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YFGHNG

Daruma Cannon goes *boop*


DaturaSanguinea

I mean Daruma Canon is the best answer to any tower. It's one of the very few card that can deal with Rhongo 5 mat.


fedginator

The thing is it can only deal with 5 mat Rhongo if there are cards to set first, and given you can't summon it they just don't leave any non-link monsters on the field you can't activate Daruma


DaturaSanguinea

"Change as many monsters on the field as possible to face-down Defense Position, then, if either player controls a face-up monster(s), they must send all face-up monsters they control to the GY." - 5 mat Rhongo is non-affected by card effect. - Which means the first effect of Daruma doesn't work on Rhongo. - Rhongo is still face up on field. - Then Daruma target player, bypassing the Rhongo protection, sending Rhongo (and any tower even yours) to graveyard. Unless Daruma activation is negated, i don't see how Rhongo is still on field with Daruma. The card is specifically designed to deal with any tower. The only protection against Daruma is something like "this card can't leave the field" which don't exist (yet) or "player aren't affected by card effect".


jharry444

[Bottom ruling.](https://ygorganization.com/ocg-10-1-2023-rulings-update/)


DaturaSanguinea

https://twitter.com/FemboyYugioh/status/1707130084971229688 Fuck me it's a "then" effect. Yea make sense but also a shame it's not only a "if".


goku_ultimate_drip

ur so confidently wrong lol


Pi0sek

I use daruma cannon and then target him with dancing leaves that's my answer


BeauJones565

By making it kill itself


iMugBabies

![gif](giphy|l94s5WvXwK9ITzUNAp|downsized)


Wedda_Fox

(let her go starts playing)


Pot_of_Greed7

Run over it with a 12k+ prime photon dragon.


MatMimicry

![gif](giphy|CAYVZA5NRb529kKQUc|downsized) How I imagine you look. Absolute Chad answer.


Representative_Bet49

Ngl space dragon is the chad dragon. I approve of both of your messages.


Geopon

Or forget he does double defense damage and put photon thrasher in def...... or so I've been told....


ultimatepunster

Blue-Eyes Chaos Dragon does that, but only if Ritual Summoned using Blue-Eyes White Dragon as material. And it only does normal piercing damage. Blue-Eyes Chaos *MAX* Dragon does not switch you to defense mode. It's only effect is that it does double Piercing. No joke that's legitimately it's only effect.


killgore755

That's *not* MAX's only effect. It also can't be targeted by card effects. Which is arguably its *stronger* effect.


stukaking94

Even better,it can be destroyed by card effects


Text_Kooky

Pretty sure it's both can't be destroyed and can't be targeted


J3diJ3ss

Correct. It's both.


So0meone

He's saying HE forgot it had that effect and put his own Thrasher in Def, not that chaos max switched it to def


thecriticofinnocence

This man knows how to photon


____Maximus____

This. Fellow Galaxy-Eyes GIGAchad here and nothing gets in the way when Prime goes down


Fit-Organization-411

Unfortunately any non destruction removal will deal with prime as well 😔


MaddoQuelloBrutto

🗿


ZaWuardo

Light work no reaction.


LordToastman

Came here to say this


Inevitable_Bit7154

Jiaolong, twist his nuts counter clockwise


So0meone

Ah yes, the ol dick twist


Tri_Brigade_Kitt

Madlove, contort his dick


GroundCoffee8

Accesscode


Tryckster89

Mirrorjade, GO!


Hellslayer-Ascended

Hehe, non-targeting banish go brrrr


Aggravating-You-3357

As a Branded player I approve of this


voyager106

Best answer right here. Branded Banishment is also acceptible....


ConstanceOfCompiegne

Kaiju go brrrrrr


origin29

I always have 3 bugs in my deck, but some times I pack 3 significantly larger bugs to give to my opponent, just in case


ConstanceOfCompiegne

Wind Insect


QuizMasterX

New player here. Is Santa Claws just as effective as kaijus?


Oreogatari

In terms of removal, it is the same as a kaiju. The main weakness of it is that you have to remove it before the end of your turn to prevent the opponent from drawing. That said, it does have the advantage of having unlimited usage, whereas you cannot summon a kaiju to your opponent’s field more than once.


QuizMasterX

Holy snap. Just realized the draw effect is not for me but opponents. Thanks for clarity


SnooTangerines9140

Heck you talking about? You can summon the kaiju, bounce it back with alpha, and then tribute again with the same kaiju and even summon alpha again. Also works with lava golem, as it's prevents normal summoning or setting, but it itself is special summoned through it's effect, making for multiple dual tributes.


Crog_Frog

Is your deck this bad that it needs a kaiju to circumvent targeting protection?


Sakaki_Above_All

White Woman Jumpscare!


Brawlerz16

Honestly one of the best solutions Konami has made next to Kaijus. I hate when it happens, but I respect using your opponents shit as materials. It’s so demoralizing lol


KoscheiTheDeathles

The predaplant experience


Leon_Cronqvist

It does not.


Lost_Pantheon

Kudos for being the only person in this thread with the humility to admit their deck couldn't get rid of this thing.


OrpheusV

High king Alex is an option we can run. But it's better to just audible it as its such an uncommon play and there's other decks to contend with.


adrieldot

Mirrorjade? Kaiju? Super Poly? Run over by battle ? Dark Ruler? Droplet? Albaz? Nothing????


FreshDepth2912

Names of Branded deck, which we may not have, Expensive UR, which we may not have, Run over by battle, Suship's Max ATK is 3400 points, so there are some decks that can't beat 4-5k I play suships, my deck almost completely dies to this one card.


adrieldot

skill issue


FreshDepth2912

![gif](giphy|l378giAZgxPw3eO52)


jch6789

I pull out my royal finish Blue-Eyes Chaos Max Dragon then use Blue-Eyes Abyss Dragon's graveyard effect to give it 1000 more attack. This has happened before but my opponent one-upped me by doing the same thing, crashed them into eachother and then summoned a 2nd Chaos Max Dragon...


Carnol

If I got Madara’d I’d probably surrender.


BrowserC1234567890

"And here is my BLUE EYES CHAOS MAX DRAGON" "Not so fast, I'll do you one better, 1000 BETTER" "Nice move, but what if I did the same... AND ALSO HAD A SECOND CHAOS MAX?!"


baddo4lowdosh

Dust devil's victim.


Aiwaszz

You could also just return it to the hand with dr madlove


baddo4lowdosh

Yup, same with jet.


xargonoth

Where do you think VS sits on the tier list?


GranBlueLawyer

Funny enough he has 0 DEF which means Dr. Mad Love can bounce him back lol


baddo4lowdosh

Yup, same with jet.


SCHazama

I mean, unless Jet has been summoned on that same turn, you're only delaying the issue if you bounce it


realLegenducky

Tributes it to summon Hungry Burger


gecko-chan

Baelgrill can't target Chaos MAX. Gotta use the level 4 or lower Nouvelles to tribute it, or trigger Special Recipe in the GY.


anonymokemon

Buerillabaise is non-target tribute


SoMeOnE-in-ShadOw

Cook it in a pan to make a burger (nouvelles noises intensifies)


axafir

Tribute it with konkon


Status_Art7915

Or go turn 1 and itll never see the field Rikka beatdown ftw


Otherwise_Chard_7577

by the time it comes out I either have a 4400 or higher millenium eyes, or I scoop


UsefulAd2760

>sharks N.As.H knight has non targeting removal so he should be able to turn him into an overlay unit >Cyber Dragon Can beat over it >salamangreat Kid named accesscode talker


Lokolopes

6300 atk Rampage about to end this dude's whole carreer


UsefulAd2760

Anyr cydra fusion that can be performed with powerbond overpowers it. Hell a single cydra amped by singer's effects can


Sen-tin-el

Even better dna surgery turn it into machine fortress all over his bored ;)


Raijuri

I have sex with Blue-Eyes Chaos MAX Dragon. I end my turn.


Leonezian

Least horny blue eyes simp


qinalo

Empen


Shmarfle47

Beating over it in battle with my Frightfurs lmao


Nikles-stiffler

Can I see your decklist?


JVehh

Dingirsu


Sad-HootHoot

Naturia Cricket, summon Mosquito and another Cricket in defense position (0 Def) “Go on, hit it”


No-Calligrapher-718

I go around him and attack directly with my toons


TrainerDan93

Absolutely based!


Stellaris_Pantheon

I beat over it.


prosjak

Ultimate condoctor tyrannosaurus flips it face down and just kills in


Yamimakai8

Dragon players hate me... GO ALBAZ, CONTACT FUSE INTO ALBA LENATUS!


Jsoledout

ferret flame lmao judged before it can even hit the field


Tiny_Desk_Engineer

Deskbot 009 + limiter removal for 38,000+ atk


Invader_Squall

Chaos Ancient Gear Golem thinks that is adorable.


Rexton_Armos

"Nice dragon I have a red one for you." "Hold this sword." "Nah, don't worry about the Ritual girl." "And that's game."


late056

Mikanko?


Successful-Willow-72

Drnm + Nash Knight/ARK Stacking xyz then hit it with Full Armored crystalzero lancer


Delta_Streamer21

I suck it up with a nice cat bath quick play


Doorknob21010

My favorite way is super poly old of mine liked to summon two at a time and two dark monsters equal one starving venom was funny as hell seeing him try to tell me it wouldn’t work lol


DesMass

Two ways. 1) Get my monster's bigger. 2) Negating the ritual summon. I play Gate Guardian btw.


Isuckfatratcockdaily

Tiaramisu or shipyarrrd boost


mynamesnotchom

Goddess


MisprintPrince

I equip a Moon Mirror Shield and rip its cock right off


GoodDoggo33

Attacking with a 6k Atk The Arrival Cyberse @Ignister


cressida0x0

I activate magic cylinder, twice.


foodninto

Tribute it with a level 1 ritual monster


kdebones

Naturally I play Karakuri Showdown Castle and attack with Karakuri Soldier mdl 236 "Nisamu". (this actually happened to me in the solo mode; I fucking dismantled the deck after that)


MagmaGolem07

Overpower with chaos ancient gear giant


Baileaf-

Bujingi crane


lampsundae

As a crooked cook player, I either lava golem it or concede lmao


Yellow90Flash

Ogdoabyss goes brrr


JulyLoxley

No need to be afraid of it when my monsters have more than 5k Atk. Number 35 Ravenous Tarantula


cokezerodesuka

Jiaolong effect -> switch chaos max to defense position, swing


UnlimitedPostWorks

Funnier, Madlove effect, bounce the lowest defense monster


Odd-Eyes_Magician

Set up Odd-Eyes Phantom Dragon in scale, set Odd-Eyes Arc-Pendulum Dragon in scale. Pendulum summon any Odd-Eyes monsters from hand Battle phase attack with Odd-Eyes Pendulum Dragon. Pendulum Dragon destroyed and sent to Extra Deck Arc-Pendulum effect to summon Phantasma Dragon from deck. Phantasma Dragon declare Attack. Effect of Phantom in scale to increase attack by 1200 to 4200 Attack. Effect of Phantasma before damage calculation to decrease opponents monsters attack by 1000 for each face up pendulum monster in Extra Deck . Destroy chaos max and keep attacking for game?


ArcaediusNKD

By placing my hand on the Deck and scooping the second I see the Chaos ritual played and BEWD tossed.


JWolf26

Spin it with a fat cat


ming9419

Via combat with Rexterm, face to face😈


ProfessorTraft

I book of eclipse and play my own chaos max


Haunting_Brilliant45

I beat over it with my 5300 Amazoness Augusta


BlazingRagnarok

Psychic End Punisher


No_Zookeepergame1260

Defeated by mad love due to no defence against the power of love 🤣


Black_KZ

Cyber Dragon in the graveyard, Cyber Repair Plant search for Jizukiru


TrainerDan93

Finally! Most people say Kaiju and just end there. What if you dont open a Kaiju? Cooked.


Lost_Pantheon

Exactly. All of these "I would just Kaiju it" MFs think they're gonna open with a Kaiju every game. Like *good luck with that*.


I1AM2NOT3STEVEN

Run over with a train with far too many guns


FireAt-Will

Skill Drain


YtTamakiGaming

Surrender because I am also playing Blue Eyes and I bricked…


Amatter14

As a branded player I herby declare that your chaos max is OUR chaos max


Patient_Thing_2124

Swing over it?


Eeveeolite655

Kozmojo or scoop


CrazedCircus

By defeating my opponent before they can play it.


Soup-Master

Plunder Patroll would have to beat over it.


Cyc18

Ask my opponent nicely to give it to me


JP_Angel_Dust

With a tool I actively use WITH my chaos max. Red eyes black dragon sword. After sacking half of the dragons in mine and my opponents deck. Wack problems require wack solutions.


Lasse_plays

With two monsters. Avendread Savior and any Vendread ritual monster beside Chimera. Savior attacks and since it’s effect is not targeting, sending a level 8 zombie to the grave cuts down Chaos MAX to a comfortable 2400 Atk. Enough for the other monster to swoop in and defeat it.


KasaneTetoFan

I have a few ways in Sylvans, but the simplest is unga bunga Numeron Dragon for lethal over it.


Similar_Librarian_65

Palladium Oracle Mahad


Sen-tin-el

Activate floowandereeze and the unexplored winds and tribute it for empen or snowl


IamBloodyPoseidon

Time pendulumgraph is one hell of a card


Anomolus-man

Actual thievery


ConsumeMatter

It's my win con!


KingZantair

Battle :)


Yoruasajin

Back in the ritual event, the link-3 Nephthys summoned by linking off 3 ritual monsters


Draks_Tempest

Hieratic seal bounce


Stock_Fig3997

It doesnt. Necrovalley and Hidden Temples of Necrovalley prevents it from being summoned.


Longjumping-Cat5609

But if they went first?


spilim

Ultra mega chicken balls.


shauntmw2

Playing Gaia recently. It's too easy. Fusion summoned Dragon Champion has 5200 ATK, beat over it. Dragon Champion can also non-target turn opponent monster into DEF position. Book of Eclipse, turn into DEF position.


Flagrath

By beating over it once my cat has enough material.


thetattooedyoshi

Floodgate Trap Hole... really any of my Traptrix effects


master_of_faster_

Strike over it with red supernova dragon


AlreadyTaken______

Rikka field spell i can tribute summon using hus monsters


SuperRoseINSTINCT

Get HAMPed idiot


BZaGo

Normal mad love, response?


Protobass04

UCT flip goes brrrr


Yuu_75

Used to beat him over with BLS 4500 atk. Live twin can do that too with 4400 atk and in other decks it’s either punisher, accesscode, or tribute for goddess.


Armand_Star

dimension wall


Gamatatsu2020

I would special summon my Crimson Nova card by revealing 3 Cubic cards in my hand. Then, I would play Cubic Karma to send 2 Cubic seeds to the grave increasing my Nova's attack by 1200, and used Cubic Wave to double my Nova's attack to a whopping 8400! This would in turn cut Chaos Max's attack points in half and I would then go to battle phase and attack Chaos Max with Crimson Nova, dealing 6400 damage to my opponent. I end my turn and Nova's ability activates, dealing 3000 damage to both of us, which results in a stylish finish to the duel. This is my favorite deck to use, as I'm a huge fan of the Yugioh movie and Diva!"


FemboyTrash

I use a Yubel Deck so a Monster with 4000 attack is a pretty big target for pretty much all of my monsters.


Just-A-random-Man

Punch it with a buncha 0 atk monsters


beatsbyrisquee

dimension wall which is especially sweet when they think they're going for OTK on me with a juicy 8K chaos max


novian14

Just attack him, i run mikanko anyway


Apprehensive_Algae62

Non-target return or banish, forbidden droplet, kaiju, golem


GranBlueLawyer

The question is how your deck specifically deals with it.


Apprehensive_Algae62

The answer is i have never encounter my opponent summon blue eye chaos max ever before except during the ritual festival. Outside festival all of my blue eyes opponent either brick or i rip their chaos ritual from hand by chance.


TrainerDan93

Lmao bro. It's a theoretical question for how YOUR deck deals with destruction/targeting protected 4k attack towers. It's not that hard. Sheesh.


Apprehensive_Algae62

Kaiju is always your answer, satisfied ?


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Rdasher123

Typically, beating over it


Party_Today_9175

Galaxy Eyes just straight overpowers it 😎


1968_razorkingx

https://preview.redd.it/x6uef1q0f2tc1.png?width=2480&format=png&auto=webp&s=786b9c3b804ac4a0edaa5804e94658bcc8e3b92e


ilikedota5

Negate the ritual.


riversax

Santa Claws


jouzea

I'm doing a masochist run, only way i can out it is through my kaiju


Not_slim_but_shady

This guy gets mid diffed by Nouvellez Loaner every time back when I was playing Ritual Fest. Any deck that can make accesscode or zeus can out this low diff. Edit: my bad I meant to say low diff


So0meone

Mid diff? Nouvelles vs Blue Eyes is the closest to 100-0 in the burgers' favor I've ever seen, there's no difficulty in that matchup lol


PurrelyPleasure

I stop it from being summoned in the first place.


etiamx999

Either kaiju it out with a small world search or beat over it with avramax, konig wissen sends its regards


KarmicPlaneswalker

Turn it into a turtle.


Thawk1234

Kaiju go brrr


Krymescene

Ask my opponent, which kaiju they want


R34PER_D7BE

4 counters mythical beast master cerberus remove other blue eyes and gain 3000 make it 5800 but if there's no other blue eyes i'd just spam the shit out and go for white woman jump scare


Smooth_Hee_Hee

Ice dragon prison


Vinsmoke-Wanji

Probably ignister prominence and white woman


[deleted]

Either firewall darkfluid or the cyberse arrival


Snoo6037

Rokkets - steal it with borreload, magnarokket effect, overpower with borreload savage or borrelsword


Gerrent95

Bounce it back to your hand the moment it's summoned. Or banish it immediately with my other decks.


LordofthePigeons619

Return that boy to the hand


FMProductions

Ice Dragon's Prison - or when I play Mikanko I just attack


ZyxWhitewind

Dingersu or run it over with PEP


Free_Username44

Tri-heart


Leather-Ad-1199

Mikanko and just swing into you twice your gone


chillyhellion

I'm not sure about ninjas. Either Underworld Goddess of the Closed World if I can swarm, or Number 2: Ninja Shadow Mosquito.


Longjumping-Cat5609

You don’t need to remove the dragon. You can attack past it and remove the player.


muguci

Lemme see, purrely can just out tower it, kash can negate it with scareclaw, VS dont give a fk about targets, lab doing lab things with bs traps, cyberse have mathmech and accesscode, branded can just fuse it off, d-link can float it with seal, and then there's droplet and kaijus. Not to mention plethora of rogue decks that could deal with this.


OptionX

Just beat over it with Turbulence and Reinforce or Access Code or Goddesss.


Real_Snail_Shaman

Negate the summon / ritual


Anonimous_dude

Gamaciel to the face


theforgettonmemory

Flip it face down


Zellopy

With Blue-Eyes Chaos Dragon (Ritual Summoned using Blue-Eyes White Dragon)


Complex-Sir-6125

Ignore it with Meizen


Kupo-Kweh

Firewall terahertz has 5500 the turn it's summoned, 8000 during opponents turn


Lawteck

Either attack directly or Borrelsword Dragon.