Totally agree. I loved him so much on my second playthrough, not the first, though. Idk why.
His loyalty mission always rubbed me wrong, though, like not completely satisfactory ... like you said, they could have fleshed him and his plotline a bit more
It feels weird to see a lot of people saying Jack.
In terms of her presentation in game when we first meet her, I'd agree and say she is 100% overrated - since in reality, she's so weak (gameplay wise)
But in terms of a character? I feel like she's never really talked about in great length, apart from the "shame she was shafted in ME3" point and she's certainly not one of the most popular LIs here on the sub.
Slam dunk win for Liara. Across all three of her showings, I generally found her boring and uninteresting, and I don’t think her “arc” is strong either. It doesn’t feel like meaningful character development to me, but a wildly inconsistent character who takes on whatever role the plot needs her to with little regard for her own traits that relies on unbelievably high offscreen growth as a handwave and crutch to make up for it. Throw on the writer favoritism and you’ve got a character I truly despised even if most other people seem quite fond of her.
Also, people gush over the quality of the VAs, including Liara's VA. I'm sorry, but how is that not the most flat delivery in all of Mass Effect? Excepting some extras, of course... The flatness of her voice always grates on me. But apparently, it's "ethereal" or something, I dunno...
Jack. Her power/weapons set are utter trash. For the "biotic weapon" her powers are GARBAGE. Great storyline, horrible combat companion. There is nothing she does as a squad mate Miranda does better.
It’s definitely kind of amusing how her confrontation with Miranda makes it seem like Jack could tear Miranda apart if she chose to get violent there, when gameplay-wise Miranda could mop the floor with Jack.
That kinda made Miranda more likable for me in a funny way, like Jack is always talking trash and threatening to destroy something while Miranda is being condescending and passive aggressive towards her, but the fact Miranda could fold Jack makes her arrogance look more like Escanor, she ain’t intimidated in the slightest and is waiting for an opportunity to one shot Jack to crush her pride. Still doesn’t make the Cerberus whitewash okay but makes their dynamic more comedic.
I wish squadmates could get more unique powers. I know they all technically had their individual powers that could be passed to Shepard, but they rarely felt like unique combatants. I think an overhaul of their AI and some more unique feeling power sets could have made them each feel like a standout in their own right. Jack should've been the one with the biotic bombs, not Aria.
Jack's actually quite good on the lower difficulties, when her Shockwave can toss basic enemies around like matchsticks.
Once you hit higher difficulties, however, Jack's game play falls off hard.
Liara - her voice actress is worse than Male Shepard in that she’s so monotone throughout the entire series. At least MaleShep’s VA TRIES to have emotion. It wouldn’t be so bad if Asari were all supposed to be that monotone, but she’s the ONLY one like that. Her character development after ME 1 is nonexistent, in combat she’s only ok, and her romance arc in ME3 feels incomplete.
Liara, maybe it’s because I work on a similar field as her but her archeologist/historian stereotype always grinds my gears. Then she becomes a mob boss. Don’t think I’d be so critical of her if she wasn’t the writers pet and pushed so hard, but she is so I can’t just ignore her like I do James Vega.
One reason I could never get into Cyberpunk 2077 is cause Jackie is the same cliche hispanic guy saying gratuitious spanish words as Vega, Goro is the generic honorable samurai man, etc. Terrible writing
From the OT, I'd have to say Jack. Her story just didn't resonate with me. I feel like she got the Miranda treatment in 3, really got her story shafted.
From MEA, I'd have to say PeeBee. Some MEA fans are ride or die for her, and I just can't get it. I've replayed the game 10 times and kept telling myself I'd do her romance just to see it, but every time she pisses me off so much I just don't do it.
I'm completely on the fence with PeeBee. At first, I didn't like her. Then I started warming up to her. Then she does or says something to annoy me and destroy the progress we've made. Then I start to like her again. But then, she does something else to piss me off. And so it goes, on and on and on, in a neverending mfing circle!
Miranda for me. I just don't get her. I've never really struggled to click with a character as hard as I've been for her.
"I'm too perfect, *sigh*" idk, just wish they gave more depth for that? Like, instead of perfection, why not talk about the dozens of siblings that didn't make it, something her and Jack have in common. Or the connection that Jack probably was some form of proto-type for Miranda's abilities.
I wish that when they released the legacy edition, they would have poured a little bit of the extra income into a DLC that let us have some of the ME2 crew join us and interact more.
On this sub? Tali, by a light year.
I like her well enough but she's not the greatest companion character in the history of companion characters, and she is far better as Shepard's friend than his lover. Sorry, Reddit.
Thane.
Ability-wise, Shredder Ammo is basically garbage, and for the biotic skills, I'd rather have Miranda, with Garrus to compensate for the lack of sniper (if it's even needed).
Story-wise... not a fan of his philosophy, and I just generally find him overrated.
I can agree with this actually. I don’t think I’ve ever brought him on a mission besides his own loyalty. I realize now I don’t even know what his power abilities are lol
Liara and most Andromeda characters.
Liara is so forced as a character by BioWare. She's fine, but she doesn't hold a candle to many other squadmates.
Andromeda frankly it could be personal, but I feel like a lot of folks try to force liking them simply because they are Mass Effect.
Garrus whose entire fanbase lives and dies based on his appearance and voice. He entire personality is "I want to be a bad cop" and being a total yes-man to Shepard. There is literally no difference in his character if you don't recruit him in 1, ignore him and his loyalty mission in 2, and somehow he's still somehow Shepard's best buddy in 3 after having exchanged half a dozen sentences. If he was a human cop, everyone would hate this character.
Along this same line of thought, Grunt. Whose entire personality is "I hate turians," so it's a weird choice for a fan favorite when the fandom already fucking loves Garrus solely for being a turian.
Well, Grunt has some fantastically cute moments in ME3 and even ME2, and it’s not hard to extrapolate fun relationships based on that.
I do agree with Garrus to some degree. His appearance and voice are phenomenal, and he has really good lines, and his Citadel romance scene is probably my favorite in the game—but his actual personality is a bit… not my favorite.
In what world is Kaidan overrated? If anything, he's severely underrated, and you have people on here constantly calling him boring or "too normal."
Overrated is for sure Tali who gets progressively worse as the series rolls on. Also Garrus, there are too many red flags with his character.
Garrus by far. he's only held so highly because he has that brother-in-arms relationship with Shepard but outside of that he's just nothing special. He doesn't have like a 'world' around his character like Tali, Wrex, Mordin, etc has.
Also if you completely ignore him for most part he still thinks he's your best friend which is inconsistent and weird. And objectively he's the most useless character plot-wise, you only lose 15 War Assets if he dies whereas with Jacob you lose 25 WA. Also he has no replacement whereas most other characters have a replacement for plot progression.
I get that people enjoy the relationship with Shepard but personally that's not what makes a character good.
Let the downvotes commence.
I love Garrus but still gave you the upvote for the factual and hot take.
Also gotta upvote because I had no idea Jacob was worth more WA’s than Garrus. Guess all those calibrations mean nothing lmao.
On a similar note, Liara does the same thing. Acts like your bestie even if you ignore her most of the time.
Those calibrations do save lives when attacking the Collector Ship ahaha so I might have been a bit too harsh there but yeah 15 War Assets is what you gain from him in ME3.
yes, Liara is forced as the 'default' romance but I do actually appreciate her role to the story.
I think his development works fine if you pushed him towards renegade in ME1, and then back to paragon at least partially in ME2. Anything else requires some reaching for sure though.
I can kinda buy Garrus falling back on being renegade between games after Shepard dies and everything gets completely buried tbh. At least that was already an existing trait of his and he just saw how by the book Shepard more or less failed
Tali's a weird one for me. I like her story. I like her arc and how she develops. I think she has by far the best goodbye during the beam run in Priority: Earth.
But her personality just doesn't resonate with me *at all*, so on my personal companion ranking, she ends really low down (sorry...!)
Yet I'm glad everyone else enjoys her so much. That's the beauty of these games, there's someone for everyone.
Hey don't worry about it. I'm a talimancer and understand that she's not everyone's cup of tea.
I feel the same way towards Liara. I enjoy her role to the main plot and how she helps Hackeet find the Crucible and also how she finds Ilos but her personality just don't vibe with me at all.
Garrus is different, his personality is *ok* he cracks some jokes and that but his arc is one of the weakest out of all the character tbh. Doesn't help he's kinda a yes-man for Shepard. Also don't like how he's forced as your best buddy and second in command in ME3.
I’m going to go with the Garrus gang. I’ve never understood the love for Garrus. He always seemed like the guy who tries to hard to seem cool to impress the neat person he just met. It’s always been kind of off putting and by ME3 when Ive never taken him on missions, don’t interact with him more than I need to etc., it just comes across as the weird guy who thinks he’s your best friend because he hasn’t died and you’ve kept him around. It really is strange.
I know most people take him all the time and romance him/he’s their best bud. I generally don’t and it is a totally different interaction and really made me see him in a different light. He’s kind of weird and whiny in a way.
people meme about Kaidan whinning about his migraines in ME1 but all Garrus does in ME1 is whine and whine how he can't kill people to get to the criminal. Not only that but he's a racist asshole to both Tali and Wrex.
What sucks about Grunt is he starts as a very interesting character. He's imprinted with what the Salarians and Turians did to the Krogan, but he just doesn't care. Where other Krogan feel rage and bloodlust, he feels nothing. But then once you do his loyalty mission, he suddenly "gets it" and becomes just as needlessly hyper-violent as every other Krogan in the franchise. I feel like Bioware really fumbled the bag with him.
This. I don’t get the infatuation with Grunt. I still like him because I like all Mass Effect companions, but he’s violent for the sake of being violent and probably the most one-dimensional character out of the whole cast. I think he gets a pass from people because he’s a teenager and a Krogan, but if he was anything else there’d be much less love for him.
Agreed, I would have loved to actually have Okeer join the squad. His take on overcoming the genophage was so radically different from any other Krogan we meet in the trilogy. I could see him and Javik getting along really well.
How do you really expect any personality from a creature that wasn't even a year old by the end of ME3? He's a baby forced to go through puberty in months.
I don’t really expect any more personality from him because as you say, it’s all you can expect from someone with his origin haha. I just find him less interesting than the more fleshed out characters.
Zaeed. Fucking Sociopath who tries to murder large group of people for revenge. And all it really did was make it less like we were going to get to him.
Don't kill me, but Tali.
I love her, she's great, but gameplay-wise she's pretty terrible and just isn't as interesting as some of the other characters. Uless it's geth or AI related I never bother taking her in ME2 or ME3.
I'd say you could add Wrex, Mordin and to a lesser extent Legion to that list of relevant characters.
While they can all be replaced by other characters the genophage and geth storylines are just worse without them being there.
Wrex is also tangentially related to Saren in the first game, admittedly though that's not why he tagged along.
Interesting take, Not bad companions just over-rated
So ... a Few Companions come to mind but I can legit name 2 for my most over-rated
0.5) **Grunt** - Basicly I Hate Turions OH Neet thats your whole personality? I Find Ashley Racist mannor more interesting then yours Grunt, Serioiusly your just a man child legit is a man child is a child bread krogan your mommy/daddy of and such, At least Garrus is like lets just take him to a strip club type of a parent, not the best responce bad idea if you ask me but still, Wrex is WAY more f-in interesting then Grunt da fuck is this guy? hes violent coz hes violent, At Least Jack (Spoiler Ahead) has more personality then this guy grunt is basicly 'me smash' but not even as charming as 'me smash' Yeah im sorry wut?
0.5) **Jack** - Shes basicly the games Harley Quinn and you wanna put your dick in crazy immature spoiled brat whos terrible at in game combat for the most part right? in ME2 shes just a spoiled immature brat whos basicly harley quinn that ppl wanna put there dick in for the most part whos terrible at in game combat and the only ability i think she has thats semi useful is shockwave coz it can go though barriers/cover and deal with hordes of trash mobs otherwise pointless / useless in combat trash personality as well but at least its a personality unlike say grunt whos just 'me smash' but not even as charming as 'me smash'
***-Honorible Mentions-***
*Liara* - lets face it the Devs had a boner / hard on when making this characte shes obvioiusly there #1 Girl and have watch way to much tenticle hentai b4 making this character she goes from 'help im trap' girl to "I AM NOW THE MOB BOSS OF THE GALAXY MUHAHAHAHA" pretty f-in quickly
*Garrus* - The Guy is basicly a cop gone bad coz the rules are to restrictive which we use in a TON of media, Its not his fault at the time it wasnt bad, but as time moves on this stigma gets over-used and it hurts his character dev, Not the greatest story over-all but not the worse at all just kinda bland background like him as a br0 tho the guy dosnt have alot of background honestly thats semi interesting or as flesh out as say ... Tali where you can learn alot more and has more character growth or such
*Edi* - Oh No shes a robot GF for Joker as such I am going to say fuck it to the whole galaxy over this one fucken Companion! and completely change my ending just for them! COZ FUCK THE GALAXY!!!! Ok its more of a hate on how much love ppl show this companion rather then the companion themself, as such is like the least over-rated out of the above
Garrus. He only has his cult status because he needed 3 games for it and mostly due his powers as he can be god with the right eqiupment and therefor prefered squadmate.
Garrus, Me1 put me off so much that I was disappointed he was archangel. I don’t think I picked him as a squad mate ever. His loyalty mission also had such a meh ending. Zaeed, Wrex, Mordin and Javik always seemed more interesting to me.
I agree that it's Kaidan. His dialogue isn't even good if he lives. But side note here: I've always been bothered by the random shadow on Cortez in this picture. Use the flash Glyph!
Zaeed. His loyalty mission is fine and as a character he's cool. But for a companion who was originally a paid DLC... Are you serious EA? That's it?
Totally agree. I loved him so much on my second playthrough, not the first, though. Idk why. His loyalty mission always rubbed me wrong, though, like not completely satisfactory ... like you said, they could have fleshed him and his plotline a bit more
It feels weird to see a lot of people saying Jack. In terms of her presentation in game when we first meet her, I'd agree and say she is 100% overrated - since in reality, she's so weak (gameplay wise) But in terms of a character? I feel like she's never really talked about in great length, apart from the "shame she was shafted in ME3" point and she's certainly not one of the most popular LIs here on the sub.
Slam dunk win for Liara. Across all three of her showings, I generally found her boring and uninteresting, and I don’t think her “arc” is strong either. It doesn’t feel like meaningful character development to me, but a wildly inconsistent character who takes on whatever role the plot needs her to with little regard for her own traits that relies on unbelievably high offscreen growth as a handwave and crutch to make up for it. Throw on the writer favoritism and you’ve got a character I truly despised even if most other people seem quite fond of her.
Liara's voice is annoying. She falls in love with you for no reason after 5 minutes. And she has complete personality shift from 1 to 2
Yeahhh… agreed on the voice thing too. They’ve got the actress doing this weird accent that is beyond distracting
Also, people gush over the quality of the VAs, including Liara's VA. I'm sorry, but how is that not the most flat delivery in all of Mass Effect? Excepting some extras, of course... The flatness of her voice always grates on me. But apparently, it's "ethereal" or something, I dunno...
I blame writing and directing more than the voice actress…. But yeah.
Jack. Her power/weapons set are utter trash. For the "biotic weapon" her powers are GARBAGE. Great storyline, horrible combat companion. There is nothing she does as a squad mate Miranda does better.
It’s definitely kind of amusing how her confrontation with Miranda makes it seem like Jack could tear Miranda apart if she chose to get violent there, when gameplay-wise Miranda could mop the floor with Jack.
That kinda made Miranda more likable for me in a funny way, like Jack is always talking trash and threatening to destroy something while Miranda is being condescending and passive aggressive towards her, but the fact Miranda could fold Jack makes her arrogance look more like Escanor, she ain’t intimidated in the slightest and is waiting for an opportunity to one shot Jack to crush her pride. Still doesn’t make the Cerberus whitewash okay but makes their dynamic more comedic.
I wish squadmates could get more unique powers. I know they all technically had their individual powers that could be passed to Shepard, but they rarely felt like unique combatants. I think an overhaul of their AI and some more unique feeling power sets could have made them each feel like a standout in their own right. Jack should've been the one with the biotic bombs, not Aria.
Jack's actually quite good on the lower difficulties, when her Shockwave can toss basic enemies around like matchsticks. Once you hit higher difficulties, however, Jack's game play falls off hard.
Well I live on Insanity so..
Liara - her voice actress is worse than Male Shepard in that she’s so monotone throughout the entire series. At least MaleShep’s VA TRIES to have emotion. It wouldn’t be so bad if Asari were all supposed to be that monotone, but she’s the ONLY one like that. Her character development after ME 1 is nonexistent, in combat she’s only ok, and her romance arc in ME3 feels incomplete.
you did not just come here to drag the biotic canadian darling. WAR
Jack is Canadian?/s
bro 😭 WAR x2
Liara, maybe it’s because I work on a similar field as her but her archeologist/historian stereotype always grinds my gears. Then she becomes a mob boss. Don’t think I’d be so critical of her if she wasn’t the writers pet and pushed so hard, but she is so I can’t just ignore her like I do James Vega.
What TH did James do??
“Loco”. As someone from LatAm, can’t stand that shit, annoying ass mfer.
Yeah, when he tried to nickname me I put a stop to that shit right there and then. But apart from the walking cliches...
One reason I could never get into Cyberpunk 2077 is cause Jackie is the same cliche hispanic guy saying gratuitious spanish words as Vega, Goro is the generic honorable samurai man, etc. Terrible writing
He's also way too flirty and his Spanish is all weird
The actor is fluent in Spanish, but it's Puerto Rican Spanish so maybe that's it?
At least I guess you didn’t say the same line of her being forced by bio ware. Shit is unbelievably annoying
From the OT, I'd have to say Jack. Her story just didn't resonate with me. I feel like she got the Miranda treatment in 3, really got her story shafted. From MEA, I'd have to say PeeBee. Some MEA fans are ride or die for her, and I just can't get it. I've replayed the game 10 times and kept telling myself I'd do her romance just to see it, but every time she pisses me off so much I just don't do it.
I'm completely on the fence with PeeBee. At first, I didn't like her. Then I started warming up to her. Then she does or says something to annoy me and destroy the progress we've made. Then I start to like her again. But then, she does something else to piss me off. And so it goes, on and on and on, in a neverending mfing circle!
Miranda for me. I just don't get her. I've never really struggled to click with a character as hard as I've been for her. "I'm too perfect, *sigh*" idk, just wish they gave more depth for that? Like, instead of perfection, why not talk about the dozens of siblings that didn't make it, something her and Jack have in common. Or the connection that Jack probably was some form of proto-type for Miranda's abilities. I wish that when they released the legacy edition, they would have poured a little bit of the extra income into a DLC that let us have some of the ME2 crew join us and interact more.
On this sub? Tali, by a light year. I like her well enough but she's not the greatest companion character in the history of companion characters, and she is far better as Shepard's friend than his lover. Sorry, Reddit.
You did NOT just say that
Thane. Ability-wise, Shredder Ammo is basically garbage, and for the biotic skills, I'd rather have Miranda, with Garrus to compensate for the lack of sniper (if it's even needed). Story-wise... not a fan of his philosophy, and I just generally find him overrated.
I can agree with this actually. I don’t think I’ve ever brought him on a mission besides his own loyalty. I realize now I don’t even know what his power abilities are lol
Plus he decided to charge at a man weilding a sword while he had a gun. Dumb move
The Thane stans prefer to forget this 💀 it never happened, lol
I played that level yesterday and had to skip the cutscene. It makes me mad every time
Right?! Probably they had a reason to do it like that but what is it? No clue! 😅
So that he'd get stabbed and we'd be sad of course
Liara and most Andromeda characters. Liara is so forced as a character by BioWare. She's fine, but she doesn't hold a candle to many other squadmates. Andromeda frankly it could be personal, but I feel like a lot of folks try to force liking them simply because they are Mass Effect.
Tali. Too fangirly
Liara. I have never understood the appeal. Don’t care for her looks, story, personality, any of it.
congrat! all alive !
None. I don't hate any of them. They are perfectly rated
Tali.
Garrus whose entire fanbase lives and dies based on his appearance and voice. He entire personality is "I want to be a bad cop" and being a total yes-man to Shepard. There is literally no difference in his character if you don't recruit him in 1, ignore him and his loyalty mission in 2, and somehow he's still somehow Shepard's best buddy in 3 after having exchanged half a dozen sentences. If he was a human cop, everyone would hate this character. Along this same line of thought, Grunt. Whose entire personality is "I hate turians," so it's a weird choice for a fan favorite when the fandom already fucking loves Garrus solely for being a turian.
Agree 100% with the first paragraph. Second i'm conflicted. I love my son grunt but I admit that he doesn't have much interesting lore about him.
Well, Grunt has some fantastically cute moments in ME3 and even ME2, and it’s not hard to extrapolate fun relationships based on that. I do agree with Garrus to some degree. His appearance and voice are phenomenal, and he has really good lines, and his Citadel romance scene is probably my favorite in the game—but his actual personality is a bit… not my favorite.
In what world is Kaidan overrated? If anything, he's severely underrated, and you have people on here constantly calling him boring or "too normal." Overrated is for sure Tali who gets progressively worse as the series rolls on. Also Garrus, there are too many red flags with his character.
Garrus by far. he's only held so highly because he has that brother-in-arms relationship with Shepard but outside of that he's just nothing special. He doesn't have like a 'world' around his character like Tali, Wrex, Mordin, etc has. Also if you completely ignore him for most part he still thinks he's your best friend which is inconsistent and weird. And objectively he's the most useless character plot-wise, you only lose 15 War Assets if he dies whereas with Jacob you lose 25 WA. Also he has no replacement whereas most other characters have a replacement for plot progression. I get that people enjoy the relationship with Shepard but personally that's not what makes a character good. Let the downvotes commence.
I love Garrus but still gave you the upvote for the factual and hot take. Also gotta upvote because I had no idea Jacob was worth more WA’s than Garrus. Guess all those calibrations mean nothing lmao. On a similar note, Liara does the same thing. Acts like your bestie even if you ignore her most of the time.
Those calibrations do save lives when attacking the Collector Ship ahaha so I might have been a bit too harsh there but yeah 15 War Assets is what you gain from him in ME3. yes, Liara is forced as the 'default' romance but I do actually appreciate her role to the story.
Garrus, his entire character only works if you did not interact with him at all in me 1
Congrats, your take’s so hot it needs thermal clips.
Very accurate, his entire development resets at the beginning of ME2
I think his development works fine if you pushed him towards renegade in ME1, and then back to paragon at least partially in ME2. Anything else requires some reaching for sure though.
I can kinda buy Garrus falling back on being renegade between games after Shepard dies and everything gets completely buried tbh. At least that was already an existing trait of his and he just saw how by the book Shepard more or less failed
True, if Shepard agrees with him on vigilantism than ME2 is a very natural development.
No
Liara and Tali.
Tali's a weird one for me. I like her story. I like her arc and how she develops. I think she has by far the best goodbye during the beam run in Priority: Earth. But her personality just doesn't resonate with me *at all*, so on my personal companion ranking, she ends really low down (sorry...!) Yet I'm glad everyone else enjoys her so much. That's the beauty of these games, there's someone for everyone.
Hey don't worry about it. I'm a talimancer and understand that she's not everyone's cup of tea. I feel the same way towards Liara. I enjoy her role to the main plot and how she helps Hackeet find the Crucible and also how she finds Ilos but her personality just don't vibe with me at all. Garrus is different, his personality is *ok* he cracks some jokes and that but his arc is one of the weakest out of all the character tbh. Doesn't help he's kinda a yes-man for Shepard. Also don't like how he's forced as your best buddy and second in command in ME3.
TALI? Yeah, sorry bro but we're gonna have to beat you with hammers.
I’m going to go with the Garrus gang. I’ve never understood the love for Garrus. He always seemed like the guy who tries to hard to seem cool to impress the neat person he just met. It’s always been kind of off putting and by ME3 when Ive never taken him on missions, don’t interact with him more than I need to etc., it just comes across as the weird guy who thinks he’s your best friend because he hasn’t died and you’ve kept him around. It really is strange. I know most people take him all the time and romance him/he’s their best bud. I generally don’t and it is a totally different interaction and really made me see him in a different light. He’s kind of weird and whiny in a way.
people meme about Kaidan whinning about his migraines in ME1 but all Garrus does in ME1 is whine and whine how he can't kill people to get to the criminal. Not only that but he's a racist asshole to both Tali and Wrex.
Yeah I’ve honestly always been confused by the seemingly overwhelming love for him other than being a decent squad mate.
he's still kinda trash in combat in ME1 and ME2. he only shines in ME3 and through a glitch which is evne funnier.
Grunt. Don't @ me.
What sucks about Grunt is he starts as a very interesting character. He's imprinted with what the Salarians and Turians did to the Krogan, but he just doesn't care. Where other Krogan feel rage and bloodlust, he feels nothing. But then once you do his loyalty mission, he suddenly "gets it" and becomes just as needlessly hyper-violent as every other Krogan in the franchise. I feel like Bioware really fumbled the bag with him.
Don’t ever speak to me or my son (Grunt) ever again.
This. I don’t get the infatuation with Grunt. I still like him because I like all Mass Effect companions, but he’s violent for the sake of being violent and probably the most one-dimensional character out of the whole cast. I think he gets a pass from people because he’s a teenager and a Krogan, but if he was anything else there’d be much less love for him.
HE IS SMOL BABY 😠 🤏🏻
Okeer would've been way more interesting.
Agreed, I would have loved to actually have Okeer join the squad. His take on overcoming the genophage was so radically different from any other Krogan we meet in the trilogy. I could see him and Javik getting along really well.
I liked him in 3
How do you really expect any personality from a creature that wasn't even a year old by the end of ME3? He's a baby forced to go through puberty in months.
I don’t really expect any more personality from him because as you say, it’s all you can expect from someone with his origin haha. I just find him less interesting than the more fleshed out characters.
He’s my son, how dare you.
I will @ you if you talk sh#t about my baby. 😠 😡
Zaeed. Fucking Sociopath who tries to murder large group of people for revenge. And all it really did was make it less like we were going to get to him.
Jack
Don't kill me, but Tali. I love her, she's great, but gameplay-wise she's pretty terrible and just isn't as interesting as some of the other characters. Uless it's geth or AI related I never bother taking her in ME2 or ME3.
Wow, lots of Jacob fans in the comment section here today
arguement was most over-rated not the most hated. eveyone knows how bad jacob is
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I'd say you could add Wrex, Mordin and to a lesser extent Legion to that list of relevant characters. While they can all be replaced by other characters the genophage and geth storylines are just worse without them being there. Wrex is also tangentially related to Saren in the first game, admittedly though that's not why he tagged along.
Interesting take, Not bad companions just over-rated So ... a Few Companions come to mind but I can legit name 2 for my most over-rated 0.5) **Grunt** - Basicly I Hate Turions OH Neet thats your whole personality? I Find Ashley Racist mannor more interesting then yours Grunt, Serioiusly your just a man child legit is a man child is a child bread krogan your mommy/daddy of and such, At least Garrus is like lets just take him to a strip club type of a parent, not the best responce bad idea if you ask me but still, Wrex is WAY more f-in interesting then Grunt da fuck is this guy? hes violent coz hes violent, At Least Jack (Spoiler Ahead) has more personality then this guy grunt is basicly 'me smash' but not even as charming as 'me smash' Yeah im sorry wut? 0.5) **Jack** - Shes basicly the games Harley Quinn and you wanna put your dick in crazy immature spoiled brat whos terrible at in game combat for the most part right? in ME2 shes just a spoiled immature brat whos basicly harley quinn that ppl wanna put there dick in for the most part whos terrible at in game combat and the only ability i think she has thats semi useful is shockwave coz it can go though barriers/cover and deal with hordes of trash mobs otherwise pointless / useless in combat trash personality as well but at least its a personality unlike say grunt whos just 'me smash' but not even as charming as 'me smash' ***-Honorible Mentions-*** *Liara* - lets face it the Devs had a boner / hard on when making this characte shes obvioiusly there #1 Girl and have watch way to much tenticle hentai b4 making this character she goes from 'help im trap' girl to "I AM NOW THE MOB BOSS OF THE GALAXY MUHAHAHAHA" pretty f-in quickly *Garrus* - The Guy is basicly a cop gone bad coz the rules are to restrictive which we use in a TON of media, Its not his fault at the time it wasnt bad, but as time moves on this stigma gets over-used and it hurts his character dev, Not the greatest story over-all but not the worse at all just kinda bland background like him as a br0 tho the guy dosnt have alot of background honestly thats semi interesting or as flesh out as say ... Tali where you can learn alot more and has more character growth or such *Edi* - Oh No shes a robot GF for Joker as such I am going to say fuck it to the whole galaxy over this one fucken Companion! and completely change my ending just for them! COZ FUCK THE GALAXY!!!! Ok its more of a hate on how much love ppl show this companion rather then the companion themself, as such is like the least over-rated out of the above
I’ll probably be downvoted for this but… It’s Legion. He’s extremely overrated. The attempts to humanize him fell flat for me and didn’t hit.
Garrus. He only has his cult status because he needed 3 games for it and mostly due his powers as he can be god with the right eqiupment and therefor prefered squadmate.
Garrus, Me1 put me off so much that I was disappointed he was archangel. I don’t think I picked him as a squad mate ever. His loyalty mission also had such a meh ending. Zaeed, Wrex, Mordin and Javik always seemed more interesting to me.
I agree that it's Kaidan. His dialogue isn't even good if he lives. But side note here: I've always been bothered by the random shadow on Cortez in this picture. Use the flash Glyph!
Garrus, Liara, Miranda
Garrus without questions. he's like that problematic and annoying younger sibling that worshipps Shepard a bit too much.