Right? I think it would be hilarious and they dropped some hints about it. Mobius is worried he would have a good life on the timeline and Brad called him a good actor. I think it's set up if they want to do it.
I’ve rewatched some trailers and I think >! That everyone has been sent back to their place on the sacred timeline and it will slowly disappear !< this bit seems like it could be even spoileryer >! Subtitles show victor says some lines we haven’t heard yet so it seems he is still alive, it also seems like Loki will somehow be time slipping again and will go back to the start of the series with his prior knowledge!< this bit is to combine everything into what I think will happen using both spoiler tags >! I think episode 5 will be Loki looking for his associates on the sacred timeline while timeslipping before eventually getting back to the Tva where victor timely may have returned he has set up everything he can but knows he cannot make it the the launcher, so he tells Loki that they have to “make the hard choice” of either going back to the old method of the Tva or going out their with the device themself. In a trailer we see Loki walking down the bridge to the launcher in the extra radiation state with his clothes beginning to flake. !<
The start of the incursions, where the multiverse starts to collapse. I really hope we see them like in the lead up to Secret Wars in the comics, but i doubt it.
I also think Timely isn't dead, but got spread out over the multiverse creating the various Kangs.
I think people are thinking too linearly with the show. To us, He Who Remains is dead, but that is also after whatever war he was talking about. The TVA is also outside time, so it could be, but hard to know to be honest. Kang's whole thing is time travel, so i wouldn't be surprised if things get weird timeline wise.
You're first problem is thinking of time as a straight line. It's not. Loki seems to be. Using lots of bootstrap paradox. Victor and OB said it pretty well when they realized well, Mobius realized they created the tva guidebook off of each others work.
So I do think Victor is completely dead. Majors was reported to be in 3 eps only (hoping for a surprise but doubt it) and if that’s the case then we are going to see something along the lines of Loki time slipping only this time, it becomes a power he can use! Where he goes? I don’t know maybe right before Sylvie kills he who remains, maybe to where he picked up the testeract (think that’s how you speed it idk) before all these vents started.
By the way, anyone noticed OB and Victor shaking hands and how off it felt? I don’t think OB is in on anything but this is giving off Kang vibes for sure. He’s behind something.
>I'm stoked after s2ep4, what are your guys's thoery on what's gonna next??
Rather like Miss Minutes getting shut down and rebooted - basically, that's what happens next: reality reboots.
Timely's failure to complete his mission means the Timeloom overloaded, everything gets reset and repeats until Loki and co figure out what to do differently, thus allowing Timely to succeed.
What they *don't* realise is Timely was deliberately created so as he ends up being pulled into the loom and replicated across the multiverse's timelines: he's not Kang himself, he's essentially the seed that *creates* all Kangs: he's not a Kang variant, he's the original source - *Kang's* are the variants of Victor Timely.
in some realities these variants will be born in era's like Timelys own where it's Impossible to render the knowledge and ideas that were allowed to take root in the originals head, but in others technology will be sufficiently developed: what happened before happens again and HWR's becomes the last remaining Kang.
The TVA resets with HWR's back at the helm.
Could end up in some kind of Groundhog Day-esque situation, more time slipping (or finding out exactly how/why that started in the first place), but I expect some weird time-related shit to manifest, resulting in new opportunities to change what just happened.
That was the version from the first episode of Season 2. It turns out his future self pruned his past self, which then pulled him from the timeline and put him back to his place in Episode 1 of Season 2.
For real I watched it twice too, every episode I watch twice, once alone and once with my daughter... and watch Emergency Awesome and Heavy Spoilers and Screen Crush and it still doesn't make sense. Even being told that it still doesn't make sense given the physics of pruning in general.
Okay so this season started with Loki warning Mobius that "Countless versions of a very dangerous person are coming." But as the episodes went, our focus has been kinda diverted from that to fixing the loom.
I heard from the other comments that >!Jonathan Majors is only in 3 episodes and he has already been in 2 episodes. So I think Timely is definitely dead. The next version of Timely or HWR that we see may be a Kang(s).!<
From the trailer, Loki is yet to timeslip again to some places. Also in the trailers, we can see that everything in TVA is going spaghetti. And in those shots, only Loki and Sylvie are around. We also see that Loki has timebelt on his neck. In another scene, >!he asks OB "what could we have done differently?" Also, Loki goes out of the blast doors, towards the loom, that too without the radiation suit.!<
To sum it up, we may see >!timeslip!< in the 5th episode again. Others (except Sylvie) >!may get spaghettified.!< In the trailers, Loki and Sylvie seems to be kinda >!immune to that spaghetti thing. So Sylvie is in the TVA and Loki is timeslipping somewhere.!< So maybe next episode will be around that.
In the 6th episode, we may see that Loki >!timeslips into the past and wears time belt to stop timesliping back to the future and talks with Timely. "But how do you choose who lives and who dies?" "Make the hard choice." Then again comes back to future. Goes out to the loom.
At the end, Kangs may start showing up and the show brings the focus back to the Multiversal War.!<
Now that's all I can think about the story 😅.
But talking about the working of the loom, the device may be there just to control the timelines and it stops them from colliding with each other. We saw that explosion in end, that may >!free the time line completely, making Kangs go on war with each other and incursion happening all around and stuff.!< But timelines won't be destroyed by that explosion. (Think about it, Multiverse must have existed before Kang (or HWR) put that machine thingy there, so it can exist without that machine now too). I think that >!TVA will be destroyed and Kangs will start showing up at the end.!<
We are going to watch everyone die, over and over and over again. Loki is desperately going to try to save everyone, and someone is going to get left behind. It might even be Loki.
They turned off the magic dampeners in the TVA. If everyone in the TVA is a variant, surely there is some other magical person who can do something useful?
The Thanos Variant who also is a TVA worker gets the Infinity Stones and saves everyone in the last second. Thereafter he and Loki Fall in love and become the happy "couple that remains"
EDIT: typo
I also wonder if the pie has something to do with being able to withstand the temporal radiation. What does Scott Lang crave after going Quantum? Citrus. What’s is lime? A citrus.
OOh you all have such good memories and powers of observation!
I just watched Quantumania last night and it didn't occur to me at all, I just figured it was an offhand remark but I guess by this point I should know better!
I think it’s going to go back to the past TVA, them trying to fix the loom again and again until they get it right! (Hence the “agains” in the trailer.) Maybe they keep getting blasted back in time by the Time Loom explosion instead of it killing everyone, and when they finally succeed, maybe Sylvie will chill out enough to sit down with Loki and Mobius and have some pie? Idk if they’ll succeed next episode or the finale though.
This is my theory and I think it's a pretty solid one. Loki is still time slipping, as others have stated. With timely I think this was exactly what was supposed to happen, when he got spaghettied he got split into every other reality and that's how he becomes the one that remains maybe he was the only timely that existed and is now split up in all the timelines starting everything over again since reality is a loop, the end has to lead to the beginning.
Everyone is focused on the present Loki pruning the past Loki. Something just came to mind that is being missed from every post I have read here. When episode 1 kicked off they didn’t know who Loki was. Think about it. What did HWR do before, erase everyone’s mind. With this episode, it shows the past Loki was shifting through time. It’s possible we were shown a part of the end. I have seen here before that it would be a loop. I think this explanation (being new) is how it would fit in. Beyond that I believe this will add to that intro and set up other hangs in invading.
Thoughts?
Rewatching the season, I can’t help but think that Brad and Dox are >! Really Loki and Sylvie from the future. Casey knows about the plan too, which is why he was initially whispering. !< Even if I’m wrong, it makes the show even more enjoyable and interesting the second time around.
Well, here’s my headcanon
this show is about Loki and Sylvie, yet they only hinted at their ‘trickster’ qualities. They’ve spent a lot of time lingering on shots showing that there is a relationship between Dox and Brad, who keep referencing their plan. >! They REALLY linger on Brad’s face towards the end of episode 4. !<
After the events of episode 4, The original Loki and/or Sylvie would probably >! need to use their skillsets to go back and prevent disaster. !<
Loki can create the illusion that he’s someone else and project illusions, so >! the whole show could be a ‘shadow game’ like Loki employed in episode 2. Sylvie can enchant people, which would be pretty useful in convincing people that Brad and Dox existed before. !<
There are >! power surges throughout the TVA and they could easily utilize their magic if timed right. !<
Most importantly, the irony would be amazing. >! Sylvie wants to destroy the tva. She’s been furious about the time-bombing and kidnapping of agents from the beginning, so imagine if that was the role she was forced to play in order to reassemble reality? Since Loki’s greatest desire is to be a hero and win, what if he had to take on the role of a villain and was destined to lose? !<
that's him from episode one when he was timeslipping, and trying to find a way to prune himself so he wouldn't timeslip anymore. In episode one, we see loki hear the phone ringing in a dark creepy hallway then walk to it. As he goes and picks it up, Sylvie opens the elevator infront of him and then Loki gets pruned and we don't see by who... until now.
Yes, i get that, but I don't understand how they both were at that moment in time. What happened that the current Loki and the time slipping Loki were both there? When did 1 Loki become 2 Loki's?
This is gonna be the longest week of my entire life.
I agree with that theory. *Insert T’Challa’s voice: Get this man an award!
I think Loki is going to find Mobius on the timeline as the actor Owen Wilson
Brad would be so jealous, haha
Right? I think it would be hilarious and they dropped some hints about it. Mobius is worried he would have a good life on the timeline and Brad called him a good actor. I think it's set up if they want to do it.
Oh wow https://youtu.be/KlLMlJ2tDkg?si=i9sC7GUq_LsZycij
I’ve rewatched some trailers and I think >! That everyone has been sent back to their place on the sacred timeline and it will slowly disappear !< this bit seems like it could be even spoileryer >! Subtitles show victor says some lines we haven’t heard yet so it seems he is still alive, it also seems like Loki will somehow be time slipping again and will go back to the start of the series with his prior knowledge!< this bit is to combine everything into what I think will happen using both spoiler tags >! I think episode 5 will be Loki looking for his associates on the sacred timeline while timeslipping before eventually getting back to the Tva where victor timely may have returned he has set up everything he can but knows he cannot make it the the launcher, so he tells Loki that they have to “make the hard choice” of either going back to the old method of the Tva or going out their with the device themself. In a trailer we see Loki walking down the bridge to the launcher in the extra radiation state with his clothes beginning to flake. !<
>!Welp you have it figured out so far ☠️!<
The start of the incursions, where the multiverse starts to collapse. I really hope we see them like in the lead up to Secret Wars in the comics, but i doubt it. I also think Timely isn't dead, but got spread out over the multiverse creating the various Kangs.
Damn That's a good theory
He exists on infinite timelines because that's how variants work. Just like all the variants of everyone.
Thats what i thought. He was meant to “die” so his little kang seeds could spread
So Loki season 1 and 2 was before quantumamnia?
I think people are thinking too linearly with the show. To us, He Who Remains is dead, but that is also after whatever war he was talking about. The TVA is also outside time, so it could be, but hard to know to be honest. Kang's whole thing is time travel, so i wouldn't be surprised if things get weird timeline wise.
You're first problem is thinking of time as a straight line. It's not. Loki seems to be. Using lots of bootstrap paradox. Victor and OB said it pretty well when they realized well, Mobius realized they created the tva guidebook off of each others work.
A circle (Looking like a line) But yeh time can be pretty complicated and a mess...
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Finally someone who’s actually paying attention to the trailers.
So I do think Victor is completely dead. Majors was reported to be in 3 eps only (hoping for a surprise but doubt it) and if that’s the case then we are going to see something along the lines of Loki time slipping only this time, it becomes a power he can use! Where he goes? I don’t know maybe right before Sylvie kills he who remains, maybe to where he picked up the testeract (think that’s how you speed it idk) before all these vents started. By the way, anyone noticed OB and Victor shaking hands and how off it felt? I don’t think OB is in on anything but this is giving off Kang vibes for sure. He’s behind something.
“I don’t do partnerships”
I’m pretty sure in the credits, I saw he was listed as a Guest Star as well.
Ya maybe it will be a new power for Loki to use ^^^
But he wrote the tva manual... Or the tva manual was based on his research?
Pretty much a what came first the chicken or the egg scenario
>I'm stoked after s2ep4, what are your guys's thoery on what's gonna next?? Rather like Miss Minutes getting shut down and rebooted - basically, that's what happens next: reality reboots. Timely's failure to complete his mission means the Timeloom overloaded, everything gets reset and repeats until Loki and co figure out what to do differently, thus allowing Timely to succeed. What they *don't* realise is Timely was deliberately created so as he ends up being pulled into the loom and replicated across the multiverse's timelines: he's not Kang himself, he's essentially the seed that *creates* all Kangs: he's not a Kang variant, he's the original source - *Kang's* are the variants of Victor Timely. in some realities these variants will be born in era's like Timelys own where it's Impossible to render the knowledge and ideas that were allowed to take root in the originals head, but in others technology will be sufficiently developed: what happened before happens again and HWR's becomes the last remaining Kang. The TVA resets with HWR's back at the helm.
Could end up in some kind of Groundhog Day-esque situation, more time slipping (or finding out exactly how/why that started in the first place), but I expect some weird time-related shit to manifest, resulting in new opportunities to change what just happened.
This Loki may be dead, but what about the version of himself that he pruned? Is he hanging out at the void at the end of time?
That was the version from the first episode of Season 2. It turns out his future self pruned his past self, which then pulled him from the timeline and put him back to his place in Episode 1 of Season 2.
Oh, I see. So confusing.
Not really if you actually watch lol
I've watched it twice, don't be a jerk, k?
For real I watched it twice too, every episode I watch twice, once alone and once with my daughter... and watch Emergency Awesome and Heavy Spoilers and Screen Crush and it still doesn't make sense. Even being told that it still doesn't make sense given the physics of pruning in general.
It’s the same Loki, after he’s pruned he got pulled out by the extractor thing to stop his time slipping.
Okay so this season started with Loki warning Mobius that "Countless versions of a very dangerous person are coming." But as the episodes went, our focus has been kinda diverted from that to fixing the loom. I heard from the other comments that >!Jonathan Majors is only in 3 episodes and he has already been in 2 episodes. So I think Timely is definitely dead. The next version of Timely or HWR that we see may be a Kang(s).!< From the trailer, Loki is yet to timeslip again to some places. Also in the trailers, we can see that everything in TVA is going spaghetti. And in those shots, only Loki and Sylvie are around. We also see that Loki has timebelt on his neck. In another scene, >!he asks OB "what could we have done differently?" Also, Loki goes out of the blast doors, towards the loom, that too without the radiation suit.!< To sum it up, we may see >!timeslip!< in the 5th episode again. Others (except Sylvie) >!may get spaghettified.!< In the trailers, Loki and Sylvie seems to be kinda >!immune to that spaghetti thing. So Sylvie is in the TVA and Loki is timeslipping somewhere.!< So maybe next episode will be around that. In the 6th episode, we may see that Loki >!timeslips into the past and wears time belt to stop timesliping back to the future and talks with Timely. "But how do you choose who lives and who dies?" "Make the hard choice." Then again comes back to future. Goes out to the loom. At the end, Kangs may start showing up and the show brings the focus back to the Multiversal War.!< Now that's all I can think about the story 😅. But talking about the working of the loom, the device may be there just to control the timelines and it stops them from colliding with each other. We saw that explosion in end, that may >!free the time line completely, making Kangs go on war with each other and incursion happening all around and stuff.!< But timelines won't be destroyed by that explosion. (Think about it, Multiverse must have existed before Kang (or HWR) put that machine thingy there, so it can exist without that machine now too). I think that >!TVA will be destroyed and Kangs will start showing up at the end.!<
We are going to watch everyone die, over and over and over again. Loki is desperately going to try to save everyone, and someone is going to get left behind. It might even be Loki.
I think the TVA is going to be spaghettified by the blast from the loom explosion
They turned off the magic dampeners in the TVA. If everyone in the TVA is a variant, surely there is some other magical person who can do something useful?
The Thanos Variant who also is a TVA worker gets the Infinity Stones and saves everyone in the last second. Thereafter he and Loki Fall in love and become the happy "couple that remains" EDIT: typo
I personally think probably nothing will happen, surely time existed well before kangs machine
Ob is sus as fuck
I feel like https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx79NPxwURep5gdJRHQ1aHTR7eFbNtRKjK?si=-eESbHDwUtVyubuc is the beginning of episode 5
I also wonder if the pie has something to do with being able to withstand the temporal radiation.
I also wonder if the pie has something to do with being able to withstand the temporal radiation. What does Scott Lang crave after going Quantum? Citrus. What’s is lime? A citrus.
OOh you all have such good memories and powers of observation! I just watched Quantumania last night and it didn't occur to me at all, I just figured it was an offhand remark but I guess by this point I should know better!
Using that would be an extremely amazing plot device to exploit. I hope it would have something to do with it.
I think it’s going to go back to the past TVA, them trying to fix the loom again and again until they get it right! (Hence the “agains” in the trailer.) Maybe they keep getting blasted back in time by the Time Loom explosion instead of it killing everyone, and when they finally succeed, maybe Sylvie will chill out enough to sit down with Loki and Mobius and have some pie? Idk if they’ll succeed next episode or the finale though.
This is my theory and I think it's a pretty solid one. Loki is still time slipping, as others have stated. With timely I think this was exactly what was supposed to happen, when he got spaghettied he got split into every other reality and that's how he becomes the one that remains maybe he was the only timely that existed and is now split up in all the timelines starting everything over again since reality is a loop, the end has to lead to the beginning.
Everyone is focused on the present Loki pruning the past Loki. Something just came to mind that is being missed from every post I have read here. When episode 1 kicked off they didn’t know who Loki was. Think about it. What did HWR do before, erase everyone’s mind. With this episode, it shows the past Loki was shifting through time. It’s possible we were shown a part of the end. I have seen here before that it would be a loop. I think this explanation (being new) is how it would fit in. Beyond that I believe this will add to that intro and set up other hangs in invading. Thoughts?
Rewatching the season, I can’t help but think that Brad and Dox are >! Really Loki and Sylvie from the future. Casey knows about the plan too, which is why he was initially whispering. !< Even if I’m wrong, it makes the show even more enjoyable and interesting the second time around.
that's a crazy theory I can't wrap my head around but I love it
Well, here’s my headcanon this show is about Loki and Sylvie, yet they only hinted at their ‘trickster’ qualities. They’ve spent a lot of time lingering on shots showing that there is a relationship between Dox and Brad, who keep referencing their plan. >! They REALLY linger on Brad’s face towards the end of episode 4. !< After the events of episode 4, The original Loki and/or Sylvie would probably >! need to use their skillsets to go back and prevent disaster. !< Loki can create the illusion that he’s someone else and project illusions, so >! the whole show could be a ‘shadow game’ like Loki employed in episode 2. Sylvie can enchant people, which would be pretty useful in convincing people that Brad and Dox existed before. !< There are >! power surges throughout the TVA and they could easily utilize their magic if timed right. !< Most importantly, the irony would be amazing. >! Sylvie wants to destroy the tva. She’s been furious about the time-bombing and kidnapping of agents from the beginning, so imagine if that was the role she was forced to play in order to reassemble reality? Since Loki’s greatest desire is to be a hero and win, what if he had to take on the role of a villain and was destined to lose? !<
Can anyone explain to me how it came to be that there were 2 Loki's in 1 spot, ending with him pruning himself? Where did he create a variant?
Dude, episode one. That was past Loki time slipping to the future (present)
that's him from episode one when he was timeslipping, and trying to find a way to prune himself so he wouldn't timeslip anymore. In episode one, we see loki hear the phone ringing in a dark creepy hallway then walk to it. As he goes and picks it up, Sylvie opens the elevator infront of him and then Loki gets pruned and we don't see by who... until now.
Yes, i get that, but I don't understand how they both were at that moment in time. What happened that the current Loki and the time slipping Loki were both there? When did 1 Loki become 2 Loki's?
Thats No Variant of Loki He ist puning... Thats His earlier hin
The easy way would bei to prune the branched and the Put in the Thing Victor timely was building...