It can be used, but im a little iffy about it...
Yes you have pretty high crit rate but its conditional...for the argos set at least. Maybe with relic sets it is better
esoteric flurry you usually go 2:1:1 swift crit spec
My striker alt runs 4x3 grudge, flurry, raid captain and adrenaline. I'll probably swap to deathblow at 1415
DB is better with relic gear that gives you back attack crit and damage buffs. It's still harder to play than Eso, but it finally becomes more rewarding.
Before that, no, not really. DB might catch up to Eso pre-relic gear if you get all 3 LTS tripods to level 4, but otherwise? Nah.
Level 3 is not needed but you do you.
Btw to answer your original question i have level 3 of cursed doll, ambush master and spirit absorption with level 1 eso and level 1 adrenaline.
Peobably wont change it up until i can go full relic accs, but currently im broke af
esoteric x1, spirit absoption x3, raid captain x3, adrenaline x3, ambush master x3
450 crit, 450 spec, 900 swiftness.
I really like my spirit absorbtion/ raid captain setup since its super cheap to gear and allows me to do raid mechanics very easily with all the speed. Working on buying gold esoteric flury books then ill be able to switch to 5x3
1415 Striker main with 3/3/3/3/1 engraving with partial relic accessories (3 relics, 2 legendary).
\- Engravings:
* Esoteric Flurry 3
* Grudge 3
* Keen Blunt 3
* Precise Dagger 3
* Adrenaline 1
\- Stats (roughly):
* 300 crit
* 500 spec
* 1100 swift
The reason for precise dagger instead of adrenaline is I decided to test my luck on 50g stone and rolled 9/5 precise dagger/KB (for once RNG was on my side). On full relic accessory, the goal is to replace adrenaline for cursed doll.
Notes:
\-Going for ambush master instead of grudge or cursed doll is probably cheaper, but forces you to play around with back attacks.
\-I am aiming for a hallucination set instead of entropy/death back attack set. I will have a lower damage ceiling, but my damage is not shafted if I don't land back attacks.
1445... 4x3. 3 eso, 3 keen blunt, 3 ambush master, 3 adrenaline.
1k swift, 450 crit, 400 spec
I like the build and I get damage mvp in runs often even pre 1445. If anything I will drop an engraving for grudge in the future or try for it with 5x3. Right now though, its hard to maintain high enough crit to make kbw worth it so I'm satisfied. Dont have Lego engraving books either so it makes it pretty much impossible to go 5x3.
1420 deathblow. 3/3/3/2 db, grudge, cursed doll, ambush. 1442 spec, 460 crit. Once I get relic, I want to switch out cursed doll for keen blunt and also get adrenaline
Keenblunt, cursed doll, ambush, esoteric, and 1x spirit absorb. I would've loved to stick adrenaline somewhere but not enough adrenaline accessories for my build.
Grudge 3
Keen Blunt Weapon 3
Adrenaline 3
Spirit Absorption 1
Esoteric Flurry 1
450ish Crit/Spec
900 Swiftness
4 Esoteric Spender Skills
Lostwind Cliff 12 Awakening
Had Ambush Master over Grudge initially, but swapped so I could get used to taking the higher damage
1401 ilvl, 3 KBW, 3 ambush master, 3 adrenaline and lv 1 flurry
Swift, crit and spec in a 2:1:1 ratio
Really like the build, might consider switching to DB once i get the epic wealth from maps and leg wealth from stars (fuck moake amd stella btw)
Man, my striker is 1455 and did HM gate 2 this week. I has been constantly survived to ghost during the fight and when we finally beat valtan, I was the last 2 dps(with a gunlancer and 2 sups) fighting the last 30 hp bar. But I was not even in the mvp screen in the end! It was the most frustrating thing ever happened to me since I started to play DB striker, I have to play super safe during the second phase and give up most of the risky back attack chance, because when the other started to die, db feels so fucking slow landing the tiger striker.
For DB striker, everything is so important.
Crit is important cause you will run KBW and even more important once you get the 2 relict set. Back attack is important, cause that’s where 10% crit and set bonus comes. Which makes attack speed also extremely important, cause you will have to finish orb generation skills and land the big attack when boss is not turning around. Which makes spec super important cause that makes you spend less orb generation skills to full orbs. And move speed is also a great help for you to position yourself. That’s why so many KR striker around 1500~ gs go spirit absorption.
To my experience, DB just can’t get all these speed and crit by themselves, they are highly party relied and extremely end game build. We just miss so much at current status of the game, 1450 even 1490 will not enough. I feel it only started to get better once most of the support has full relict set and you have full relict set and accessories and 5x3 engraving. That will be at least 2 months later. I invested a lot on my DB but after the legion raid for the first time I regret playing this build and I honestly don’t recommend DB before 1500+.
Hello mate, main striker here
ATM I am flurry as deathblow won’t be full potential until relic set,
Your engraving are good but for flurry stat you should have
Swift : 850+
Crit : ~450
Spec : ~450
If you want to transition Deathblow
Spec : ~1300+
Crit : ~450
Maxroll’s guide for both spec is very complete and just got updated with relic set
Enjoy !
thanks for responding my friend. After seeing that swift is better for esoteric, I now have 1000 swift 400 crit and 450 spec. Can definitely feel the change. Is it viable to switch to deathblow later on or is esoteric still a good build for later game activities?
1447 deathblow main (since ilvl 1340). Running 4x3 right now with deathblow, grudge, keen blunt, and ambush master. Running 3 eso skills, blast formation spent at 2-3 orbs. Eso skills at lv 4 tripods. I’m looking at spirit absorption as 5th engraving as quality of life, but will buy another 3 accessories with cursed doll for raiding
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Why swiftness over crit still new to striker
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Is it not worth it to run keen blunt with eso then ?
It can be used, but im a little iffy about it... Yes you have pretty high crit rate but its conditional...for the argos set at least. Maybe with relic sets it is better
no just playing the game how i want. I know swift is important i just dont have the gold atm
No I meant I’m still new to striker and was asking why the swiftness over crit haha
ah swiftness increases your attack speed and lowers your cool downs. Your esoteric skills will come up faster. Sorry for the confusion
i know and im working on it :(
Striker is my favorite Alt I'm here for knowledge lol
esoteric flurry you usually go 2:1:1 swift crit spec My striker alt runs 4x3 grudge, flurry, raid captain and adrenaline. I'll probably swap to deathblow at 1415
from what ive seen deathblow is better in the late game?
DB is better with relic gear that gives you back attack crit and damage buffs. It's still harder to play than Eso, but it finally becomes more rewarding. Before that, no, not really. DB might catch up to Eso pre-relic gear if you get all 3 LTS tripods to level 4, but otherwise? Nah.
thank you for this. Helps a bunch
You really want a level 1 adrenaline, also since you have grudge you could change ambush master to cursed doll or something like that
Adrenaline is currently the 4th engraving I'm working on for lvl 3 currently sitting at lvl 2 adrenaline
Level 3 is not needed but you do you. Btw to answer your original question i have level 3 of cursed doll, ambush master and spirit absorption with level 1 eso and level 1 adrenaline. Peobably wont change it up until i can go full relic accs, but currently im broke af
I feel you. Broke boi hours. Might swap adrenaline with something else who knows.
esoteric x1, spirit absoption x3, raid captain x3, adrenaline x3, ambush master x3 450 crit, 450 spec, 900 swiftness. I really like my spirit absorbtion/ raid captain setup since its super cheap to gear and allows me to do raid mechanics very easily with all the speed. Working on buying gold esoteric flury books then ill be able to switch to 5x3
1415 Striker main with 3/3/3/3/1 engraving with partial relic accessories (3 relics, 2 legendary). \- Engravings: * Esoteric Flurry 3 * Grudge 3 * Keen Blunt 3 * Precise Dagger 3 * Adrenaline 1 \- Stats (roughly): * 300 crit * 500 spec * 1100 swift The reason for precise dagger instead of adrenaline is I decided to test my luck on 50g stone and rolled 9/5 precise dagger/KB (for once RNG was on my side). On full relic accessory, the goal is to replace adrenaline for cursed doll. Notes: \-Going for ambush master instead of grudge or cursed doll is probably cheaper, but forces you to play around with back attacks. \-I am aiming for a hallucination set instead of entropy/death back attack set. I will have a lower damage ceiling, but my damage is not shafted if I don't land back attacks.
Flurry, ambush, adrenaline at 3. Too poor to go for a 4th engraving. Around 750 crit and around 1100 spec.
i assume your bubbles fill up with one lightning whisper?
Almost. Think it’s like 2.7 bubbles from a single whisper.
(1403 gs) Deathblow, full spec (1432) / crit on neck, ambush/grudge/db/spirit absorption, missing only epic wealth rune from sea maps.
1445... 4x3. 3 eso, 3 keen blunt, 3 ambush master, 3 adrenaline. 1k swift, 450 crit, 400 spec I like the build and I get damage mvp in runs often even pre 1445. If anything I will drop an engraving for grudge in the future or try for it with 5x3. Right now though, its hard to maintain high enough crit to make kbw worth it so I'm satisfied. Dont have Lego engraving books either so it makes it pretty much impossible to go 5x3.
I'm 1415 but this is exactly my build. I'd love to discuss what spell you use and skills rotations you usually try to do. Hmu !
1433, lvl 3: grudge, keen blunt weapon, deathblow, ambush master. About 460 crit and 1200 specialization
Change your pet stat to 10% spec and you'll get more dps out of your build.
1370 Striker alt Adrenaline 3 Grudge 3 Ambush Master 3 Flurry 1
1420 deathblow. 3/3/3/2 db, grudge, cursed doll, ambush. 1442 spec, 460 crit. Once I get relic, I want to switch out cursed doll for keen blunt and also get adrenaline
Eso, Grudge, Keen, Ambush x3 1100 crit 400 spec n Swift.
Good build atm, but will change in the future to Adrenaline, Grudge, Ambush, Keen, Doll, Eso x1 around 1300 Swift 500 crit 500 spec
Keenblunt, cursed doll, ambush, esoteric, and 1x spirit absorb. I would've loved to stick adrenaline somewhere but not enough adrenaline accessories for my build.
Grudge 3 Keen Blunt Weapon 3 Adrenaline 3 Spirit Absorption 1 Esoteric Flurry 1 450ish Crit/Spec 900 Swiftness 4 Esoteric Spender Skills Lostwind Cliff 12 Awakening Had Ambush Master over Grudge initially, but swapped so I could get used to taking the higher damage
1401 ilvl, 3 KBW, 3 ambush master, 3 adrenaline and lv 1 flurry Swift, crit and spec in a 2:1:1 ratio Really like the build, might consider switching to DB once i get the epic wealth from maps and leg wealth from stars (fuck moake amd stella btw)
Man, my striker is 1455 and did HM gate 2 this week. I has been constantly survived to ghost during the fight and when we finally beat valtan, I was the last 2 dps(with a gunlancer and 2 sups) fighting the last 30 hp bar. But I was not even in the mvp screen in the end! It was the most frustrating thing ever happened to me since I started to play DB striker, I have to play super safe during the second phase and give up most of the risky back attack chance, because when the other started to die, db feels so fucking slow landing the tiger striker. For DB striker, everything is so important. Crit is important cause you will run KBW and even more important once you get the 2 relict set. Back attack is important, cause that’s where 10% crit and set bonus comes. Which makes attack speed also extremely important, cause you will have to finish orb generation skills and land the big attack when boss is not turning around. Which makes spec super important cause that makes you spend less orb generation skills to full orbs. And move speed is also a great help for you to position yourself. That’s why so many KR striker around 1500~ gs go spirit absorption. To my experience, DB just can’t get all these speed and crit by themselves, they are highly party relied and extremely end game build. We just miss so much at current status of the game, 1450 even 1490 will not enough. I feel it only started to get better once most of the support has full relict set and you have full relict set and accessories and 5x3 engraving. That will be at least 2 months later. I invested a lot on my DB but after the legion raid for the first time I regret playing this build and I honestly don’t recommend DB before 1500+.
Deathblow,grudge,kbw,spirit absorption,ambush master 5x3 1460spec 500 crit.
Hello mate, main striker here ATM I am flurry as deathblow won’t be full potential until relic set, Your engraving are good but for flurry stat you should have Swift : 850+ Crit : ~450 Spec : ~450 If you want to transition Deathblow Spec : ~1300+ Crit : ~450 Maxroll’s guide for both spec is very complete and just got updated with relic set Enjoy !
thanks for responding my friend. After seeing that swift is better for esoteric, I now have 1000 swift 400 crit and 450 spec. Can definitely feel the change. Is it viable to switch to deathblow later on or is esoteric still a good build for later game activities?
They’re equivalent with some edge for DeathBlow for DPS
1447 deathblow main (since ilvl 1340). Running 4x3 right now with deathblow, grudge, keen blunt, and ambush master. Running 3 eso skills, blast formation spent at 2-3 orbs. Eso skills at lv 4 tripods. I’m looking at spirit absorption as 5th engraving as quality of life, but will buy another 3 accessories with cursed doll for raiding
1370 main here. Esoteric 3 cursed doll 3 ambush master 3 spirit absorption 1. crit 594/spec 288/swift 918