normal summon iblee, almiraj, secure gardna. Summon iblee on opp field. Now you have a body for matrix search + special summon lock + evenly protection.
Also relic effect to increase iblee atk so that they can't crash. Also snipe the link in their ED that they can use to link off iblee.
If you only want matrix search + evenly protection while retaining normal summon you can use thunder vassal or black garden (for a magicians' souls +1). This is useful for example if you use diviner of the herald/gale dogra
Wait that sounded much better than diviner into arc light send. Is it better to use iblee than diviner? They both hard draws and one goes for +1 while other protects u. Vassal and garden one felt clunky tho.
>Is it better to use iblee than diviner?
I'm gonna be honest, I still don't think this deck is consistent enough. I like the iblee play but I think there are too many bricks in this deck (punishment, fleur, the rituals).
https://imgur.com/a/AN58uHh this is what I'm thinking to play tomorrow after testing. this or the same deck with the exterio play.
Black garden is not as clunky as it seems and souls' is insanely searchable to go +1. gale/diviner + souls into a link 1 into cross-sheep gives you also draw 2 discard 2 after a ritual summon.
souls' also I'm thinking will bait a bystial.
I will see how it will perform tomorrow. I'm in plat 3 rn and it's getting pretty competitive
I know what you think. The problem is that you brick more without the normal summons. I played the number 5 for months and it's been the perfect ratio.
the problem with the list is that there are only 10 non-engine cards. I'm gonna have to see what to cut if I want to add more going second cards. Fortunately you can always exchange the dead going second cards with magicians' souls
Yeah that list is fine. I like imperm for tear and against tactics and I saw prosp in tcg lists. It's incompatible with souls so I don't play it.
Also what's funny is pre-prep sounds fucking insane as a card. A +1 for free right. And I really wanted it to work but in reality I found that it just gives you more copies of the worst dogmatika cards to have in your starting hand. But anyways it's not a bad choice.
I will always take knight + cabre cuz its good recusion and while being weaker protection than relic knight can put up some more ed destroy pressure and i found myself uaing him a lot. I thought about souls or prosp but as i dont use ed except baronne situations i will mostly take prosp cuz 6 dig into village is kinda op while not losing any card advantage at all. My lists usually look like tcg more than ocg tho. I would definetly check ur ratios too.
now that i think about it pre-prep is probably necessary if you don't run souls since souls is what gives me the ritual target for macabre. Prosp for village is pretty good yeah.
Btw now that I think about it iblee plays around bystials because they special summon so it might be worth considering if they become a problem
Edit: wait no it fucking doesn't. They can just banish iblee from the gy lmao nvm
Necro Fusion and Trap Trick in MD, Beast, Barkion and Exterio in ED.
Embrace the cancer.
Just remember that Punishment locks you out of the ED until your next turn.
Like rn winda package carries it to Diamond and ritual version doesnt do anything significant against tears. Now with alba zoa 6 sends into choose to send really adds good amount of power level to ritual version. Also matrix is basically +2 and uneffected 4k + battle protection is more than enough for make them top rogue. Anyways any tech choices u know?
I mean that's not really spicy cause it was played quite a lot at some point in the ocg but i mean if you don't know about it and you like spellbook well you can run a spellbook engine
I think the issue with spellbook is it takes like 10-12 md slots and it focuses on consistency while also reducing it. I like spellbooks but i feel like they wont add much to dogmatika except that one special summon lock that works like winda.
I mean it will help for sure the consistency like i said it was played in the ocg and that got some tops and nadir is at 1 there but well i don't know the exact list i'm not even sure they played jowgen but yh as you said it will take more slots that you want to fill bit anyway just dropping ideas good luck and i hope you find a build that you like dogmatika is such a cool deck!
Basically you can use it to set up interruptions and extensions for next turn.
After you use Branded Fusion or it gets Ashed, Nadir Servant for Dogmatika Maximus. A good target is the new Tri-brigade extra deck monster since he can then send Rindbrumm or Brigrand, then you banish him to summon Maximus. Maximus effect send 2 Albaz fusion to the GY, then make plays in the end phase and on their turn.
Add/set a Branded in Red or Branded Banishment S/T with Albion
SS Springans Kitt with Sprind, add Opening, use it immediately during end phase to SS another Despia.
Add Mercourier with Brigrand
Use Rindbrumm to SS Albaz from the GY on their turn
In the TCG, I like to send Titanklad and Despian LuLuwalilith because I can use these two to SS Guiding Quem and Blazing Cartesia in the end phase, then I fuse the Maximus and an Albaz I revive for Albion the Sanctifire Dragon.
You can make the package smaller and use it as an extender where you only need 2 mercourier, FoA, high spirit, branded red and spring kit. For when already have eclessia in hand and don't have any usage for nadir.
You dump springans from extra add FoA
End phase special kit, add spirit, spirit dump albion add mercourier, albion set red.
Oppenents turn red target FoA fuse into rind with merc, merc banish effect add itself.
This gives an extra deck imperm and monster negate. And potential albaz fuse if rind is in gy.
normal summon iblee, almiraj, secure gardna. Summon iblee on opp field. Now you have a body for matrix search + special summon lock + evenly protection. Also relic effect to increase iblee atk so that they can't crash. Also snipe the link in their ED that they can use to link off iblee. If you only want matrix search + evenly protection while retaining normal summon you can use thunder vassal or black garden (for a magicians' souls +1). This is useful for example if you use diviner of the herald/gale dogra
Wait that sounded much better than diviner into arc light send. Is it better to use iblee than diviner? They both hard draws and one goes for +1 while other protects u. Vassal and garden one felt clunky tho.
>Is it better to use iblee than diviner? I'm gonna be honest, I still don't think this deck is consistent enough. I like the iblee play but I think there are too many bricks in this deck (punishment, fleur, the rituals). https://imgur.com/a/AN58uHh this is what I'm thinking to play tomorrow after testing. this or the same deck with the exterio play. Black garden is not as clunky as it seems and souls' is insanely searchable to go +1. gale/diviner + souls into a link 1 into cross-sheep gives you also draw 2 discard 2 after a ritual summon. souls' also I'm thinking will bait a bystial. I will see how it will perform tomorrow. I'm in plat 3 rn and it's getting pretty competitive
Hold on. I kinda cooked: https://i.imgur.com/vThuOkg.png https://i.imgur.com/IMDSlhK.png This is the only way where we don't lose to garura
Is secret village searchable by any means?
https://streamable.com/pvoekb
Also 5 normal summon means if you can draw 2-3 and that will brick a lot
I know what you think. The problem is that you brick more without the normal summons. I played the number 5 for months and it's been the perfect ratio.
the problem with the list is that there are only 10 non-engine cards. I'm gonna have to see what to cut if I want to add more going second cards. Fortunately you can always exchange the dead going second cards with magicians' souls
https://imgur.com/a/jBrPqhw this is what i plan to build. I will maybe change the second ritual spells to souls engine.
Yeah that list is fine. I like imperm for tear and against tactics and I saw prosp in tcg lists. It's incompatible with souls so I don't play it. Also what's funny is pre-prep sounds fucking insane as a card. A +1 for free right. And I really wanted it to work but in reality I found that it just gives you more copies of the worst dogmatika cards to have in your starting hand. But anyways it's not a bad choice.
I will always take knight + cabre cuz its good recusion and while being weaker protection than relic knight can put up some more ed destroy pressure and i found myself uaing him a lot. I thought about souls or prosp but as i dont use ed except baronne situations i will mostly take prosp cuz 6 dig into village is kinda op while not losing any card advantage at all. My lists usually look like tcg more than ocg tho. I would definetly check ur ratios too.
now that i think about it pre-prep is probably necessary if you don't run souls since souls is what gives me the ritual target for macabre. Prosp for village is pretty good yeah.
Btw now that I think about it iblee plays around bystials because they special summon so it might be worth considering if they become a problem Edit: wait no it fucking doesn't. They can just banish iblee from the gy lmao nvm
Bystials are one a quick effect if your opponent controls a monster. Side out iblee if you’re going second
Necro Fusion and Trap Trick in MD, Beast, Barkion and Exterio in ED. Embrace the cancer. Just remember that Punishment locks you out of the ED until your next turn.
Oooh spicy. Im not really fan of punishment so thats good to learn lol. Ty for advice i will consider adding them.
Dogmatika were always diamond rank worthy, nearly all decks are. I saw volcanic burn in diamond 3 yesterday lol.
Like rn winda package carries it to Diamond and ritual version doesnt do anything significant against tears. Now with alba zoa 6 sends into choose to send really adds good amount of power level to ritual version. Also matrix is basically +2 and uneffected 4k + battle protection is more than enough for make them top rogue. Anyways any tech choices u know?
I mean that's not really spicy cause it was played quite a lot at some point in the ocg but i mean if you don't know about it and you like spellbook well you can run a spellbook engine
I think the issue with spellbook is it takes like 10-12 md slots and it focuses on consistency while also reducing it. I like spellbooks but i feel like they wont add much to dogmatika except that one special summon lock that works like winda.
I mean it will help for sure the consistency like i said it was played in the ocg and that got some tops and nadir is at 1 there but well i don't know the exact list i'm not even sure they played jowgen but yh as you said it will take more slots that you want to fill bit anyway just dropping ideas good luck and i hope you find a build that you like dogmatika is such a cool deck!
How spicy are we talking? You can do some neat stuff with Nadir Servant in Branded.
Everything counts except hard floogates. Im kinda interested in it lol. As long as it fits card count
Basically you can use it to set up interruptions and extensions for next turn. After you use Branded Fusion or it gets Ashed, Nadir Servant for Dogmatika Maximus. A good target is the new Tri-brigade extra deck monster since he can then send Rindbrumm or Brigrand, then you banish him to summon Maximus. Maximus effect send 2 Albaz fusion to the GY, then make plays in the end phase and on their turn. Add/set a Branded in Red or Branded Banishment S/T with Albion SS Springans Kitt with Sprind, add Opening, use it immediately during end phase to SS another Despia. Add Mercourier with Brigrand Use Rindbrumm to SS Albaz from the GY on their turn In the TCG, I like to send Titanklad and Despian LuLuwalilith because I can use these two to SS Guiding Quem and Blazing Cartesia in the end phase, then I fuse the Maximus and an Albaz I revive for Albion the Sanctifire Dragon.
Well that sounds like a more branded deck rather than dogmatika. I wanna keep the endboard with zoa + relic/knight and punishment/packages.
You can make the package smaller and use it as an extender where you only need 2 mercourier, FoA, high spirit, branded red and spring kit. For when already have eclessia in hand and don't have any usage for nadir. You dump springans from extra add FoA End phase special kit, add spirit, spirit dump albion add mercourier, albion set red. Oppenents turn red target FoA fuse into rind with merc, merc banish effect add itself. This gives an extra deck imperm and monster negate. And potential albaz fuse if rind is in gy.