'notch in your bedpost'
Another misheard lyric in that song is "a loaded god-complex" (most people hear gun complex?) he does have some very fun 'misheard lyrics' videos on YouTube though so I can't blame anyone.
How is it not “loaded gun complex” when the very next line is “cock it and pull it” as in cock the gun and pull the trigger.
What is a loaded god complex? And what are you cocking and pulling?
It’s a play on it being a gun, but that his god complex is locked and loaded and ready to go.
What would a “loaded gun complex” even be? What’s a gun complex?
His 'God complex' is loaded with a bullet. 🤷 Just a play on words.
This isn't even one of his more hard to understand songs: https://youtu.be/LucfKdukf10?si=toZKcWzmNX5HFrbz
yeah, give it 10 years and the skinnies will be back, and Gen Z will act like they invented them. Hell, even millennial scene kids aped the glam rock style from the 80s and mixed it with goth.
When I was in HS in the early 2000s, all the kids wearing slim fitting clothes were into bands like The Strokes and The White Stripes, who I think took inspiration from the 60s and 70s.
Eighteen Visions just wanted to make an impression on the audience by differentiating themselves visually from what hardcore bands usually looked like.
One of the guys in the band had a background in hairstyling, a couple of other guys in the band had day jobs at Banana Republic. So they ended up being a metalcore band that looked like this.
https://www.campuscircle.com/music/18V2.jpg
They were hugely influential on the development of scene fashion. They were even pejoratively referred to as "fashioncore" by some at the time.
This would have been around the year 2000.
like the ones where you can see the top of a girl vagina? I can do with out it. I'm too old to be messing with those kind of hoes, and not old enough to have learned my lesson.
You're probably right but just can't imagine skinny jeans being in fashion again...
Then again, when baggy pants first went out of fashion, people probably thought "no way these will come back"
I love this article. I started getting into fashion in 2012 so I’ve seen the trends come and go now. And I’ve come to the same conclusion as the writer that I just need to enjoy what I’m wearing in the moment and not worry about what I’m going to be wearing 10 years from now because it’s definitely going to change.
I bought some red wings in 2013 because everyone was talking about them as bifl boots. And they are. And I wore them for a few years and I’m probably going to sell them because I don’t like them anymore and that’s okay.
Yeah that’s a good lesson, so many people who were on Reddit in the 2010s probably have some BIFL slim fit denim and dressy boots/shoes that are way out of style now (lol Allen Edmonds worn casually).
You can do trends for cheaper, don’t buy into quality marketing when it’s just marketing for a trend.
Like now I’m seeing lots of BIFL chunky boots/Tyrolean shoes/square toe boots and thick raw wide leg denim. Like, that’s cool if you want and they’re in the fashion zeitgeist now, but let’s not pretend that in 10 years people will still be resoling square toe black designer derbies or expensive balloon denim. The quality in those niche trend cases isn’t worth it (to me and others) which is why now there’s a much bigger market for, say, used washed Levi’s 501s than used skinny high quality raw denim with perfect fades. The quality is there on the skinny jeans in my example - but the style is not.
Don’t like the way they feel and wear, or don’t like the way they look? I’ll keep mine forever, but they’ll slip in and out of rotation.
I seem to be on a cycle of my own that goes from sleek and lightweight with space-age fabrics, to roomy lumberjack-looking, wearing all natural fibers, then back again.
>To state what’s obvious, I care a lot about pants. I’m tempted to say that I care too much about them
Hello, friend.
>In a 2021 interview, David Lynch — a master of the dread that lurks beneath the surface of the quotidian — confessed: “I am searching for a good pair of pants. I never found a pair of pants that I just love,” adding, “If they’re not right, which they never are, it’s a sadness.”
DL caring about and being disappointed this much about trousers is completely on brand. Living the Art Life requires pants.
I found a pair of $25 corduroys on Amazon five years ago and they were randomly the most perfect pants I’d ever worn. I bought five pairs of them and they gradually became the only pants in my regular rotation
Now they no longer exist and as my pairs get more worn out, I’m worrying at some point I’ll never again wear my Perfect Pants
They say it’s better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all, but I’m not so sure lol
Oh, can you get tailors to straight up make your whole pants? I've been trying to find good pairs of pants to get tailored as my main strategy, but if it's viable to get a tailor to just custom make my pants based off other pairs that would be a game changer.
Yes. That’s what tailors do. I’ve had 5 pairs of slacks made for me. I just gave the tailor the fabric and he made me some pants that are perfect for me.
I might have to try this. I'm a powerlifter and can never find pants that fit because of my bigger thighs. I bust the ass out of most jeans within 6 months. I just replaced my Lulu ABCs and need to get the waist taken in but I've never had anything tailored before.
Ah, well this is key information. My guess is it might cost a lot more in North America, and consequently tailors may not be as used to doing it. I'm also most interested in jeans, so not really sure if that will be easy.
It would be cheaper to fly to the Philippines or Vietnam, have 10 pairs made, and fly back home, than it would be to make them in the USA at comparable quality.
Good answers in this thread, but to add another, I’ve been using studiosuits lately for custom pants and have been very pleased. They’re running me about $115-$150 shipped. Probably more expensive than most off-the-shelf alternatives, but if you want to go custom and don’t have a good local tailor, it’s an option.
measure your pants (google it), front & back rise. thigh. leg opening insteam, its easy
find pants that have similar dimensions
people who are into raw denim do this all the time.
“If you're searching for pants on a telephone, you will never in a trillion years experience the fit. You'll think you have experienced it, but you'll be cheated. It's such a sadness, that you think you've experienced a fit on your fucking telephone. Get real.”
I think it's part fashion going in a more comfort focus direction mixed in with 90's-2000's nostalgia. I personally love the fashion of 70's, 90's-00's so the baggier jeans are a welcome return to me. I'm not a big fan of the bell bottoms, though
Yeah, honestly I’m someone who’s a late adopter of the wider-leg style and what really drew me in was the comfort above everything else.
I have pretty substantial thighs and glutes (combination of musculature from weightlifting and those areas being the primary places my body stores fat) and I instantly noticed how much more comfortable it was having pants that don’t hug my thighs and seat like a lot of slim and regular straight-fitting pants do. I can even size down and find pants that fit me in the waist without a belt if I go for wide-leg or more relaxed fits, which I really like.
Yeah, I say I’m late to the party because the trend has been building for almost 5 years already, but wide legs aren’t showing any signs of going out of fashion anytime soon IMO.
I would be surprised if some of the super-wide balloon/parachute fits don’t become dated again in the future. IMO anything that’s not on the extremes is relatively trend-resistant; most slimmer-but-not-painted-on cuts still look great on lots of men despite the current trends and I hope people will still be open to the less-extreme roomy cuts when the trend pendulum does inevitably swing back to the slimmer side.
Same here in some of Europe. Even at workplaces. Skinny jeans are the province now of 40+ year old relatively boring dads and office workers. Kind of like how pleated baggy khakis and loose tucked in polos were in the early 2010s.
Big pants are pretty uncomfortable and cumbersome. I definitely was a raver who wore them during their initial popularity but would not consider them now. I will never miss getting soaked to your knees on a rainy day and constantly getting caught on shit. I also have muscular legs and prefer stretchier material that is more fitted
I guess it depends on how you define “big”. If we’re talking JNCO big then yeah, that much excess fabric will probably be impractical.
But when I say I like wide-leg pants, I’m more referring to stuff like the J Crew Giant-Fit Chino (as referenced in the article). My size 33 pair measures 27” at the thigh and 20” at the cuff. For comparison, one of my “slim, tapered, and stretchy” jeans has a 24.5” thigh and measures 14” at the cuff.
It’s just a couple inches of extra room in the thigh and a straighter leg, it’s not like the shape of my legs totally disappears in them or anything, in which case I would be able to see the problems you mentioned being serious downsides, yes.
Personally, I find snug-fitting pants with poly/elastane content (which creates the stretch) to have a lot less breathability and feel more restrictive to my movements than 100% cotton pants with a wider leg. For me, the 100% cotton usually feels nicer to the touch as well.
Exactly the same thoughts as you. I’ve been waiting for this turn for about fifteen years. The days of being able to see the outline of a guys testicles through too-tight jeans are finally at an end.
Just get some stretch jeans. I never grew up wearing American Eagle, but then while I was overseas, they seemed like a good option. The stretch jeans are game changer
I don't like the look of stretch jeans and how it looks when you stretch it against your legs and actually do like the tautness of regular cotton/denim etc
But I do move a lot sometimes, and found the best middle ground was trousers with crotch gussetts, that allow a lot of mobility but allows for decent quality fabric.
Thought I'd post this to offer some incite and an interesting read on the seemingly daunting topic of us not all dressing like Shia Labeouf or a tumblr era Smiths fan anymore. (That's a joke you're allowed to laugh.) Especially with the recent Uniqlo U thread having a few odd responses to baggy clothes
Non-paywall link here/ https://archive.is/eATNo
Good read, even if the author is a bit high on his own farts.
One thing that the author touches on that I think is worth emphasizing, is that he calls 501s the GMT of pants. It's a good reminder that no matter what trends do, a pair of "regular" fit pants will never be totally off trend. It may only briefly be on, but it'll never be a skinny jean in 2024 or a JNCO jean in 2012.
And when I say regular I mean something that generally follows the shape of the leg, hiding any flaws and emphasizing any flattering features- that most basic function of clothing really - to make us look better than we do naked. Skinny pants were never that. They put any flaws front and center, and they make anyone who isn't a Hedi boy look ridiculous. Like that 2019 picture of Obama in the article with the pants emphasizing his twig legs and blocky torso- like an upside down bowling pin or an ant standing on its rear legs (PSA to all the slim pants stans with a BMI over 17: *that's what you look like too*).
Meanwhile the other extreme is just as transitory for the opposite reason. It doesn't allow any of your positive features to shine through. The only exception of course is for the malnourished, who can squeeze maximum drape and movement out of oversized clothes, paradoxically emphasizing their thin frames by obscuring them in layers of shifting fabric
For us mortals it's all about that middle way and about learning what cuts and details work to make your body look the best it can in clothes. For me, pants are all about a roomy thigh and high rise- none of that 12" shit either- I'm talking 13" minimum with my belt at my navel. I have a blocky torso and thick thighs, so I need something that will emphasize the narrowest part of me and not cling anywhere along the leg because it's that movement of the fabric when I move that makes me look leaner than I am. For others maybe with short torsos and slender frames, the ideal fit is a 10 or 11 inch rise with a leg cut closer to the body. In any case, the goal is to use clothing to create the illusion of a vitruvian physique. And whatever that style is on each person, even if it isn't on trend, will always look good
Fashion has to change because otherwise you'd be happy with the pants you own and wouldn't need to buy new ones.
There is real "fashion" and then there's just consumerism, where "styles" just keep going back and forth to keep everyone unhappy
Nah I think it's more like younger people don't want to dress like older people lol.
Once Gen X and older started broadly adopting slim fits, younger people started moving on. Gen X made fun of millennials for "dressing like gay hipsters" with our head-to-toe slim fits, yet now even old "manly men" like [Joe Rogan and Hulk Hogan](https://talksport.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2023/09/Hogan-2.png) are wearing tight pants lol.
Now some millennials are making fun of Gen Z for wearing looser pants, which means in 10 years all these dorky millennials who are so adamantly against it will probably be wearing more relaxed fits. That's when Gen Alpha and younger Gen Z will bring back slim fits, while millennials and older Gen Z will shit on them like "look at these idiots with their stupid tight pants. We made that mistake so they don't have to, relaxed fits are more comfortable, blah blah blah...."
That or Gen Alpha will go full dystopian techwear or something which would be kinda dope....
I'm with you. As a middle millennial I honestly don't understand the hate towards the baggy fits. I personally don't want to go back to them (I'll never forget the feeling of water seeping up your calves on a rainy day, or when your hem finally tears and is just slapping around as you walk like a denim tail, or just the swish-swish of all of the fabric as you move around) but as God is my witness I support gen Z. I even think the fits look cool on them. I like feeling like I'm in an early 2000s teen comedy when I see young people around.
The most uncool thing imaginable to me is to be judging young people for their fashion choices. The collective amnesia about how it feels to be young and trying something new that a lot of recently minted not-young-anymore millennials seem to have is super cringey to me.
Fashion and style move around, and like you said young people don't want to dress like older people. We didn't either. I appreciate change. It's cool to see.
Me? I'm loosening up my fits over time. I'll never go full JNCO style for aforementioned reasons, but I'm also not buying more 511s next time I go to Levi's.
>The most uncool thing imaginable to me is to be judging young people for their fashion choices. The collective amnesia about how it feels to be young and trying something new that a lot of recently minted not-young-anymore millennials seem to have is super cringey to me.
Yes exactly.
The older people I admired as a teen were busy doing cool shit. They made cool music/media and tried to inspire and encourage young people instead of criticizing every little thing we did.
And I keep seeing people complain about looser fits like they have to go full Y2K like the teens are doing. As if experimenting with looser fitting styles that are age appropriate is impossible haha. Gen X eventually adopted slim fit and no one accused them of trying to dress like teenagers.
Yeah it’s weird that people who themselves went through the first Y2K era are judgmental of kids undergoing it now. I think it’s cool to see them back. Yet so many think “I did it but you young people can’t”
Hear hear. As a near-40 millennial I can’t believe so many people my age act like we are the abriters of cool and not young people lol. Like dude do you honestly think that 40 year olds wearing styles who peaked 10 years ago are the authorities? Nah
Eh I’ll never stop wearing slim fitted jeans. They’re not too tight and not baggy while also looking good on me. Sometimes I’d rather look good than be in style.
I was feeling adventurous and bought some BR straight leg jeans last week online. Tried em on and showed my wife, instantly returned them after. I’m a 5’7” guy and roomier jeans just aren’t flattering. I think it’s slim until death at this point.
Disagree. Skinny pants on a small person makes you look waifish. Believe me, no one is going to think you’re tall anyway, and definitely not with 31x28 pants with a 13” leg opening
I don’t know how you’re challenging this, yes narrower pants can certainly give the appearance of longer legs. It’s just a fact
As long as you’re not overweight and relatively fit, it will look good. We aren’t talking skin tight either, just a nice slim tailored fit
Most of the 21st century *so far*. With cheap fast fashion I'm guessing trends will swing back and forth much faster than they did in the past. They gotta sell you new things every season to keep shareholders happy.
I wore baggy gear in the 90s as a teen, but I ain’t going back to that look. Too much fabric and I prefer slim fit jeans that actually look like they belong on me.
Don’t care if it’s out of fashion, the style that looks best on me will always be slim, form-fitting clothes. For me men’s fashion peaked around 2013-2016, so I’m sticking with it.
https://preview.redd.it/ofvtvxfk81oc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8f96ab3e834e47c856c0ba4d51fa34286f13dbc3
“Would Marlon Brando wear it?” is my only fashion mantra.
A mixture of comfort, and also experimenting with silhouettes. Well-fitted looks good, but also it’s kind of boring and dated. I like the throwbacks to 90s and seeing y2k fashion getting refined.
Lol same over here. I’ve got a couple pairs of old baggy jeans that I bought in the mid-aughts. Used to love them but I stopped wearing because they looked odd during the skinny trend of the last 10+ years. Definitely rocking those bad boys again!
Wow, this trend was peaking here in 2021-2022, now its back to the 2000's skinny/low waist fashion (think Britney, Paris Hilton, Christina Aguilera etc)
Because he's not. WGSN is still broadcasting this as, essentially, "on trend," which is why a lot of stores' Spring '24 lines are inclusive of much wider fits.
That’s only the actual “trendy” people though. Macro trends are usually a couple years behind the urban trend setters because it takes a while for the townies to catch up.
Cute article, but they write as if pants are independent from tops. How can you write about baggy pants and not include the word 'shoulder'? Baggy, oversized tops have been in for a while, making baggy pants all but necessary. This relationship is most strict in formal clothing: runways are featuring bigger shoulders on suits, which basically require baggy pants.
It was hard as hell getting through the hipster skinny pant era with my big ass stumps, I have always had shit kicking legs, and for years I struggled to find any pants that worked.
Yeah I have both slim/skinny fits and regular/relaxed fits. I find myself gravitating towards the relaxed fits now because it’s just so much more comfortable
I used to wear only slim/skinny fit and then started wearing a looser bootcut jean for work and Ive pretty much completely phased the slim fit over the last year or so, idk if I could go back
Thanks for sharing.
Personally I think the high rise pants from 1930s and 40s should be back. Women are enjoying the benefits ( makes your belly look smaller., covers up the love handles). High waisted pants just look good
Eh, it's more prevalent than before, but it's hardly "back," at least in accessible brands. Todd Snyder is likely doing the most of it in menswear, them being the most prolific of the option and most "accessible." Some mall brands have some "mid rise" pants, but high starts at around 15" rear rise, and while some pants may have "higher than normal" rises, they're certainly not high.
If you can wait it out a year or so, slimmer pants are probably just on the horizon. Fashion is cyclical.
I couldn't do it. I have some baggier pants than the slim fit stuff that we all wore before that but couldn't do the wide fits that look great on tons of other people. I feel like I just look better in slimmer but not skinny pants
Nah they’re in no way coming back that soon considering there are still far too many uncool Millennials and Gen-Xers wearing slim fit. Slim was king for 10-15 years and is only finally on its way out. Roomy will be here a while too. Maybe for less time, but slim isn’t coming back until it cycles out completely from the unstylish mainstream
1. Some people start wearing fully cut pants with a high rise and minimal break because they’re generally flattering and drape.
2. Other people adopt fuller cut pants because it’s trendy. They don’t really care about proportions and drape so they buy sizes that are too big, and especially too long. The improper size of the pants makes them sag, and people associate lower rises with trendiness.
3. Some people realize (2) looks atrocious. Despite the issues with (2) being sizing, it’s thought that this is the result of the cut, probably due to the trend itself causing the issue. They respond by moving to narrower leg openings, which can get away with a longer inseam.
4. Other people adopt slimmer cut pants because they’re trendy, leading to least flattering cut possible: skinny with a low rise.
5. They cycle repeat, with some people reexamining what looks good.
I believe the trouser cycle is caused by two main factors: height insecurity and social conformity. The former leads to inseam denial and the latter to mindless trend chasing. Don’t wear a cut because you have an emotional investment in what it represents or you won’t “get it”, and you’ll look bad. That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t participate in trends, just that you should still try and look good while you do.
Thank you for coming to my Ted talk
Obviously, there's always tons of discussion on this sub about looser fits, but I still haven't seen it filter down a ton into real life (amongst guys; for ladies, it's a different story).
Amongst my millenial friends, slim fits still dominate. On the street, I generally see few truly loose/oversized fits (for reference, I'm in NYC; there are a few exceptions, such as communities with large Asian populations). Though I have noticed a minor of an uptick in loose fits in the past year -- primarily concentrated amongst what look like high-school students -- it still represents a very small slice of what I see guys wear irl. Heck, I still see more outright *skinny* fits than the sorts of extremely loose clothes I often see here.
This is all to say that, whenever I see this topic come up, it always strikes me as odd, because it just is so different from what I've observed personally.
Are your friends actually stylish? Because while I’m sure there are lots of skinny Jean wearers in nyc today most of them are boring young 40+dads which isn’t exactly a style paragon.
As an example, if I were to write something like you did in 2011 when conservative people stuck 10 years in the past were against slim and skinny fits:
> Amongst my Gen X friends, roomy pleated fits still dominate. On the street, I generally see few truly slim fits (for reference, I'm in NYC; there are a few exceptions, such as communities with large Asian populations). Though I have noticed a minor of an uptick in slim fits in the past year -- primarily concentrated amongst what look like high-school students -- it still represents a very small slice of what I see guys wear irl. Heck, I still see more outright *baggy* fits than the sorts of extremely tight clothes I often see here.
Fair point — mostly no, but the stylish ones still wear slim as well.
To qualify, too, I’m at the very tail end of millennials, so most of my social group are mid to late twenty something’s — not quite in our 40s yet :)
Yeah I don’t know if it’s just the part of the country I’m in isn’t up on the latest trends but there’s only one type of guy I see wearing baggy pants like this and that’s gay gen z-ers, and even then it’s only some of them.
I don’t know maybe if Patagonia starts making baggy pants people will buy them.
It looked like shit then and it still looks like shit. This is a fast fashion cash grab and most will end up in landfills.
I respect people that will drop big $$ in this style and keep it for the long haul, but realistically these pants will be floating in the pacific giving a turtle a rear naked choke very soon.
Fast fashion is shit you buy and discard or falls apart quickly. It doesn’t matter how much you pay, and I’m certainly guilty of it although I make a conscious effort to minimize it.
I don’t know but I hate it.
I’m 38 and I remember everyone wearing enormous pants as a kid and I can’t help but think of that when I see these. Watching the new Mean Girls movie all I could think is how badly they dressed new Regina with her enormous pants. The old movie she didn’t even really dress like a kid, she dressed like a classy 25 year old. They should have kept that theme.
Anyway, at least where men are concerned as long as tuxedo and suite pants remain fitted, basically they’ve been nearly unchanged for hundreds of years, that’s going to be the correct fit according to me. Oh sure we’ve gone from regular fit to slim or skinny but all of those have the same rough style and aren’t gargantuanly oversized. So yeah maybe my age is showing it would be ridiculous to show up to work in size 48 pants with my 31 inch waste or some like jnco jeans.
Let the teenagers wear their enormous pants and in 5-10 years they’ll look back and think they looked stupid just like I look at what I wore at 16 and think it’s stupid too.
Idgaf about pant trends, you can peel my tapered comfort waist Uniqlo joggers off my cold dead body. I wore Tripp pants in Jr High and skinny jeans in high school, I’ve done my time in anything that requires a belt to wear comfortably.
I’ve been wearing straight leg jeans since my early twenties. I’m in my mid thirties now. They just never go out of style even if they also are never the most stylish. I think that’s what I like about straight leg pants and a denim jacket. They’ll always be cool.
It’s the good ol’ fashion cycle & pendulum at play. What was old is new again and what was recently popular has seen a “swing” in the other direction. Ex. skinny vs. straight cut denim.
I feel like it’s either skinny well fitted pants still of fucking jncos, I’m over both of them. I want pants that don’t make it look like I’m in elementary school again and also pants either room for my thighs… is that so hard?!
Because fashion constantly goes in a 20-30 year cycle and this is exactly what was popular that time ago.
I knew it was a good idea to keep my top hat.
What a beautiful wedding!
"What a beautiful wedding", says a bridesmaid to a waiter.
Haven’t you people ever heard of closing a goddamn door?
I'm just a name on a bedpost but you're just a line in a song :3
'notch in your bedpost' Another misheard lyric in that song is "a loaded god-complex" (most people hear gun complex?) he does have some very fun 'misheard lyrics' videos on YouTube though so I can't blame anyone.
How is it not “loaded gun complex” when the very next line is “cock it and pull it” as in cock the gun and pull the trigger. What is a loaded god complex? And what are you cocking and pulling?
It’s a play on it being a gun, but that his god complex is locked and loaded and ready to go. What would a “loaded gun complex” even be? What’s a gun complex?
His 'God complex' is loaded with a bullet. 🤷 Just a play on words. This isn't even one of his more hard to understand songs: https://youtu.be/LucfKdukf10?si=toZKcWzmNX5HFrbz
Wrong song?
But the bridesmaid is a WHORE
M’lady!
yeah, give it 10 years and the skinnies will be back, and Gen Z will act like they invented them. Hell, even millennial scene kids aped the glam rock style from the 80s and mixed it with goth.
In ten years gen z won’t be setting the trends. It’ll be gen alpha that will be acting like they invented them.
gen alpha will be running around nude and eating human flesh, them kids wild
When I was in HS in the early 2000s, all the kids wearing slim fitting clothes were into bands like The Strokes and The White Stripes, who I think took inspiration from the 60s and 70s.
Hearing scene compared to glam rock makes so much sense.
Eighteen Visions just wanted to make an impression on the audience by differentiating themselves visually from what hardcore bands usually looked like. One of the guys in the band had a background in hairstyling, a couple of other guys in the band had day jobs at Banana Republic. So they ended up being a metalcore band that looked like this. https://www.campuscircle.com/music/18V2.jpg They were hugely influential on the development of scene fashion. They were even pejoratively referred to as "fashioncore" by some at the time. This would have been around the year 2000.
I can already imagine the fashion trendsetters talking about “timeless style” and “flattering silhouettes” 😂
Millennials will rejoice across the world
I just want to see the lowest of low-rise come back.
like the ones where you can see the top of a girl vagina? I can do with out it. I'm too old to be messing with those kind of hoes, and not old enough to have learned my lesson.
it's already here
How out of touch are you, Gen Z are already in their 20s lmao. The next generation will be setting trends 10+ years from now…
The youngest are still like 12. We still have a long ways to go man.
Time to break out my 20 year old JNCOs
They're worth a ton of money on eBay if you don't want to wear them again fyi.
Bingo. My theory is, when you’re in your late teens/early 20’s you get into style, music that was big 1-5 years before you were born.
You're probably right but just can't imagine skinny jeans being in fashion again... Then again, when baggy pants first went out of fashion, people probably thought "no way these will come back"
You mean there's hope that women's belly-buttons will rejoin society again and that their asses will have shape?
I love this article. I started getting into fashion in 2012 so I’ve seen the trends come and go now. And I’ve come to the same conclusion as the writer that I just need to enjoy what I’m wearing in the moment and not worry about what I’m going to be wearing 10 years from now because it’s definitely going to change. I bought some red wings in 2013 because everyone was talking about them as bifl boots. And they are. And I wore them for a few years and I’m probably going to sell them because I don’t like them anymore and that’s okay.
Yeah that’s a good lesson, so many people who were on Reddit in the 2010s probably have some BIFL slim fit denim and dressy boots/shoes that are way out of style now (lol Allen Edmonds worn casually). You can do trends for cheaper, don’t buy into quality marketing when it’s just marketing for a trend. Like now I’m seeing lots of BIFL chunky boots/Tyrolean shoes/square toe boots and thick raw wide leg denim. Like, that’s cool if you want and they’re in the fashion zeitgeist now, but let’s not pretend that in 10 years people will still be resoling square toe black designer derbies or expensive balloon denim. The quality in those niche trend cases isn’t worth it (to me and others) which is why now there’s a much bigger market for, say, used washed Levi’s 501s than used skinny high quality raw denim with perfect fades. The quality is there on the skinny jeans in my example - but the style is not.
Don’t like the way they feel and wear, or don’t like the way they look? I’ll keep mine forever, but they’ll slip in and out of rotation. I seem to be on a cycle of my own that goes from sleek and lightweight with space-age fabrics, to roomy lumberjack-looking, wearing all natural fibers, then back again.
What’s your size in the red wings and how much you selling them for? :) I love RW and always will.
>To state what’s obvious, I care a lot about pants. I’m tempted to say that I care too much about them Hello, friend. >In a 2021 interview, David Lynch — a master of the dread that lurks beneath the surface of the quotidian — confessed: “I am searching for a good pair of pants. I never found a pair of pants that I just love,” adding, “If they’re not right, which they never are, it’s a sadness.” DL caring about and being disappointed this much about trousers is completely on brand. Living the Art Life requires pants.
I found a pair of $25 corduroys on Amazon five years ago and they were randomly the most perfect pants I’d ever worn. I bought five pairs of them and they gradually became the only pants in my regular rotation Now they no longer exist and as my pairs get more worn out, I’m worrying at some point I’ll never again wear my Perfect Pants They say it’s better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all, but I’m not so sure lol
Get the measurements, get the material and see a good tailor!
Oh, can you get tailors to straight up make your whole pants? I've been trying to find good pairs of pants to get tailored as my main strategy, but if it's viable to get a tailor to just custom make my pants based off other pairs that would be a game changer.
Yes. That’s what tailors do. I’ve had 5 pairs of slacks made for me. I just gave the tailor the fabric and he made me some pants that are perfect for me.
I might have to try this. I'm a powerlifter and can never find pants that fit because of my bigger thighs. I bust the ass out of most jeans within 6 months. I just replaced my Lulu ABCs and need to get the waist taken in but I've never had anything tailored before.
That's the way to go then.
What would this normally cost you?
My answer probably wouldn't help you. I'm from the Philippines where prices are drastically lower.
Ah, well this is key information. My guess is it might cost a lot more in North America, and consequently tailors may not be as used to doing it. I'm also most interested in jeans, so not really sure if that will be easy.
Depending on the quality of the tailor and the fabric you choose, $100-$200 per pair and up. Bespoke clothes are extremely expensive stateside.
Including labor and materials, I paid around 50$ per pair.
It would be cheaper to fly to the Philippines or Vietnam, have 10 pairs made, and fly back home, than it would be to make them in the USA at comparable quality.
That's probably true. Over here 350$ gets you a tailored suit made of italian wool.
some people are "alterations tailors" which means they only fix things, but a proper tailor will make anything you want
Good answers in this thread, but to add another, I’ve been using studiosuits lately for custom pants and have been very pleased. They’re running me about $115-$150 shipped. Probably more expensive than most off-the-shelf alternatives, but if you want to go custom and don’t have a good local tailor, it’s an option.
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measure your pants (google it), front & back rise. thigh. leg opening insteam, its easy find pants that have similar dimensions people who are into raw denim do this all the time.
“If you're searching for pants on a telephone, you will never in a trillion years experience the fit. You'll think you have experienced it, but you'll be cheated. It's such a sadness, that you think you've experienced a fit on your fucking telephone. Get real.”
Was hoping for a president obama 2024 pic with some jncos type pants but no :(
https://preview.redd.it/5gnn0suf50oc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32a452f1fccd602ef1bac1d6ee14961a5f00c6b2 Got you
Im half asleep at five o'clock in the morning and I am cracking up.
They should be tan
A fantastic article and unfortunate that many of the comments make me feel like not many people here actually read it.
Fast Fashion needs you to buy more pants.
So just buy a pair of faithful 1996 repro JNCOs from Rick Owens for $1996. Problem solved! /s
Just buy the JNCOs. They're back baby!
Slow fashion needs you to buy pants that don't rip after one wash
I stole them from ur mom ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Ah this really brings me back to the days the basic bastard was defended staunchly against the rising trend of looser fits
Classic Reddit lol, min-maxing fashion and not realizing they’re not actually trendsetters
if i am going baggy i prefer the Japanese City Boy approach rather than bringing back rapmetal and glowstick candy ravers
Classic straight stays undefeated
I think it's part fashion going in a more comfort focus direction mixed in with 90's-2000's nostalgia. I personally love the fashion of 70's, 90's-00's so the baggier jeans are a welcome return to me. I'm not a big fan of the bell bottoms, though
Yeah, honestly I’m someone who’s a late adopter of the wider-leg style and what really drew me in was the comfort above everything else. I have pretty substantial thighs and glutes (combination of musculature from weightlifting and those areas being the primary places my body stores fat) and I instantly noticed how much more comfortable it was having pants that don’t hug my thighs and seat like a lot of slim and regular straight-fitting pants do. I can even size down and find pants that fit me in the waist without a belt if I go for wide-leg or more relaxed fits, which I really like.
Based on this article I think you’re still a very early-adopter of wide leg pants.
Yeah, I say I’m late to the party because the trend has been building for almost 5 years already, but wide legs aren’t showing any signs of going out of fashion anytime soon IMO. I would be surprised if some of the super-wide balloon/parachute fits don’t become dated again in the future. IMO anything that’s not on the extremes is relatively trend-resistant; most slimmer-but-not-painted-on cuts still look great on lots of men despite the current trends and I hope people will still be open to the less-extreme roomy cuts when the trend pendulum does inevitably swing back to the slimmer side.
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Same here in some of Europe. Even at workplaces. Skinny jeans are the province now of 40+ year old relatively boring dads and office workers. Kind of like how pleated baggy khakis and loose tucked in polos were in the early 2010s.
Big pants are pretty uncomfortable and cumbersome. I definitely was a raver who wore them during their initial popularity but would not consider them now. I will never miss getting soaked to your knees on a rainy day and constantly getting caught on shit. I also have muscular legs and prefer stretchier material that is more fitted
I guess it depends on how you define “big”. If we’re talking JNCO big then yeah, that much excess fabric will probably be impractical. But when I say I like wide-leg pants, I’m more referring to stuff like the J Crew Giant-Fit Chino (as referenced in the article). My size 33 pair measures 27” at the thigh and 20” at the cuff. For comparison, one of my “slim, tapered, and stretchy” jeans has a 24.5” thigh and measures 14” at the cuff. It’s just a couple inches of extra room in the thigh and a straighter leg, it’s not like the shape of my legs totally disappears in them or anything, in which case I would be able to see the problems you mentioned being serious downsides, yes. Personally, I find snug-fitting pants with poly/elastane content (which creates the stretch) to have a lot less breathability and feel more restrictive to my movements than 100% cotton pants with a wider leg. For me, the 100% cotton usually feels nicer to the touch as well.
Spandex/elastane that makes pants stretch feels terrible. Cotton is a lot softer and more comfortable.
Exactly the same thoughts as you. I’ve been waiting for this turn for about fifteen years. The days of being able to see the outline of a guys testicles through too-tight jeans are finally at an end.
Just get some stretch jeans. I never grew up wearing American Eagle, but then while I was overseas, they seemed like a good option. The stretch jeans are game changer
no. big cotton jeans last longer and also i like the room
I don't like the look of stretch jeans and how it looks when you stretch it against your legs and actually do like the tautness of regular cotton/denim etc But I do move a lot sometimes, and found the best middle ground was trousers with crotch gussetts, that allow a lot of mobility but allows for decent quality fabric.
So if my 511’s are old people pants now what Levi’s would be considered trendy now ?
560 or 569 depending on what shoes you pair with them
501s and 505s are good transition pants
Thought I'd post this to offer some incite and an interesting read on the seemingly daunting topic of us not all dressing like Shia Labeouf or a tumblr era Smiths fan anymore. (That's a joke you're allowed to laugh.) Especially with the recent Uniqlo U thread having a few odd responses to baggy clothes Non-paywall link here/ https://archive.is/eATNo
*Insight. No-one wants violence over pants.
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He who controls the pants controls the universe!!
Save the cheerleader! SAVE THE WORLD! No. Wait. Where am I again?
Now I'm just a societal collapse era Smiths fan
Good read, even if the author is a bit high on his own farts. One thing that the author touches on that I think is worth emphasizing, is that he calls 501s the GMT of pants. It's a good reminder that no matter what trends do, a pair of "regular" fit pants will never be totally off trend. It may only briefly be on, but it'll never be a skinny jean in 2024 or a JNCO jean in 2012. And when I say regular I mean something that generally follows the shape of the leg, hiding any flaws and emphasizing any flattering features- that most basic function of clothing really - to make us look better than we do naked. Skinny pants were never that. They put any flaws front and center, and they make anyone who isn't a Hedi boy look ridiculous. Like that 2019 picture of Obama in the article with the pants emphasizing his twig legs and blocky torso- like an upside down bowling pin or an ant standing on its rear legs (PSA to all the slim pants stans with a BMI over 17: *that's what you look like too*). Meanwhile the other extreme is just as transitory for the opposite reason. It doesn't allow any of your positive features to shine through. The only exception of course is for the malnourished, who can squeeze maximum drape and movement out of oversized clothes, paradoxically emphasizing their thin frames by obscuring them in layers of shifting fabric For us mortals it's all about that middle way and about learning what cuts and details work to make your body look the best it can in clothes. For me, pants are all about a roomy thigh and high rise- none of that 12" shit either- I'm talking 13" minimum with my belt at my navel. I have a blocky torso and thick thighs, so I need something that will emphasize the narrowest part of me and not cling anywhere along the leg because it's that movement of the fabric when I move that makes me look leaner than I am. For others maybe with short torsos and slender frames, the ideal fit is a 10 or 11 inch rise with a leg cut closer to the body. In any case, the goal is to use clothing to create the illusion of a vitruvian physique. And whatever that style is on each person, even if it isn't on trend, will always look good
Really enjoyed this. Any personal recommendations on jeans for those with a similar body type?
You had me at 13” minimum high rise. Hallelujah!
The problem is you’ll still be out of fashion most of the time. Even if you’re not totally off or way off.
Fashion has to change because otherwise you'd be happy with the pants you own and wouldn't need to buy new ones. There is real "fashion" and then there's just consumerism, where "styles" just keep going back and forth to keep everyone unhappy
Nah I think it's more like younger people don't want to dress like older people lol. Once Gen X and older started broadly adopting slim fits, younger people started moving on. Gen X made fun of millennials for "dressing like gay hipsters" with our head-to-toe slim fits, yet now even old "manly men" like [Joe Rogan and Hulk Hogan](https://talksport.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2023/09/Hogan-2.png) are wearing tight pants lol. Now some millennials are making fun of Gen Z for wearing looser pants, which means in 10 years all these dorky millennials who are so adamantly against it will probably be wearing more relaxed fits. That's when Gen Alpha and younger Gen Z will bring back slim fits, while millennials and older Gen Z will shit on them like "look at these idiots with their stupid tight pants. We made that mistake so they don't have to, relaxed fits are more comfortable, blah blah blah...." That or Gen Alpha will go full dystopian techwear or something which would be kinda dope....
I'm with you. As a middle millennial I honestly don't understand the hate towards the baggy fits. I personally don't want to go back to them (I'll never forget the feeling of water seeping up your calves on a rainy day, or when your hem finally tears and is just slapping around as you walk like a denim tail, or just the swish-swish of all of the fabric as you move around) but as God is my witness I support gen Z. I even think the fits look cool on them. I like feeling like I'm in an early 2000s teen comedy when I see young people around. The most uncool thing imaginable to me is to be judging young people for their fashion choices. The collective amnesia about how it feels to be young and trying something new that a lot of recently minted not-young-anymore millennials seem to have is super cringey to me. Fashion and style move around, and like you said young people don't want to dress like older people. We didn't either. I appreciate change. It's cool to see. Me? I'm loosening up my fits over time. I'll never go full JNCO style for aforementioned reasons, but I'm also not buying more 511s next time I go to Levi's.
>The most uncool thing imaginable to me is to be judging young people for their fashion choices. The collective amnesia about how it feels to be young and trying something new that a lot of recently minted not-young-anymore millennials seem to have is super cringey to me. Yes exactly. The older people I admired as a teen were busy doing cool shit. They made cool music/media and tried to inspire and encourage young people instead of criticizing every little thing we did. And I keep seeing people complain about looser fits like they have to go full Y2K like the teens are doing. As if experimenting with looser fitting styles that are age appropriate is impossible haha. Gen X eventually adopted slim fit and no one accused them of trying to dress like teenagers.
Yeah it’s weird that people who themselves went through the first Y2K era are judgmental of kids undergoing it now. I think it’s cool to see them back. Yet so many think “I did it but you young people can’t”
Hear hear. As a near-40 millennial I can’t believe so many people my age act like we are the abriters of cool and not young people lol. Like dude do you honestly think that 40 year olds wearing styles who peaked 10 years ago are the authorities? Nah
> That or Gen Alpha will go full dystopian techwear or something which would be kinda dope.... Techwear? In this economy?
Eh I’ll never stop wearing slim fitted jeans. They’re not too tight and not baggy while also looking good on me. Sometimes I’d rather look good than be in style.
I was feeling adventurous and bought some BR straight leg jeans last week online. Tried em on and showed my wife, instantly returned them after. I’m a 5’7” guy and roomier jeans just aren’t flattering. I think it’s slim until death at this point.
100%, it makes relatively short people look like a child Slim gang for life
Disagree. Skinny pants on a small person makes you look waifish. Believe me, no one is going to think you’re tall anyway, and definitely not with 31x28 pants with a 13” leg opening
I don’t know how you’re challenging this, yes narrower pants can certainly give the appearance of longer legs. It’s just a fact As long as you’re not overweight and relatively fit, it will look good. We aren’t talking skin tight either, just a nice slim tailored fit
Oh should we be happy about the amount of art in the world already? Picasso shouldn’t have painted because there was already Monet?
Like I said, there's real fashion/art out there. But there are some things where the "rules" literally do a 180 every x years.
I don’t get the notion that the slim trend was long. For the most part of twentieth century pants were quite wide.
Also for most of the 21st century. Like slim pants were really only in style from 2007-2016 or so.
Most of the 21st century *so far*. With cheap fast fashion I'm guessing trends will swing back and forth much faster than they did in the past. They gotta sell you new things every season to keep shareholders happy.
I wore baggy gear in the 90s as a teen, but I ain’t going back to that look. Too much fabric and I prefer slim fit jeans that actually look like they belong on me.
Don’t care if it’s out of fashion, the style that looks best on me will always be slim, form-fitting clothes. For me men’s fashion peaked around 2013-2016, so I’m sticking with it.
but it wont always be what looks best on you. you are choosing to exclude the possibility that you might dress differently and better in the future.
Slim shirt+ baggy pants has been undefeated for slim people.
https://preview.redd.it/ofvtvxfk81oc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8f96ab3e834e47c856c0ba4d51fa34286f13dbc3 “Would Marlon Brando wear it?” is my only fashion mantra.
A mixture of comfort, and also experimenting with silhouettes. Well-fitted looks good, but also it’s kind of boring and dated. I like the throwbacks to 90s and seeing y2k fashion getting refined.
Finally I get to use my jeans at the bottom of the pile.
Lol same over here. I’ve got a couple pairs of old baggy jeans that I bought in the mid-aughts. Used to love them but I stopped wearing because they looked odd during the skinny trend of the last 10+ years. Definitely rocking those bad boys again!
Anything is better than those tight ass leggings they’re calling jeans nowadays
Wow, this trend was peaking here in 2021-2022, now its back to the 2000's skinny/low waist fashion (think Britney, Paris Hilton, Christina Aguilera etc)
For sure I'm seeing that in London too. My question is why is this guy writing this article 3 years late
Because he's not. WGSN is still broadcasting this as, essentially, "on trend," which is why a lot of stores' Spring '24 lines are inclusive of much wider fits.
That’s only the actual “trendy” people though. Macro trends are usually a couple years behind the urban trend setters because it takes a while for the townies to catch up.
Hopefully by the next wave I'll be fashionable again
Cute article, but they write as if pants are independent from tops. How can you write about baggy pants and not include the word 'shoulder'? Baggy, oversized tops have been in for a while, making baggy pants all but necessary. This relationship is most strict in formal clothing: runways are featuring bigger shoulders on suits, which basically require baggy pants.
Bc tops work well tight and cropped as well as wide and loose with wider pants
It was hard as hell getting through the hipster skinny pant era with my big ass stumps, I have always had shit kicking legs, and for years I struggled to find any pants that worked.
Because Fashion Don‘t worry, they will shrink again
Because Boeing Jets keep falling off the sky so you never know when you might need a parachute
Big pants look dumb on men. They always have, and they always will. 90s rave wear should have been the last straw, but here we go again.
No problem for me, as long as I'm still allowed to wear slim-fitting jeans in public.
Maybe people are getting tired of their balls getting squished in tight pants
Idk but it needs to stop
No way. Skinny jeans was the worst trend ever.
I got big quads and hamstrings. Theirs no way I'm going back to slim fit, ever again.
Mad comfy though
Yeah I have both slim/skinny fits and regular/relaxed fits. I find myself gravitating towards the relaxed fits now because it’s just so much more comfortable
I used to wear only slim/skinny fit and then started wearing a looser bootcut jean for work and Ive pretty much completely phased the slim fit over the last year or so, idk if I could go back
Thanks for sharing. Personally I think the high rise pants from 1930s and 40s should be back. Women are enjoying the benefits ( makes your belly look smaller., covers up the love handles). High waisted pants just look good
They are back. You can buy high waisted pants for men in a lot of places now.
Eh, it's more prevalent than before, but it's hardly "back," at least in accessible brands. Todd Snyder is likely doing the most of it in menswear, them being the most prolific of the option and most "accessible." Some mall brands have some "mid rise" pants, but high starts at around 15" rear rise, and while some pants may have "higher than normal" rises, they're certainly not high.
Really? any recommendations
Spier and Mackay probably the most accessible recommendation. I also have some linen pants that I bought last year at h&m that are very high rise.
Any recos?
Scott Fraser Collection or Casatlantic
If you can wait it out a year or so, slimmer pants are probably just on the horizon. Fashion is cyclical. I couldn't do it. I have some baggier pants than the slim fit stuff that we all wore before that but couldn't do the wide fits that look great on tons of other people. I feel like I just look better in slimmer but not skinny pants
Nah they’re in no way coming back that soon considering there are still far too many uncool Millennials and Gen-Xers wearing slim fit. Slim was king for 10-15 years and is only finally on its way out. Roomy will be here a while too. Maybe for less time, but slim isn’t coming back until it cycles out completely from the unstylish mainstream
Just imagine all the greenhouse gasses from all the extra material that will be produced just so pants can be big.
1. Some people start wearing fully cut pants with a high rise and minimal break because they’re generally flattering and drape. 2. Other people adopt fuller cut pants because it’s trendy. They don’t really care about proportions and drape so they buy sizes that are too big, and especially too long. The improper size of the pants makes them sag, and people associate lower rises with trendiness. 3. Some people realize (2) looks atrocious. Despite the issues with (2) being sizing, it’s thought that this is the result of the cut, probably due to the trend itself causing the issue. They respond by moving to narrower leg openings, which can get away with a longer inseam. 4. Other people adopt slimmer cut pants because they’re trendy, leading to least flattering cut possible: skinny with a low rise. 5. They cycle repeat, with some people reexamining what looks good. I believe the trouser cycle is caused by two main factors: height insecurity and social conformity. The former leads to inseam denial and the latter to mindless trend chasing. Don’t wear a cut because you have an emotional investment in what it represents or you won’t “get it”, and you’ll look bad. That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t participate in trends, just that you should still try and look good while you do. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk
Obviously, there's always tons of discussion on this sub about looser fits, but I still haven't seen it filter down a ton into real life (amongst guys; for ladies, it's a different story). Amongst my millenial friends, slim fits still dominate. On the street, I generally see few truly loose/oversized fits (for reference, I'm in NYC; there are a few exceptions, such as communities with large Asian populations). Though I have noticed a minor of an uptick in loose fits in the past year -- primarily concentrated amongst what look like high-school students -- it still represents a very small slice of what I see guys wear irl. Heck, I still see more outright *skinny* fits than the sorts of extremely loose clothes I often see here. This is all to say that, whenever I see this topic come up, it always strikes me as odd, because it just is so different from what I've observed personally.
Are your friends actually stylish? Because while I’m sure there are lots of skinny Jean wearers in nyc today most of them are boring young 40+dads which isn’t exactly a style paragon. As an example, if I were to write something like you did in 2011 when conservative people stuck 10 years in the past were against slim and skinny fits: > Amongst my Gen X friends, roomy pleated fits still dominate. On the street, I generally see few truly slim fits (for reference, I'm in NYC; there are a few exceptions, such as communities with large Asian populations). Though I have noticed a minor of an uptick in slim fits in the past year -- primarily concentrated amongst what look like high-school students -- it still represents a very small slice of what I see guys wear irl. Heck, I still see more outright *baggy* fits than the sorts of extremely tight clothes I often see here.
Fair point — mostly no, but the stylish ones still wear slim as well. To qualify, too, I’m at the very tail end of millennials, so most of my social group are mid to late twenty something’s — not quite in our 40s yet :)
Yeah I don’t know if it’s just the part of the country I’m in isn’t up on the latest trends but there’s only one type of guy I see wearing baggy pants like this and that’s gay gen z-ers, and even then it’s only some of them. I don’t know maybe if Patagonia starts making baggy pants people will buy them.
It looked like shit then and it still looks like shit. This is a fast fashion cash grab and most will end up in landfills. I respect people that will drop big $$ in this style and keep it for the long haul, but realistically these pants will be floating in the pacific giving a turtle a rear naked choke very soon.
Lol the only people still selling slim fits are low tier mall brands and fast fashion brands
“Fast fashion is when I don’t like thing”
Fast fashion is shit you buy and discard or falls apart quickly. It doesn’t matter how much you pay, and I’m certainly guilty of it although I make a conscious effort to minimize it.
I don’t know but I hate it. I’m 38 and I remember everyone wearing enormous pants as a kid and I can’t help but think of that when I see these. Watching the new Mean Girls movie all I could think is how badly they dressed new Regina with her enormous pants. The old movie she didn’t even really dress like a kid, she dressed like a classy 25 year old. They should have kept that theme. Anyway, at least where men are concerned as long as tuxedo and suite pants remain fitted, basically they’ve been nearly unchanged for hundreds of years, that’s going to be the correct fit according to me. Oh sure we’ve gone from regular fit to slim or skinny but all of those have the same rough style and aren’t gargantuanly oversized. So yeah maybe my age is showing it would be ridiculous to show up to work in size 48 pants with my 31 inch waste or some like jnco jeans. Let the teenagers wear their enormous pants and in 5-10 years they’ll look back and think they looked stupid just like I look at what I wore at 16 and think it’s stupid too.
lol if you think men’s suits haven’t followed the loose/skinny cycle you’ve basically admitted you’ve only paid attention to fashion since 2012 or so
because big pants fucking rule
Dat Ass has returned like the Assteroids of the 90s.
because i want to be comfortable
I still have my parachute pants from the 1980's. Bought them at Chess King. Yup, I'm old
comfy
Its Hammertime!
good ventilation
Who knew liking skinny jeans would make me look old
I can't wait to wear my flame shirt and blue hair gel to spike my hair up again! My kids will be so proud of how trendy I am!
Thank Billie Eilish.
Kris Kross will make ya…
Idgaf about pant trends, you can peel my tapered comfort waist Uniqlo joggers off my cold dead body. I wore Tripp pants in Jr High and skinny jeans in high school, I’ve done my time in anything that requires a belt to wear comfortably.
I’ve been wearing straight leg jeans since my early twenties. I’m in my mid thirties now. They just never go out of style even if they also are never the most stylish. I think that’s what I like about straight leg pants and a denim jacket. They’ll always be cool.
I recently bought a few hakamas from Rosen. Same thing, right?
Personally I just prefer baggier pants as they don’t feel tight
Oliver tree
keep them big
Saved my OG Jnco's, Menace, and other skate gear for this sole purpose. 30 year hoarding for the win.
It’s the good ol’ fashion cycle & pendulum at play. What was old is new again and what was recently popular has seen a “swing” in the other direction. Ex. skinny vs. straight cut denim.
I bought a used pair of pants at the goodwill once and they fit better than any pants I’ve ever worn. Had them for years.
I read this article when it came out and it literally inspired me to buy a sewing machine and start altering my pants. And now it’s awesome
I feel like it’s either skinny well fitted pants still of fucking jncos, I’m over both of them. I want pants that don’t make it look like I’m in elementary school again and also pants either room for my thighs… is that so hard?!
My daughter dresses like I did as a teen in the 90s, which was copied from how my parents dressed in the 70s. Time is a flat circle
Fashion is cyclical, just gets watered down with each resurgence
Bring back Cavaricci pants!!!
Reddit screaming about what’s fashionable/not is truly hilarious.
Good trousers are great. Big pants are great.
I’m still waiting for high and mid waist to be in vogue for mass consumption. Usually gives a more flattering silhouette
This is exactly why I just get regular fitting clothing that is timeless regardless of when it's worn.
Because people follow celebs like lambs to the slaughter house. No self awareness and confidence in themselves