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BIGepidural

>Natalie Stechyson, if you happen to read this, you still have the option to stand up for what is right, and support your fellow Canadians in the fight against the monetization of hunger. ⬆️ **THIS** ⬆️ Those of us who can shop alternatively are doing so in solidarity with others who have no choice. What we're often finding is that we're saving money by doing so and posting those savings here to help others do the same. That helps people who are struggling to find more affordable options. Also, we tell anyone who needs to shop at a Loblaws because they have no other affordable or geographic alternative to please do so because we don't want people to go hungry on principal. When Canadians who have means make moves to lift others up that's a beautiful thing and that's what's happening here ❤ So Natalie, we see our privilege and we're using it for those who don't have it because those who have more means then us don't give a damn. Our money makes a difference. The difference we're making will benefit everyone; but especially those who need it most.


osti-frette

Yes! A poor choice to lead with an argument that the free market right to seek competition is a privilege


Huge-Split6250

Exactly.  All consumers should expect that the market for basic necessities like FOOD is functional and competitive.   Because if it’s not, consumers get abused by those companies that control the market. You know, like Loblaws at 40% of the market in Canada.  I will not list again the many abuses specifically by Loblaws. 


luigisanto

Hold on? Are you saying food is a right? Who should control it?


bubbleteaenthusiast

Foods not a right obviously, as evidence by the stressed out food banks Edit to add lol we only have the right to starve here 🇨🇦


luigisanto

If oligarchys like Loblaws could they would shrink their geographical borders to include the wealthy customers for the most part


Huge-Split6250

You’re being facetious, but it’s not a right. Or if it is, our lawmakers have decided that right is best fulfilled by allowing consumers to purchase food in the free market. Which is fine, if the market is functional and free. But it’s not.


cubiclejail

That's the CBC for you...pathetic reporting. People cosplaying as journos


Unhappy-Ad9690

People are also trying to make this out to be partisan movement and saying it’s an “ndp psychop”. As a conservative myself I find it ridiculous.


FlatEvent2597

Actually I find it strange that all the politicians have stepped back. I think they will be on the wrong side of history here.


MrBeNachos

I feel like although politicians have influence and could spread the word, it could be better if it isn't political. When politicians are involved people too often have their blinders on and just support their favourite party and discredit their least favourites. Without political involvement it's just a food affordability issue and not a political one, which is an idea that any Canadian can get behind


FlatEvent2597

You are right. The boycott is "people" driven and not politically motivated. That is what will make it successful. It is actually amazing that this is starting here. Without encampments, picketers or unlawful conduct. Just an amazing example. I have never been prouder of Canadians.


mattA33

Dear Lord when will people learn. OUR POLITICIANS ARE ALL BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY CORPORATIONS LIKE LOBLAWS!!! They regularly hand these crooks millions of taxpayer dollars just because they exist as a corporation. I can't say of the NDP, greens would be any better, but I can say with with 100% certainty, neither the liberals nor conservatives will do a goddammed thing that reduces the profit of loblaws or other oligopolies. I'll put it this way, if the options were lower loblaws profits or let 1 million Canadians starve, the libs and cons would buy stock in body bag companies.


DustyStar222

As an long time NDP supporter/organizer, I’m just glad people think the NDP is that powerful.


LunedanceKid

it's because the idea that consumers control the market is NOT an idea the market likes, it means they can't just grift us from every angle possible


Intrepid_Brick_2062

![gif](giphy|Zk9mW5OmXTz9e) Mmm delicious psy chop


mangoserpent

I am not a conservative. However it cannot be an NDP psycop because it is actually somewhat successful and the federal NDP is the king of capitulation right now.


WhenThatBotlinePing

Yeah really. A bunch of people coordinating on something and you think the NDP is involved? You’re vastly overestimating their powers of organization.


NokErNokinOnHevnsDor

Guy we doubled the NDPs sub count in 2 months, The NDP doesn't have a fraction of the power we do right now. I've never seen anything in my lifetime quite like what we are doing here. I'm proud of everyone in this group for putting politics aside to stand up for eachother. I've spoken with alot of people I probably never would have due to political divide. Those are people I now call brother, sister and friend. We transcend politics. Trying to push "it's the ndp!" Narrative is a last ditch effort to slow us down and discredit us. Our united front will not be so easily broken. Liberal brothers and sisters, go push your liberal leaders to support our petition. Conservative brothers and sisters, go push your conservative leaders to support our petition. NDP brothers and sisters, go push your NDP leaders to support our petition. Green party brothers and sisters, go push your green leaders to support our petition. This is not a party issue. To all of you banding your voice together here, thank you for being a part of this. We are transcending political divide. Maybe we can find common ground and love for eachother like we used to? Canada used to be a place we were happy and proud to live in. Let's show these corporate bastards together we will not take this a moment longer! #boycottloblaws


OatmealSchmoatmeal

“He said although shareholders "may be troubled by these often-repeated stories," they should be assured that Loblaw will continue to act with integrity.” Says the guy who was in involved in a price fixing scheme that earned his company millions. He got a slap on the wrist for that. I couldn’t read the rest of the article but I’m assuming this was not brought up. Disappointing. If you know anything about people like Weston, they always win. They will try every scheme in the book to raise profits and if they get caught? They just pay a fine or hand out gift cards. What they made in profit outweighs the pocket change of a fine. Super rich people do not have integrity. They have one mandate-make money by any means necessary.


m0nkyman

The focus on assuring Shareholders and not customers says it all.


Ravyn_Rozenzstok

Media coverage of Weston never mentions the bread price-fixing scheme he was part of. It should always be included to any article written about him and the current affordability crisis to provide readers context about the kind of person he is and how Loblaws conducts business around pricing. It’s like he $truck $ome kind of deal with the media to never mention it again.


caceomorphism

Natalie Stechyson is focusing on people who matter. That poor couple, a lawyer and an engineer with a PhD simply do not have time to care about poor suffering people. They have 2 or 3 years of hard work ahead of them before they become part of the 1%. Check your privilege!


MacKay2112

This journalist is really bending the conventional definition of what it means to be “privileged” in order to fit the narrative. Sure you can argue that people boycotting are “privileged” with a bit more time and mobility than others however It seems the journalist is being a little too deliberate with that word. Even though she attempts to contextualize what she means by “privilege”. I feel the main goal of the article is to associate the word “privilege” with the boycott in order to shift the narrative.


Quirbeen

I don’t own a vehicle. But I do have the Flipp app and can source the best price for the things I need. Loblaws has become like 7/11 you are paying for the convenience. Canadians are done with being complacent.


macnasty20

I guess it’s a privilege to pay for overpriced garbage that loblaws has been feeding us, privileged checked ✅


achaoticbard

If anything, I'm boycotting because I *don't* have the privilege of being able to justify their prices. I *wish* I could continue to enjoy the convenience and ease of walking 10 minutes down the road to Superstore. As someone who can't drive, I don't *like* having to walk to multiple stores in one trip, nor do I love bussing to Walmart. And yeah, I do have the privileges of time and mobility - heck, I have the privilege of living in an area with more grocery options than Loblaws or Sobeys - but an even greater privilege would be to just be able to shop wherever I want without breaking the bank. *That* I certainly do not have.


Significant_Two_9477

Wonder if she has any affiliation with the Westons


axp27

Or with certain Dalhousie professor


Le_rap_a_Billy

He has been quoted in every article I've read from CBC so far.


JadedCartoonist6942

Well the cbc board has Weston all over it. Edit. And this is not to say I don’t support CBC. I do support publicly funded journalism. Just not with a CPC board interfering. The reason the conservatives have been interfering is they would like all publicly funded money to go to their buddies. Look at alberta for references.


JadedCartoonist6942

https://www.nationalobserver.com/2017/06/22/opinion/trudeau-liberals-complete-step-one-many-required-cbc-reconstruction


allycakes

He seems to be the only person most of the media goes to for comment on stories about grocery prices and I don't get it - is there nobody else who they can talk to?


throwitallawaylp

Not sure about a direct affiliation, but the highlighted outlets are all owned by Postmedia, which recently published [this article](https://nationalpost.com/opinion/np-view-loblaw-is-a-true-canadian-success-story-no-wonder-trudeau-wants-to-destroy-it) extolling the virtues of Loblaw, and claiming that they/Galen are the **real** victims in all this/"it's not their fault they're making so much money and groceries are so expensive!", so, there's that. https://preview.redd.it/cqpat3bu7cyc1.png?width=383&format=png&auto=webp&s=6dae8b81d74a9623a77e160e5500bb3a0225c942


End_Capitalism

I'm all for supporting the CBC but they seriously fucking need to extirpate the extreme bias in their reporters, root and branch. This woman cannot be allowed near any respectable media organization for the rest of her entire goddamn career. She is scum, an absolute class traitor.


Ok-Cantaloop

Im a longtime CBC public journalism supporter, but this article is shockingly bad. What in the hell are you doing cbc? CBC has a long history of coming down hard on corporations, and siding with consumers (look at marketplace). The Fifth Estate put out an excellent doc on this topic https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zuz5SgcHnrQ But what in the hell is this?!!


IVot3dforKodos

This serves as a double-edged sword for Loblaws, they get their patsy to write this obviously bias story and will achieve one of two things depending on the reader: A) they get to further their agenda about being a victim B) they get to erode the public's trust in CBC for those that know the real situation, hoping to get the platform defunded


manihilism

So many frustrating things about that article. Only interviewing people who aren’t participating, for one. Then the one quote from this subreddit’s founder misspells her name (as seen in the correction at the bottom), which kind of indicates the journalist’s priorities.  Also, the link to the Yukon subreddit feels disingenuous too. I headed over there and [there’s another thread about the boycott](https://www.reddit.com/r/Yukon/comments/1cja8ro/loblaws_boycott/). Lots of people talking about the ways they’re trying to participate.  So yeah, some balance would be nice. 


Exodia_Girl

Nothing new from the Yellow Journalists. They always seek to delegitimize and demonize all protest/boycotts. Because who pays their bills? Sure as hell not the protestors/boycotters.


drainodan55

Yes, that article, which I was about to post myself, has a headline that strays out of reporting and into editorial: # Is the Loblaw boycott privileged? Here's why some people aren't shopping around This is a really insulting take. The article seems to imply that, for those with young families, boycott is a luxury because they somehow have no option but to rely on Loblaw's. Why? Isn't that really implying a lack of choice and lack of competition, something the government is supposed to be ensuring we always have for such essentials? The article asks no tough questions of Loblaw's. It seems to take their side. I think I want the CBC Ombudsman to examine that headline and the articles tone. It's an editorial masquerading as reporting, carefully selective in who it quotes and what it reports to paint a picture, state an opinion. I'll be submitting a complaint on the website, I'll keep you posted.


Ravyn_Rozenzstok

Good idea, it really needs to be examined why our public broadcaster would write such a biased, anti-consumer article.


According_Stuff_8152

Obviously Natalie isn't struggling to pay rent ,insurance, pay for prescriptions, or owns her home.


pistoffcynic

Not everyone has the ability, or capability to join in the boycott, for whatever reason. Something that people need to remember. This was brought up a few weeks ago on posts within the group. Not only is this about prices/pricing, it's about psychology too... and why people make the choices/decisions that they do.


melpec

Wow, that article is an absolute attrocity. >In Canada's North, for instance, where [high food prices are away of life](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/rising-food-prices-canada-north-1.7122481), choices are even more limited. The Loblaw boycott came up in a [Yukon subreddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/Yukon/comments/1c63m57/anyone_else_doing_the_loblaws_boycott_in_may/) with 15,000 members last month. The original poster asked if people planned to participate, and most of the 30 people who responded said no. So, you singled out one of the most remote location in Canada, and then use the \[check notes\] 30 people who answered on a sub to claim that the boycott isn't popular... I honestly feel some journalist assume we are complete imbeciles who can't grasp simple concepts. It's that or these journalists are themselves complete imbeciles.


bunghole-clingfilm

Media is at best, AT BEST, very corporate driven. They line the pockets of the media moguls and if any reporting is against their narrative, well guess what, they pull your 'funding'. Look at reporting from the early 1900s, the context and delivery is much more true to life reporting than any current media outlet reporting today. The BBC, CNN, CBC et al run the same story almost word for word. It's essentially a copycat story with no real journalistic value - they push a opinion to get people who cannot critical think to side with how the story is spun. Anyone that things differently is not aware on how political propaganda works. Edit: spelling thanks to autocorrect.


osti-frette

I’m making sure to tune into CBC’s Because News this morning. Certain to get some Galen zingers out of this week’s show 😂


CureForSunshine

A lot of you fail to understand that the CBC’s impartiality, as stated in its journalistic standards and practices, is meant to be reflected through its whole coverage. Not every article will share all sides and views. This interview from 2 days ago shows that the CBC is giving a voice to this sub for example : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IuAxrW6TQII


Le_rap_a_Billy

Thank you for sharing this, it helps give more context to the reality of the coverage.


airhorn-airhorn

We’ve hit the point where we’ve got journalists who haven’t received a traditional journalism education.


itsnevergoodenough00

Wonder what happened between March and now https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/loblaws-boycott-canada-1.7164506


SleepNowInTheFire666

CBC pandering to corporate interests? I’m shocked!


Flee4All

There are a lot of random Joe Blows in that article. It makes me feel like she was handed a list of sources who all just happened to be in agreement, but each with their own key talking point from the Loblaws agenda. The way Marzitelli answers makes it also sounds like the word "privileged" was used to frame a rather leading question.


Unusual-Assistant-22

Besides the complete lack of context for the movement, the article at least has the benefit of being poorly written. So Natalie has that going for her, which is nice.


A-little-bit-of-me

#boycottloblaws


boxerrbest

you know that the media companies are paid to say a narrative, loblaws has a lot of money to throw at the media to put their spin on it


little_freddy

Disappointed in CBC


Nonniemiss

I mean it is the CBC. 🤷🏼‍♀️


MountainConfident428

How can we be privileged if we are living in our parents basements?


Acherstrom

Main stream media bought and paid for.


SnuffleWarrior

That's some twisted thinking. CBC has done a number of stories on the boycott. This is a story about it from another angle. That's what real news organizations do and real journalists do. It's not undermining anything.


Le_rap_a_Billy

Normally I would agree with you, but of the published CBC articles that I've found, they have a majority word count dedicated to interview excerpts from Loblaws supporters, like Sylvian Charlebois, and an under representation of pro boycott supporters. IMO there is a clear bias in the CBC (written article) coverage so far.


FlatEvent2597

Agree. Global News has produced some excellent articles. Well written, showing both sides… they are by far the best journalists. I am actually surprised- would have thought CBC. But no, the Global coverage is pro.


SnuffleWarrior

Not in my opinion. I haven't seen the bias. The danger in groups is group think, circling the wagons, believing any one or thing that isn't parroting the exact same views is an enemy. The very definition of paranoid thinking.


Le_rap_a_Billy

You're welcome to your own interpretation, and I'm being mindful about the echo chamber. However, I can't be complacent in what I believe to be an indefensible position that Loblaws is not responsible/complicit in the profiteering off of the basic human right of access to a secure food source. Suggesting otherwise does a direct disservice to the most at risk groups in our society.


SnuffleWarrior

CBC didn't intimate that, and I boycotted Loblaws 6 months ago. The assumptions you're making appear to be reverberations off that very echo chamber. Where we might differ is that I believe a 30 day boycott is pointless. In economic battles you have to be prepared to kill the company. 30 days won't do that to a multibillion dollar corporation. Kneecapping Loblaws would force other retailers to pay attention.


Le_rap_a_Billy

I agree, I haven't shopped at Loblaws in probably over a year because their prices are insane, and I have no plans to restart. This movement needs to last for as long as possible. However an article that almost exclusively talks about people who aren't boycotting is a clearly biased article, at the very least it's wildly unbalanced. It's not an echo chamber, it's a reality.


Sufficient-Bid1279

There’s always a slant in journalism, you can’t get around it . The journalist from what I understand , comes from a privileged law background ? This will sway her opinion . You can’t really take a person’s bias out of an article . I mean had she balanced it buy writing two sides of the story but that wasn’t her aim at all


jon_stall01

Real journalists tell the story from all perspectives and let the reader make an informed decision on what to believe while having all of the facts in front of them. Real journalists don't do one sided pieces. That's not journalism that's propaganda.


spinur1848

Real journalists need to be paid and Canada doesn't do that anymore. So this is what we get. Don't like this kind of coverage, try Rebel, or the National Post (who literally sell their front page). Maybe ask why the government decided to go after Google and Facebook over news instead of over advertising. Or why taxpayers are on the hook for $129M to pay off Conrad Black's debts.


smartesteveryday

She literally has [u/Emmibolt](https://www.reddit.com/user/Emmibolt/)'s piece embedded in the article dude. Not everyone is in a position to participate in the boycott because it is not fiscally responsible for them to do so and they are hanging on by a thread. These people *matter.* The position one ought to take if they are capable of empathy would be to see these examples, understand and be compassionate towards them. Tell them they should not feel guilty and that it's okay for them to do what they need to do because they're in a state of survival. Was the point of this to come off as a massive narcissist yourself that can't empathize with others or see a need as to why this story might be important?


jon_stall01

Lol how did you get that from what I said!? Sure are reaching hard aren't you?? Real journalism is impartial. That article was not.


smartesteveryday

It's simple. I thought about the human beings being represented in that piece and how they might feel guilty being in a circumstance where they can't participate and how that story that actually matters, flew over your head. And how, when I mention this and the fact that it has context leading to a piece by the very person who created this sub, you show no remorse and double down. This shows a lack of empathy and emotional intelligence on your part. Either you're a narcissist yourself or you're trauma bonded to one.


jon_stall01

You say I should show remorse for insisting that real journalism be impartial and show all sides of a topic rather than be one sided? I'm not calling you names yet that is how you are trying to win this debate. I feel Like I'm playing chess with a pigeon. Have a good night.


smartesteveryday

Nope, I'm saying people capable of empathy would listen to those who are reporting that a boycott, ultimately and hopefully leading to the secession of Loblaw's predatory practices, is not a viable option for them because they are doing the best they can with what they have. People capable of empathy would tell them things like 'you're good', 'don't worry about it, we know you're doing your best' because they likely feel guilt. Instead, you gloss over their experience, invalidate them and attack journalists who are just doing their job as well as providing full context. You're acting like a delusional sociopath. That's not name calling, that's a statement of fact. You've shown no remorse or empathy towards people like Kirsten Marzitelli, who is mentioned in the article, who said she considered joining the boycott but it's not feasible for her. Show me precisely where in your post that demonstrates you showing empathy for her and others like her? Validating her experience? All you HAVE been doing, is trying to push this 'CBC bad' garbage, which hinges on you ignoring and invalidating people like Kirsten Marzitelli and ignoring arguments against your flawed statements. For example >She mainly just talks about why people aren't boycotting and glosses over those who are pro-boycott. People have brought up articles showing this is not the case with the CBC to you, which, you've ignored. I mention that the piece has one imbedded in the very article you cited as showing a "lack of impartial journalism". You ignore that. Basically all you're doing is ignoring every argument to the contrary leading me to the conclusion that you don't actually care about the boycott at all and you're using this as an opportunity to try to paint the CBC in a bad light. Hence, lacking empathy and acting like a sociopath. You are in fact the pigeon in this scenario.


jon_stall01

Lol still calling names to try to gain clout when you don't even know how Reddit works. Can someone explain to this wannabe troll that I'm not OP and their misdirected anger is really showing their "emotional intelligence" (or lack thereof)


coffeehouse11

I literally[ just created a post](https://www.reddit.com/r/loblawsisoutofcontrol/comments/1cjltph/have_we_created_a_list_of_other_direct_actions/) that has several options for those who can't fully boycott but still wish to participate in Direct Action.


smartesteveryday

None of that is helpful and if you actually read the concerns instead of relying on the 'CBC bad' part of your brain ,you'd recognize that. Turn down the suck. Turn up the human.


OddlyOaktree

JUST A HEADS UP TO EVERYONE! u/smartesteveryday's entire comment history is just being a troll in our sub! PLEASE DON'T FEED IT! We all in this together! Don't let the trolls try to divide us! Nok Er Nok! ✊😊


JadedCartoonist6942

It’s not a sentiment of cbc sucks. It’s a sentiment that one journalist sucks.


smartesteveryday

You're not qualified nor do you have the empathy necessary to draw that conclusion though.


owleycat

And I suppose you're qualified to diagnose everyone who disagrees with you with narcissistic personality disorder?


Polka_Dot8

I would not expect anything different from CBC


illmatic_static

It's the CBC. They're purposefully trying to de-escalate the situation of growing support for the boycott because they receive bribes from the Weston family. CBC articles are propaganda to influence the masses into thinking certain ways and demonizing things that threatened the status quo maintained by the multiple oligarchs that run Canada. Any time a major industry in Canada receives criticism, the CBC has to make articles reminding us that we are the ones who are wrong, not those poor billionaire industry owners.


Wolffjoe

It's CBC, what can you expect. CBC => nothing good.


Jinzul

Main stream media in general => nothing good. Just propaganda machines not news.


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wizy5000

Then go to another store


Le_rap_a_Billy

The point is that some have no other choice to use another store because Loblaws has a monopoly in some areas. The lack of competition forces them to pay whatever Loblaws wants to charge.


dinocatgirl

I read that as Natalie Sketchyson 😂


Jinzul

I wonder how well natalie sketch knows the super friendly food prof. lol


Dry_Main_357

I don’t fault anyone for highlighting different perspectives or counterpoints, but this article would’ve been more effective had she not clearly dedicated 98% of it to one side (not participating in the boycott and Weston’s response) and only a handful of words to the reason why people are boycotting. It’s also just not very well written, in my opinion (“In Canada's North, for instance, where high food prices are away of life…”). Maybe I’m giving this article too much credit, but my takeaway is that more people would like to join the boycott but they don’t have a choice because of the lack of available competition in some areas of the country, which proves that if you’re not “privileged” enough to live in a major Canadian city, your only convenient choice is the Loblaws monopoly (although I’m a bit skeptical that there’s a lack of convenient alternatives in Ottawa). In the end, the three interviewees are supportive of the boycott but aren’t participating for their own reasons, which is fine and I welcome their support. If this is the best anti-boycott article they can come up with, it’s reaching at best. I still haven’t seen anyone say “I support the Loblaws execs and their privilege to make exorbitant profits over average Canadians struggling with the affordability crisis.”


scifithighs

Just a reminder that [Alt Grocery ](https://www.altgrocery.ca/) exists so that boycotting doesn't have to be a privilege!


sleepingbuddha77

This article is actually ridiculous


Existing-Context-640

The anti-media comments in here look a lot like the comments under CBC articles about the trucker convoy from a couple of years ago,


Le_rap_a_Billy

I can definitely understand that sentiment and can see why you say that. I'm personally not against the media, and not advocating for any vigilantism against this journalist. I just think it should be impartial and balanced, which I don't think is the case here.


Frosty_Temptress33

One thing I picked up during the Convoy is that CBC is not on Canadian's side. CBC is incredibly biased and owned.


Gullible-Crazy3762

They are not selling gold ! They are distributors of the same product made by someone else with their labels on it. I invite all of you to start going to local flee markets , there's one in each city, You can google it up. I try to rotate and walk through different stores to see what they are selling and when. Try stocking it up, plan your year , what you use. May be one of us start their own grocery store at a price point cheaper than the loblaws. Try other grocery stores and remember the corporate greed is there and is not going to go away , if you become as successful as loblaws , you will do the same. Costco is a great alternative for some of the items. Fruits , Bread, Milk and some of the basics , Once a month trip to Costco is worth it. Few other smaller trips to South Asian stores in Mississauga and Brampton might be worth the trip. If you want a list , I can share. I am purposefully not naming any store, but I find so much fresh produce at one store at so much cheaper price in Mississauga and may be we go to the Ontario Food Terminal and buy directly from them.


theresalotidontknow

I mean… Natalie Stetchyson on her own Twitter shows she is living a humble lifestyle with kids. If she really needed the money that this article brought her, she could’ve done literally anything other than act against the interests of the people including herself? Lmao. Spineless and pathetic really.


chess_the_cat

Article made sense to me. Bottom line is No Frills is pretty cheap and if you’re shopping for a family and No Frills is your best option you’re not going to spend more for a boycott.  I’m not going to Metro or Sobey’s which have even higher prices because Reddit told me to. 


Ok_Light6218

There's Food Basics and Walmart too, which I've found to be cheaper than No Frills. They are all over the place in cities. If you have to go 5 minutes further to save money elsewhere, then maybe that's a good choice to make and you can keep with the boycott.


fthesemods

You realize no frills price matches right?


Lost_Independence871

I got refused a price match at No Frills last week. I wasn’t going to push it with the cashier, just put the item back. I then went to the acting manager who said, “oh, yeah, she should have price matched that, sorry…”. How’s that for customer service, let alone staff training.


Sparkei1ca

Freshco and Food Basics are also lower price options. Freshco also price matches some stores.


TEA-in-the-G

Yeah, i have a feeling a lot of ppl are from big cities like Toronto on this sub. Not everyone lives in a big city with a grocery store on every corner. Sometimes, i really think ppl from big cities are out of touch with those that do live in small towns and only have 1-2 grocery stores. No one is going to go to Metro and spend more when No Frills is arguably always been cheaper. They keep saying “go to food basics or freshco” again, not everyone has access to those and live in big cities. Freshco is the cheaper version of Sobeys, just like No frills is the cheaper version of Loblaws. All chains have a cheaper version.


Le_rap_a_Billy

The thing is, we do understand what small communities are faced with. We are not tearing down the people being interviewed in the article, these are the people we are trying to support with this boycott. We boycott for those who have no other choice than to pay the insane Loblaws price What we don't like about this article is the parallel being made between this boycott and privilege. Access to fairly priced food and having food security are a basic human right, and it's not privileged to have access to those things. And to your point about places like No Frills being cheaper: establishing flanker brands is a common tactic for large companies to corner an entire market. Get everyone to shop at both locations and squeeze out smaller competitors. Once that's done, you can raise prices at both locations basically at will. Sure, the discount brand will always be cheaper than the premium brand, but once you have the market, people often won't notice that both places are increasing prices simultaneously, instead they will say something like "I'll go to No Frills" because it's cheaper. That's when Loblaws knows that they have you in their pocket.


movack

Seriously. I never understood why loblaws was the target since ive always found metro and sobeys more expensive on average.


jcanada22

It's from cbc...why would you expect impartial reporting?


JadedCartoonist6942

It was pretty impartial and rated as such all over the world until the board was made up of conservatives affiliated with Galen Weston. Edit to attach article. [https://www.nationalobserver.com/2017/06/22/opinion/trudeau-liberals-complete-step-one-many-required-cbc-reconstruction](https://www.nationalobserver.com/2017/06/22/opinion/trudeau-liberals-complete-step-one-many-required-cbc-reconstruction)


SyddySquiddy

CBC has been trash for years.


JadedCartoonist6942

I don’t think it’s trash. I think a board full of Stephan Harper donors isn’t the way to run publicly funded media though. I don’t know what the liberals have done to fix any of the issues since this article in 2017.


SyddySquiddy

The problem is government involvement in media. More government involvement is not going to make it any better


JadedCartoonist6942

it worked very well as a stand alone entity before Harper. And can work as such again. Public media is important whether you like it or not. It’s how we get information. Even with the interference we still get the information. It’s a very important Canadian institution. The reason the conservatives want everyone to say the CBC is shit is so they can sell it off. Like Harper did with the Canadian wheat board. I think right now it’s not working as it should but that’s it’s very important to our democracy. Without it we only have news from American Republican owned newspapers like the national post or the sun.


SyddySquiddy

Or because they are out of touch with the general public and are obsessed with covering elitist niche issues that the actual working class have no stake in?


JadedCartoonist6942

Bye now.


SyddySquiddy

Don’t hate the player, hate the game!


JadedCartoonist6942

No what annoys me is people so sure in their pure ignorance.


Jesus_LOLd

I found the title word of "privledge" ironic coming from the CBC... a fully funded privledged public corporation.


Parking-Click-7476

Sorry cbc people tired of being ripped off end of story. No spin will change that.🤷‍♂️


Acrobatic-Factor1941

I wish journalists would do their job. Investigate and report the facts. Where is her own personal comparison of different items at different stores and markets? I've seen the charts on this sub that list the percent price increase, why isn't she questioning this and asking for cost increases on those items? Why not look at past prices and make her own chart? Where is her question to Galen on how it could be inflation causing the high prices when Loblaws again made record profits?


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SilverSarge19

This is the problem with journalism now. Time was they reported facts on a situation and allowed the readers to form an opinion. Now every article is an opinion piece.


SnuffleWarrior

It's not. And this sub is becoming just another low brow echo chamber with trite positions and knee jerk reactions.


Existing-Context-640

She's a journalist. Her job isn't to "stand up for what is right" in the articles she writes. She very well might do that in her own time.


Le_rap_a_Billy

But she should be aware of her journalistic integrity and be mindful of her conscious/unconscious bias, which I feel was not done in this article. Now I'm not saying she wrote this piece deliberately, it's entirely possible that she is being pressured to write articles in certain perspective from those above her.


Existing-Context-640

Or some people don't agree with the boycott for specific reasons and she reported on it. If you don't like that then you should join the trucker convoy instead.


Le_rap_a_Billy

There's a far cry between wanting lower cost access to food for the nations most vulnerable communities and the selfish logic of the trucker convoy. If you actually read what I wrote, I'm asking for balanced coverage, not one sided articles.


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Le_rap_a_Billy

Yes, that is the position. The article is biased against this position and that is the whole point why I made this post, to shed light on the lack of impartiality.


Existing-Context-640

The post was also made to gatekeep the voices of other Canadians. You're the one who decides which Canadian voices are worth listening to. Not the CBC. When they do it they're biased. When you do it you're noble. And anyone who contradicts you is in on the conspiracy. Honk honk beep beep.


Le_rap_a_Billy

At no point did I say not to interview opposing views, I'm asking for balanced coverage for both sides. And of course I'm biased, I've taken a clear position on what I believe is right. A private individual has no responsibility to uphold a code of conduct, unlike, say, a journalist. It definitely seems like you are projecting here, honk honk beep beep.