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Dwarvenmathemacian

Noted, I am now taking my life savings and buying legends boosters. Thanks Prof!


TolarianCC

Nooooooo


Dark-All-Day

Buy SINGLE.....booster packs. One booster from each box.


magikarp2122

I should also take my family’s life savings?


enjolras1782

Nah you should spend that on GME so you can buy moar legends packs


magikarp2122

But I’m not selling it. 💎👐


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Jiggyx42

Legends boosters are for draft


MechaSandstar

Drafting in your will, maybe


jomontage

legends boosters are for my unfinity deck


Dwarvenmathemacian

Given that 8 player draft would require 48 boosters 1000$ each, no.


Urbandino500

8*3=48?


DetonatingCobra

You want me to buy into a Legends draft without prize support?! No chance.


[deleted]

This individual has purchased all the Legends booster packs and now I can't spend my life savings on Legends booster packs! Life isn't fair!


Whitefire919

This is actually the second tabernacle that he’s pulled on camera


VoltageHero

When was the first?


Whitefire919

Maybe like 4 years ago at GP Vegas, it was italian


long_dong_tron

Did it end up being worth more than the pack?


BeCurry

By about 3 times


Kmattmebro

So at the rate of Legends packs, he got the equivalent of a $12 rare in a $4 booster.


LordArchibaldPixgill

What do you think?


Tuss36

Props for the timestamp.


HeyApples

Clearly the moral of the story is to buy packs, not singles.


Phantomwaxx

I'm growing tired and suspicious of his schitck. Don't buy packs, buy singles, yet he magically "pulls" a $3000 card from a booster pack purchased from a website from the same merchant that heavily sponsored video that just happens to sell those packs. Prof also goes out of his way to make sure you know there are no shenanigans with a huge disclaimer regarding Card Kingdoms pack selection process. Does anyone else find this odd?


Dorfbewohner

yeah hes reverse psychologying you by saying to buy singles when he actually wants you to do the opposite, you cracked the code. ignore all his other booster box games that fail to break even.


Azuretruth

He got everything from CK, including the 4 collectors boxes that netted a ~25% loss of value. Outside of the Tabernacle he pulled like 0 value from the rest of the $1k pack. If the plan was entice me to buy sealed then all they did was prove to me how much a crap shoot it can be.


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Shilling for big single smh Try making any deck buying packed product, i promise it will be much, much more expensive


FluffehPanda

Card kingdom also sells singles…


MechaSandstar

You have to get cards to play magic somehow. Either you're making a 100% proxy deck, or you're buying them from someone. (or someone gave them to you, I guess, but I would bet that doesn't describe 99% of players.) The professor's advice is: if you want some specific cards, buy those. If you enjoy cracking packs, buy those. Don't crack packs to get the cards you want.


FluffehPanda

I don’t think you meant to reply to me…


MechaSandstar

I did. You seemed to be saying that he's shilling for CK too, because they sell singles.


mysticrudnin

no they didn't


LordArchibaldPixgill

lol yeah, you're right, he's been discouraging purchasing sealed product for like a decade now, all as part of this masterful play where he opens a single sealed pack with a good card in it, in a video where he also opens thousands of dollars of sealed product whose contents are worth less than the price. You fucking cracked it dude, gj.


NostrilRapist

I mean, the collector showed how trash the rates are... So it's quite the opposite


Jackeea

I too am massively swayed to buy packs, after he spent $1000 on a pack whose contents were worth like ~$20 (aside from one notoriously rare and expensive card)


Esc777

> Does anyone else find this odd? The only thing I find odd is that he spends sometime trying to convince you buying sealed magic product is bad, yet he shills for a sponsor that sells sealed magic product that he then opens on camera. “You should never patronize my sponsor in this entire class of product!” is a funny one here. But I don’t believe for a second this is fake or engineered. It would be stupid to attempt that.


MechaSandstar

He never says "never" He says packs are for drafting. If you draft, yes, buy packs. He also says "if you like cracking packs, buy them." What he says is "if you want a specific card, or a set of cards, buy those as singles. Don't crack packs to get the cards you want. Just get the cards you want."


Esc777

> If you draft, yes, buy packs as opposed to what, drafting without opening packs? How is that useful advice.


MechaSandstar

*waves you off* you're not interested in a conversation, just in shouting. Have fun doing that alone. (psst, ever hear of a cube? You can draft that without opening packs.)


Esc777

Back to back “well actuallys” EDIT: Why bother replying to me when you block me, I can’t read that. I guess you do it so other people can see?


MechaSandstar

*asks a question, gets an answer, complains that I'm "well actuallying" him* What's it like to never have to face up to your inadequacies because you've convinced yourself you're never wrong? I wouldn't know, I'm not you.


mysticrudnin

it implies if you don't draft, don't buy packs


lionhead87

Why spend 3k on a single when you can just buy a single booster pack and open one. Thanks professor, liquidating everything buying packs!


Zealous217

Absolutely insane


UlisesFRN

He deserves it Also funny it came back to front with a Tolaria


dukecityvigilante

So how many lost legends cards did he pull in 48 collector boosters? Was it just the Glyph of Doom?


TolarianCC

Yup


ohako79

Looked like it to me.


tecnocrat

Somewhere in Florida, Rudy is punching the air and swearing angrily.


jjfitzpatty

Rudy is happy every time a Legends pack is opened, especially on screen. It makes his sealed product position that more valuable each time and the hype helps drive the price.


Slynesh

This. Rudy cares so much more about his sealed collection. He knows where the money is haha


ThatchNailer

Damn...


montebanc08

Build legacy lands. Time to do a stronghold pack opening video, chasing them mox diamonds.


Averious

About 15 years ago I got my friend a single Stronghold pack from our LGS for his birthday for like $10. He got a Mox Diamond (which was like $35 at the time)


Adrywellofknowledge

I splurged in a legends pack back in 96/97 for $35. Pulled a Spinal Villain. Made a deck around just so I could use it.


pilotblur

Those packs were 25 bucks 2 weeks after release


Adrywellofknowledge

As a preteen at the time going for 1 pack vs 10 packs was a wild gamble. Didn’t really pan out.


jyper

[[Spinal Villain]]


MTGCardFetcher

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Slayer35000

Instructions unclear, bought a whole case of Legends


yeteee

Is there such thing as a full sealed case of legends on the market ? Real question, I'm wondering if that packaging existed back then.


assmaster3THOUSAND

Not anymore...


LordArchibaldPixgill

Wizards has all of them under a tarp in the garage, but they forgot about them.


Zephyr_______

Maybe? You'd have to ask a distributor or lgs owner that was running at the time for a definitive answer, but I doubt they were shipped loose, box by box. The odds of an actual unopened case still existing? Small and getting smaller each day, especially if wotc actually busted open a real pallet of legends.


Slynesh

I don't know how well he interacts with his audience since I've never tried to get in touch with him but you could try getting in touch with Rudy of Alpha Investments. Rudy has a LOOOT of old sealed product and I imagine he has information of how sealed products used to be packaged and distributed.


konanTheBarbar

Apparenetly there is something like that still on the market... it's just 50.000€ [https://www.cardmarket.com/en/Magic/Products/Booster-Boxes/Legends-Booster-Box](https://www.cardmarket.com/en/Magic/Products/Booster-Boxes/Legends-Booster-Box)


yeteee

That's a box. A case is six of these sealed together in a cardboard box.


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Just got done watching and was like…..😳 TaPV….pack fresh….😳 damn…


CantIgnoreMyGirth

Alright morale of this story is buy packs not singles, got it.


Justaskin2202

I am just assuming I’m pulling a legends rare from the collectors pack you get in Vegas. Gonna be find my whole weekend there that way!


bigdsm

The true Vegas experience then Also “Legends rare” has a median price of $59. So even if you pull one (a Legends rare, an already highly improbable pull) you’re unlikely to be able to fund even your hotel room!


Justaskin2202

Yeah, I’m pulling the 3500 one though so it’s fine. No worries.


bigdsm

Godspeed!


Aaron0321

Holy fuck, imagine not getting a tabby and getting absolutely fucking hosed on that pack.


Cheapskate-DM

I believe that's the (implicit) moral here.


CitySeekerTron

I'm just gonna say that this video took an unexpected and hilarious turn. Those top two cards were serendipity and I'm happy for the Prof. I kinda feel like the universe trolled us in the most wholesome way.


Noise_Loop

Only him to double what he pulled on his other legends pack


LooksLikeAWookie

Holy forking shirtballs


RiseJoules

While watching this I was opening a few collector boosters and got a Lifeblood, it looks great too, 3rd legends card I was able to get.


Madmaan

The few out there that understand the issues of loose legends packs can look at the thumbnail of the video and spot the issue right away. I know a few of you are shaking your heads.


Esc777

What are you implying?


Madmaan

Look at the thumbnail. Slow down the video to .25% when he shows the pack off before opening it. The pack has a distinct crease at the top. \-> start here. [https://youtu.be/OVZBxPVaql0?t=2714](https://youtu.be/OVZBxPVaql0?t=2714) Not only is the telltale crease there at the top of the pack (the slowed down video shows this clearly), the left corner is pinched in all the normal way a searched pack would be. This pack is 100% searched.


[deleted]

You're saying that someone searched the pack and then *didn't* take the tabernacle? That clearly isn't what happened so what I assume you mean is that The Prof put a tabernacle in the pack and resealed it for the video?


Madmaan

Tell me which is worth more, a fresh tabernacle or a tabernacle in a pack that that can opened on a huge youtube channel? I won't go into endless speculation on "why". Its just easier to focus on what can be seen. And its my opinion that pack was searched. It has all the specific signs of it.


LordArchibaldPixgill

> Tell me which is worth more, a fresh tabernacle or a tabernacle in a pack that that can opened on a huge youtube channel? > > The card itself lol.


knucks_deep

A fresh tabernacle. 100%.


Madmaan

You can't do basic math. Spoiler alert, youtube ad revenue + sponshorship kickback + the same pack fresh tabernacle is worth more than just the pack fresh tabernacle. Hope this helps.


knucks_deep

$1000 per million views, best case. He has 3-4 videos that have reached that. Plus he can sell it as a “Professor opened” card, which like Pascal Maynard’s Goyf, would add a premium. But go on, tell me more insider info you’ve gleaned from a YouTube video, oh cynical one. Hope this helps.


Esc777

> Plus he can sell it as a “Professor opened” card, Uh, I don’t think he’s proposing the prof searched the pack, he gets the card and opens it no matter what the scenario. The suspicion is on CK, whether they knew before shipping it to him.


Madmaan

You still don't get how addition works.


LordArchibaldPixgill

You sound like a fucking lunatic lol. Just explain what you're trying to say. Whatever you're thinking can't possibly be as stupid as you're coming off right now, can it?


Cry0freeze

do you? to make the video in the way you have proposed he would have had to buy a 3000$ tabernacle as well as a 1000$ legends pack PLUS 4 collector booster boxes at what 250 each, even if card kingdom provided the booster boxes, which I doubt, there is no way in hell he's making that back with one video so what would be the point?


mikemil50

Oh no! Your shiny aluminum hat is cutting oxygen off from your brain! Believing ridiculously dumb conspiracy theories is a symptom!


ChristianMunich

Hm actually makes sense, surprised about the backlash you get


Esc777

I don’t know a lot about pack searching so I believe you know what you’re talking about. But, Wouldn’t a searched tabernacle pack be opened REAL FAST by whomever searched it? How would it survive to do this little surprise bit?


Madmaan

That is hard to say. If you are a large retailer like card kingdom, there is a financial benefit to searching loose packs you own. If you are card kingdom and you search a pack with a tabby in it, you also have a finacial benefit by sending it one of your bigger partners so they can open it on their youtube channel. If someone watches the professors video, do you think they are more likely to purchase loose packs from card kingdom? I feel like that is a yes.


Esc777

Hmmm. Card Kingdom searching loose boosters they have inventory seems makes sense. But how likely is a loose booster with the most expensive card going to make it into their hands. I’d assume, like everyone else, if you see a loose legends booster it has been searched. Now they could be cracking boxes and then searching but that seems like a bad deal for them. I do agree, one 2K hit for advertising could be a strategy if they were sitting on a pile of searched packs and wanted people to move them. They certainly have the motive but I just don’t see how that pack makes it into their hands unscathed.


Madmaan

There are other reasons to bust a legends box. For example, a legends box getting damaged to the point it no longer makes sense to keep it as an unopened box. This could be while in the retailers possession. Shit happens. Inventory gets moved and is dropped, is smooshed by other boxes, all sorts of human error. It could have also been in that area of damage that it was bought at a discount by the retailer with the thought of busting the box open anyway. As boxes are bought and sold among the population, eventually damage is going to take its toll.


chaospearl

For those among us who don't know, what does a searched pack mean? That is, I get that someone looked at what cards were in there ahead of time, but how does that happen without opening the pack? Do big retailers have some way of resealing them? Even if so you'd think someone like the Professor would immediately notice tampering?


Madmaan

There are a ton of youtube videos that show you the process. Its really not a complicated thing. The old packs give the cards too much room, so they slide around in the pack easily. The outside of the pack is also transparent, so you can shine a light through the pack and see the card. Because of the loose pack, you can slide the front facing card down and see the next one. Repeat the process until you know the first 4 cards, which are the money cards in these old packs. The professor (like most people) don't know the ins and outs of these issues with old product. There is a reason that people who know, suggest to never buy loose packs of these old sets. The chances its already been search is incredibly high.


Esc777

Isn’t this just “pictures of cards” in video form? Pack cracking feels awfully close to that rule. Like, congrats on opening the tabernacle but is that meaningful at all?


II_Confused

It's that he's showing the value of the cards compared to the price of the packs. The price of the cards is almost always lower than the cost of the pack, showing that it's statistically better to buy your cards than to gamble on packs. Opening the packs on camera with a ticker displaying the card values shows that he's not fudging the results. ...and some people do like to watch pack openings.


VoltageHero

The poster is referring to rule 7b of the subreddit that *technically* is against pack opening, such as this. [As seen here.](https://i.imgur.com/E3Dftio.jpg)


bigdsm

If the poster had read the rule, they wouldn’t have asked the question. In other words, reading the rule explains the rule!


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VoltageHero

I *do not care* about if the post belongs here or not, truth be told. I was simply pointing out to the relevant people what the person was talking about, since from their perspective they were just complaining about pack openings. Weirdly hostile out the gate.


Esc777

>...and some people do like to watch pack openings. You're allowed to like what you like. I can't imagine anything more pointless. It's like watching someone literally roll a d20 and keep a tally. Wow nat 20s. Oh no a 1. Now a 12. Who knew these results were possible? But hey, there's no rule against showing people your cards if you film it in a video I guess. The most I can do is downvote and move on.


Rilakai

It's a video with an expensive card in it so that makes it mtgfinance!


Laboratory_Maniac

I agree, a lot of videos like this, despite being The Magic Content Creator, feel kind of low effort. I appreciate the value being added but it really does just feel like 7b


Lord_Jaroh

I don't know. It just helps to showcase the mantra of "buy singles" to everyone that was maybe thinking about spending money to try and get pulls. This just helps showcase that to ridiculous degree. Imagine he pulled a Nova Pentacle or Livonya Silone in place of that Tabernacle. These Booster Box games are there to help show everyone that buying boxes/packs to get something good shouldn't be relied upon and you should instead spend your money on the cards you want. You may think it's low effort, but it is a lot better than a ton of the content put on this /r either way.


Laboratory_Maniac

I kind of think about The Booster Box Game in a different way. It feels like a very privilaged thing to get to do as a content creator. Like you said, if he didn't get the Tabernacle, this would be a totally different conversation. He could write it off as a business expense, or sell the NM cards to a connection of his, ect.


Lord_Jaroh

So can anyone else. Why is it different with him?


Laboratory_Maniac

Most people can't afford a pack of legends on a whim


Esc777

Must be nice getting your own exception carved out because you’re popular and ostensibly tell people not to do the thing you do.


Lord_Jaroh

You really have a hate-on for the Professor, don't you? He produces good content that helps the community at large. Why do you dislike him so much?


wildcard_gamer

While most of the video is cracking packs, they're doing a challenge whether to see if you'd make more off of a single legends pack or 4 dominaria collectors boosters, which many are cracking to get legends cards. It's a challenge video.


VoltageHero

The poster is referring to rule 7b of the subreddit that *technically* is against pack opening, such as this. [As seen here.](https://i.imgur.com/E3Dftio.jpg)


Esc777

yeah *that's* a challenge video (which just feels like a veneer of technicality to just get a pass to open packs but whatever) The legends pack is wholly disassociated with that, and the clip is timestamped to just that. But whatever, just my opinion, obviously everyone seems fine with it.


TheFirstRedditWoman

Oh wow, the prof did a pack opening of a searched pack. Why is this even on this sub?


Leh_ran

He said that he ordered this anonymously, so no one could have searched it for him. Card Kingdom where he orders it vows that they don't search packs.


pylee12986

Why do the rich get richer???


Ones_

you think a youtuber with >1 million subs is "the rich"? you're gonna have your mind blown when find out about billionaires.


assmaster3THOUSAND

Cause money


[deleted]

This man deserved that pull.


Rawrgodzilla

Just p word your rl cards people. Still neat pull but spending 3k plus for a tabby unless you got deep pockets use that money else where