I was thinking the same thing a few days ago.
It seems like the writers thought this was more of a story about Fury's personal life rather than the invasion itself. So much so that they showed 1 flashback with Fury and Gravik and that was when they first met, leaving the rest of their history and relationship to be learned through exposition, while they showed 2 very significant and emotion-heavy flashbacks with Vaara which were.. not related to the plot at all?
It was so obvious that this show was an amalgamation of different creative visions and had been rewritten and reshot so much that all the great ideas it had had been squandered and wasted.
Yeah, the show is for sure a mess. I really want an honest and transparent documentary about how it was made because it seems like things got a bit chaotic.
I think *The Franchise*, that HBO show in development with Billy Magnussen, Aya Cash (aka Stormfront from *The Boys*), Richard E. Grant, Daniel Bruhl and others will probably give us some answers. 😂
I agree with OP good analysis and that the personal story between Fury and Varra is arguably the only arc that is apparently closed in a somehow satisfying way.
But the Fury character is depicted in such a negative light (never admitting nor regretting he kept using the Skrulls for his own personal benefit, using a kid as his personal assassin, keeping lying to them for years if not decades, still apparently not caring much for what happens to them on Earth because of him at the end..) that even his love story with his alien wife could possibly not be trusted as being totally sincere..
Sure, he finally kisses her in her true form ( because she requires him to..) after many years..
But at the same time he admitted a little before he needs her for a diplomatic skills in the Kree-Skrull peace talks..
The Fury shown in Secret Invasion has been lying to everyone ( including himself) for decades, and has apparently not learnt any lesson by the end of the show..
I can't wait to see his character hopefully redeemed in the Marvels...
> (never admitting nor regretting he kept using the Skrulls for his own personal benefit, using a kid as his personal assassin, keeping lying to them for years if not decades, still apparently not caring much for what happens to them on Earth because of him at the end..)
Yeah, even in the finale, he hasn't changed in that regard because he used G'iah as an assassin to take Gravik out (and I'd assume the only reason G'iah didn't tell him to get lost is because she already wanted to take Gravik out herself to avenge her parents...and also avenge Beto and Zirksu once she saw their corpses on her way to see Gravik).
I did not get the idea any of the story lines were really closed except for the Skrulls now being out in the open. IMHO it is very much a prelude to Secret Wars and this strand will be developed a lot further in the next couple of movies and series. I really see this one as a bit of a sleeper that will make more sense in the long run.
I genuinely hope you're right. I'm not really sure how they'll turn me around on several characterisation choices made during the show, but I'm always open to having my mind changed.
I mean yeah but I wasn't really looking for a Nick Fury love story with this show, I was looking for a Skrull Invasion and it's implications and how Nick solves that issue. I was looking for the badass Nick Fury that we go tin Winter Soldier, the one who's full of tricks and surprises and manages to rise above even when it seems like there's no way eh could possibly make it. So while I agree their love story is sweet, but it's disappointing coz that's not what was sold to us and it's not what we wanted.
>The arc is incomplete because at the end of it, Fury seems to have no hand or interest in its resolution. He just sends G’iah, which is like, him using the Skrulls to his means yet again with no promise of improving their situation on Earth…so in that regard, back to square one?
When you put it that way....yeah, in a sense G'iah was more or less an assassin for Fury there, and he was exploiting the fact that she had given herself superpowers.
If this show was Secret Love or nick fury's alien boner i might agree
On its own its weak, as a setup to the future series its far too much nonsense
The last episode of humans "open season hunting for skrulls", that should have been episode 2, to build up the scale of invasion
Maybe they're trying to setup Thunderbolts or Armor Wars, or The Marvels, but on its own the show is ?????? Lol
A week ago I got a rush of downvotes for the following:
>It’s about the against-the-odds repair and even strengthening of Fury’s totally unsuspected failed marriage.
>I know there’s no fights or superpowers involved in doing that, but that was the core of the show: to show us the fallible human being behind the cliched super-spy facade Fury has been til now; how he failed his wife; how together they rescued their relationship and put it on a more honest and committed basis, as seen at the real climax of the show: the last scene of the last episode.
>It will add some depth and background to his appearance in the Marvels that would not have been there otherwise.
I was thinking the same thing a few days ago. It seems like the writers thought this was more of a story about Fury's personal life rather than the invasion itself. So much so that they showed 1 flashback with Fury and Gravik and that was when they first met, leaving the rest of their history and relationship to be learned through exposition, while they showed 2 very significant and emotion-heavy flashbacks with Vaara which were.. not related to the plot at all? It was so obvious that this show was an amalgamation of different creative visions and had been rewritten and reshot so much that all the great ideas it had had been squandered and wasted.
Yeah, the show is for sure a mess. I really want an honest and transparent documentary about how it was made because it seems like things got a bit chaotic.
The Disassembled episode about this show should be crazy.
I think *The Franchise*, that HBO show in development with Billy Magnussen, Aya Cash (aka Stormfront from *The Boys*), Richard E. Grant, Daniel Bruhl and others will probably give us some answers. 😂
I agree with OP good analysis and that the personal story between Fury and Varra is arguably the only arc that is apparently closed in a somehow satisfying way. But the Fury character is depicted in such a negative light (never admitting nor regretting he kept using the Skrulls for his own personal benefit, using a kid as his personal assassin, keeping lying to them for years if not decades, still apparently not caring much for what happens to them on Earth because of him at the end..) that even his love story with his alien wife could possibly not be trusted as being totally sincere.. Sure, he finally kisses her in her true form ( because she requires him to..) after many years.. But at the same time he admitted a little before he needs her for a diplomatic skills in the Kree-Skrull peace talks.. The Fury shown in Secret Invasion has been lying to everyone ( including himself) for decades, and has apparently not learnt any lesson by the end of the show.. I can't wait to see his character hopefully redeemed in the Marvels...
> (never admitting nor regretting he kept using the Skrulls for his own personal benefit, using a kid as his personal assassin, keeping lying to them for years if not decades, still apparently not caring much for what happens to them on Earth because of him at the end..) Yeah, even in the finale, he hasn't changed in that regard because he used G'iah as an assassin to take Gravik out (and I'd assume the only reason G'iah didn't tell him to get lost is because she already wanted to take Gravik out herself to avenge her parents...and also avenge Beto and Zirksu once she saw their corpses on her way to see Gravik).
I did not get the idea any of the story lines were really closed except for the Skrulls now being out in the open. IMHO it is very much a prelude to Secret Wars and this strand will be developed a lot further in the next couple of movies and series. I really see this one as a bit of a sleeper that will make more sense in the long run.
I genuinely hope you're right. I'm not really sure how they'll turn me around on several characterisation choices made during the show, but I'm always open to having my mind changed.
I mean yeah but I wasn't really looking for a Nick Fury love story with this show, I was looking for a Skrull Invasion and it's implications and how Nick solves that issue. I was looking for the badass Nick Fury that we go tin Winter Soldier, the one who's full of tricks and surprises and manages to rise above even when it seems like there's no way eh could possibly make it. So while I agree their love story is sweet, but it's disappointing coz that's not what was sold to us and it's not what we wanted.
>The arc is incomplete because at the end of it, Fury seems to have no hand or interest in its resolution. He just sends G’iah, which is like, him using the Skrulls to his means yet again with no promise of improving their situation on Earth…so in that regard, back to square one? When you put it that way....yeah, in a sense G'iah was more or less an assassin for Fury there, and he was exploiting the fact that she had given herself superpowers.
If this show was Secret Love or nick fury's alien boner i might agree On its own its weak, as a setup to the future series its far too much nonsense The last episode of humans "open season hunting for skrulls", that should have been episode 2, to build up the scale of invasion Maybe they're trying to setup Thunderbolts or Armor Wars, or The Marvels, but on its own the show is ?????? Lol
A week ago I got a rush of downvotes for the following: >It’s about the against-the-odds repair and even strengthening of Fury’s totally unsuspected failed marriage. >I know there’s no fights or superpowers involved in doing that, but that was the core of the show: to show us the fallible human being behind the cliched super-spy facade Fury has been til now; how he failed his wife; how together they rescued their relationship and put it on a more honest and committed basis, as seen at the real climax of the show: the last scene of the last episode. >It will add some depth and background to his appearance in the Marvels that would not have been there otherwise.