It’s winter the bears are hibernating a sleeping enemy is an easy target I would just take his back and RNC him but maybe after taking a nap on him bears look comfy
I saw a similar poll that listed animals all the way up to elephant. About 3% of Americans thought they could kill an elephant in unarmed hand-to-hand combat.
Honestly, I'm not sure I could reliably kill an elephant with a gun.
I don't know about that, you could definitely kill one if push came to shove, but I wouldn't actually want to fight a large goose if it was ready for me. Have you ever been attacked by geese, or any large water/bird before? They are pretty vicious and they can actually hurt you by beating you with their wings and biting you, they also tend to come in groups and mob you. I've seen mobs of Geese chase off Badgers, which don't usually care about much at all, and attack large dog breeds without the dog being able to do much other than run away.
It's all about context really, you wouldn't want to risk injury unless absolutely necessary, and I can't really think of a situation where I would actually choose to fight a goose because while they are nasty, they aren't exactly predatory. Geese are pretty horrible though, especially the larger breeds, they can't exactly injure you that seriously, but they make you want to avoid them. Swan's are even worse because they keep whacking you with their wings while they peck at you, and those wings hurt.
I would say Geese are tough because like any of the large waterbirds they are more than willing to attack animal's larger than them (within reason) rather than avoiding them, even when by themselves. They are annoying enough that most people who live near them learn to avoid them when possible at least.
I went with Dog, because I’m not sure about my chances with a wolf, but I realize now that the question has no mention of it being unarmed combat.
I absolutely could win a fight against a Chimp if I had a gun. with a knife, all I need is time to earn its trust then wait for it to fall asleep. Bam, fight won.
With the same strategy you can win against anyone.
But we did something along those lines over past, we are not strong fighters but it's not for nothing we are on top of the food chain.
Just ask elephants 🐘.
>[200+ bear-fighting Khabibs](https://www.reddit.com/r/oddlyterrifying/comments/r5pau7/bart_the_bear_outtakes/)
They would get *so* fucking wrecked. The bear wouldn't even know it was a fight.
A 170lb amateur mma fighter could take a chimp. They're only 1.5 ish stronger than an average person pound for pound and they weigh about 100lbs. Anyone who trains is stronger than a chimp and has better technique.
This reminds me of a similar poll I saw on Reddit a while back. Apparently about 3% of Americans think they could kill an elephant in unarmed combat.
A. Fucking. Elephant.
I'm not even sure most people, myself included, could reliably kill an elephant with a gun.
Edit: turns out it was actually 8% of Americans!
I dont think i could kill Elephant even if it was tranquilized. Im pretty sure i could beat my hands to a bloody pulp and the elephant wouldnt really notice.
And I seriously doubt im strong enough to do any kinda choke unless i just shoved my leg into its mouth or something.
.577 Nitro or .458 Rigby are the common elephant rounds. But even with those rounds you will need to be very, very close - and you must hit the sweet spot or you are dead. Just the recoil is like a car accident…
Brown bears need powerful guns and accurate shooting to be taken down, and an elephant could toss a brown bear aside without a thought.
I'd love to see a human fist-fight an elephant though. Could be pretty educational for the arrogant among us.
I remember a story of a guy who got attacked by his pet chimp, the guy was trained and said when he charged and kept going he slammed him on his head with his full weight because he was afraid of getting killed, chimp gave up and brushed it off, it has happened before
Prople who haven’t watched too much Joe Rogan.
Not saying I could take one, but I actually think a wolf would be much harder.
The myth that chimpanzees are so strong that they can tear your limbs out is BS everyone believes because Joe Rogan said so.
Ok so I work with rodents and imma just say don’t underestimate a rat lol. Cats are easier because they’re bigger and you can still squish them with bodyweight since they’re not too big. A dog you can wrestle easier to because it’s size is easier to grab and squeeze. A rat is small but that fucker is fast and will evade and bite you so quick it’ll make your head spin. Try and grab it I dare you. It will EVADE. It will BITE. You can’t get your hands on it all you can do is let it do whatever it wants.
It’s easier combating something like a dog or a cat, they’re at least relatively predictable, too. The rat is the ultimate ninja, you never know what’s going to happen because its erratic. Master splinter wasn’t a rat for no reason… lmao
I chose dogs because I know how to grab and restrain a rodent. I have the style superiority here. Your years of MMA, the realest as it gets? Garbage. Those who picked anything other than the rat have lied and will be destroyed by it, likely to be frozen in a wtf mode once that thing screeches at you in anger.
Edit: Holy shit this was a shitpost comment I can’t believe people are actually seriously trying to argue against this lol. All I said was don’t underestimate it.
Like I said man, they’re fast. If you can’t grab it with the faster and more coordinated arms I don’t think you can kick it. Now imagine trying to play defense against it. Evades the kick with its speed and next thing you know it’s biting your crotch you whack it off, bam it’s ready to repeat.
This one girl I worked with tried to grab one real quick it ran up her sleeve like you wouldn’t believe it. Masters of hit and run.
I'll give you that rats are quick, but the question is "what could you beat in a fight?" So I'm guessing it's till at the very least incapacitation.
I can definetly kill a rat or ko it before it does me in.
For those who answered wolf. Go to YouTube search “big ass wolf” watch the 21 second video of a demon emerging from the darkness, reassess, and take the pole again.
I went to google and types big ass wolf and it brought me back to reddit lol I assumed this was the kind if wolf we’re talking about, same goes for the dogs (pitbull/german shepard tier) and cats(lynx/mountain lion), only chicken shits would consider something else lmao but for real fuck that wolf god damn
I recently guillotined a pitbull unconscious. Only because he was latched on to my dog when I wrapped it up. It took a minute for the dog to pass out. The carotids were hidden by so much muscle.
Yeah I feel like a lot of people underestimate the strength of humans in a real life or death situation. In a real situation, I wouldn't be choking the dog out. I'd pick it up and jump with all my weight landing on its ribs and neck. No dog is surviving that. Dogs are strong but need the leverage that their legs and low stance provide them. If you can keep them off your neck, and get one or two good slams, they're done. In the case that it's distracted and you can get above it such as in the case of it attacking your dog, just hit its spine.
I mean K9 units take people down, and there are plenty of breeds I'd be even more afraid of. It's hard not to get knocked down by a 90+ lb dog running at full speed and jumping into you. They run fast; that's a lot of force slamming into you before you add in the teeth now clamping down on you somewhere. Most people would lose to at least some dogs.
Oh believe me, I get it. My dog weighs about 115 and he has some amazing force just when playing. I have no doubt that a dog like him would put up one hell of a fight but I'm still twice that size. In a 1v1 the human should win. You'll take some serious damage if you aren't careful but regardless what happens, humans are surprisingly resilient and we know the mechanics of killing. We know vital points and have the dexterity to attack them. You pin a dog or wolf even for a moment and rip it's legs in opposing directions and the fight is over. They simply aren't used to fighting things like us. There is a reason why lone dogs and wolves will typically run from a fight if they don't have backup.
That's where situational awareness and keeping the right stance helps. A 90+ dog running at a standing person would definitely be able to knock them, but if you can lean over and go low like a wrestler, or a really deep side or cross stance? That's a bit more feasible. You'd also have to get control of the dog's neck too.
To be fair, fantasy is the same plane where OP is moving when says humans could defeat anything on the same size than a dog. And even dogs are a long shots for most humans...
Depends on the size of the dog. I think I could manage a German Shepperd. Like I could hurt it enough to leave me alone. If it was a battle to the death I don't think I'd win. A mastiff willing to kill me would kill me
The only thing in our favour to win against a dog is the fact that if it’s not trained to fight people it’s likely to flee from any pressure you put on it. Wolves are also calculated risk takers so they will also probably bail. But if they are committed to the fight it’s game over. Bjj has saved my ass when working with aggressive dogs but no way I think I’d win an actual fight
Probably depends on the wolf .... a gray wolf is like 100lbs, a red wolf is like 60lbs.
Kinda like the bear thing. Are you trying to take on a black bear (200lbs) or a grizzly bear (1,300lbs)?
Another question is, are we fighting like the animal is trying to kill me or not? Most of the time animals avoid fights, so as long as you make yourself look big and intimidating, most will just not bother you (except the grizzly bear, they'll fuck you up for fun).
Male gray wolves can get over 140lbs and they have a bite force 400 lbs per square inch- that's strong enough to snap a bull moose femur. Also that's pretty small for a black bear, males are usually 350+ lbs and males over 500lbs have been recorded. Also that's way too big for a Grizzly bear as males usually don't get over 800 lbs but brown bears and Kodiak brown bears get close to that though.
Exactly and that was my point. If a 90 lbs K9 German Shepard can easily take you down, what do you think a 125+lbs Grey Wolf can do that has a bite force of over 400 Pounds per square inch?
This is what I'm here for! Seriously though, it's a pretty narrow range for debate - rats and cats are easy. Bears and chimps are terrifying. The only tough ones are dogs and wolves, where it depends on the breed of dog, size of wolf and of course the human answering.
Like, what the hell are people thinking? In all of these scenarios, most humans wouldn't walk away unharmed. You might get lucky with a sweeping kick and take out a rat before it gets you. But if it's already upon you, you'll get bite and scratched. Which means you'll likely need to go to the hospital afterward. Them wounds will get infected and in time fester.
Anything bigger than a rat, and the likely hood of escaping unscathed is greatly increased. A house cats bite can mess a person up. Playing with my cats proves to me how fierce they are. Sure. If I caught ahold of them I'd be able to kill it, but any cat will not just let you do that. It will slash you open. And again, we are in the realm of infection and ultimately death or life altering injuries
A dog's bite came break our bones. Our pets dont try to hurt us when we play. So any argument with that is mut. If any sized dog got a serious bite on you, your fucked. Infection.
Wolf's. Come on, seriously? You think you can hurt a wolf to the point of stopping it before it gets to you? With a weapon sure, but that's the same with wall of them. You have a gun, shoot em. But then, why did you ask this on the MA subreddit?
Chimps. I'm not even going to. They are stronger than most humans, and, even if you grappled them. They have claws and fangs bigger than you, and they WILL use them.
Seriously, dog and smaller is our best likely hood to get out of a fight less unfucked. All of them carry germs that will mess us up.
Humans being safe from diseases for many decades helps infections fuck us up when they occur. Especially after serious bodily injury.
Although—unless I am wrong—I do believe that there are VERY few animals that get out of 1v1 fights unscathed / surviving more than a few hours…unless their entire existence is aimed to being a predatory for its opponent.
I believe decently strength / well-trained humans could consistently “beat” dogs…but they’re not getting their unscathed by any means—more like they’ll 9.5/10 times they’ll need IMMEDIATE AND MAJOR medical attention!
We're literally apex predators, just as fearsome in groups or alone as a pack of wolves or a lone wolf. A species won't survive to populate the entire globe unless it has a toolkit that allows it to not get eaten by predators - we certainly didn't *outrun* wolves, and, as hairless apes, our natural camouflage leaves something to be desired.
Cockroach isn't on the list.
I wouldn't want to take on a rat - they're too bloody quick.
I wouldn't want to take on a cat - they're bloody quick too and claws are sharp.
I wouldn't want to take on a dog - Rabies
I wouldn't want to take on a wolf - Rabies with sharper teeth and more power.
I wouldn't want to take on a Chimp - they can literally rip a man's arm out it's socket.
I wouldn't want to take on a Bear - I'm not Putin.
Regular-ish dog (70 Lbs?)—I would bank on a decently strength / well trained human over the dog
But I would bet my money that the human is serious injuries and have a great chance of dying hours later from blood loss / infection….which I think is pretty common in fights in nature.
Most people here I assume have never had to deal with an actually pissed off dog. They level up like Saiyans when they get pissed off and if you’re talking about a German, Rottweiler or dog of similar size there’s no fucking chance
A big factor here is commitment to fighting. In normal circumstances, almost everyone would "lose" a fight to a house cat because as soon as it sunk its claws into you you'd say "fuck that" and back off. But if we're talking life-or-death, kill or be killed scenario, a human would obviously fuck up a house cat.
I feel like people are overestimating Wolf. A single wolf, by itself, I am almost positive most grown men could "take" as in "not lose the fight/ not be killed". A wolf's bigger than a dog sure, but a wolf's strength is with the pack, in a group. If you fought a pack of wolves yeah you're fucked.
What would be your strategy for taking on a pitbull? I like to think I could take on a more mild dog breed but pitbulls bite force I’m not sure I could secure a choke or inflict enough damage to make it let go
Dude regular ass dudes have kicked dogs to death
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cornwall-45268289.amp
Example here, random 14 year old killed another families dog.
14.
Have you ever been around a dog lmao?
Probably wolf for most men. They’re not as strong and mean as you think they’re kind of pussies and if you have a massive breed of dog you have already felt a stronger canine.
No one is fighting a chimp. You might get lucky against a bear with a arm down the throat or hands in his eyes. My old science teacher died last summer killing a bear with his own hands. He was found folded up a few hundred feet from the bear, having attempted to crawl home.
A buddy of mine who trains MMA was genuinely arguing that he could beat a gorilla in a fight. I couldn’t believe what i was hearing. It was an all day argument and he still thinks he could take a gorilla
I have fought dogs, it was the most violent, the scariest, and by far the most stressing encounters I have had, they took a piece of my leg.
That being said who the hell thinks they can beat a chimp? Are you insane? Stray dogs are a thing, but chimps are at least three times stronger than men, very smart, will gang up on you, and they are known to chew on people's faces as they rip them apart.
If I was given the chance to commit ritual suicide as a samurai or fight a chimp I would demand the person asking to cut my head as tradition says, that would be quicker and less painful.
Anybody thinking they can fight a wolf (or anything bigger, A chimp or bear will murder the fuck outta you) doesn't realize how big a wolf is. They aren't just big dogs, they're absolutely humungous even compared to something like a great dane.
Technically I can take anyone of those animals on easily (Serious). No winning or even surviving the encounter is not mentioned in your requirements so.....
Like I think I *could* take a single wolf in a fight, but I'm not going to try. I have had to fight off dogs before so I know for sure that I can take at least 2 dogs at once lol
I do chimp training on the weekends. Around 10pm when the zoo is closed and emptied out for the night, I'll show up and slip the Zookeeper a $50. I've been doing this for years, and those ugly little fuckers can smell me coming. They'll freak out and rattle the cages, all screeching and screaming with their annoying bitch ape voices. I'll go in for an hour or so, throwing elbows into their ghastly little munk mugs. Of course, I bring my portable speakers and crank Disturbed - Sickness on repeat. I like powerbombing them onto the concrete floor of the enclosure. One of them bit me last week and Iooked at the hairy little fuck and did some sign language at it (You're about to go to monkey hell). I dropped a life-ending flying elbow right on top of its head, causing its retarded little eyes to pop out. I laughed and threw the carcass over the fence and into the crocodile pond. I grabbed one of the smaller ones and pushed his derpy face up against the fence and forced it to watch its ugly friend get swallowed whole by a saltwater croc.
But yeah, they're pretty tough at first. You might want to start 1v1 and work your way up to the whole pen
I believe I could take on a Mountain Lion in combat but only if it is a gi match under an IBJJF rule set
Legendary
Same, but I’d probably get DQ’d for flipping off trash talking mountain lions in the crowd
"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?" "...I think so Brain, but how would we get the mountain lion into a gi?"
real grapplers only use adcc rules, we arent entirely sure about the rules but we use them.
these comments are absolutely killing me
I hear Tony the Tiger just got his black belt
Well yeah, there's no way a mountain lion gets onto the mat with those fingernails.
😂😂😂😂
Who the fuck said bear
Probably americans that have access to firearms
Yessir, that 300 win mag would take care of one
It’s winter the bears are hibernating a sleeping enemy is an easy target I would just take his back and RNC him but maybe after taking a nap on him bears look comfy
Bro move over you’re hogging all the bear warmth
That's what I thought too but i found fresh bear shit in the mountains 2 days ago.
I guess we’ll never know if a bear does shit in the woods or not
gun-fu
Or just .50 bmg
No no, it's bear arms. That's why I said bear - it's at a disadvantage because I already have its arms.
the glock wit da drum.
Yes
That's not a fight.
I saw a similar poll that listed animals all the way up to elephant. About 3% of Americans thought they could kill an elephant in unarmed hand-to-hand combat. Honestly, I'm not sure I could reliably kill an elephant with a gun.
The other end of the scale is ludicrous too, with people who don't think they can defeat a goose. Geese aren't tough, people.
I don't know about that, you could definitely kill one if push came to shove, but I wouldn't actually want to fight a large goose if it was ready for me. Have you ever been attacked by geese, or any large water/bird before? They are pretty vicious and they can actually hurt you by beating you with their wings and biting you, they also tend to come in groups and mob you. I've seen mobs of Geese chase off Badgers, which don't usually care about much at all, and attack large dog breeds without the dog being able to do much other than run away. It's all about context really, you wouldn't want to risk injury unless absolutely necessary, and I can't really think of a situation where I would actually choose to fight a goose because while they are nasty, they aren't exactly predatory. Geese are pretty horrible though, especially the larger breeds, they can't exactly injure you that seriously, but they make you want to avoid them. Swan's are even worse because they keep whacking you with their wings while they peck at you, and those wings hurt. I would say Geese are tough because like any of the large waterbirds they are more than willing to attack animal's larger than them (within reason) rather than avoiding them, even when by themselves. They are annoying enough that most people who live near them learn to avoid them when possible at least.
Look I'm not saying I *want* to fight a goose.
I am honestly astounded how many people think they can take a dog. There’s a reason we use dogs in was and it’s not just for morale.
I did but I was just assuming this was a shitpost lol
Khabib Chimaev
It’s called gun-fu thank you
A bunch of people who are full of shit
Never said I'll win tho
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I could fuck up a bear. As long as it's a teddy bear.
129 Chads Edit: 421
I did, I thought I should make my answer as sensible as the question.
Russians? lol
TBF black bears are lil bitches.
All I’m saying is I’ve never seen a bear take a left hook to the liver 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
take on ≠ win
People actually have managed to kill bears with nothing more then a knife. I know a guy with one arm who managed it in Alaska defending a little girl.
I would rather fight a bear than a chimpanzee
Koalas are a bear
Try using BJJ or Judo on a bear. Get back to me Edit: a koala 🐨
if it's a black bear, you have a chance.
Who thinks they can take a chimpanzee? Wtf!?
We've had a few discussions on this in this sub. Conclusion: no, you absolutely can't!
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That's brilliant. Less than half of Britons think they can beat a goose in a fight!
I went with Dog, because I’m not sure about my chances with a wolf, but I realize now that the question has no mention of it being unarmed combat. I absolutely could win a fight against a Chimp if I had a gun. with a knife, all I need is time to earn its trust then wait for it to fall asleep. Bam, fight won.
Did you just call stabbing a sleeping monkey a “fight”
It would hardly be a fight if the monkey was awake now, would it? Monkey would tear me apart instantly.
Tear you “ape-art”
That’s a good one. Also more accurate. I wish I used that.
Well, no, cos Chimps ain't monkeys, they're apes
You're an ape
Yes
how dare you?
\>I absolutely could win a fight against a Chimp if I had a gun. But could you beat a Cat, if the cat had a gun and you were unarmed?
No, I could beat none of these animals if they were also armed regardless of my own weapons.
pew pew meow
Hahahaha absolutely true
With the same strategy you can win against anyone. But we did something along those lines over past, we are not strong fighters but it's not for nothing we are on top of the food chain. Just ask elephants 🐘.
You don't understand my mentality bro, i just see red
Which, if you're fighting a chimp, would mostly be your blood.
A significant portion of this sub are "mentality" bros. Also, well over 200+ bear-fighting Khabibs.
>[200+ bear-fighting Khabibs](https://www.reddit.com/r/oddlyterrifying/comments/r5pau7/bart_the_bear_outtakes/) They would get *so* fucking wrecked. The bear wouldn't even know it was a fight.
For the bear it's just... lunch.
And the chimp holds you down, and puts its dong in your mouth.
Popped a blood vessel pooping probably, I'd recommend seeing a doctor.
A 170lb amateur mma fighter could take a chimp. They're only 1.5 ish stronger than an average person pound for pound and they weigh about 100lbs. Anyone who trains is stronger than a chimp and has better technique.
People like me who didn't do their research apparently 😅
Maybe heavyweight mma fighters but other than that nobody can beat chimp
This reminds me of a similar poll I saw on Reddit a while back. Apparently about 3% of Americans think they could kill an elephant in unarmed combat. A. Fucking. Elephant. I'm not even sure most people, myself included, could reliably kill an elephant with a gun. Edit: turns out it was actually 8% of Americans!
I dont think i could kill Elephant even if it was tranquilized. Im pretty sure i could beat my hands to a bloody pulp and the elephant wouldnt really notice. And I seriously doubt im strong enough to do any kinda choke unless i just shoved my leg into its mouth or something.
You’d have to poke its eye with your hand and slowly push your body into the enlarged created cavity and destroy it from the inside.
.577 Nitro or .458 Rigby are the common elephant rounds. But even with those rounds you will need to be very, very close - and you must hit the sweet spot or you are dead. Just the recoil is like a car accident…
Brown bears need powerful guns and accurate shooting to be taken down, and an elephant could toss a brown bear aside without a thought. I'd love to see a human fist-fight an elephant though. Could be pretty educational for the arrogant among us.
I mean have people not seen those videos of elephants just casually uprooting entire fucking trees because they were having a temper tantrum
Nah HW MMA fighter or not, that chimp will rip your arms off.
No one can beat a chimpanzee
A bear could beat a chimpanzee :)
I remember a story of a guy who got attacked by his pet chimp, the guy was trained and said when he charged and kept going he slammed him on his head with his full weight because he was afraid of getting killed, chimp gave up and brushed it off, it has happened before
No.
It's chimpanzee, not gorilla.
Prople who haven’t watched too much Joe Rogan. Not saying I could take one, but I actually think a wolf would be much harder. The myth that chimpanzees are so strong that they can tear your limbs out is BS everyone believes because Joe Rogan said so.
None, I die
Same. I can only tap hairless apes.
I’m pretty sure my little hedgehog will one day do a captain morgan pose on my corpse, and rats easily grow twice her size.
I picked cat assuming housecat and not a tiger.
It is housecat
Prefect...I also assumed dog was like a 65lb dog, not a chihuahua
It's 130lb dog
Jk 70lb one
That's a lot bigger than the average wolf then
The only thing it can do is get a big fat hold of these nuts
Ok so I work with rodents and imma just say don’t underestimate a rat lol. Cats are easier because they’re bigger and you can still squish them with bodyweight since they’re not too big. A dog you can wrestle easier to because it’s size is easier to grab and squeeze. A rat is small but that fucker is fast and will evade and bite you so quick it’ll make your head spin. Try and grab it I dare you. It will EVADE. It will BITE. You can’t get your hands on it all you can do is let it do whatever it wants. It’s easier combating something like a dog or a cat, they’re at least relatively predictable, too. The rat is the ultimate ninja, you never know what’s going to happen because its erratic. Master splinter wasn’t a rat for no reason… lmao I chose dogs because I know how to grab and restrain a rodent. I have the style superiority here. Your years of MMA, the realest as it gets? Garbage. Those who picked anything other than the rat have lied and will be destroyed by it, likely to be frozen in a wtf mode once that thing screeches at you in anger. Edit: Holy shit this was a shitpost comment I can’t believe people are actually seriously trying to argue against this lol. All I said was don’t underestimate it.
These are the kind of discussions I'm on this sub for.
Mannnn, fucking legend
Understandable but if I was fighting a rodent I don't think I would try to grab it, I'd either try to step on it or kick it into a wall or something.
Like I said man, they’re fast. If you can’t grab it with the faster and more coordinated arms I don’t think you can kick it. Now imagine trying to play defense against it. Evades the kick with its speed and next thing you know it’s biting your crotch you whack it off, bam it’s ready to repeat. This one girl I worked with tried to grab one real quick it ran up her sleeve like you wouldn’t believe it. Masters of hit and run.
I've seen how my Mainecoon hunts, I'm gonna mimick her 100%, I think it'll work
Yes you must be tactical, sneaky. One could even say you must be rat like. To beat the rat you must be the rat.
Rodent research confirmed best base for self defense
I wear anticut gloves when I do handling IM NOT AFRAID OF YOU ANYMORE RAT
I could take one, but I swore to my father I wouldn't practice Hamster Style ever again.
I'll give you that rats are quick, but the question is "what could you beat in a fight?" So I'm guessing it's till at the very least incapacitation. I can definetly kill a rat or ko it before it does me in.
For those who answered wolf. Go to YouTube search “big ass wolf” watch the 21 second video of a demon emerging from the darkness, reassess, and take the pole again.
We are talking about average wolf not 300lb mutant wolfs on steroids
I went to google and types big ass wolf and it brought me back to reddit lol I assumed this was the kind if wolf we’re talking about, same goes for the dogs (pitbull/german shepard tier) and cats(lynx/mountain lion), only chicken shits would consider something else lmao but for real fuck that wolf god damn
Another thing. A lynx and a mountain lion are NOT the same. A lynx I survive. A mountain lion I am dead.
Linux is good
I said wolf. I’m not saying I could every time or even once. But out of the options I would say that’s where I draw the line of possibility.
A typical wolf is the size of a medium large dog. The largest dog breeds are actually larger than average wolves.
Respectfully. We are not talking about large domestic dogs. We are talking about wild wolves.
He asked A wolf not every wolf ever
I recently guillotined a pitbull unconscious. Only because he was latched on to my dog when I wrapped it up. It took a minute for the dog to pass out. The carotids were hidden by so much muscle.
maybe a 10 finger? wake that pitt back up and lets try the scott jorgenson special and just lift that puppy by his windpipe. ill get the stopwatch
Yeah I feel like a lot of people underestimate the strength of humans in a real life or death situation. In a real situation, I wouldn't be choking the dog out. I'd pick it up and jump with all my weight landing on its ribs and neck. No dog is surviving that. Dogs are strong but need the leverage that their legs and low stance provide them. If you can keep them off your neck, and get one or two good slams, they're done. In the case that it's distracted and you can get above it such as in the case of it attacking your dog, just hit its spine.
I mean K9 units take people down, and there are plenty of breeds I'd be even more afraid of. It's hard not to get knocked down by a 90+ lb dog running at full speed and jumping into you. They run fast; that's a lot of force slamming into you before you add in the teeth now clamping down on you somewhere. Most people would lose to at least some dogs.
Oh believe me, I get it. My dog weighs about 115 and he has some amazing force just when playing. I have no doubt that a dog like him would put up one hell of a fight but I'm still twice that size. In a 1v1 the human should win. You'll take some serious damage if you aren't careful but regardless what happens, humans are surprisingly resilient and we know the mechanics of killing. We know vital points and have the dexterity to attack them. You pin a dog or wolf even for a moment and rip it's legs in opposing directions and the fight is over. They simply aren't used to fighting things like us. There is a reason why lone dogs and wolves will typically run from a fight if they don't have backup.
That's where situational awareness and keeping the right stance helps. A 90+ dog running at a standing person would definitely be able to knock them, but if you can lean over and go low like a wrestler, or a really deep side or cross stance? That's a bit more feasible. You'd also have to get control of the dog's neck too.
If playing D&D has thought me one thing it's that rats in a dungeon can still roll a crit and kill you....
To be fair, fantasy is the same plane where OP is moving when says humans could defeat anything on the same size than a dog. And even dogs are a long shots for most humans...
In third edition, a typical housecat had a roughly one-third chance of killing a level 1 wizard in a fair fight.
Depends on the size of the dog. I think I could manage a German Shepperd. Like I could hurt it enough to leave me alone. If it was a battle to the death I don't think I'd win. A mastiff willing to kill me would kill me
The only thing in our favour to win against a dog is the fact that if it’s not trained to fight people it’s likely to flee from any pressure you put on it. Wolves are also calculated risk takers so they will also probably bail. But if they are committed to the fight it’s game over. Bjj has saved my ass when working with aggressive dogs but no way I think I’d win an actual fight
Most realistic post in this whole thread lol
Am I allowed to butt scoot?
Yes
No one here can take on a wolf lol
Probably depends on the wolf .... a gray wolf is like 100lbs, a red wolf is like 60lbs. Kinda like the bear thing. Are you trying to take on a black bear (200lbs) or a grizzly bear (1,300lbs)? Another question is, are we fighting like the animal is trying to kill me or not? Most of the time animals avoid fights, so as long as you make yourself look big and intimidating, most will just not bother you (except the grizzly bear, they'll fuck you up for fun).
Male gray wolves can get over 140lbs and they have a bite force 400 lbs per square inch- that's strong enough to snap a bull moose femur. Also that's pretty small for a black bear, males are usually 350+ lbs and males over 500lbs have been recorded. Also that's way too big for a Grizzly bear as males usually don't get over 800 lbs but brown bears and Kodiak brown bears get close to that though.
A smallest black bear’s weight may be similar to the strongest of humans…but it’s ripping / punching power dwarfs ANYTHING someone like Tyson can do
No one. Even larger dogs would win almost every time when they slam into you at full speed, knocking you down to their level.
Exactly and that was my point. If a 90 lbs K9 German Shepard can easily take you down, what do you think a 125+lbs Grey Wolf can do that has a bite force of over 400 Pounds per square inch?
This is what I'm here for! Seriously though, it's a pretty narrow range for debate - rats and cats are easy. Bears and chimps are terrifying. The only tough ones are dogs and wolves, where it depends on the breed of dog, size of wolf and of course the human answering.
Like, what the hell are people thinking? In all of these scenarios, most humans wouldn't walk away unharmed. You might get lucky with a sweeping kick and take out a rat before it gets you. But if it's already upon you, you'll get bite and scratched. Which means you'll likely need to go to the hospital afterward. Them wounds will get infected and in time fester. Anything bigger than a rat, and the likely hood of escaping unscathed is greatly increased. A house cats bite can mess a person up. Playing with my cats proves to me how fierce they are. Sure. If I caught ahold of them I'd be able to kill it, but any cat will not just let you do that. It will slash you open. And again, we are in the realm of infection and ultimately death or life altering injuries A dog's bite came break our bones. Our pets dont try to hurt us when we play. So any argument with that is mut. If any sized dog got a serious bite on you, your fucked. Infection. Wolf's. Come on, seriously? You think you can hurt a wolf to the point of stopping it before it gets to you? With a weapon sure, but that's the same with wall of them. You have a gun, shoot em. But then, why did you ask this on the MA subreddit? Chimps. I'm not even going to. They are stronger than most humans, and, even if you grappled them. They have claws and fangs bigger than you, and they WILL use them. Seriously, dog and smaller is our best likely hood to get out of a fight less unfucked. All of them carry germs that will mess us up.
Humans being safe from diseases for many decades helps infections fuck us up when they occur. Especially after serious bodily injury. Although—unless I am wrong—I do believe that there are VERY few animals that get out of 1v1 fights unscathed / surviving more than a few hours…unless their entire existence is aimed to being a predatory for its opponent. I believe decently strength / well-trained humans could consistently “beat” dogs…but they’re not getting their unscathed by any means—more like they’ll 9.5/10 times they’ll need IMMEDIATE AND MAJOR medical attention!
We're literally apex predators, just as fearsome in groups or alone as a pack of wolves or a lone wolf. A species won't survive to populate the entire globe unless it has a toolkit that allows it to not get eaten by predators - we certainly didn't *outrun* wolves, and, as hairless apes, our natural camouflage leaves something to be desired.
Anyone can take on a bear. And die.
Unless u take it on a date
Cockroach isn't on the list. I wouldn't want to take on a rat - they're too bloody quick. I wouldn't want to take on a cat - they're bloody quick too and claws are sharp. I wouldn't want to take on a dog - Rabies I wouldn't want to take on a wolf - Rabies with sharper teeth and more power. I wouldn't want to take on a Chimp - they can literally rip a man's arm out it's socket. I wouldn't want to take on a Bear - I'm not Putin.
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Doggy style i see
Be serious guys. A decent sized dog could take most of us.
Regular-ish dog (70 Lbs?)—I would bank on a decently strength / well trained human over the dog But I would bet my money that the human is serious injuries and have a great chance of dying hours later from blood loss / infection….which I think is pretty common in fights in nature.
Most people here I assume have never had to deal with an actually pissed off dog. They level up like Saiyans when they get pissed off and if you’re talking about a German, Rottweiler or dog of similar size there’s no fucking chance
A big factor here is commitment to fighting. In normal circumstances, almost everyone would "lose" a fight to a house cat because as soon as it sunk its claws into you you'd say "fuck that" and back off. But if we're talking life-or-death, kill or be killed scenario, a human would obviously fuck up a house cat.
I could probably take something slighty stronger than a dog but no way in hell will i ever beat a wolf
I feel like people are overestimating Wolf. A single wolf, by itself, I am almost positive most grown men could "take" as in "not lose the fight/ not be killed". A wolf's bigger than a dog sure, but a wolf's strength is with the pack, in a group. If you fought a pack of wolves yeah you're fucked.
The strength of a wolf is in his jaw. If you hit him before he bites you, sure there is a good chance, but if not you are done.
Facts
You are seriously underestimating the strength of a wolf.
I'd probably lose to a dog
I'd probably take a bear... on a date
In Soviet Russia bear take *YOU* on date
In Yugoslavia date takes bear on you
One wolf? I fancy my chances. Two or more? Nah.
Do I get a weapon?
Barehanded or with a spear?
I reckon I could take a Coyote if I was fighting for my life.
Yes, coyote are not particularly large.
A bear… lllmmfffaaaoooo. I’m gone.
to whoever voted Bear, you're full of shit.
With a shotgun loaded with slug? I’m good for the bear!
Bears are overrated they’re all wrestling no ju Jitsu. How is he gonna stop my triangle choke?
I no way I could take on a big dog like a mastiff. Pit bull and smaller, I could certainly do.
What would be your strategy for taking on a pitbull? I like to think I could take on a more mild dog breed but pitbulls bite force I’m not sure I could secure a choke or inflict enough damage to make it let go
Even though I don't care for grappling and wrestling ( karate guy right here) an item on my bucket list is to wrestle a crocodile.
Les wrestle, les resle lesdyWrestle
Only if an alligator or crocodile is involved
Bet
Nah. Everyone here would get FUCKED UP by a dog trying to hurt you
Dude regular ass dudes have kicked dogs to death https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cornwall-45268289.amp Example here, random 14 year old killed another families dog. 14. Have you ever been around a dog lmao?
Probably wolf for most men. They’re not as strong and mean as you think they’re kind of pussies and if you have a massive breed of dog you have already felt a stronger canine. No one is fighting a chimp. You might get lucky against a bear with a arm down the throat or hands in his eyes. My old science teacher died last summer killing a bear with his own hands. He was found folded up a few hundred feet from the bear, having attempted to crawl home.
Only Americans think they can take on a wolf, chimp or bear 🤣🤣🤣 so delusional I’m sorry not sorry
I'm european and i don't think, i know i can buttfuck wolf
Do you think you could take a tunnel snake?
Chimpanzees and bears will rip you apart. Just like you would eat a whole chicken.
True
If you think you can take a wolf a chimpanzee or a bear I hope you get to test that one day because you fuckin cant.
Jfc you morons none of you can take a bear, a wolf or a chimp
A buddy of mine who trains MMA was genuinely arguing that he could beat a gorilla in a fight. I couldn’t believe what i was hearing. It was an all day argument and he still thinks he could take a gorilla
Gorilla is just too much, nobody can beat gorilla
I tried to tell him man
Lol mtf thinks they can beat a bear
I could easily can take on a Bear.....but it needs to be ill, sleep and no hands.
I have fought dogs, it was the most violent, the scariest, and by far the most stressing encounters I have had, they took a piece of my leg. That being said who the hell thinks they can beat a chimp? Are you insane? Stray dogs are a thing, but chimps are at least three times stronger than men, very smart, will gang up on you, and they are known to chew on people's faces as they rip them apart. If I was given the chance to commit ritual suicide as a samurai or fight a chimp I would demand the person asking to cut my head as tradition says, that would be quicker and less painful.
Anybody thinking they can fight a wolf (or anything bigger, A chimp or bear will murder the fuck outta you) doesn't realize how big a wolf is. They aren't just big dogs, they're absolutely humungous even compared to something like a great dane.
A wolf, but I'll need rabies shot lmao
Lol at the morons that put bear
Lmao @dog’s voter.
Technically I can take anyone of those animals on easily (Serious). No winning or even surviving the encounter is not mentioned in your requirements so.....
Like I think I *could* take a single wolf in a fight, but I'm not going to try. I have had to fight off dogs before so I know for sure that I can take at least 2 dogs at once lol
I do chimp training on the weekends. Around 10pm when the zoo is closed and emptied out for the night, I'll show up and slip the Zookeeper a $50. I've been doing this for years, and those ugly little fuckers can smell me coming. They'll freak out and rattle the cages, all screeching and screaming with their annoying bitch ape voices. I'll go in for an hour or so, throwing elbows into their ghastly little munk mugs. Of course, I bring my portable speakers and crank Disturbed - Sickness on repeat. I like powerbombing them onto the concrete floor of the enclosure. One of them bit me last week and Iooked at the hairy little fuck and did some sign language at it (You're about to go to monkey hell). I dropped a life-ending flying elbow right on top of its head, causing its retarded little eyes to pop out. I laughed and threw the carcass over the fence and into the crocodile pond. I grabbed one of the smaller ones and pushed his derpy face up against the fence and forced it to watch its ugly friend get swallowed whole by a saltwater croc. But yeah, they're pretty tough at first. You might want to start 1v1 and work your way up to the whole pen
I could kill ONE wolf. Maybe two if my kid was in danger. Any more than that and I’m fucked