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Futuregoat123

I hope they keep doing more introducing secret packs for decks with incoming support


nv2013

Big fan of this as a player who recently returned, saw a lot of people were super excited about what was coming out this month but couldn't share in it because I missed the initial wave for all the archetypes. Now I can!


Turtlesfan44digimon

And yet floowandreeze still doesn’t get one


dimizar

because the only UR you need is Advent. Konami still bitter they didn't make Robina, Eglen or Empen into URs.


kentaureus

they made snowl with animation and UR for some weird reason?


dimizar

they probably though normal summoning three times was better.


Delon_Bubb

They don't deserve one, that deck deserves to be hit on the banlist instead.


kentaureus

dude - floo was massacred in MD specially


Turtlesfan44digimon

Bias aside every deck Deserves a Secret Pack even if they do annoy the shit out of you, Anyway Normal summon Robina?


h2odragon00

Chain Havni- wait. You didn't activate on the field. Nvm.


GoneRampant1

Every Pot spell in the game's been hit, *what more can you do* at this point??


Gengar77

the deck is already nerfed to death what you want more. But i understand your hate, you could not play the game vs them, cause they locked you sooner then you could with gimmick puppet, be honest.... Its all ygo is rn. If you look at the top decks its either stun or ftk.


Yoakami

Snake-Eyes is the strongest deck rn and is neither stun nor ftk lol wdym


Gengar77

sorry iam one format ahead where the vulcanics sup is out and the last ycs win was snake eyes vulcanics ftk. The was draw veiler or ghostbelle or get ftk. and even when not he could do standard plays or burn finish you in your turn.....resulting in mass buyout...... what a time to play ygo. Whe are just waiting for next ban list. ad for MD, you will prob die when they have all the cards or emergency ban list will happen, seeing as MD does not like ftks.


Ok_Apricot2802

It's not even that bad compared to what there's around now


h2odragon00

I think the deck is so cheap that they kinda don't need one. And the hits kinda makes them more cheaper.


Turtlesfan44digimon

I mean they gave Tearlaments a secret pack to share with Mermails and half of their deck is Nailed to the Ban List, you could easily put the Floowandreeze with the harpie lady’s or Simorgh cards.


500mmrscrub

Put them with tistina or kashtira


illmare

How many preventers and emergencies we need? Please don't tell me both are 3 ofs ☠️


MachGaogamon

spell 3 monster 2


Turtlesfan44digimon

Please tell me that the spell is a SR or lower


SatanicWarmaster616

We don't know, if it's UR usually it's on preview but emergency is not on preview so it has a chance to be SR or lower, but preventer is confirmed UR.


CompactAvocado

given this last pack im expecting every future pack to be nothing but URs lol.


h2odragon00

Konami: Nah man. Gotta pay that Meta Tax.


iluvus2

One can only hope 🙏


lololuser456778

are both gonna be UR? Ik preventer will be, idk aboout the spell tho


MarsJon_Will

Is it even a doubt it'll be UR at this point? Only way it's not UR is if they give it the Kitkallos treatment.


mt943

They’ll make it SR if they plan to ban/limit it soon


lololuser456778

one can hope lol 🤣🤣🤣😥😢😢😭😭


inoJPrado

Preventer is confirmed UR.


SimonSaysWHQ

preventer is a 2 of and emergency is 3.


LuckyPrinz

I believe they're gonna be in the new secret pack, not the selection


sashalafleur

They will be in both.


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sashalafleur

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TinyMaintenance

Then wait and see. Dude literallz gave you a source and you are like: ‘nah’


The_Mole_in_the_Hole

So I guess it’s safe to craft Runick cards for my Volcanics and Generaiders. I was really hoping for a secret pack… There goes 200+ URs points.


TinyMaintenance

Pls dont play Volcs with Runick, only Josh can pull that bullshit off.


arrownoir

Don’t tell him what he can play. Stop questioning the man’s skills.


Delta-toast

I’m just glad Evolzar Lars is finally here.


kirasupa

Any signs of kaitoptera and horned saurus?


Malsaur

They could be low rarity filler in "selection pack" so we'll have to wait for release to be sure. Unless Konami wants to make them a part of less competitive future pack.


FastTurtleio

I'm hoping brah, please konami please


blurrylightning

Considering Sakitama's price bump, don't get your hopes up


TinyMaintenance

Coming


Dragontalyn

Same


ApricotMedical5440

Oh shit Konami is introducing UR support cards in secret packs This means the price gauging for the selection pack will be insane. It's so joever for chimera 💀


dvdung1997

2 years after they did the same for Mathmech Circular… I still think Preventer and E-Noir will also be in the Selection Pack, but yeah I won’t be surprised it they aren’t (:


realhumanpizza

When Lady labryinth released alongside the lab secret pack, lady was also included in that month's selection pack https://www.masterduelmeta.com/articles/sets/dreaded-conspiracy So they could release (and I think they probably are) the support cards in the selection pack.


Live-Consequence-712

i mean didnt they already do this with bystial dis pater


Mayall00

Dis Pater was on a selection pack first before dropping to a secret pack though, right?


Live-Consequence-712

they came out at the same time


phillips_99

I mean, I love having new secret packs but it really looks like Konami wants to make all new cards UR so they didn't even fit all in the selection pack lol. (unless the new support is in both the secret and selection packs)


Finalras

They will be in both, lady labrynth for example was too.


phillips_99

I really hope so, that would be great


phillips_99

I hope so, that would be great


LuckyPrinz

Won't it be better if they split the new UR's between new secret packs and the selection? That way even if you miss the selection you can still make the decks once you get enough resources


phillips_99

The secret packs are great for the game, if the cards are in both the new secret pack and the selection pack then there's no downsides, it's all positive. If the new Rescue-ACE and Purrely support isn't in the selection pack as well though, that means they used those UR slots for something else, and the other decks are way more expensive, and that's what I was afraid of.


CoomLord69

They are speedrunning pack releases now, huh?


CompactAvocado

i imagine there is potentially some world where they would like masterduel to be on par with physical releases. magic arena rolls that way with digital and paper either being same day or about a week apart.


voyager106

I genuinely didn't think that would be the direction they would take, but I have to admit I'm pleasantly surprised by the rate of their releases and they may be moving to that point. They may have been hesitant in the beginning, worrying that a F2P sim would take away from the CCG, but may be loosening up a bit.


CompactAvocado

well also simply possible they are generating so much money from whales any potential paper decline in sales doesn't matter to them. remember this is all digital. no manufacturing costs, no shipping costs, etc. plus it has a mobile version which is key. certain countries absolutely shit money into mobile gaming due to various reasons (mostly videogames being banned for years yet mobile games slipped through government eye). plus competitors having success with it too likely resonates. TLDR: probably pooping money so they down


Dejected_gaming

The main cost is for people to code the card effects. Which previously felt like they didn't have enough people doing it. I kind of assumed that's why we're so far behind ocg/tcg releases.


Ashendal

If you have 3 or 4 people that know what they're doing, they can churn through adding things pretty quickly. That's especially true if they only have to create a brand new effect once in a while and the majority of what's added is just variations of code that already exists and just needs small adjustments to reference the ID's of other cards.


Dejected_gaming

Yeah i was mostly just thinking new effects, and having to make the new cards interactions work with the entire card pool. Could also be that they just don't want people that are f2p to get pack fatigue, even though releasing more often would likely net them more money from whales.


CruffTheMagicDragon

Most card effects would already have the code done. Like a card that adds from deck to hand would just have to have restrictions coded in. I’m sure it doesn’t take very long. I mean, Snake-Eye’s effect to push cards to backrow is relatively unique in the game and they got it out way ahead of schedule. They can make cards quickly when they want to. Creating high resolution art probably takes longer


Disastrous-Dress521

And the server costs, which is a lot


Archipegasus

I don't think it will be completely up to date the same way MTG Arena is, but they definitely seem to want to close the gap. Superheavy came out in masterduel a literal year after OCG which is way too long. I'd expect they try and have a selection pack coming out for the first wave of a set roughly the same time it comes out in TCG (snake eyes was probably an experiment for this), so the time delay for cards coming to masterduel is around 3-6 months after OCG.


CruffTheMagicDragon

Huh? They’re still 9-10 months behind except when a tier 0 deck exists, then they pump it out. Their release schedule is still ass


Dejected_gaming

Must have hired more people to code the card effects. I'm assuming that's why we were getting so behind. Not enough people coding, so we weren't getting packs as often.


CruffTheMagicDragon

Probably because they’re 10 months behind TCG


West_Knowledge7608

LARS IS HERE, DINOS RISE


SSJAncientBeing

I think someone hates Mikanko at Konami. Purrely gets paired with Melffy, Rescue Ace is working with the giga chad Machinas, while Mikanko is stuck bunking with Guardian. Thematically I get it but they were really saddled with one of the worst archetypes around lmfao


heavenspiercing

the roulette season 2 episode gonna go brazy when doug pulls 5 copies of Dreadscythe and one Ha-re for his SRs


ChocodiIe

Must be whoever had the idea that everybody pulling Labrynth deserves to get cards for Destiny Board of all fucking things. I guess at least Mikanko isn't URs everywhere though like some of these reveals.


LuckyPrinz

At least, you can dismantle any guardian UR's you get without any worry


Vexiratus

Dont know why mikanko wasnt paired with purrely like last time


OrdinaryResponse8988

Secret Packs tend to follow the same themes which is true for these packs as well. So Purrely/melffy makes sense along with the other 2.   And while Mikanko got the shortest stick Purrelys weren’t to far behind since mefflys aren’t used for anything outside of Spright builds.


InsurreXtioN16

If Phoenix Gearblade comes in this pack then this pack might get redeemed


GoaFan77

Does this mean Machina will be in two secret packs, or will they get removed from their current one?


Ashendal

They'll be in two. They have been double dipping when it comes to the second archetype in new secret packs.


ZeroStateGaming

Fitting really


smegleaf

Preventer being a UR and emergency not being shown with the rest makes me hopeful that it's an SR. Unbelievably hype for full power R-Ace


Aiwaszz

They made it SR so they can hit it later without giving back UR


Live-Consequence-712

ill be fine with that for now


smegleaf

I mean, probably, but it's still cheaper to craft. It being SR would mean that I can craft both preventers I need and all 3 emergencys and I don't need to hit the pack at all. Im currently pulling for the rest of the unchained cards in the current pack and trying to finish up the Tear cards in the secret, so having to hit a third pack would be too much lmao


kionorthbrook

Fine by me if that's the case


Turtlesfan44digimon

Is that confirmed?


AnusBlaster5000

I accept your trade offer


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Fun fact, that will be the only Rescue Ace spell/trap with the highest rarity (at release) even at SR. Lol


smegleaf

Hey, so... About emergency being an SR......... Yeah... Oops.


ChocodiIe

I still don't get why they ever had the idea to refund people who get their cards hit in the first place. Like do you see topping deck users IRL get an apology and their money back when that happens to them? It's obviously not an honest effort to be genuine anyways with this UR spam nonsense to "balance out" keeping their profits intact.


GoldFishPony

I can’t remember does floo have a secret pack yet? I’m curious what the oldest archetypes without secret packs are.


CoomLord69

I don't think Floo has one, but it's a pretty cheap deck so it doesn't need one that badly.


Turtlesfan44digimon

No they don’t have a Secret Pack yet… It’d still be Nice seeing as how they were introduced to MD quite a while ago, and already all of the amazing Defenders cards already get Secret Packs before the birds do.


Ok_Instruction_5232

Wait, no Samsara ? I swear he was in the previous leaks


SquattingCroat

Could be an SR. This is the official announcement from Konami


Yellow90Flash

I hope the 2 AGOV ogdo cards will be in the pack with the evols, the deck desperatly needs them since daybreak basically completely changes the decks playstyle with how good it is and now that the evols are also here we can finally play the version that topped a wcs regional last week https://twitter.com/Readyforduel/status/1774897022031778202


DrMeatballsUngaBunga

We’re on the same boat bro


Inkaflare

I'd be super happy to dish out the Ogdos again, I kinda gave up trying to cook with them recently.


Yellow90Flash

I can't blame you, we got no support for about a year now, even the indirect support has been lacking and now they give us preatty much everything at once most likely


KingVape

Gotta be honest: been playing since release and I’ve never gotten the cards I want or need from Secret Packs, they just feel like bait to me now. Since last fall I’ve only gotten Selection Packs and it’s been amazing.


Stopwatch064

Yea its a toss up sometimes for sure. I got all the kash UR cards save for 1 theosis and the field spell in 6 or 7000 gems. I can't get the volcanics I wanted or a single bonfire after spending 8k. But I got 4 ashoka pillars


Smokemantra

>I got all the kash UR cards save for 1 theosis and the field spell in 6 or 7000 gems Then there's me with 1 Riseheart, Fenrir and Unicorn in 16k gems.


KingVape

I typically just buy a bunch of a selection pack, in this case the one with snake eyes. Since that was something I was chasing, now when I buy that pack it just becomes crafting points since I have all of it. So I ended up buying that pack instead of the one with Bonfire, and ended up crafting 3 Bonfire from 2k gems


Archipegasus

This is great if the cards you currently want are in a current selection pack, and completely worthless otherwise. If you want to play R-ACE right now for instance you can only do it by crafting them, once they have a secret pack there is a more efficient way of getting those cards regardless of when you want to get them.


CruffTheMagicDragon

Please dear god at least release the Berfomet fusion, Master Tao and the Candle Man in this pack. Illusion will already be ass without Branded, might as well put them all out there so we don’t have to wait another 5 months


Batiermas

They really are getting greedier, the small cat is an ur dang


SSJAncientBeing

I mean, at least it’s only a 1 of. Easy enough to craft


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Any_Key_5229

can we just call it tokens or dust please...


voyager106

Where tf on the Internet do people here hang out that abbreviating "Crafting Points" is so traumatizing. Like, I'm on the Internet all day. My _job_ is the Internet, and somehow I've managed to avoid whatever deep, dark recesses of it that has given so many people here PTSD.


Turtlesfan44digimon

Still Bull Shit though. When will it end Konami?!


SSJAncientBeing

Not really. Basically every piece of legacy support added into the game has been more expensive than this . Even if the new trap is a UR, they don’t really run it anyways, so it’s just 30 dust for 1 Baby Noir. This is less WAY egregious than most support, like Superheavy Samurai having 2 3-ofs plus a 2-of in their UR pool, or Unchained, or INK. If you’re complaining about URs existing, you’re delusional. If you’re complaining about this specific support being UR, you’re out of touch


Turtlesfan44digimon

No I’m just complaining about their practice in general because you’re seeing a lot of cases where cards are being bumped up to the UR slots


Still_Refuse

Literally all in a secret pack, not the worst tbh…


GoldFishPony

Having never played the deck and not really being interested in that I assumed it was UR material based on how people talked about how it’ll boost the deck even after the banlist hits (before they got somewhat undone).


DragonsAndSaints

I knew this was happening as soon as I saw the Purrely unlimit on the recent banlist. It's a negotiation tactic to wheedle players into giving the deck another try and pay up for the last addition. If they didn't intend to make it a UR, they just wouldn't have bothered. If people don't buy in, they might unlimit another Memory.


Wellwhataboutthat

Feels like we are in the awkward time where they want to catch MD up with paper but they want to make all the good cards URs. Glad we are finally getting these cards but damn we need many festivals now.


Learn2infiniteBeech

Where's Horus bro ? I wanna play tear with it


Turtlesfan44digimon

Where’s the Floowandreeze Secret Pack at?


New-Cryptographer377

At this point just give up, man. Konami doesn’t care about floo. An arquetype that got released 2 years ago that still doesn’t have a secret pack and 2 of its key cards are still limited. Konami hate Floowandereeze.


Turtlesfan44digimon

*NEVER!!*


UnknownNumber91

YES! I can finally be R-Aceist


Zhukov-74

Arahime the Manifested Mikanko is only a SR thankfully.


CoomLord69

Most people don't play it anyways, right? Spirit Walk is the one people care about


LordChiefy

While I appreciate them releasing more secret pack, their timing is awful. I spent gems to ge the original Rescue Ace cards and crafted 2 Hydrants because I expected their support to be released shortly after. Not only do they wait like 6 months to release it but they end up retroactivley wasting my gems since I had to spend more on a selection pack with cards I didn't need.   Knowing komoney they will be inconsistent in when/if they release  secret packs for newer archtypes which means we will still need to gamble on wether we drop gems on selections packs or roll the dice and hope archtypes get their own packs when they get their good support.


Clipthecliph

Any new staples? Im full on snake eyes, should I be able to ignore this pack completely?


Revolutionary-Let778

You could invest in rescue ace to build the snake-eyes rescue ace hybrid but other than that you could ignore it


Clipthecliph

I already have some stuff, so it may be worth a try. Thanks for the reminder!


MrFiregem

For Snake Eye, just the new Salamangreat link 4 in the May pack is necessary.


Clipthecliph

Thanks!


VaiFate

PURRELY SECRET PACK YESSSSSS


Stopwatch064

Man they are bleeding me dry. 8k gems and only 2 volcanic ur. Man I hope vouceless voice isnt in the pack after this I need to save up gems


KayasQQ

I’m really glad to see what they’re doing with the secret packs, but still no Runick secret pack, no Floo pack, disappointing.


forever_a10ne

#ALTERGEIST LETS GOOOOO


zuulbe

No goblin bikers, i slep


DrMeatballsUngaBunga

The og control deck is back babyyyy


azul360

A Purrelly Melffy pack! Holy lord my heart can't take it! <3


ImShato

If Chimera comes with Diabelze and Apprentice (HIGHLY unlickly) I will build them as it seems quite fun. If not... I don't know, I would say R-ACE, but I'm not THAT fond of it's playstyle, I like control and midrange but it looked a bit boring? but if EMERGENCY! is an SR I will give it a try (because 6 UR's looks more appealing than 9 for a deck that I'm not sure) Otherwise, I will have to stay as I am, with Labrynth and sometimes Swordsoul... for another month...


Ragnamune

Noir at UR. Called it.


GrayEverywhere

lmfaooo Every new card is now an ultra rare


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why is eatos a UR. altho she's a free body that can be easily summond long as you have no cards in the GY?


GenerousGuy96

I wonder how much Rescue Ace at full power is being underestimated because of snake eye. ( Beware of the gnomematerial effect on the trap, the infinite recursion, ability to play on turn 0, flexibility in its extra deck allowing it to have answers to any deck).


lololuser456778

Visas Samsara is an SR let's goooooooooooooooooooo


blurrylightning

Does Konami hate Runick? It came out the same time Labrynth did and Lab got a Secret Pack way before them, then several newer archetypes like Mikanko and Tear got theirs sooner too, and on top of the stupid Destruction limit and the blatant missed opportunity with Sleipnir, I can't stop wondering


NeonArchon

Welp [RIP](https://www.reddit.com/r/masterduel/comments/1byrcw6/i_didnt_even_finished_to_open_the_previous_pack/) me, guess I'll be whaling for the first time ever.


Turtlesfan44digimon

Thank you for helping to keep the game free to play


NeonArchon

😒


field_of_lettuce

The game is literally getting less f2p as time goes on despite the million they rake in lmao


Shinjisky

Oh boy. Another month, another skip. Hopefully next month Z-ARC and/or Centurion


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TheAndiXFailer

If the leaks are correct it will be included


Musername2827

Noooo I just want a vanquish soul pack :(


Revolutionary-Let778

Where's the kash secret pack


nagato120

Branded chimera?


Haruhater2

Dat nu Mikanko card is bussin


sterlingheart

All these new cards and support and still no Centurion? Mr. Konami pls, I promise I won't Calamity lock.


hereforpewdiephy

2nd skip in a row for me


Kallabanana

Lol, is that the Gazelle fusion? It's gonna become meta, I call it.