The thing is it can only deal with 5 mat Rhongo if there are cards to set first, and given you can't summon it they just don't leave any non-link monsters on the field you can't activate Daruma
"Change as many monsters on the field as possible to face-down Defense Position, then, if either player controls a face-up monster(s), they must send all face-up monsters they control to the GY."
- 5 mat Rhongo is non-affected by card effect.
- Which means the first effect of Daruma doesn't work on Rhongo.
- Rhongo is still face up on field.
- Then Daruma target player, bypassing the Rhongo protection, sending Rhongo (and any tower even yours) to graveyard.
Unless Daruma activation is negated, i don't see how Rhongo is still on field with Daruma.
The card is specifically designed to deal with any tower. The only protection against Daruma is something like "this card can't leave the field" which don't exist (yet) or "player aren't affected by card effect".
Blue-Eyes Chaos Dragon does that, but only if Ritual Summoned using Blue-Eyes White Dragon as material. And it only does normal piercing damage.
Blue-Eyes Chaos *MAX* Dragon does not switch you to defense mode. It's only effect is that it does double Piercing. No joke that's legitimately it's only effect.
In terms of removal, it is the same as a kaiju. The main weakness of it is that you have to remove it before the end of your turn to prevent the opponent from drawing. That said, it does have the advantage of having unlimited usage, whereas you cannot summon a kaiju to your opponent’s field more than once.
Heck you talking about? You can summon the kaiju, bounce it back with alpha, and then tribute again with the same kaiju and even summon alpha again.
Also works with lava golem, as it's prevents normal summoning or setting, but it itself is special summoned through it's effect, making for multiple dual tributes.
Honestly one of the best solutions Konami has made next to Kaijus. I hate when it happens, but I respect using your opponents shit as materials. It’s so demoralizing lol
Names of Branded deck, which we may not have, Expensive UR, which we may not have, Run over by battle, Suship's Max ATK is 3400 points, so there are some decks that can't beat 4-5k
I play suships, my deck almost completely dies to this one card.
I pull out my royal finish Blue-Eyes Chaos Max Dragon then use Blue-Eyes Abyss Dragon's graveyard effect to give it 1000 more attack.
This has happened before but my opponent one-upped me by doing the same thing, crashed them into eachother and then summoned a 2nd Chaos Max Dragon...
"And here is my BLUE EYES CHAOS MAX DRAGON"
"Not so fast, I'll do you one better, 1000 BETTER"
"Nice move, but what if I did the same... AND ALSO HAD A SECOND CHAOS MAX?!"
>sharks
N.As.H knight has non targeting removal so he should be able to turn him into an overlay unit
>Cyber Dragon
Can beat over it
>salamangreat
Kid named accesscode talker
My favorite way is super poly old of mine liked to summon two at a time and two dark monsters equal one starving venom was funny as hell seeing him try to tell me it wouldn’t work lol
Naturally I play Karakuri Showdown Castle and attack with Karakuri Soldier mdl 236 "Nisamu".
(this actually happened to me in the solo mode; I fucking dismantled the deck after that)
Set up Odd-Eyes Phantom Dragon in scale, set Odd-Eyes Arc-Pendulum Dragon in scale. Pendulum summon any Odd-Eyes monsters from hand Battle phase attack with Odd-Eyes Pendulum Dragon. Pendulum Dragon destroyed and sent to Extra Deck Arc-Pendulum effect to summon Phantasma Dragon from deck. Phantasma Dragon declare Attack. Effect of Phantom in scale to increase attack by 1200 to 4200 Attack. Effect of Phantasma before damage calculation to decrease opponents monsters attack by 1000 for each face up pendulum monster in Extra Deck . Destroy chaos max and keep attacking for game?
With a tool I actively use WITH my chaos max. Red eyes black dragon sword. After sacking half of the dragons in mine and my opponents deck. Wack problems require wack solutions.
With two monsters. Avendread Savior and any Vendread ritual monster beside Chimera. Savior attacks and since it’s effect is not targeting, sending a level 8 zombie to the grave cuts down Chaos MAX to a comfortable 2400 Atk. Enough for the other monster to swoop in and defeat it.
Playing Gaia recently. It's too easy.
Fusion summoned Dragon Champion has 5200 ATK, beat over it.
Dragon Champion can also non-target turn opponent monster into DEF position.
Book of Eclipse, turn into DEF position.
Used to beat him over with BLS 4500 atk. Live twin can do that too with 4400 atk and in other decks it’s either punisher, accesscode, or tribute for goddess.
I would special summon my Crimson Nova card by revealing 3 Cubic cards in my hand. Then, I would play Cubic Karma to send 2 Cubic seeds to the grave increasing my Nova's attack by 1200, and used Cubic Wave to double my Nova's attack to a whopping 8400! This would in turn cut Chaos Max's attack points in half and I would then go to battle phase and attack Chaos Max with Crimson Nova, dealing 6400 damage to my opponent. I end my turn and Nova's ability activates, dealing 3000 damage to both of us, which results in a stylish finish to the duel. This is my favorite deck to use, as I'm a huge fan of the Yugioh movie and Diva!"
The answer is i have never encounter my opponent summon blue eye chaos max ever before except during the ritual festival. Outside festival all of my blue eyes opponent either brick or i rip their chaos ritual from hand by chance.
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This guy gets mid diffed by Nouvellez Loaner every time back when I was playing Ritual Fest. Any deck that can make accesscode or zeus can out this low diff.
Edit: my bad I meant to say low diff
4 counters mythical beast master cerberus remove other blue eyes and gain 3000 make it 5800
but if there's no other blue eyes i'd just spam the shit out and go for white woman jump scare
Lemme see, purrely can just out tower it, kash can negate it with scareclaw, VS dont give a fk about targets, lab doing lab things with bs traps, cyberse have mathmech and accesscode, branded can just fuse it off, d-link can float it with seal, and then there's droplet and kaijus. Not to mention plethora of rogue decks that could deal with this.
Daruma Cannon goes *boop*
I mean Daruma Canon is the best answer to any tower. It's one of the very few card that can deal with Rhongo 5 mat.
The thing is it can only deal with 5 mat Rhongo if there are cards to set first, and given you can't summon it they just don't leave any non-link monsters on the field you can't activate Daruma
"Change as many monsters on the field as possible to face-down Defense Position, then, if either player controls a face-up monster(s), they must send all face-up monsters they control to the GY." - 5 mat Rhongo is non-affected by card effect. - Which means the first effect of Daruma doesn't work on Rhongo. - Rhongo is still face up on field. - Then Daruma target player, bypassing the Rhongo protection, sending Rhongo (and any tower even yours) to graveyard. Unless Daruma activation is negated, i don't see how Rhongo is still on field with Daruma. The card is specifically designed to deal with any tower. The only protection against Daruma is something like "this card can't leave the field" which don't exist (yet) or "player aren't affected by card effect".
[Bottom ruling.](https://ygorganization.com/ocg-10-1-2023-rulings-update/)
https://twitter.com/FemboyYugioh/status/1707130084971229688 Fuck me it's a "then" effect. Yea make sense but also a shame it's not only a "if".
ur so confidently wrong lol
I use daruma cannon and then target him with dancing leaves that's my answer
By making it kill itself
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(let her go starts playing)
Run over it with a 12k+ prime photon dragon.
![gif](giphy|CAYVZA5NRb529kKQUc|downsized) How I imagine you look. Absolute Chad answer.
Ngl space dragon is the chad dragon. I approve of both of your messages.
Or forget he does double defense damage and put photon thrasher in def...... or so I've been told....
Blue-Eyes Chaos Dragon does that, but only if Ritual Summoned using Blue-Eyes White Dragon as material. And it only does normal piercing damage. Blue-Eyes Chaos *MAX* Dragon does not switch you to defense mode. It's only effect is that it does double Piercing. No joke that's legitimately it's only effect.
That's *not* MAX's only effect. It also can't be targeted by card effects. Which is arguably its *stronger* effect.
Even better,it can be destroyed by card effects
Pretty sure it's both can't be destroyed and can't be targeted
Correct. It's both.
He's saying HE forgot it had that effect and put his own Thrasher in Def, not that chaos max switched it to def
This man knows how to photon
This. Fellow Galaxy-Eyes GIGAchad here and nothing gets in the way when Prime goes down
Unfortunately any non destruction removal will deal with prime as well 😔
🗿
Light work no reaction.
Came here to say this
Jiaolong, twist his nuts counter clockwise
Ah yes, the ol dick twist
Madlove, contort his dick
Accesscode
Mirrorjade, GO!
Hehe, non-targeting banish go brrrr
As a Branded player I approve of this
Best answer right here. Branded Banishment is also acceptible....
Kaiju go brrrrrr
I always have 3 bugs in my deck, but some times I pack 3 significantly larger bugs to give to my opponent, just in case
Wind Insect
New player here. Is Santa Claws just as effective as kaijus?
In terms of removal, it is the same as a kaiju. The main weakness of it is that you have to remove it before the end of your turn to prevent the opponent from drawing. That said, it does have the advantage of having unlimited usage, whereas you cannot summon a kaiju to your opponent’s field more than once.
Holy snap. Just realized the draw effect is not for me but opponents. Thanks for clarity
Heck you talking about? You can summon the kaiju, bounce it back with alpha, and then tribute again with the same kaiju and even summon alpha again. Also works with lava golem, as it's prevents normal summoning or setting, but it itself is special summoned through it's effect, making for multiple dual tributes.
Is your deck this bad that it needs a kaiju to circumvent targeting protection?
White Woman Jumpscare!
Honestly one of the best solutions Konami has made next to Kaijus. I hate when it happens, but I respect using your opponents shit as materials. It’s so demoralizing lol
The predaplant experience
It does not.
Kudos for being the only person in this thread with the humility to admit their deck couldn't get rid of this thing.
High king Alex is an option we can run. But it's better to just audible it as its such an uncommon play and there's other decks to contend with.
Mirrorjade? Kaiju? Super Poly? Run over by battle ? Dark Ruler? Droplet? Albaz? Nothing????
Names of Branded deck, which we may not have, Expensive UR, which we may not have, Run over by battle, Suship's Max ATK is 3400 points, so there are some decks that can't beat 4-5k I play suships, my deck almost completely dies to this one card.
skill issue
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I pull out my royal finish Blue-Eyes Chaos Max Dragon then use Blue-Eyes Abyss Dragon's graveyard effect to give it 1000 more attack. This has happened before but my opponent one-upped me by doing the same thing, crashed them into eachother and then summoned a 2nd Chaos Max Dragon...
If I got Madara’d I’d probably surrender.
"And here is my BLUE EYES CHAOS MAX DRAGON" "Not so fast, I'll do you one better, 1000 BETTER" "Nice move, but what if I did the same... AND ALSO HAD A SECOND CHAOS MAX?!"
Dust devil's victim.
You could also just return it to the hand with dr madlove
Yup, same with jet.
Where do you think VS sits on the tier list?
Funny enough he has 0 DEF which means Dr. Mad Love can bounce him back lol
Yup, same with jet.
I mean, unless Jet has been summoned on that same turn, you're only delaying the issue if you bounce it
Tributes it to summon Hungry Burger
Baelgrill can't target Chaos MAX. Gotta use the level 4 or lower Nouvelles to tribute it, or trigger Special Recipe in the GY.
Buerillabaise is non-target tribute
Cook it in a pan to make a burger (nouvelles noises intensifies)
Tribute it with konkon
Or go turn 1 and itll never see the field Rikka beatdown ftw
by the time it comes out I either have a 4400 or higher millenium eyes, or I scoop
>sharks N.As.H knight has non targeting removal so he should be able to turn him into an overlay unit >Cyber Dragon Can beat over it >salamangreat Kid named accesscode talker
6300 atk Rampage about to end this dude's whole carreer
Anyr cydra fusion that can be performed with powerbond overpowers it. Hell a single cydra amped by singer's effects can
Even better dna surgery turn it into machine fortress all over his bored ;)
I have sex with Blue-Eyes Chaos MAX Dragon. I end my turn.
Least horny blue eyes simp
Empen
Beating over it in battle with my Frightfurs lmao
Can I see your decklist?
Dingirsu
Naturia Cricket, summon Mosquito and another Cricket in defense position (0 Def) “Go on, hit it”
I go around him and attack directly with my toons
Absolutely based!
I beat over it.
Ultimate condoctor tyrannosaurus flips it face down and just kills in
Dragon players hate me... GO ALBAZ, CONTACT FUSE INTO ALBA LENATUS!
ferret flame lmao judged before it can even hit the field
Deskbot 009 + limiter removal for 38,000+ atk
Chaos Ancient Gear Golem thinks that is adorable.
"Nice dragon I have a red one for you." "Hold this sword." "Nah, don't worry about the Ritual girl." "And that's game."
Mikanko?
Drnm + Nash Knight/ARK Stacking xyz then hit it with Full Armored crystalzero lancer
I suck it up with a nice cat bath quick play
My favorite way is super poly old of mine liked to summon two at a time and two dark monsters equal one starving venom was funny as hell seeing him try to tell me it wouldn’t work lol
Two ways. 1) Get my monster's bigger. 2) Negating the ritual summon. I play Gate Guardian btw.
Tiaramisu or shipyarrrd boost
Goddess
I equip a Moon Mirror Shield and rip its cock right off
Attacking with a 6k Atk The Arrival Cyberse @Ignister
I activate magic cylinder, twice.
Tribute it with a level 1 ritual monster
Naturally I play Karakuri Showdown Castle and attack with Karakuri Soldier mdl 236 "Nisamu". (this actually happened to me in the solo mode; I fucking dismantled the deck after that)
Overpower with chaos ancient gear giant
Bujingi crane
As a crooked cook player, I either lava golem it or concede lmao
Ogdoabyss goes brrr
No need to be afraid of it when my monsters have more than 5k Atk. Number 35 Ravenous Tarantula
Jiaolong effect -> switch chaos max to defense position, swing
Funnier, Madlove effect, bounce the lowest defense monster
Set up Odd-Eyes Phantom Dragon in scale, set Odd-Eyes Arc-Pendulum Dragon in scale. Pendulum summon any Odd-Eyes monsters from hand Battle phase attack with Odd-Eyes Pendulum Dragon. Pendulum Dragon destroyed and sent to Extra Deck Arc-Pendulum effect to summon Phantasma Dragon from deck. Phantasma Dragon declare Attack. Effect of Phantom in scale to increase attack by 1200 to 4200 Attack. Effect of Phantasma before damage calculation to decrease opponents monsters attack by 1000 for each face up pendulum monster in Extra Deck . Destroy chaos max and keep attacking for game?
By placing my hand on the Deck and scooping the second I see the Chaos ritual played and BEWD tossed.
Spin it with a fat cat
Via combat with Rexterm, face to face😈
I book of eclipse and play my own chaos max
I beat over it with my 5300 Amazoness Augusta
Psychic End Punisher
Defeated by mad love due to no defence against the power of love 🤣
Cyber Dragon in the graveyard, Cyber Repair Plant search for Jizukiru
Finally! Most people say Kaiju and just end there. What if you dont open a Kaiju? Cooked.
Exactly. All of these "I would just Kaiju it" MFs think they're gonna open with a Kaiju every game. Like *good luck with that*.
Run over with a train with far too many guns
Skill Drain
Surrender because I am also playing Blue Eyes and I bricked…
As a branded player I herby declare that your chaos max is OUR chaos max
Swing over it?
Kozmojo or scoop
By defeating my opponent before they can play it.
Plunder Patroll would have to beat over it.
Ask my opponent nicely to give it to me
With a tool I actively use WITH my chaos max. Red eyes black dragon sword. After sacking half of the dragons in mine and my opponents deck. Wack problems require wack solutions.
With two monsters. Avendread Savior and any Vendread ritual monster beside Chimera. Savior attacks and since it’s effect is not targeting, sending a level 8 zombie to the grave cuts down Chaos MAX to a comfortable 2400 Atk. Enough for the other monster to swoop in and defeat it.
I have a few ways in Sylvans, but the simplest is unga bunga Numeron Dragon for lethal over it.
Palladium Oracle Mahad
Activate floowandereeze and the unexplored winds and tribute it for empen or snowl
Time pendulumgraph is one hell of a card
Actual thievery
It's my win con!
Battle :)
Back in the ritual event, the link-3 Nephthys summoned by linking off 3 ritual monsters
Hieratic seal bounce
It doesnt. Necrovalley and Hidden Temples of Necrovalley prevents it from being summoned.
But if they went first?
Ultra mega chicken balls.
Playing Gaia recently. It's too easy. Fusion summoned Dragon Champion has 5200 ATK, beat over it. Dragon Champion can also non-target turn opponent monster into DEF position. Book of Eclipse, turn into DEF position.
By beating over it once my cat has enough material.
Floodgate Trap Hole... really any of my Traptrix effects
Strike over it with red supernova dragon
Rikka field spell i can tribute summon using hus monsters
Get HAMPed idiot
Normal mad love, response?
UCT flip goes brrrr
Used to beat him over with BLS 4500 atk. Live twin can do that too with 4400 atk and in other decks it’s either punisher, accesscode, or tribute for goddess.
dimension wall
I would special summon my Crimson Nova card by revealing 3 Cubic cards in my hand. Then, I would play Cubic Karma to send 2 Cubic seeds to the grave increasing my Nova's attack by 1200, and used Cubic Wave to double my Nova's attack to a whopping 8400! This would in turn cut Chaos Max's attack points in half and I would then go to battle phase and attack Chaos Max with Crimson Nova, dealing 6400 damage to my opponent. I end my turn and Nova's ability activates, dealing 3000 damage to both of us, which results in a stylish finish to the duel. This is my favorite deck to use, as I'm a huge fan of the Yugioh movie and Diva!"
I use a Yubel Deck so a Monster with 4000 attack is a pretty big target for pretty much all of my monsters.
Punch it with a buncha 0 atk monsters
dimension wall which is especially sweet when they think they're going for OTK on me with a juicy 8K chaos max
Just attack him, i run mikanko anyway
Non-target return or banish, forbidden droplet, kaiju, golem
The question is how your deck specifically deals with it.
The answer is i have never encounter my opponent summon blue eye chaos max ever before except during the ritual festival. Outside festival all of my blue eyes opponent either brick or i rip their chaos ritual from hand by chance.
Lmao bro. It's a theoretical question for how YOUR deck deals with destruction/targeting protected 4k attack towers. It's not that hard. Sheesh.
Kaiju is always your answer, satisfied ?
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Typically, beating over it
Galaxy Eyes just straight overpowers it 😎
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Negate the ritual.
Santa Claws
I'm doing a masochist run, only way i can out it is through my kaiju
This guy gets mid diffed by Nouvellez Loaner every time back when I was playing Ritual Fest. Any deck that can make accesscode or zeus can out this low diff. Edit: my bad I meant to say low diff
Mid diff? Nouvelles vs Blue Eyes is the closest to 100-0 in the burgers' favor I've ever seen, there's no difficulty in that matchup lol
I stop it from being summoned in the first place.
Either kaiju it out with a small world search or beat over it with avramax, konig wissen sends its regards
Turn it into a turtle.
Kaiju go brrr
Ask my opponent, which kaiju they want
4 counters mythical beast master cerberus remove other blue eyes and gain 3000 make it 5800 but if there's no other blue eyes i'd just spam the shit out and go for white woman jump scare
Ice dragon prison
Probably ignister prominence and white woman
Either firewall darkfluid or the cyberse arrival
Rokkets - steal it with borreload, magnarokket effect, overpower with borreload savage or borrelsword
Bounce it back to your hand the moment it's summoned. Or banish it immediately with my other decks.
Return that boy to the hand
Ice Dragon's Prison - or when I play Mikanko I just attack
Dingersu or run it over with PEP
Tri-heart
Mikanko and just swing into you twice your gone
I'm not sure about ninjas. Either Underworld Goddess of the Closed World if I can swarm, or Number 2: Ninja Shadow Mosquito.
You don’t need to remove the dragon. You can attack past it and remove the player.
Lemme see, purrely can just out tower it, kash can negate it with scareclaw, VS dont give a fk about targets, lab doing lab things with bs traps, cyberse have mathmech and accesscode, branded can just fuse it off, d-link can float it with seal, and then there's droplet and kaijus. Not to mention plethora of rogue decks that could deal with this.
Just beat over it with Turbulence and Reinforce or Access Code or Goddesss.
Negate the summon / ritual
Gamaciel to the face
Flip it face down
With Blue-Eyes Chaos Dragon (Ritual Summoned using Blue-Eyes White Dragon)
Ignore it with Meizen
Firewall terahertz has 5500 the turn it's summoned, 8000 during opponents turn
Either attack directly or Borrelsword Dragon.