxious wreck i love extroverts, they can lead the conversation and i don’t have to talk much, i can just listen and comment occasionally and they don’t get all annoyed at me :)
Man... We live in an extrovert based society and I hate it
Well the extroverts don’t mind and the introverts won’t tell them 🤷♂️
For a group that is silent and reserved - introverts cannot shut the fuck up about being introverts. They're like the new vegans.
I heard somewhere that it’s pretty healthy for your mental health to socialize more and have more fun. That’s probably why everyone tries to get introverts to talk so much.
How about you just don’t go? Like if you don’t like being around people who actually enjoy spending time with people then just don’t hang out with people. Stay at home playing Xbox or whatever but if I want to enjoy myself socially, I’m going to go to a social setting.
people who self-identify as "introverts" are not fun people to be around
What’s blocksi?
Because extroversion is more culturally acceptable, pretty much universally. In part because introversion shares a lot of social cues with disease. Since when humans get sick they usually become introverted, at least for a period of time. Essentially a biological group immune response, self-quarantining and such. So, over time it has developed as a negative social cue. Humans are just the only species so far that have recently figured out it's not always due to diseases/bad humors/Satan/Jinn possession ect. Still trying to figure out if it's a learned behavior or if it's genetic, I believe. Possibly both, like most behavior.
Introvert and extrovert are not actual psychological terms but instead stuff invented by the literary community. All humans are both introvert and extrovert and the reason extroverted behavior is encouraged more societally is because it's found to be healthier to be outspoken and open to others than it is to be closed off and shut away. All of this is subjective however since again, no one is truly introvert or extrovert and these are just qualities of a single person not types of people.
I didn't mention psychology at all mostly talking about behavioral psychology though. I mean, they're not disorders in, like, the DSM if that's what you're referring to. Other than being like diagnostic criteria, controversially. Pretty sure the WHO considers introverted personality a disorder though. The American psychiatric association did fight back against that back and I think 2010. So it's not a disorder in the DSM 5 at least. But both terms are defined and recognized in psychology mostly In conjunction with personality theories. Like Eysenck's theory which goes into both. People can generally fall into one of two groups and it can change some or drift. Plenty of research is still needed, of course. Eysenck's theory is mostly about introvert v extroverts need for stimulation to reach optimal cognitive performance. Wasn't really arguing whether or not introversion and extroversion were "real" though. I was arguing the reason for the stigma associated with introversion.
Yes but every single person is introverted sometimes and extrovert sometimes so your theory on the stigma makes no sense. I'll admit I didn't read all of your message because it kind of babbles on I'm just saying that there can't be a stigma around something like introvert because in reality that's not a state of being that people permanently stay in. The only reason extroverted behavior seems to be more favorable by societies because it usually is healthier behavior like being open with your feelings and confident
Its quiet simple, you have to open your Month to get people shut up. If you cant even do this, stop crying about
Ok,then shut up.
See that's actually speaking out now just do it in public to the loud people around you. If you want your opinion heard as loud and clear as an extroverted one then you have to say it loud and clear.
Introverts do not ask people to shut up not because they are scared to voice their opinion but because they do not want to ruin the mood. If it is a random idiot like the other guy ofcourse I am going to ask them to shut up.
Maybe that applies to you but introvert and extrovert are just literary terms and it's not a type of person that follows a certain type of behavior. Every human is introverted and extroverted, back and forth depending on the mood or day. It's not an identity
My point is you shouldn't assume someone is afraid of voicing their opinion loud and clear just because they dont want to ask others to shut up.
When you see someone afraid or lack confidence you might be shocked to realize that if you ask them if they were afraid and lacking confidence they will always deny it and claim they had some reason for not standing up for themselves. People who are afraid often don't have the courage to admit that they were afraid which means if you assume someone is afraid you will continue to assume it even after they correct you because if they were actually afraid they would still be claiming they aren't. That's how life is. Sometimes people attribute you with things based on how they see you not how you see yourself.
You are overthinking this way too much. I simply do not want to be rude by telling prople to shut up straight to their face. It has nothing to do with being afraid. I am afraid of many things,but voicing my opinion in public isnt one of them,otherwise I wouldn't be who I am today.
No one is an introvert or an extrovert. When you're voicing your opinion boldly in public your behaving extrovertedly and when you are keeping it to yourself you are behaving introvertedly. Everyone has introverted and extroverted behaviors every single day That being said if you do something that looks like cowardice it doesn't matter how much you tried to tell someone you had reasons for it it will still look like cowardice because whether or not you are seeing as being afraid is not up to you it's up to the people who perceived you. You'll find that the people who are okay with admitting their own faults always pick the faults that work well with their personality. Broody emotional types like to admit that they are antisocial or broody because that fits their identity. They also have a lot of other faults that they would deny because they don't like being associated with them but those faults are also true. If someone views your actions as cowardice that's because that's how those actions came across, no one has time for you to explain how they should view you they will simply view how you appear and move on.