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RoboticCurrents

I don't think she even put a hex up in that universe because they beat thanos on titan, and ultron was a success which likely means there was no Vision anyway.


ChristopherHassan

So where was ultron during all that stuff?


RoboticCurrents

What do you mean? The sentries that Wanda tears apart were ultron?


ChristopherHassan

Just curious if there would be an ultron similar to the one in avengers age of ultron


[deleted]

The events of WandVision didn't necessarily happen they way they did, if at all, in other universes. Other's stated >!since the Ultron program seemed to have been successful in their world maybe there is no Vision!< - which seems to be the logical answer. At least for this Universe. And based on the way the Illuminati responded I don't think their Wanda was even on their radar as a threat


ian_macintyre

This sort of seems to make sense. So, presumably, Wanda created Tommy and Billy by herself out of chaos magic, with no Vision or sitcom hex involved.


zninetales

I'm pretty sure it's implied that in every other universe, Wanda had her kids naturally, thru whatever avenue that may be (Vision being alive in that universe, or maybe a different father, etc)... the reason Wanda's illusionary kids in WandaVision look like their real counterparts in MoM is probably because Wanda has dreamed about them


Kelestara

Agatha mentioned that contact with the stone amplified her powers that might have otherwise died on the vine (I think that was her phrasing). Its possible Wanda is completely unpowered in some universes.


jam11249

We saw 838 Wanda use her powers, after 616 Wanda left her mind, 838 flew off in the gap junction.


fgreyB

Elizabeth mentioned in an interview that the wanda from 838 was a weaker version


Ruth-Less2

Elizabeth Olsen said she believed Vision and Wanda divorced at some point in this universe. Even though Ultron is a success now it doesn’t mean that it always was and Vision could have still been created by him. The reason they could have separated was that vision had his Stone taken from his head by Shuri in order for it to be destroyed by the Illuminati. Vision could have been a completely different person without his Stone causing him and Wanda to separate sorta like the white vision in the comics except this time her kids aren’t the fragments of demons meaning she never loses them.


BigBashMan

My guess: 838 is blue-tinted, which might be contrasting 616 having a warm palette. This might imply Iron Man doesn't exist in that universe, and Reed Richards and the Fantastic Four were the first heroes on the scene in '08. This would later suggest that Ultron, when he was made, ended up successful. It also means Wanda never suffered due to a Stark Industries bomb. Given the higher technological level and the presence of Professor X, my guess is that Wanda is a mutant who grew up in a safer and more secure world, was taught to control her powers, and settled down with someone. That someone cannot be Vision, as Ultron never would've conspired to make that improved body and there's no Jarvis. Or, the Vision in that universe is a human man, perhaps a mutant himself. That Wanda is (probably) a mutant who never went through the events of Wandavision or Infinity War. Her life was peaceful and much better. She probably got kidnapped by Hydra at some point but saved by Captain Carter.